SPEEDRUN Hidden 'Roman Papal States' + HIDDEN ACHIEVEMENT

[@FeedbackGaming]

HRE v2

[@The_platform763]

... ELECTRIC BOOGALO

[@PapaOscarNovember]

So HOI4 has been a closet EU4 all along, and it is coming out.

[@wolf2403]

Now to control all of Europe

[@johnuthus]

Buts it’s holy, Roman and an empire

[@regiliok]

i would love to see you do a playthrough of this

[@noelhermans9291]

I love how the pope just gets 15 free war goals for no good reason

[@NoymoHD]

Is the pope, what did you expect?

[@yaldabaoth2]

They must have found some documents in the Vatican archives that gives the pope claims on everything.

[@FeedbackGaming]

WAR POPE

[@kaiserkatsh4312]

What do you mean war goals, he is obviously just protecting his faithful flock

[@bloodwolfy1193]

Crusader kings 3 confusing screaming?

[@diegogonzalez5273]

"Who needs consumer goods when you've got God, right?" That actually makes a lot of sense.

[@Not_Evil_]

I wish there was an achievement to beat Soviet Union as the pope hence quote “Stalin: pope? how many divisions does he have”

[@tonyravioli1982]

Unless you are being sarcastic. Pretty sure there is.

[@Lady_Amelia-Eloise]

There is

[@tonyravioli1982]

"Stalin, How many guns does he have?" is the achievement

[@aahilmemon]

Copied

[@alexkhaid]

There is...

[@emib6599]

About the famous myth that in fascist italy trains were never late, that is basically a meme now. In a book written by one that study that period, he said that was forbidden 🚫 by law for a train 🚆 to be late, so every time there was a delay the italian railways administration constantly retroactively changed all the trains schedules, so not a single delay was going to get registered.

[@isengrom6883]

ah yes, we scheduled this train to be 2 hours la- I mean on time so that the mid day train could also pick up 1 and 2 o-clock passengers

[@josue3687]

@@isengrom6883 that’s so warm 🥰 and heart-touching. A train would be late for picking passengers that missed the original schedule 🥰

[@SamuelMaluco379]

An HRE that is actually holy, Roman and an empire

[@Gamago]

Who else thinks that Dave should become the pope in real life and do this?

[@metealtnkaya475]

as a turk i'm ready to get istanbul pocket

[@Papzt89]

@@metealtnkaya475 you mean Constantinople

[@ver939]

@@metealtnkaya475 you mean Constantinople

[@grugamersriseup7299]

@@metealtnkaya475 you mean Russian port city

[@math3000]

He just needs to be a Catholic and be elected by the College of Cardinals

[@Quatschkopflolxd]

For everybody who tries this in 4/2024! if you have problems to reach over the needed 60% for "His holiness" you can skip the focus "Conspiarcy of the Shadows" right after "Undermine the douche" just dont do it and move on to Monarchy and then if you finished "Seek papal support" + "Agents of the church" + "Strengthen the papacy" + "Disband the blackshirts" (including doing the decions that comes with the focususes) then you can do "Conspiarcy of the Shadows" as last focus to push over the 60% Threshold. Might be sketchy and not intended :D but its better than waiting a Year.

[@Oliver-ld3ei]

At 14:08 you can see Ethiopia offering to send volunteers which I think is pretty funny.

[@damilercf]

I also noticed and I was in stitches lmao, the irony.

[@HannotheDude]

"How do planes got longer range from just beliving?" surprised Warhammer 40k Ork face

[@ViktorEnns]

"Blasted Hoomies!"

[@gabrielatheactiveantifa]

I love how this man went from "Wow this DLC has so much stuff, I'm flabbergasted, let's test it" to the normal exploiter madman that he is

[@sizzis2045]

Actually Paradox trying to portray Pius XII as a warlike pope is, crazy as it is, even more insanely ahistorical than the Adam Hilt/Señor Hilter event. Wish they'd have put some random fictional pope instead, considering also that Pius XII's election happened a little after the starting date of the game anyway.

[@ettibbet5493]

The Adam hilt/senor hilter event?

[@rickfitzgerald7294]

I think they've patched it. The focus ''seek papal support'' now sets the balance of power to 0, instead of leaving it at like 50. Because of that, I can't get the pope in charge anymore. Help?!

[@Sirlion35]

you have to save the 2 focuses at the beginning that takes power from mussolini they change when you get the pope in the powerbalance

[@ethanwright160]

another way to do this is to complete the focus "Utilize the Blackshirts" as well as "Foreign Affairs" and then hire the advisor named "Gian Galeazzo Ciano"

[@eggesu]

@@Sirlion35 thnk u so much

[@ViktorEnns]

@@ethanwright160 oh that is very helpful. I am stuck there too

[@ViktorEnns]

@@Sirlion35 I see. I will try that for my next run

[@emiloster2454]

One of your best videos yet, keep up the good work Dave! I love you! ❤

[@Editnewer]

Looks like the latest patch broke the Papalstates, after reaching 60 towards the pope, it still doesnt trigger the pope taking control. Used all of the tools to gain support for him.

[@papapog69]

just had that problem in two games played till feb 11 1939 and pope pius xi dies and popepius xii is the new pope allowing a new descison to go over 60

[@ViktorEnns]

The two focuses with the shadows of Mussolini, do them after you've unlocked the papacy. That will give you enough Powerbalance to get the Pope.

[@dsfsdggfggdfd3791]

I legit saw the achievements and went down this path last night instantly

[@silverfishofdoom1312]

I love how easy it is to puppet Portugal by 1938 with just a focus

[@jenswildner4299]

In my game they said no, so did Spain ^^

[@aquakroot]

Dave, I'm drinking my coffee and studying my Roman Catholic Catechism (Second Edition) just for this video

[@ViktorEnns]

Dedication +100

[@LordOfLove69]

I like that one of the Pope's Focuses is "The Golden Wind"

[@mr.paperbag771]

"This is Requiem"

[@math3000]

And it has arrows on it

[@seashellguy9416]

IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE?!?!??!?!?? ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAMYDAMUDAMYDAMUDAHYRVHTDDD YO Angelo! YO ANGELO! YO ANGELO? You thought it was jojo but it was me dio!

[@mountaingeneral]

Im gonna watch this at church, full audio

[@jasonellis4916]

Been waiting for this new expantion to see some Dav exploit and cheese it! Totally epic watching you gobble up half of Europe before being at war with the UK

[@glennmiller1290]

this has been nurfed the focus seek papal state now set balance of power to 0 and you have to wait a full year to get over 60%

[@512TheWolf512]

i like this dlc. you can larp if you want, but you can also be the biggest meme ever, all without mods

[@Sevastous]

4:55 seriously Colors matching from eu4 really is orgasmic

[@ayuvir]

This is exactly the sort of memery I'd expect from my focus trees. Really hope they go back and make a pass on older focus trees so they can spin out of control like this one.

[@deepblume6611]

We always need one wacky Focus on every major country, i also like the russian version of this Pope Mode

[@ayuvir]

@@deepblume6611 I always go back to Monarchist Portugal as I believe it is one of the first op "meme" paths that they made. It's fairly solid if not a bit slow compared to other, newer paths that annex large amounts of land. You then get war goals on south America but sadly can't do much with it without the USA intervening. And after a few leader buffs it just stops. They should've made it so that you'd also get some goals in Africa and in Asia, try to rebuild the Empire and whatnot.

[@azizim99]

great content as always, love your vids, keep up the good work. I tried this run and there might be an even faster run. Keeping most of the strategy same, doing Balkan Ambitions unlocks a decision to give Yugo an ultimatum and they usually accept to be our puppet (If not instant war goal) (As a bonus you can also do the Albanian focus to get them early as well) So i just wait for the French and Czech guarantees to go away and send the ultimatum. If they refuse you enter the Yugo/Romanian war much earlier, if they accept they become your puppet and now you wait for the justification to finish up on Turkey and declare to get Romania involved. The Time For War focus will finish up around Turkish Justification so Bulgaria and Greece can be dealt with same as your strategy by declaring instantly after Romania finishes. A tip for players struggling to break Romania, You can declare on Bulgaria after Time for War focus finishes and take them before declaring on Turkey. Bulgarian border will be much easier to break than the Yugo border for Romania and will be a much longer frontline to manage. (You only need to call Yugo to take Bulgaria, Romania will still man the borders at Yugo front, weaking the Bulgarian front.) Please tell if i messed up or missed anything. Thanks everyone and may YOUR God be with you in your battles to come.

[@ViktorEnns]

So, I've tried doing the Papal run 3 times now and every time I get stuck on the 60% Balance of Power mechanic. I use up all the decisions and focuses and yet can never go over the 60% threshold. Has this been nerfed already? The pope never takes over. Your Yugo and Romania tip is quite handy for my current run. BTW I am monarchist now and can't justify on Turkey anymore since world tension is at 15%. Any ideas? Should I start again? I've waited this time with the justification to finish it on time before Germany declares on Poland but I flipped to Monarchist too quickly and lost the Fascist low cost justification ability.

[@azizim99]

​@@ViktorEnns last patch update nerfed it, for the first couple of days you were able to rush to the Pope very quickly because the balance of power was not resetting to neutral after you change the fasicm council with his holiness. Now because it resets, the decisions you do only takes the balance to 60%. I've found that that given enough time (not sure exactly how much) one of the decisions pops up again and that way you ascend Pope to power.

[@harlz8568]

I am glad they just went full meme with the hidden papal states, they knew there was no way to even make it fit a weird alternative history and just ran wild with it.

[@gabbingdabbing]

The pope, how many division does he have? - joseph stallin, this one gives a whole new meaning to this.

[@nulnoh219]

Holy Roman Empire. Finally one that is Holy, Roman, and an actual Empire.

[@linkieloos]

Stalin: "The Pope! How many divisions has he got?" Pope: "You can't win, Stalin. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

[@MegaArmyCadet123]

I've tried doing this, but for whatever reason I can't seem to get to the stage where the pope ascends 😭

[@zapdent4742]

same :(

[@eggesu]

yeah me too

[@MegaArmyCadet123]

Figured it out, you gotta wait a year in game to do it, do all the extra power to the pope stuff then wait a year for it to reappear

[@ViktorEnns]

The two focuses with the shadows of Mussolini, do them after you've unlocked the papacy. That will give you enough Powerbalance to get the Pope.

[@meg_Lepi]

bro this is insane. Dave is soooooooooooo underrated man, I love his videos, they're super fun

[@iainthomson5475]

Did achievement this weekend, thank you. Main issue I had was getting Pope %. Left the focuses - Undermine the Duce and Conspiracies in Shadows to get over the edge. Also I could not get the Tac air as op as you did but still worked well. Roman empire created by September 40.

[@karlthorsten9118]

FeedBackGaming is literally the SPIFFING BRIT of HOI4.

[@timon6759]

I want to see what a fully cored Rome looks like

[@tarax007]

Been trying to replicate this, but I am not getting the balance of power I need to do it. Even with Liturgical reform and condemn fascism.. And I cant seem to figure out what I am doing wrong.

[@simplymatt6140]

I really liked the edits you did with the clipping masks. Keep up the great work you absolute legend :)

[@benismann]

5:53 why are baltic countries included? Aren't they like majority catholic?

[@MilordeLeo]

You can select another country in Ironman in this patch. Select the "Load" button, click in a save, and then press "random country" in the top left corner. You are welcome.

[@mrr9636]

Somehow I wound up without the pope having enough power to take the decision

[@linuskvarndal8212]

The decission doesnt work for me, i cant get the "hidden focus tree"

[@doge8346]

Bro took “the pope is dope” to a whole nother level

[@Red1Napoleon]

This game became meme officially sealed by developers

[@colonelreb2688]

If you do Plan Z as Germany after all the new nations and various paths I’ll use your code

[@Belgian_who_loves_Waffles]

Welp we will need a v2 because of the new update that resets the balance of power of his holliness to 0%😅

[@Robochuck]

I was just thinking that, 720 days is not enough. to get the pape to ascend the throne, it needs 1 full year of cooldown to the last decision

[@nickmorrow1838]

I can’t seem to get past 60% towards his holiness after I research “strengthen the papacy” and all 3 national power of balance modifiers. Am I missing a political advisor or

[@accountthatillusetocomment3041]

Holy Roman Empire but it's actually holy, roman and an empire

[@natjam2000]

For aome reason I had to wait an entire year to have the pope take control because the balance of power was only 50 percent after doing all the decisions

[@rossstewart74]

What the hell am I doing wrong? I can’t get enough BoP to fire the event, best I can manage is 60% toward “his holiness”? What am I missing? Does declaring on nations change it or something?

[@YungIsyan]

Same here 60%

[@ItsKamura]

I can hear The last Stand intensifying in the background

[@ausnorman8050]

That Star Wars insert was perfect.

[@FlaxsSeeds]

When you finish the "Strengthen the Papacy" focus you had 55% in favor of the pope then did the decision "liturgical reforms" and had the pope in charge, When I tried following the guide after I completed "Strengthen the Papacy" I only had 20% in favor of the pope. Why is this am I missing something or doing something wrong, because of this "the pope's ascendancy" event doesn't trigger and it would take another year to wait for "liturgical reforms" to be off cooldown, then I could get the pope but that's an entire year off pace. Any explanation helps.

[@rickfitzgerald7294]

They changed the focus "seek papal support". It now sets the balance to 0, therefore breaking the game

[@ViktorEnns]

Same issue. Previous commenters give 2 possible solutions: "you have to save the 2 focuses at the beginning that takes power from mussolini they change when you get the pope in the powerbalance." "another way to do this is to complete the focus "Utilize the Blackshirts" as well as "Foreign Affairs" and then hire the advisor named "Gian Galeazzo Ciano"." I will try these on my next run.

[@ViktorEnns]

Solution: The two focuses with the shadows of Mussolini, do them after you've unlocked the papacy. That will give you enough Powerbalance to get the Pope.

[@alexjennings2178]

Truly, the best timeline

[@alexsasha5306]

Do you use some special templates or just use the recital ones? For troops

[@alexsasha5306]

12:57 okey, just got to this point :D

[@DumbCup]

Can’t wait for cas only papal state

[@iberia95_]

with 1.12.2 this strategy doesn't work because the first papal focus set your balance power to 0 :/

[@paulthiede]

Imagine not having done all the new achievements "legit"

[@vladokalaba2640]

Soooo we have: Papal state for Italy, Third Rome for Russia Holy Roman Empire for Germany and Holy Roman Empire for Austria (Austria-Hungary in Road to56 mod) Which is strongest?

[@vladokalaba2640]

There is Solomon empire for Ethiopia!

[@btemplar428]

Alexander Anderson has a quote for this. "Crusade?!"

[@frankvonstroheim8504]

7:57 Every single person on the internet: "IT'S THAT A JOJO'S REFERENCE!!!????"

[@bruv6294]

Thank you for giving me something to watch during the hurricane dave

[@MohammadMohsenK]

5:20 Oh No italy it's broken

[@Quatschkopflolxd]

This playthrough felt like it Was just one big Exploit Video except the fact that it all was just vanilla Focuses😂😂😂

[@MegaBetaman]

How do you manage to get the papal support that far by 1937? As soon as it swaps the council to the papacy it resets to zero for me and I have to wait a year to get more liturgical reforms.

[@giftedkommander1312]

I wonder how you get balance of power to 55% while not do any decision i try to form papal but i can't form it even do all the decision that support the pope i just get 60% with all decision and focus tree this is bugg? or i do it wrong at some point?

[@basswarnow]

Same problem, can't get enough papal %

[@YungIsyan]

I can only get 60% papal support

[@FlaxsSeeds]

I am also having this problem

[@YungIsyan]

@@FlaxsSeeds didnt manage to solve it yet

[@YungIsyan]

@@FlaxsSeeds still didnt manage to solve it

[@Xanwich]

4:07 how'd he get 55% i got 50 bru

[@jacksons4776]

having same isssue, probably got changed in a patch... video is from 6 months ago

[@noobliterally2145]

FeedBackGaming waiting 200 years for feedback on his gaming:

[@GyaruRespecter]

"That's right, the Catholic Church hates the heretics more than it does the heathens." As an EUIV player I can confirm that's a very solid and efficient list of priorities.

[@Ronald98]

It annoys the h*** outta me that he didn't notice that his planes had 0 ground attack hence 0 damage done to the divisions...

[@FeedbackGaming]

Doing less than 0.1 damage gets rounded to 0. So they are still doing damage

[@Ronald98]

@@FeedbackGaming IT'S STILL LOW DAMAGE FOR THE AMOUNT OF BOMB BAYS ON IT DAVE!

[@BlackKnigth323]

Idk if Feedback will see this, but the paranoia system in the Soviet Union is broken Not broken like the one we like, is broken like the pop up events (like purging generals) are not reducing Paranoia

[@vex3488]

What is this “Blood Alone” DLC, and why should I buy it?

[@LiberatasOmnium]

Probably realise this already but they've fixed that focus now - Seek Papal Support.

[@TheArklyte]

So, there is no requirement to annex Ethiopia for this? So the same game can have Kingdom of Jerusalem and Papal States?:D

[@m8956]

We can't expect God to do all the work! *The Pope as he conquers the world in the name of God and Rome*

[@raippakeisari2342]

“I don’t enjoy killing, but when done righteously, it’s just a chore, like any other.”

[@josephhrbidenn0]

I did everything in the video, got papal support to 65% balance of power, but no event for the pope?

[@Drzedan272]

8:00 - Holy Water is more efficient than oil

[@JacekUW]

I adore how absolutely broken this is. The only question is who is better: the Battle Pope or Maciek the Polish Bear King?!

[@henrylansing9734]

You should probably have made it clear that you don't cancel the justification on Turkey. Thanks for the guide though

[@LasiterCZ]

Il Vento Aureo.... is that a JoJo refference

[@WatcherOfYoutube]

*JoJo Reference copypasta goes here*

[@Masterhitman935]

Civ has nuclear Gandhi , Hoi has closeted war pope.

[@sjoerdbode45]

I tried this several times now, but I don't get the pope's balance over 60% to the left..what am I missing?

[@tomcraddock9627]

Same here

[@YungIsyan]

@@tomcraddock9627 Same here

[@DeutschSozialUnion]

Just a note for everyone, you can’t get to this focus if you choose king Umberto

[@daboss1113]

I don’t know why I can’t do it. The balance of power is never far enough to the pope. Even doing all the decisions and focuses for him

[@daboss1113]

@@milk4858 thank you! I ended up figuring it out

[@ciceronroma]

As a papist I approve of this. 😁

[@Shadycrisp]

I realized that the thrust to weight ratio doesn't work when I try the basic medium airframe with 2 medium bomb bays, 2 light bomb bays, and level 2 twin engine(also non-strategic materials). What am I doing wrong?

[@natjam2000]

I think they changed some stuff since this video

[@Shadycrisp]

Yeah I saw the updates. They added more weight I think.

[@Whiskey_Mutineer]

Cant ever get it to go past 60% even when using all of the events like disbanding the blackshirts and the like

[@powermoises7436]

Man my game went so different to this. First of all, Romania didn´t cross the river, so I have to fight them fully on their territory. Second, they delay me enought so UK was able to guarantee Bulgaria. Third, Spain didn´t accept being my puppet, so I had to (try) naval invade Gibraltar. Fourth, UK had their entire fleet active on the Mediterranean, so I didn´t have naval superiority and couldn´t launch any naval invasion.

[@Rikifekt]

Pope? How many divisions has he got? - Joseph Stalin

[@user-dpscriberz]

Turns out the pope can be a global superpower too

[@that_dude6818]

every time i go that route i only get 60% papal support and it dosnt trigger pls help

[@FeedbackGaming]

They changed it 😢

[@Quatschkopflolxd]

@@FeedbackGaming Theres always a way ;) look up

[@patu6126]

I'm stuck on 60% pope support how to i get it to 70%? I have done all the decisions to get power to his side.

[@GeneralBobby1]

you need to do Conspiracles in the Shadows after Seek Papal Support. This should give you the additional 10% needed

[@natjam2000]

​@@GeneralBobby1 ohhhhhhhhhh

[@emagunt3126]

How did you go in so many wars without triggers the allies?

[@FeedbackGaming]

France don't join allies until late 1938. SO do everything then

[@FurryCruz]

I don't see where you got so many increases for the pope, the council for fascism things moves it towards the pope too? Also why do the strategic materials thing, italy has ni problems with aluminium, is rubber that is the problem.

[@zoso8700]

Great work Dave, grazie!

[@ethancox4572]

Ofc this video pops up after I spend 8 hours getting this exact achievement.

[@tarax007]

I tried doing this a second time.... cursed game results... Soviet union = Kazakhstan France = French commune at war with USA Yugoslovakia = SFR yugoslovakia, allide with all of East asia

[@Hortifox_the_gardener]

Why did none of the first row of HoI4 tubers the Swiss Focus yet? Is it that boring or did Paradox put an embargo on that?

[@Thesis_O]

Mountain general

[@Vikingkingist]

Very confused when I try to go for the "Stalin, how many guns do you have?" Achievement it says I don't meet the requirements. I play as the Pope and take out the Soviet Union. I have made them fallen but, I get like 20% the War Score. Is there something I am missing? I am the one making them capitulate to me as the Pope but, it says it while I'm at war and when I take them out. I figured it out. It doesn't count if it's during the peace deal as I capitulate Siking's Soviet Union puppet. *No Idea how they manage to puppet when they weren't in the war.*

[@triersero2763]

2:50 nah, I was rubbing my head asking why does he have 26 fps?