Speedwing VS Miniwing Flight

This video illustrates the differences in flight-dynamics between Speedwings and Mini-Wings! Although people often think "smaller is better" -- the level of skill required for Speedfly.com lead-instructor Jeff Katz to proximity-fly a high-aspect-ratio Mini-Wing down this line is simply unfathomable.
(and he can do it on a tiny speedwing just as easily 😉)
⚡️🎶Speakerz ON 🔊 for @rufusdusol ~ Desert Night (Live From Joshua Tree)
Always a pleasure flying with you @flyingkatz ! 🙏
And BIG props to next-level drone pilot @ianjesr 🎥 🚁 for capturing the moment so gracefully!

[@gigaprose]

As "normal" paraglider pilot I say: guys, you are crazy!

[@joshuaclark9831]

I agree, 50 feet off of the ground, I'll just throw in a barrel roll here.

[@j01vno]

@@joshuaclark9831 Thats the reason why I fly a speedwing.. 😁

[@pasticceriacamozzi]

al minuto 1.17 hanno rischiato veramente tanto, da non fare at minute 1.17 they risked so much not to do

[@Igor-my6ml]

As a wingsuit guy I said not bad 😂

[@cloudkicker9593]

You know you did something right when the video is of a guy with unbelievable skill doing something unbelievably awesome and still people can't help but notice that the camera work stands out on it's own. Mad skills both!

[@dwightbernheimer331]

There should be a law that sez when you make one of these videos you Must state the make, model and size of the wing LOL great stuff thanks for posting... Dwight. Glendale Arizona.

[@stefansmuts8882]

I second that! Which wings and sizes are those?

[@laurynasjagelo5075]

@@stefansmuts8882 1st wing is a rapido3 or rapi-dos. The 2nd wing is a Little Cloud baby goose, probably size 13.

[@ZzigZzag]

I'd add the make and model of the drone too to the list :))

[@michelgremaud1242]

@@laurynasjagelo5075 the 2nd wing is a little cloud puffin 10,5

[@theflow497]

This is insane. What a graet line. Skills skills skills.No matter whether Speedwing, Miniwing or drone pilot. Thumbs up for this one.🤙🏽

[@jkRatbird]

:O So not only have i never seen a human fly anything with that kind of control, but this is also hands down the best filmed flight video ive ever seen, all categories. I hope whoever is filming this is globally known as the best in the business. I assume the mr. Katz already is. Why the fuck doesnt this video have more views??

[@SlightlyOverripeAvocado]

Came to say this but it was already said...

[@benedictcumberbatch4275]

@jonah “why doesn’t this video have the same views? Probably because not everyone is interested in the same thing.

[@gmy33]

speedwing is very steady and exactly made for this kind of flying .. the mini wing however ...can do almost the same ..but much more .. you can see clearly there is too much lift performance so you have to roll more to stay down its much more versatile and I think we are gonna see people doing more stuff with this kind of wing ..

[@heyitsalanhere]

This is now getting more exciting than the wingsuit vids...though they are amazing to watch aswel. Brilliant piloting from both here 👍

[@drewlawrence696]

WOW ! Incredible piloting skills from both pilots. I've only ever had a skydiving canopy at about 140° of bank on spirals with the canopy heavily 'loaded' & plenty of altitude in case things went south on me....kudos to these guys ! That 'Little-Cloud' mini-wing is sweet :)

[@debozebever]

The flying is fantastic... but credits to the drone pilot as well! Some sick moves of both of you!

[@ryandavis2229]

Sick video! Nice drone shots.

[@philippbrunner5740]

Glorious! The barrel rolls with that mini wing are as impressive as the drone flying skills..

[@RobbertvanHaaften]

damn epic flying and filming!!!

[@speedridingschool]

Nice One! Very instructive this Drone view!

[@Gabriel-Molitor]

3 crazy pilot, congratulations 🔥

[@mrgreatayush]

Just Awesome

[@marckaplan395]

Y'all are radiculous!

[@ag_4in]

The drums in the song .... 🙌🏻🔥🔥🔥

[@MrChohunsoo]

I have no idea. Respect!!!

[@JuanHernandez-ze3si]

Now this is how you film a speedflying video, excellent job.

[@sharkalucka]

This is nuts ! 😳

[@flight-appeal4046]

nice dronework. 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@Joemar_Rimando]

Thats awesome

[@dariuszaugustowski9705]

Very nice🖐😀

[@TechFreak51]

WOW ... Feels like a video game !!!

[@PawelOlas]

this is insane guys. I'm sticking to my huge 24 wing :-)

[@andrewadventures1]

Can this be reuploaded in 4K? Even if the footage is upscaled, KZbin's compression absolutely murders 1080p videos. Great footage btw

[@intheknow7659]

God id love to do this. Used to paramotor very aggressively years ago. Stopped flying as I got bored. I got to the point where Id do nothing but barrel roll..

[@ErikB605]

Some people carefully tread the line between excitement and danger. Some people do a one finger handstand on top of it.

[@jpkko292]

incroyable!

[@RyanHazell]

YES!!!

[@WeissJ]

What is the model and size of the Little Cloud glider?

[@perritosarpado318]

CRACKS GRACIAS ☝️

[@manlikeadz9377]

I'm gonna try this on my ground handler

[@heartsky]

Just a spectacular use of the 360cam, like it's made for it.

[@rovirosar]

How was that filmed?

[@francisdebriey3609]

Mad

[@conny-r]

Der Wahnsinn wenn das mal immer gut geht

[@bryanvanostheim]

😍

[@SamuelVerma]

Great video! 👏🏽 What Little Cloud wing is used in this video?

[@gmy33]

puffin 10,5 .. newer model from the baby goose 10 .. both are excellent !! for playing .. puffin I would even call pretty save ..

[@SamuelVerma]

@@gmy33 Thanks!👏🏽 Been thinking of switching from a speedwing to a miniwing for some time now to get some more flexibility ☺️

[@gmy33]

@@SamuelVerma speedwing is more stable .. but for dunesoaring or highwind mauntain flying lc is the best ... i srarted with dune flying and would never have use for speedwing ..

[@polvotierno]

In settings, change the playback speed to 0.5 and watch it in slow motion.

[@joshuaclark9831]

As a Paragliding/Paramotor pilot, I'm not sure what the learning curve is to get to this level, but I'm sure it's pretty steep. I wonder how many times they fly the line before they get it dialed in proximity wise. The room for error is very low, serious flying skill, almost superhero level shit here.

[@juupafilms]

here before this blow up.

[@Yergs]

awesome but freakiin crazy.

[@Ton369]

wow

[@Ploz5555]

I see very very little margin for errors for both. Any miscalculation could be hurtful! Funny thing is, I’m sure one think “nah, it is just pure mastering”, and in the same time, after such line, the thinking is like “whoa, I came close on this one, what a thrill “. Take care, guys, you’ve got only one life.

[@ParaKiteGliding]

Very wow! 👏 Which wing models and sizes are these?

[@stefansmuts8882]

I want to know too!

[@parapentefun]

and how high is the loading?

[@AntonMadness]

WHAT? A DRONE? You are kidding me! I thought this was shot with a Insta360 x2. The framing is soooo good wtff.... insane movie guys, chappo chappo,

[@rq4740]

DONT DIE BRO!!!

[@SergeyShakuto]

Where is it?

[@Aaron-je8od]

Damn .. that camera movement

[@christophermiller353]

I fly an 18 mini Roller and a 15 M ozone radios but almost all coastal high wind soaring. I always wanted to learn how to barrel roll but at 65 I try to keep it pretty conservative. Love the video where are you flying?

[@r.k.2487]

Same here. Flying since 1989 when non of these kind of wings existed. I'll give it a go in next live! PS: I love my Roller 16! :-)

[@christophermiller353]

@@r.k.2487 Where do you fly ? Just curious

[@r.k.2487]

@@christophermiller353 depends mostly on where the family wants to spend the holidays. Just came back from Ölüdeniz in Turkey, which has fantastic views. Been to nice places in New Zeeland, Australia and Bali, and I really learned a lot in Namibia near Swakopmund. I live near Cologne in Germany and have to travel to get up in the air. Sometimes it's the cost of Netherland, sometimes the alps. Where do you fly?

[@gmy33]

@@r.k.2487 ah so you did try little cloud ?

[@r.k.2487]

@@gmy33 unfortunately not. Not easy to get one just for trying. Would actually love to try the new Moustache :-)

[@michaelmckelvy9165]

F-CKING WOW!!! AWESOME!!!🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙

[@alexandergoodman7]

omfg!!!)))

[@LilleyAdam]

How do these differ from skydiving parachute

[@Wil_87]

These are essentially mini Paragliders... So, They're Aerofoil in profile, so they generate lift as they cut through the air, hence the name 'wing'. Meanwhile, a parachute descends, and so is not designed to 'generate lift' like a wing does. Mini wings and paragliders are tough, but no where near as heavy duty as a parachute would be. They are not designed for the levels of G-Forces experienced by a Parachute, especially when it deploys. Most glider pilots fly a wing, but carry a parachute as a safety option... Not that a parachute would be of use for much of this kind of acrobatic flying scenario! This is wayyy too extreme for me... I'm happy with flying the larger, 'full size' paraglider only 🙈 I hope that helps! 🙂

[@Fredriken]

@@Wil_87 A parachute/canopy designed for skydiving is also designed as a wing, meaning it generates lift in a similar way as an airplane wing. Just not as much as a paraglider wing. Unless you are talking about round canopies, they just descend as you say :)

[@drhakim8365]

R.I.P. for people like this.

[@walkerpercy8702]

Great skill level but the accidents happen to those who are hotdogging like this. All he has to do is miscalculate by 2 feet or get stuck in a downdraft and it's death or a wheelchair. If they keep flying this close to terrain it's not if it's when.

[@aec_corp]

Like ^ 10000

[@itsjustme4026]

the cameraman did the miniwing dirty

[@edumoreira8167]

One day...

[@mikemiller774]

So what is the difference? I didn't get it.

[@sergeig685]

if you do not fly mini wings/speedwings or at the very least paragliders, you won't. The speeding is clearly faster more dynamic and sticks to the terrain, while the miniwing tends to climb out of every dynamic maneuver. The speeding is doing barrel rolls while the miniwing are more of high wingover, etc

[@gmy33]

@@sergeig685 yep clear .. and with your mining you can topland maintains and feast at the beach with highlands .. but speeding is master in going downhill !!

[@exlifement]

Sizeeees please ;P

[@TheAdequateMedia]

Holy crap this literally had me tumbling down uncanny valley. I legit thought it was fake as shit.

[@Robert-xk9no]

I can't tell... It's 50/50 to me

[@joshuaclark9831]

@@Robert-xk9no definitely not fake

[@Robert-xk9no]

@@joshuaclark9831 oh now I trust you completely lol... No seriously the stunts on this channel look impossible, and if they were real they would've gone viral by now

[@joshuaclark9831]

@@Robert-xk9no they are viral, literally all over the place and I know several pilots who speed fly. What makes it look fake is the 360 camera effect. Look up Valentin Delluc or Jean Baptiste Chandelier on KZbin

[@ProTeslaVolt]

HOW???

[@glatisant74]

wouldnt bet a lot on these guys will live long

[@annekedam6846]

Spectaculair! That tumbling is not necassery...not scared to hit a rock?!

[@grieche7777]

Until someone cry …………

[@drgentlewolf]

must be a video game of PS 5

[@Lowe-life]

Is this real?

[@joshuaclark9831]

yes, it's definitely real. There are a lot of similar videos on youtube, most of these pilots probably aren't going to live to be 80, but they are definitely getting the most out of life.

[@MrCBMMUNICH]

but i like it...only to watch

[@user-jz7gv4vc7n]

Задача ведомого - не влететь в ведущего. 😊

[@rwhirsch]

mini wing is small enough thankyou.

[@joeysipos]

one slip up and your juice on a rock

[@purpleshy1502]

woh slow down there your going fast becareful micrc mike. i know you want to reborn again but not this fast

[@akantifirst]

Great vid but clickbait title. No difference explained and not clear which one is speedwing..

[@TheGrundigg]

Pretty clear that the first one is a speed wing and the second one is a miniwing, even without knowing the difference you can read, right?

[@sergeig685]

The difference is quite obvious in their maneuvers, speed, and how one stick to the terrain, while the other tends to convert speed to height.

[@gmy33]

... if you are a para pilot you see it clearly .. its food for speed rider pilots ..and the new class of mini wings that can almost do like a speed rider but much more in other terrains .. so it very informative for people who fly !! ..

[@joshuaclark9831]

It literally says Jeff Katz miniwing for the second flight and Carl Weiseth Speedwing for the first flight.

[@kulferhat]

This is attempt of committing suicide 😮

[@skywalkerneoblade]

He dead yet?

[@pedroclaro7822]

Nauseating. Wish the drone would fly still

[@reeset]

I feel sorry for your families

[@somecharactersnotallowed1319]

Looks like Utah near SLC or Orem!

[@zoomhardin]

yawn.