Spice 1 Goes Off on Making $30K While Label Made Nearly $12M, Vlad Educating Scar Lip (Part 18)

[@THEHEAVYSPITTERSDVD]

Need Spice 1 voice on GTA6

[@STEAKnyfeCYRUS]

Fa Sho!

[@quincykhalifa]

An music !!

[@jackboyholla4002]

That’s never coming out rockstar making to much money on what they got out now plus they just released the original red dead redemption for $50 str8 pimping

[@Flynning]

I can’t unsee that now 😂

[@themichaelphone]

This one of the greatest comments ever I 100 percent agree!!!

[@echad6259]

That Scar lip topic is going to come up everytime.

[@melinated-n-hated6472]

This is why you never sign a contract without having a lawyer boys and girls

[@BigHeadUgly]

They didn’t know nothing about that back in the day. It was easy for the record execs to take advantage, and they knew it.

[@davruck1]

They had to learn the hard way so that you don’t. Give them their respect.

[@pollyanna147]

@@BigHeadUgly This wasn't 1955

[@jackjill8129]

It's not that simple

[@BigHeadUgly]

@@pollyanna147 soooooo, people were still getting cheated in the 80s and 90s

[@antoniosmith197]

Its crazy Spice was putting out gold and platinum records and was making just as much as the everyday middle income Joe

[@jackjill8129]

That's the same story for 2pac (before deathrow), TLC, biggie and pretty much all of the 80s/ 90s rappers and singers. It's sad but they all got taken advantage of.

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

​@@jackjill8129damn

[@jacobbruce3174]

Spice 1 never went platinum only gold

[@antoniosmith197]

@@jacobbruce3174 He said his first album went platinum

[@jacobbruce3174]

He said it sold 900,000 copies none of his albums ever went platinum @@antoniosmith197

[@briandukes1619]

Happy that vlad put her up on game. Knowing is half the battle

[@dcsniper1874]

Spice 1’s first 5 albums were absolute 🔥🔥🔥

[@johnnybraxton5539]

Record labels are dirty shout out all real independent labeles who only did distribution deals

[@jackjill8129]

A lot of them robbed their artist's too whether naively or intentionally. No limit, cash money, Soso Def, bad boy just to name a few.

[@HandsomeMofoJo]

That was the realest sh!t you spoke Spice💯

[@georgelhannon7845]

Much Love and Respect for Spice 1. Dropping knowledge after they rob him.

[@scottmcdowall4230]

Now days people have the tools to make it on their own, but will still sign bad contracts just to be associated with a big label..

[@williambrown8654]

Black folks always get robbed,in all facets of American life,black folks don't understand the mental exploitation

[@Katz3y3GAMEZ]

@@scottmcdowall4230I heard spice 1 is in debt which is why sv33 is signed w him sv33 is new upcoming lv rapper or idk if it’s lv but yeah, I signed up for a performance bday thing that was supposed to happen this Saturday suddenly it’s postponed to August and prices to perform went up. $35 for 5 min initially then now it’s &75 for 5 mins, and this is coming from word-of-mouth from very very small timers in my city of Las Vegas when we talk about SV 33

[@jaye5926]

stay independent & if u get a deal just get a 50/50 distribution deal...& always keep 100% OF YOUR PUBLISHING MEANING WHAT U WRITE YOURSELF!

[@joshingram071]

It's no surprise that most these modern artists are going to Empire for distribution deals. They don't need the majors. Social media, strong fanbases, & shows giving these artists the advantage now.

[@jaye5926]

@@joshingram071 yep...

[@fresh5237]

Even with a distribution deal I wouldn’t do 50/50 maybe a 70/30 you never give equal when you doing all the work

[@jaye5926]

@@fresh5237 most distribution deals want 50/50 but if u can get a better deal...sure...do it 👌👍

[@SaltyDogSEAL]

Even if someone sat these guys down beforehand and told them how the industry work, they still would sign that bad deal.

[@yourstrulybostonyourstruly3185]

I need Spice voice for my siri haha, glad you still around tho King. Real always win!

[@Realdorrian]

This was a great conversation

[@Sal.C.Breezy]

Damn Spice 1 first album Classic💿🔥🔥🔥 I still bump that album👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@AstonMichaels]

Sad to say Spice 1 is almost 50 and now about to experience being independent. He has over 30 years experience in making music but not understanding business. Thank you OG for dropping amazing music and now about to eat off your own fame

[@KJgoKraazy_253]

He’s 53

[@dcreative3293]

He's been independent for a minute

[@lildeeinthafield4790]

Meek mill just made a post about this today it's real I'm going independent

[@levelimeade9613]

Let this be a lesson to everybody trying to jump in the music game , remember this could happen to any of us generate and 11 million only seeing 30k...💯🤙🏽... Let's get this spice one interview to a billion views..... This man speaking ghetto gospel...

[@patricklandond1]

This the realest clip… props to Spice for being extremely honest…

[@lsureppin225]

shit was deep AF

[@THEHEAVYSPITTERSDVD]

Drake need Spice on a hook

[@tomburkart7814]

Drakes to soft

[@THEHEAVYSPITTERSDVD]

@@tomburkart7814 just for a hook...same way he did project pat

[@Unouknow420]

I feel bad for Spice1 Tupac Shakur spoke highly of him it's unfortunate had Pac Survive Spice 1 definitely be a Multi millionaire bro give us Classic back to back I'm glad he at least making his Rounds 😤💯🙏🏿

[@micahhayes8770]

Mark Cuban would always say NO off rip to music artist on Shark Tank bc he said music/record label contracts are the worst contracts in ALL of business.

[@trump1105]

💯

[@dheywood75]

That Spice One, Half a Mil collab is still knockin ... 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@kendrickellis8726]

TALKKK SPICE

[@Destroyer-Grizzly-BIH]

That’s crazy as shit but not surprising at all.

[@leeleeIE]

That means he didn’t even get half of a half of 1 percent. That’s like .003%.

[@MillZ56]

Accurate, that’s average royalty payout

[@jackjill8129]

And his story not even the worst. If you think he got it bad look into what happened to TLC.

[@abdielrobles7565]

Spice is a legend for real

[@TheMelodyGod]

Facts lol

[@1pradakid]

✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

[@TClint850]

Only a fool would sign with a label after watching this interview

[@jonathancoleman6482]

Facts not worth it

[@DukeDeNiroDollas]

3:49 shit hurt my heart. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@TheMartian4u]

That’s why I feel even rappers rocked with dolph…. My guy was really independent.

[@nuttybuddy14]

They showed you whos the real jackboys 😂😂😂

[@davruck1]

People think cuz it’s legal that it’s ok. Of course they make their robbery legal.

[@nuttybuddy14]

@@davruck1 yup

[@toorealforearth1981]

What Spice was talking about the contracts that’s why Suge and Pac had to be stopped cause Suge really didn’t need Interscope anymore he could have used his own money to distribute Makaveli, Doggystyle, Hammer Time and Deathrow East records and then he had a movie star in Pac which he could have made a movie studio and the artist would have seen their money but September 7th happened and down goes the dream

[@leanbaptiste7285]

Yup !

[@MillZ56]

+ the other bosses that were throwing in for the distribution company, J Prince, Irv Gotti etc

[@leanbaptiste7285]

Suge got interscope out of bankruptcy!!!! Jimmy said he went to a meeting with guys like owner of time Warner ect & they told him why don’t you put those niggers on a payroll like McDonald’s pay there employees. Jimmy claims he said that’s these guys hard earn money I’m not going to take there money. But when suge came home round 05 he said I stole the game from Eric wright & jimmy sent me to prison & stole death row from me

[@toorealforearth1981]

@@MillZ56 that was when he got out but then the Feds came in and shut that down Murder Inc with the money laundering charges Suge with Michael and Lydia saying they gave Suge drug money to help start Deathrow which I thought when someone admits to funding a business with drug money the Feds take over the company and sell all the assets but not in this case they awarded Michael and Lydia Harris that 102 million judgment which bankrupted Suge and I forgot what they were looking into J Prince about but they slowed him down also

[@adamhodge9370]

Ahahaha

[@joestar6194]

He robbed people and people robbed him. Fair exchange is not robbery.

[@SaltyDogSEAL]

What’s crazy is some of these older rappers are running the same game the industry ran on these young kids today

[@c_average4618]

Step 1 - Learn how to read Step 2 - practice reading Step 3 - practice comprehension Step 4 - get a lawyer

[@donlljackson330]

Real talk og

[@Iceburgg]

Why my man got the Joker grin at 2:08?

[@johnnyparker2128]

At 0:55 that lip..............and E-40 didn't look out for him?

[@TheStrategos392]

Hire legal counsel to review all documents before you sign anything. Make sure you retain majority or all ownership of your masters and publishing. Sounds like the label took all his masters/publishing. Probably didn’t have a lawyer review his paperwork either. Learn from Spice.

[@derekgoodejr8788]

Real Rap 💯💯💯

[@THEINFAMOUS1011]

I’m not even a rapper and I knew that if a label gave you $1Mil it wasn’t yours.

[@markd.holloman5187]

I recommend starting your day with a double cappuccino and Spice1 dropping knowledge on you. "This shit ain't no game, it's a business." All day.

[@dagangsta0fluv]

... When She Scratched Her Head and Her Whole Scalp Moved From Right to Left is Crazy 😮

[@DominickFloyd-g4f]

The pen 🖊️ is mightier than the sword 🗡️ myG💯

[@nealxl6256]

Hire an entertainment attorney and it will hopefully prevent this situation

[@TheMemphisJelksShow]

Respect

[@pernellhaynesworth1212]

💎

[@matttreece9036]

One love triple OG! Speak on it. Keep grindin and you’ll be straight. Prayers up. Dope ass Magic Johnson jersey. That contract shit is whack. Keep your head up homie like PAC said. Peace from the LBC homeboy. California love!

[@jallison5457]

PSA , The music business been going on forever, and since the beginning of it there has always been a artist getting robbed or being taken advantage of.and the cold part is they unknowingly sign up to get robbed. Imagine being an artist and sumbody makes more money from you’re art than you do. Guess that’s why it’s called the music business, Bcus the artist makes the music , and the label does the business.

[@Destroyer-Grizzly-BIH]

May as well get a 9-5, at least you can keep your sanity somewhat.

[@davruck1]

More dignity in hustling.

[@ThurroAlexander]

If you're an up & coming artist, BEFORE you sign ✍️ a contract 📄, hire an ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER to go over it & EXPLAIN everything in there to you!

[@ThurroAlexander]

It is better to pay an entertainment lawyer up front, than paying a record label on the back end... You'll end up paying way more or might even end up being in debt to the label...

[@MrCapri92]

30K is less than 1% of 11M. They most likely got away with that by telling the accountants all the money went to promoting, travel, security, etc.

[@devintruesdell5310]

Spice is and was da muthafuckin TRUTH!! Im from Chicago we was BANGGIN Spice early 90s. America's Nightmare my whole jr year in High school bangged that tape!! Basement parties all that shit!! That nigga should of been paid. He wasn't jus hot in da west coast he was FIRE MID WEST TOO

[@twistedtonguevideos6292]

The Elders should have never sold hip hop..they gave you .03 percent...that's criminal

[@Jon_8]

Well, when your labels named 'Jive'...

[@mr24thageneral1]

I remember meeting Spice 1 in Houston Texas He told me they give him 25 cents off $13 dollars 💸 I met him through Wickett Crckett Early 90's

[@rondoughhowell6442]

I don't like Akademiks but he was right these rappers aren't taken care of by these record labels and so many of them become broke and dusty because of it

[@cedricfontenette9187]

Well u have to think hip hop really took off in the mid 80’s 90’s so they didn’t have og’s in that genre to put them on game about the contracts……..these days rappers have guys like 50, jay-z, snoop, master p, birdman, t.i, Nelly, ice cube, dr. dre etc to get game from to learn from there mistakes

[@lyricaldre42]

This y Viacom bought all the independent distribution companies and independent DJs from local radio out. The mom n pop stores are gone. They did that when they started seeing bay area niggaz like E40, jt the bigga figga, Mac Mall ect and Houston "screwed up click n swisha house" make independent money from albums n compilations out the trunk. Master P n Baby wuz pretty much the only niggaz seeing bread from any major distribution. Dj screw made all that money at his house from his own tapes jus for the feds to pay a visit thinkin he was sellin dope. It's all fucked up

[@TimmyJackson]

hOW COME PEOPLE DIDNT KNOW THATS HOW A MUSIC DEAL WORKS. Its the same type of system as publishing deals in the book industry. Been that way since been that way

[@victoregglestonn4166]

They been doing this shit for years...at one time all they give them a car..lol

[@syeebrown5456]

They stopped promoting spice 1 because he started getting trash after 97 and the records were not selling. Keep it real. And im a spice 1 fan. Just being real

[@Black-Pill-7411]

I'm an old school spice fan too and in my opinion his last great album was amerikaz nightmare....everything after that was just okay

[@syeebrown5456]

@blackpill5867 that's true bro. But spice 1 on here talking like he was doing drake numbers or something. He started getting weak. I actually think Jive. Released him. Because he wasn't selling at all anymore and the last album with Jive. IMMORTALIZED was trash. Lol

[@l3tme545]

​​@@syeebrown5456well in spice defense. He wasn't getting paid.. so don't give ur best to bad situation.

[@syeebrown5456]

@@l3tme545 he wasn't getting paid because he wasn't generating enough money to pay the labels bac. He has to pay them bac for videos and everything else they gave him. They were probably breaking even or maybe taking a loss

[@l3tme545]

@@syeebrown5456 that's my point. If they wasn't paying him well . Why pay them well . I'd drop bad albums too.. F kem!!. Spice is always going to be loved no matter what. Deal or not.

[@timmydiamonds]

That's sad. That man didn't even get paid half a percent for his classic album.

[@Anthony-fe4oj]

I definitely pulled out a calculator when he said 900,000 x 13 is 12 million, I swore he was trippin. Turns out I’m trippin. Idk why thought it was way higher

[@OzonebxGaming]

No way they spent 5 plus million on his album and advance. He must have singed a deal worser then a 360

[@vladtv]

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[@THECHAPLIN]

And scar lip have not been seen since

[@trump1105]

Right

[@brianmitchell8479]

I heard about this and if would have got shown the business side of the music he would have made more money 💰

[@fredm.2699]

60 year old wearing a white tee and jersey 😂😂😂

[@Lucky-gk7ez]

What age should a person stop rocking jerseys and white tees?

[@ynicjay01]

60? You just talking

[@fredm.2699]

@@Lucky-gk7ez lol I’ll keep this secret within me and my family…y’all keep rocking them

[@fredm.2699]

@@ynicjay01 righttttt…I got the age wrong by a few years so that invalidates my point…

[@bb8942]

I don't understand why they're just not independent, why even signed a record deal with another label

[@misane2212]

And those were three of the greatest albums of all time real shit America’s nightmare 187 proof and murder he wrote specially murder he wrote

[@MillZ56]

Shit don’t make no sense!! Goddamn right Spice 🫡

[@flirtwd]

Tony Braxton got screwed to as well as TLC.

[@tutaleniilonga7306]

Spice 1 failed so that new generation rappers could get better deals

[@davruck1]

Exactly. That’s why you always gotta respect the older generation

[@CaviarTee]

..I listen to 187 he wrote more than the Chronic dam shame he only got 30k

[@derrickwilliams936]

I feel spice 1 pain. Music industry shady all the way around. How can u make more money than the artist that’s putting in the work and creativity

[@boriqualove5568]

Mofos be signing those struggle contracts

[@rondoughhowell6442]

Especially in Hip Hop

[@supaman404]

I feel anybody that came out after NWA can’t use this excuse. Sometimes you gotta learn from other mistakes.

[@LaCheleWallace]

See, this is why I believe all of this stuff is rigged. You done generated $12M, but only ended up taking $30K home. Man, please. Raise up. Like that's not right, yo. I believe the labels used to give artists set prices. "Ok, Spice 1. He's just some ol' rapper. Let's give him...Oh I don't know... Let's give him $30K. That should be enough (more than enough) for somebody like him." Folks keep talkin' 'bout some "lawyers," but the gag is that a lot of labels assigned in-house lawyers to they artists and if they weren't assigned in-house lawyers, other lawyers that handled music business affairs were kinda affiliated w/ the label in some way, shape or form. Hire another lawyer to handle yo' primary lawyer. All of that sounds good, but sh¡t... Lawyers ain't no nickels & dimes nah. Lawyers cost a coin. I just believe all of this stuff is rigged. En Vogue made $0.02 if a unit moved. TLC generated $75M, but only ended up pocketing $50K per girl. Artists gotta pay record labels back for various expenses, worry about taxes and themselves. Next thing you know, you done ended up in the red looking stupider than Jupiter. The execs done purchased all the latest luxury cars while you can barely get on the doggon bus. I can see why artists use to go up to record labels w/ guns and bats. And see, all that "it's all about the art" BS goes right outta the window when them checks come up short.

[@deshonmarshall9184]

Spice has no what I was doing to 187 The Murder he wrote. Anyway what he's saying..Is so true I got out of the music fir various reasons. I'm one of the best...in away I'm happy a choose a different path. If I didn't I could just imagine what I would have done and were I would right now. I never stopped because I wanted too...God just had a different plan...I'm laughing with wife hearing this...by by someone I always talk about and still play it. Life is funny at time. Much respect Spice

[@gerardovega4641]

Spice 1 been independent since 2000.

[@adamrobbins2091]

Wonder who runs that label

[@Mr.Majestic77]

Spice 1 & Ras Kass Versuz DJ Quik & Kurupt Who wins? Has Spice 1 & DJ Quik ever done any music together???

[@bakshotcruz5361]

Lmfao Hustling people “in the streets” to getting hustled by “industries “

[@antoniogriffin5716]

Knwledge is pwr!!!

[@MrMeezykilla]

At the end of the day. He signed the contract..

[@charlesbecoat3090]

Seems like some of the ghetto gangsters should’ve been reading books and contracts or getting lawyers while they were writing their raps !

[@corndizzel]

Well you signed the contract. That sucks but it got signed. Read what you sign.

[@AnonYmous-mh2us]

its good to gain knowledge, tho that million$ thing isnt something an established artist should be skooled on in a broadcast interview...looks bad.

[@tabiasshakur7213]

dam

[@AstonMichaels]

Wow even after so many have talked about how bad contracts are, business information out here, many other ways to sustain a career in music, we still have people in the dark. She is about to get jerked. She probably already signed some type of contract even if it’s for management

[@ratherunique8137]

DJ_Akademiks is watching this with a huge smile on his face

[@twistedmental1608]

Artist make most of their money on tours, shows and interviews. Maybe merch if you lucky.

[@GottieFloyd]

This shit right here …lol

[@spen3354]

You traded the riches for WAP, 40s, and weed

[@CEE662]

Amerikkkaz Nightmare...and yall aint pay this man....shit crazy!...wtf

[@johncampbell383]

Learn the business before signing everything period dirty industry!!

[@Infinitynoends1]

Spice they owe you about 8.25 million USD that’s 75/35 reasonable deal….

[@bigrx1946]

This what meek mill talking bout 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@tomburkart7814]

Meek wasnt born when Spices, first album came out.

[@CEE662]

I always thought all the videos I watched on The Box the rappers was gettin big time money...record business aint shit!....pimpin and hoein'

[@antoniogriffin5716]

Strap on the side