It's Clear Someone's Benefiting From Kenya's Debt, Leaders Must Confess- Allan Namu

[@NoirLumiereVie]

As a Gen Z, we studied many interesting books in high school, but one, in particular, stood out-the play "Betrayal in the City" by Francis Imbuga. At one point, he says, "It was better while we waited. Now we have nothing to look forward to. We have killed our past and are busy killing the future." Our capital city serves as a hub for money laundering by Western imperialists, while the political class is busy looting without restraint. Instead of taking responsibility, the people blame others for their suffering. We call on certain individuals to save us, but we can only save ourselves. Raila, Ruto, Uhuru, and all the big-bellied thieves live luxuriously because of our hard-earned money. None of them truly fights for us; they all eat from the same plate. Come 2027, the same script will be played, and we'll suffer from selective amnesia, paying non-existent debts to offshore accounts to fund the lifestyles of the privileged few. The day we realize that we have one common enemy and it's not our neighbor is the only day this country can move forward. Otherwise, the cycle will continue.

[@NN-cv4gz]

👍💯

[@abocas]

Well, while there is currently no evidence of "money laundering Western imperialists" there is plenty of evidence of Kenyan politicians and public servants plundering their own country! As you heard in the beginning of this broadcast, loans were taken locally, the equivalent amount of the international loan. Meaning that a local loan could have financed the said road. No need to go and take loans from outside. Still it was done. International banks don't come to Kenyans to offer loans. Kenyans go to international banks for loans. So the entire blame is on Kenyans. Or Kenyan leaders. I recommend watching a recent interview on JKlive (citizen tv) with the current chairman of EACC. If ou are shocked by this interview, you will have a sleepless night watching the JK interview.

[@philipotenyo8236]

Foolish Kenyans will tell you what they have been saying since moi era, "give the president more time to understand where some tools are found in statehouse because the house is quite big". They did it with kibaki, uhuru, and now with ruto

[@seraphinakathurima2925]

Very well said.

[@dorothyonyango6575]

Very well said! 👏🏽 ❤

[@johnfooldevil4909]

Allan Namu and spice fm have taken journalism to another level in our country. This is what Kenyans need to understand the political leaders they vote in.

[@BettyMesso-hq6il]

Kina John Allan Namu r the kind of journalists needed in Kenya, but sad part…nothing is done with this kind of information, instead their lives r at stake. or join them if u can’t beat them. Mohammed Ali, “jicho pevo” hw far?

[@karenagufana6928]

I was in Sri Lanka last year during the economic crisis. I remember how it all started with small protests and it didn't look serious, even the politicians went on just taking it lightly. Everything we are going through now as a country was just similar to what was happening. In a few months, (4 months ) the government could not afford to import basics like fuel, food, and even medicines, that's when people took matters into their hands. We don't want to get there, trust me. I saw the money depreciate, and the inflation rate going up to upto over 50%, currently, our inflation rate (Kenya) is at 8% so you can imagine how it feels like when it gets to above 50%. You go to the shop tomorrow and the bread you bought yesterday at 50 is even up to 500. We don't want to get there trust me. Let's pray for our nation and do better.

[@jayjay3334]

On the flip side the Sri lankan economy has since recovered and the crooks ran away. I wish them all the best

[@karenagufana6928]

@@jayjay3334 What do you mean it has recovered? There is still a lot more to be done. Let’s just say they are managing because of the IMF bail out they received. So they are making do. It can only be sustainable if policies are changed and after next year’s election if they do better. Or else they are still prone to sinking again.

[@jayjay3334]

@@karenagufana6928 economy projected to grow by 3% in 2024. Rupee is recovering as well. They will be in better shape than us next year. I however hope for a more peaceful resolution of our issues at home

[@gordonomondi7161]

Yes let's pray BUT genuine prayers NOT prayer breakfasts whereby sausages, samosas, juices and interrupts and pollute the mind.

[@karenagufana6928]

@@jayjay3334 Trust me I still live here and there is still a lot to be done. Otherwise that bail out isn’t the solution. The solution is sensible sustainability if the Econ. Their election next year will be a huge determinant and the new regimes policy implementation

[@gw7768]

...we have all the information we need to make the decision we need to make. It's not possible that John-Allan, Jimmy Wanjigi, Controller of Budget, Okiya Omtata are all wrong. The key is the middle class. Once they feel the pinch nicely, then we move. Right now, those at the bottom understand. Those at the top couldn't care less coz they have alternatives. Those in the middle (all those mostly employed and with sizeable businesses) still have their paychecks albeit the value is lower. Until those in the middle become uncomfortable enough to join those at the bottom......no one can pretend that their ears are not working and their eyes are not seeing....

[@chania80]

This is why the sharp fuel price increase is a blessing in disguise. The middle class is uncomfortable for once.

[@Huku_UG]

Well put ... it's a matter of time

[@georgepresley5120]

But it's the bottom who vote!! It's their gullibility that helps corrupt politicians win elections again and again. It's them who strongly believe in nonsensical statements like bottom up

[@eddahjep2102]

Listening to this and it was posted 11 months ago. Finally people got that pinch and they couldn’t take it anymore

[@allan.koskei]

John Allan Namu is a sober journalist worth hearing.

[@mosesjacksonkarashani2642]

I now believe Jimmy Wanjiku more than ever. He dissected the whole situation in a simple language that everyone understood but there are some people who are still doubting him!😢

[@AnalystTosh]

Wanjigi

[@mosesjacksonkarashani2642]

@@AnalystTosh Typo

[@lekis5975]

Only Wanjingas will buy into Wanjigi wholesale. This man educated his children at La Rosey, with whose money? Wanjigi's nose was deep in the trough until he got cut out. The only reason he's able to shoot off his mouth unscathed is because he has good insurance. I bet you he's got a video naming names, places, times, amounts, that's why they can't touch him. He's just making enough noise to be a nuisance until they get fed up and create a place for him at the table!

[@francismurage895]

​@@AnalystToshthat's a big name

[@Fred_Sagala]

John Allan Namu is a voice of reason, the political class are taking us for a ride, wajinga ni sisi

[@carolmbithe8539]

And we are not feeling it yet

[@georgepresley5120]

walitoka wapi kama si nyinyi mnawapigia kura

[@patrickndichu3905]

Wajinga sisi, chambilecho kaka sungura aka Mr rabbit 🐰.

[@patrickndichu3905]

@@georgepresley5120 Unataka wapigiwe na nani?

[@georgepresley5120]

@@patrickndichu3905 wajinga nyinyi

[@ngurekim6278]

I think I'm now beginning to get it. It looks like, since before independence, Kenya was configured to become a full-time "Fuliza Economy." Global lenders were going to pile endless loans on us - tupende tusipende. We were programmed to borrow huge amounts of foreign capital, whether we need the money or not. Because of that predisposition, it then must follow that the international lending cabals will only allow politicians to rise to power in Kenya dependent on how prone or willing they are to gobble and guzzle more & more foreign loans on our behalf. Reminds me of those coffee & dairy cooperatives of Murang'a where perennially, "Bwana Chairman" will blatantly sign huge loans with banks, shylocks and peddlers of hardware, allegedly "on behalf of the farmers." When it get to the point where the produce revenues are not enough to pay off the debts, the leaders begin to borrow to pay the old loans - while still borrowing new loans - until consequently, those entities have to be put under receivership and ultimately auctioned. Tuko na shida kubwa....

[@partozkikosi7615]

Well said.

[@adameve6623]

Kibaki left us with 2 trillion debt. We have borrowed over 8 trillion in just 10 yrs. This is madness

[@lekis5975]

Well said. Kenya is one big SLAVE PLANTATION, but people don't realise. they are busy blaming these politicians not realising that Bwana Mkubwa (Mkoloni) is still in charge. After the 2nd World War, the USA devised the Marshall Plan and gave Europe £13 billion to rebuild. £13 Billion = £175 Billion in today's money. The Marshall Plan include *Loans* (at very low interest rate of 2%), *grants* and *skills transfer.* Europe was able to rebuild and become equal trading partner within no time. African countries began to gain independence a decade later, yet there was no Marshall Plan for Africa! They gave us loans in bits and bobs, at ridiculous prices, never mind we had the collateral (resources) to meet the loan payments. The loans were geared towards projects that furthered the Mzungus interest. Sometimes they would change their mind in the middle of funding a project. When we showed a keen interest in education, they used the IMF and World Bank to defund our education! In the 80s they wanted the govt to shut down local universities so that they could pick and choose who goes to study in England, this way they would limit university education all whilst benefitting from overseas students (it's huge money maker for the UK). Moi refused to shut down Unis and instead decided limit the number of students by introducing the crazy 8-4-4 system where students had to sit 10 subjects to gain entrance; and that is how they whittled down the number of students who went to University. Today education in Kenya is highly privatised never mind in the UK only 6% of students are privately educated. The figure is 7% in the States. Meanwhile in Kenya, parents are killing themselves to send students to private schools! Kenya is a mess in more ways than I can count

[@PeterKanyoni]

In 1987, Thomas Sankara urged all African leaders not to pay the debt and to unite on that front. He also warned that if they do not join him he will not attend the next OAU conference. He was killed that same year.

[@johnkuma6867]

But how did your kind vote ruto and it was in public domain this corrupt character and crimal was not fit to be a president anywhere

[@MikeGashi]

John-Allan Namu should be protected at all cost. What he explained was very plain and straight to the point.

[@JadeReal]

YES JOHN ALLAN NAMU IT DOES SEEM STRANGE that the whole of africa is having the same issue. I’ve been saying this to anyone willing to hear.

[@thuok01]

But we all borrow in USD. And greed is sommon across the continent.

[@Coachzeph]

Are they planning to sabotage simultAneously...alll countries in africa

[@smkariuki]

Nothing strange there.... During slavery Africans caught other Africans and sold them to mzungus... After independence Africans started overthrowing other Africans, political assassination etc it's still a jungle out here.... Everyone for themselves

[@qatoi6943]

Spice FM is super educative.

[@anthonyinyanya213]

I love this brother. a very intelligent guy. He should get into activism or be appointed to human right department or NIS. May God protect him until he releases to us the results of the investigations.

[@alicemwangi555]

😊😊😊

[@alicemwangi555]

Wàw lol

[@chrismutisya]

He does not need an appointment. He is more effective working independently.

[@anthonyinyanya213]

@@chrismutisya sure bro. My prayer is that God protects him and that he should never be easy to loose his focus just like Moha got compromised.

[@notsriricjuma4646]

One strange thing with politics is that such bright minds lose their minds once they get there. Look at Kindiki, a professor in law.

[@Fred_Sagala]

We need just 1000 genuine, and honest countrymen like Allan and we liberate our country, not the Azimio maandamano type of approach, that day is coming

[@fridachepkogei8633]

I agree with you

[@juliamongina6084]

Don't blame azimio blame yourself 😂😂😂😂😂🎉

[@martinkilaha6127]

​@@juliamongina6084I second

[@miriamojwang9881]

There are thousands of genuine and honest folk in the country. They just happen to be in spaces where they can't be heard or taken seriously. They also probably don't have the Mheshimiwa kind of money that makes Kenyans listen.

[@anzarcademy]

@@miriamojwang9881 and that being said...maandamano didnt have to happen, but it did. and it will continue. Trust me these guys on the TV earn more than half a million in a month, dont listen to them say "This is only for the politicians". Its their opinion and when you buy bread while earning 20GZ, think.

[@bmathesh]

Thank you John. This debt issue is the main issue facing out country.

[@miltonbillah337]

The reason we don't move forward is because we don't own up to our behaviours and resort to blame game in order to hide failures. We resort to defence mechanism and this doesn't go well into resolving issues.

[@ndutzz100]

That's right 💯💯

[@alphaxardkimoto3644]

Kenyans do not have an agenda, we are Raila vs Ruto nonsense. Let us judge each man's history and actions without accepting political enemies idiocy. Make your politician answerable . Is Ndindi Nyoro's CDF more than Wandayi's or Junet's that he pay fees for all day scholars and still repair schools. Ken Okoth build schools and hospitals in 5 years. Was it more than Raila had for 15 years.

[@Safaricom_]

Don’t forget “mtu wetu syndrome “!

[@lucyruto2008]

Thats what has caused us to be where we are😢😢

[@LikizoB]

Exactly. Such conversations are merely academic discussions

[@Safaricom_]

What a great guest!

[@johnmiriti9768]

In a Jeff koinange live show, one, kivutha kibwana declared his candidacy to lead us, and we saw a kibaki 2..but along the way he bolted.

[@Rhenadhis]

We are the point where we are quickly being diasubused of the notion that there is nothing we can do; the revolution is cooking, it is boiling, it is coming. Thanl you John Allan Namu and all media persionalities like the spice team for this show who hve worked tirelessly over the years to educate us, i pray that i see you guys bear the fruits of your labour in my generation

[@Qwendie]

Today my eyes opened! 😢😮 Thank you Namu for your dedication

[@abocas]

One of the greatest investigative journalists of Kenya, John-Allan Namu Thank you fr bringing him on 🙏

[@miriamojwang9881]

I agree with the lady. We need to reach rock bottom before we can seriously start demanding accountability from the government. We don't have to go all the way to the bottom but it would seem like it is the only thing that will wake Kenyans up.

[@luscindaoginga8687]

Yea Kenyans are slow learners when it comes to change. I agree it might take us to hit rock bottom to make a turn around.

[@TheTororist]

it depends on what you think rock bottom in kenya will look like. in Rwanda it was genocide

[@luscindaoginga8687]

Good point, I wouldn't want it to get that far. That's the ultimate bottom, what I mean is we need to be collectively fed up and demand change withing the limits of the law.

[@bintimkitosi6187]

Be careful what you pray for. You don't know what it means to be a refugee.

[@luscindaoginga8687]

@@bintimkitosi6187 who prayed for war?

[@janjaz]

l like this allan namu, his words n wisdom is to another level compared to rest of journalists

[@ecarolyne5287]

💥💯 This was brilliant talk... Family called Kenya speaking it as it is , honest look at ourself (Kenya) .

[@wanjira9083]

I'm watching this after the Gen-Z uprising, are you guys prophets? You predicted this soo accurately!!

[@alexanderingoshe3151]

yeah, they must have seen the signs of the times

[@enterpreneur9738]

The last King of Kamwarer and Arror. Now showing at a theater near you. Executive Producer Sugoi Brankenheimer. Wadrobe by Weston. A Processional Way Production.

[@michael_saleh]

June Ruto. This happened when she was working at the embassy in Italy. When she was in Poland, there was the illegal gun importation scandal that involved the then dp and Echesa, leaving a sergeant kenei dead. Then there was the money laundering scandal that involved 'a very senior Kenyan politician's as then reported, and some Nigerians, whose office was in 680 building then owned by the dp but sold this year to maanzoni lodge. June Ruto is married to a Nigerian.

[@flochege946]

What about pandora offshore account bbi billions, huduma number. And many more during handcheque or their is where you draw the line.

[@enterpreneur9738]

@@flochege946 dream on

[@SamuelGumathi]

I am from Marsabit, CT, Latiff and Ndu, John Allan Namu is talking about a road to my place. Prove me wrong.

[@moses1990abl]

This makes Me Believe the one and only One Mr. Jimmy Wanjiji is right with His well tutored Budgetting lessons did In spice FM studios

[@stanleywaita]

You need to read and know about Jimmy wanjigi to believe his so called debt expose

[@kimzy721]

The political class is out of touch with the hardship Kenyans are facing.

[@louisrudasingwa3367]

I listen in most mornings, thank you very much for being informative and analytical. 🇷🇼

[@StreamAlive]

We need to amp such conversations. Accountability is key for posterity.

[@munyanya2006]

Then what?

[@shakeesangwenya4927]

@@munyanya2006 Then someone who needs to hear may hear and act accordingly.

[@thesoundofsilence1763]

I have a great feeling that Uhuru can give great direction on this issue of debt mismanagement because he was the signatory to most of those debts. I hear he is a $$$ billionaire with a lot of accounts in Europe. For some reason, we pretend not to notice this.

[@catherineikovwa3401]

Uhuru Ruto government destroyed kenya Ruto should also share the blame he looted Eurobond with Rotich dont forget that and when juma threatened to expose Ruto he killed him some loans Ruto made sure Uhuru was drunk to sign those loans so people should just give Uhuru abreak he warned you people but you wanted hustler Ruto stole so much money when he was with uhuru and thats the money he used to become president and he is now trying to change consitution and our Parlament will do nothing even our Court Ruto is in control no one can stop him

[@denismigayi8513]

Ruto is the next dollar billionaire

[@catherineikovwa3401]

@@denismigayi8513 do you know Charles Taylor how wealth he was where is he nothing is permanent in this World one day Ruto will humble and im sure God will purnish him for the innocent Blood of kenyans

[@LikizoB]

Yes, the Kenyattas are the genesis of all our problems

[@carolmbithe8539]

We are stuck eloquently in our tribes 😂😂😂

[@eagleowl1246]

John Allan a man after my own heart. He has worked hard to be a national conscience.

[@Engineer_Ian]

Uhuru looted this country to the knees. We need Omtata to start suing them .Kibaki sold us in 2013 to two big cartels .I wish Rao could have refrained from handshake but Anyway Azimio wa not an option in 2022

[@johnosumba1980]

Uhuruto and most stealing was done by Ruto, the money he is using to bribe people around.

[@BS-kl9yf]

​​@@johnosumba1980correct. That is why Ruto is silent and I suspect Raila enjoyed part of it, or is silent to protect Uhuru. This excuse of Uhuru stole as if Ruto was not in government during 2015 Eurobond is being insincere.

[@thomasm5796]

And Ruto is not pursuing him.

[@catherineikovwa3401]

​@@BS-kl9yfRuto stole so much money for Project when he was with uhuru infact he was controler of Budget rotich was minister of finance before uhuru wake up to reality Ruto was so rich that uhuru couldnt do nothing because he bought everyone and uhuru remained alone

[@juliamongina6084]

Uhuruto government sabotaged the Kenyans economy kebenei Ruto benefited more and his kalenjin hooligans eg kplc docket,nhif, arror kamwarer dams money nhif ect etc Euro bonds arms scam nys can etc etc etc etc etc etc etc 😂😂😂those were kalenjins😢😢😂😂rotich, chelgui,keter Charles, tum,

[@LikizoB]

Love listening to Allan. Looking forward to the documentary

[@ronaldngure]

This is such a good conversation. Perhaps you should bring Dr Abraham Rugo and John Allan Namu and have this conversation

[@Okanto15]

I've come here during the #RejectFinanceBill2024 movement time to understand more. The whole conversation wqs very indicative and prophetic of a "tipping point". Eric captured it accurately as "we are heading there". This debt issue alone is enough to lead demonstration everyday of this government until full accountability of our debt situation is realised. Good Job to SpiceFM for the educational and enlightening shows.

[@brendachuru-wn1ey]

Allan, Thanx for revealing the silent wanjiku sentiments❤

[@mwalimumati]

The clever scammers changed the law and inter alia the definition of the Consolidated Fund from this ""National Exchequer Account" means the National Exchequer Account referred to in section 17;" to this ""National Exchequer Account" means the National Exchequer Account or Accounts referred to in section 17;" Then they started purporting to maintain loan receipts in the the Consolidated Fund abroad. They even created a new form of public investment called the "Government Linked Corporation" - Well done John Alan for moving this investigation forward.

[@trendylatestupdates]

great show

[@edwardonyaoking8173]

Only Revolution will save kenya. Poorer and hungry kenya wata kuwa thuggish and gangsterish to revolutionize Kenya yote. Through pain agony and suffering kenya will be renewed spiritually

[@anthonyinyanya213]

True

[@christhairu2226]

Keeping tell my friends this a revolution is the way for kenya to get true leadership

[@gladysopinya4879]

We lack the honesty and integrity of the whole of us as a nation. We have become selfish and not patriotic.

[@triggabun]

I said that years ago. Their is a moral deficit in Kenya and Africa as a whole. Majority of the people will not do the right thing even on the smallest of things. The cycle will never end if ordinary people continue to be crooks. It doesn't start from the top. It starts from the majority at the bottom. There is no way you could have a crooked top if they don't have a foundation of crooked people propping them up.

[@beloved6063]

The heart is the most deceitful thing there is and desperately wicked... Evil is thriving now in Kenya and in the world. These politicians cannot agree to be exposed. They don't have the morals, integrity, or even the awareness that they are rotten to the core to sit together and sincerely solve the current financial problems in Kenya. The only thing left is for genuine Christians to pray for the nation of Kenya, and those who are doing right continue doing right.

[@charlesnyagah7423]

When Uhuruto were in the Hague, that was the opportunity to leave them there, instead we voted them in, thus we deserve the scorpions inflicted on us.

[@alphaxardkimoto3644]

Who was the alternative. We have selected to always have career politicians who have no skills in any trade or profession.

[@charlesnyagah7423]

okiya omtatah

[@Ordinary8030]

We called it self determination. Now the same have cooked us

[@miriamojwang9881]

@@alphaxardkimoto3644 Have some faith. This is a country of millions of people.

[@bickenbackbeinbool771]

@@miriamojwang9881 millions of people who are puppets on strings

[@thesoundofsilence1763]

Why is it so difficult to pinpoint who stole and therefore get any assets that we can sell off to pay some of the debt as Jimmy Wanjigi suggests? there must be a cartel that was behind this and is not too hard to identify through a serious investigation. We did not all assist this crime as Namu suggests.

[@anthonyinyanya213]

Let's wait for Namu's exposé. I pray that God may guard him maximumly. Let him put everything openly. Mine is a prayer for his safety coz those involved already have heard him

[@bickenbackbeinbool771]

@@anthonyinyanya213 hii nayo hatatoboa, they'll get to him

[@josegathage81]

​@@bickenbackbeinbool771This the best investigative journalist we have in Kenya, he probably has the story in those media houses by the time he is hyping his works.He is smart.

[@adameve6623]

I think it's because top officials in this current government were also in it so there is no way they can confront it.

[@victorkinyanjui7153]

Why do people fear saying uhuru took our money?

[@mutukuboniface3463]

Also heard there is a debt taken to build for fertiliser making in Dagoretti in 1974 bado tunalipia eish bana

[@bmathesh]

Must be Kenol- marua road.

[@uniquecritical7628]

How can we hold them accountable? Do we have laws, is our judicial system capable and ready 🤔

[@georgepresley5120]

No

[@pepe2000ful]

Max respect to you my good sir !! Phenomenal journalism

[@aotury1]

So many exposé done on Kenya debt situation but no name is ever mentioned, no one ever put to task. Certainly Kenya must sink first before culpable names rise up like bubbles from the bottom of the ocean

[@stanleywaita]

Because they are monetary attached exposé' and only come to light after someone is short-changed

[@felixmumbo340]

Allan Nyamu needs security until all episodes are released. Awuoro Kenya!!!!

[@danbarack6143]

We need to hold all this people who have done so much harm to this country accountable. If not, things are going to only get worse.

[@PeterKanyoni]

In 1987, Thomas Sankara urged all African leaders not to pay the debt and to unite on that front. He also warned that if they do not join him he will not attend the next OAU conference. He was killed that same year.

[@IfireKe]

"Nyi mumetufanyia vibaya but ni sawa tu!" "Nyi ndio mna nguvu, heri amani!" We have to fully appreciate that Kenya is for all Kenyans, not who is in government at the time and everything we do even being quiet about it hurts every other Kenyan in one way or the other, we are all to blame and its time to change this narrative, we must change as Kenyans first. We are the Sovereign! Even if you voted for the current government sahi kila mwananchi ni Opposition, we have to ask Questions and hold the leaders accountable for the better of us all not just the government and their financiers!

[@Ordinary8030]

Someone tell me about any country in Africa that ever developed from IMF loans. Why are we sitting as we are lied to that we have to borrow more to get better? Which country again develop by seelling its workforce outside? All what we have heard of late is how Kenyans are going to this and this country to offer skilled services. How gullible have we become simply because we align ourselves to tribes and stupid politcal ideology. IMF is a thief for the US to bring African countries to their knees so that they will be too desperate to refuse their orders

[@georgepresley5120]

IMF policies are for keeping developing countries poor and indebted. On immigration funny enough politicians encourage it. They never see it as brain drain..they see it as hustling

[@pepe2000ful]

Leaders must confess 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, and this is why we will always fall short. The statement should be, when are we going to ARREST and RECOVER the stolen loot?? Period. Let’s stop the bull crap. Talk is cheap people!!

[@miriamojwang9881]

😓😓😓 I have never heard of a single case in KE where stolen money was recovered. The thieving culture is so entrenched.

[@mpaleo]

Imagine and this fool is suggesting forgiveness for the thieving elites

[@muchemikimani5318]

Stole together and are now engaging you in vuta nikuvute in the streets to distract you from the areas they are co-operating in. Hegelian Dialectics.

[@georgepresley5120]

RECOVER..?hahaha maybe we talk about you FORGET the loot. Stolen money can and will never be recovered in Kenya. Today we have the high priest of graft as the supreme leader. No hope

[@charlesnyaberi5059]

Thanks that’s great analysis talk about Kenya economically leadership savage ravaged country economically etc

[@teddywamunyu218]

My goodness, i need to watch this later. This is rich and revealing. Thanks to KZbin.

[@sieundanyandika]

Allan, you did your job. You did it well. Now, leave it to Kenyans to find what to do with it. Trying to suggest a way forward may dampen your good job.

[@stove7197]

Allan is a Kenyan too and entitled to his opinion/suggestions just like the other Kenyans you ask him to "leave it to," that said, I vehemently disagree with his suggestion, that's rubbish. Eric is right, not all Kenyans stole and/or "played a part" in it, so it's nonsense to just forget about that and move on...how about the thieves return all the money first even as they ask for and Kenyans consider forgiveness for them??

[@likatalikata3823]

If you must know, there is a new gothic cathedral in Ichaweri. Right at the gate of the big house...we built a small cathedral like Ghana but outside public limelight.

[@Kittygacha_playz]

You have no clue where ichaweri is, even if it came and bit your buttocks😂😂😂

[@hannahlee3688]

What am enlightening conversation .thank you. Well done.❤

[@uniquecritical7628]

Bravo 👏 👏 👏 👏

[@shirleymaina1663]

You do a superb job you are a journalist that unferstanda their calling very well.

[@johnmwaura9880]

Unfortunately we glorify our corrupt tribal leaders

[@azariah-theroof]

Skillful youth

[@kennedymuli5774]

It's evident that we are not heading in a good direction as a nation partially because of our leaders but majorly because we as the ones who voted them in have chosen to entertain them despite their mediocrity. Even though we are their 'poor boss' we still have the final say.

[@gracenjoki9314]

Watching this after Gen z demos seems to make so much sense we need accountability and this political class is hell bent on taking turns eating and not interested in Kenya and the people.

[@scarletsimpson4807]

The problem lies with these politicians especially the top ones. These men wanajuana what happens. They know loans zikichukuliwa where they go. Waache kutudanganya. Why is ruto not setting up a body to investigate the loans we are supposed to pay? who were the beneficiaries? Did the loans do what they were supposed to do? Watu are occupied na the narrative ya high cost of lving but hawaaambiwi the cause of the high cost of living created by uhuru, raila and ruto and their close allies. Raila isnt fighting for better lives of wanhjiku. Has raila ever lobbied for revivial of nyanza sugar factories? why? if youths are employed, he has no one to control ama kuita maandamano. What has raila offered the nyanza people other than maandamano. raila and azimio politicians will still pocket allowances and their salaries. mjinga wa kurusha mawe will go home alale njaa tu. ruto too is not a messiah. can azimio share their points on how to lower cost of living?. Kenyas problem in one picture including ruto

[@johnosumba1980]

And you believe Ruto? Raila has been filing taxes every year, common sense should inform you that he can’t be filing taxes if he is not paying it.

[@elphaswefwafwa1815]

My friend we are dying please don't say Uhuru Amanda sijui baba we are dying we can't aford😢 anything more

[@BS-kl9yf]

It is the naive citizens like you who cheer this nonsense. Euro bond was taken by Uhuru and Ruto with Rotich as CS. They both stole and Ruto is not addressing these questions because he is part of it explaining his 5m every weekend donations during campaigns.

[@victorondicho4042]

​@@elphaswefwafwa1815if baba calls off the demonstrations, you will not see anyone on the streets while the food prices will still be high

[@scarletsimpson4807]

@@BS-kl9yf ruto too is not a messiah.Watu are occupied na the narrative ya high cost of lving but hawaaambiwi the cause of the high cost of living created by uhuru, raila and ruto and their close allies. hope you saw that statement

[@JoeKiboi]

It now looks like the Iran head of state visit was not about development but an advice on how to deal with Maandamanos.

[@kibetchirchir]

That parting shot, man, it summarises so well. I am inspired.

[@alexanderingoshe3151]

Less than a year later it's vice versa, the political class now begging for dialogue... how things change.

[@raphaelkiige7930]

Nice piece.....big up Spice team and JAN👌👌

[@samuelmajiwa3238]

thank you very much for this so informative discussions, keep it up.

[@HellenofTroy897]

Azimio leaders would've provided the BEGINNINGS of the kind of leadership Kenya craves. Not perfect, but a beginning. Raila, Martha Karua, Matiangi, Munya etc are individuals with clear visions for the country and track records that give ample levels of confidence.

[@jullietmburu9672]

With Martha's exception, they've all been in govt in one wat or another. A leopard will never have stripes. Lets vote for new names and judge their track records of competency.

[@HellenofTroy897]

@@jullietmburu9672Previous experience in govt is actually a requirement. Matiangi, Munya, Sifuna and a few others have track records of above average performance and can be entrusted with resources. Raila provides political leadership and Martha provides the checks and balances on him. The fact that Raila chose her speaks volumes about his character. This is why we respect him.

[@mashnjo8271]

Wewe bangi ndio mingi

[@jseverene4789]

Allan Namu apewe mbili on my bill for doing his part, we are waiting for that episode to drop so bad that 3 weeks feels like we shall be done with and unable to get to it properly and pointing out the ones involved. Get to finish the 5th part you have said that entails up to the part our president is elected, i feel like there is a part that also needs to be looked into.

[@violetwanjiku7937]

I think we need to have a public debate in nyayo stadium. Kila mtu, where is the money, starting from Kamau thugge who was there when all this was going on and is now in CBK

[@afrakanaswahilitv5520]

Mdahalo kama huo ndio chanzo cha msingi wa kufichua mahali tulianzia kwenda kombo na kwa hivyo itatupa jukwaa la kujitathmini na kuboresha mustakabali wetu wa pamoja. Changamoto lukuki ambazo wakenya wanapitia zimetokana na sera na mikakati mibovu kutoka kwa shirika la fedha la dunia-IMF na benki ya dunia. Lazima tukumbatie yale Hayati Magufuli alikuwa anatekeleza katika jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania bila kuwashiriki mabepari wa Uropa magharibi na serikali ya madola ya majimbo ya Amerika.

[@alexnjuguna5942]

From what am hearing from today’s discussions! I am convinced to conclude that, we are being scammed right left, up and down and even centre!!! Hakuna haja ya National Assembly or senate, parliament at large is …… Anyway kitaturamba juu tuko alone

[@miriamojwang9881]

We are not alone if we, the ordinary wananchi, decide not to be divided along tribal lines. Lets get these greedy folk out of our way. The whole lot of them! At the moment, we are just exercising a rotation of shameless eaters in government (senior and junior eaters). We should stop calling them waheshimiwa. A truly shameless lot!

[@mlw237]

We finally reached the point Ndu was describing. #RUTOMUSTGO‼️

[@pauldiaz8335]

Whenever a Kenyan starts a sentence “with me let me tell you “ jua nikubaya

[@iamfelixodhiambo]

A very sober conversation. I hope it isn't just consumed and deposited to trash cans by Kenyans.

[@jamaal1300]

John Alan Namu ❤

[@naz7759]

Which road is this at minute 13:00 onwards?

[@kimjw001]

kenol isiolo dual carriageway

[@davidmuchoki1489]

Kenol-Marua dual carriage which is the first phase of the project. The whole road should run from Kenol to Isiolo a total of 219 km.

[@bensonkinoti4779]

Kenol-Marua road

[@georgemayo7383]

The system is in a deep mess and needs to be cleaned.

[@Essykimz_1]

Have a lot of greedy people in high positions and politicians who are just into ballooning their bank accts. I was born in Kenya but it saddens me to see it in this capacity in 2023.

[@georgemayo7383]

Very well analysed.

[@milanzawadi]

I feel bad and angered that a certain road was financed twice na ata haijamalizwa na najua c hio tu alafu tunalipia kitu hatujui. People will make things happen, the moment tutaacha siasa za kikabila la sivyo bado kitaturamba hadi tarumbeta ilie

[@BenRambaa]

No wonder little Rwanda with a budget of only ksh 700 billion does so much. Namu, Wanjigi, Omtatah you deserve the Kenyan Nobel prize. However, l completely disagree with the call to live and let live in the debt misappropriation manenos. I would go for the Rawlings (a.k.a Ethiopian) solution.

[@georgemayo7383]

Human beings can have faults. In Kenya true we are almost on rock bottom and one day we shall rise up, as we reform ourselves.

[@georgepresley5120]

I pray that we remain rock bottom for long enough to shake off stupidity from people's heads

[@mashnjo8271]

Could it be possible even mau mau roads construction funding have been borrowed twice and money ended up in corrupt individuals. 😢

[@motemungai3737]

A very honest discussion 😢

[@daviddavis7959]

These are issues Kenyans need to be protesting about. Ruto and Raila benefit from the same system. We need systems of checks that can be whislteblowers and the public to be educated

[@notsriricjuma4646]

The greatest huddle is educating the common mwanainchi. Politicians thrive on our ignorance as they wheep our tribal emotions and divide us so we do not see through the veil.

[@jayo7812]

​@@notsriricjuma4646Just had this conversation with someone about how unfortunately as a nation, at least 50% of us are very ignorant. And it goes beyond being academically educated. I have heard whole Kenyan professors say the most confounded BS that sounds like a fool from the village. And I've also heard a village man speak rationally. But ignorance is our bane and I honestly don't know how we will deal with it. It is ignorance born out of lack of education, tribalism, close-mindedness and religious fanaticism.

[@mlw237]

"...which pot is going to call the kettle black?" wuuuehh!!

[@Thepotterschurch]

Are you brothers? I admire your voice❤

[@FidelisAkello-b1j]

R u kidding me when i was young i used to like him alot him and Mark maasai i mean as reporters and its been long i saw him wow u two not forgeting peninah marube karibe cant rem her name well they used to be on Ntv i wanted to become a journalist bcoz of u guys u used to inspire me alot and u still do bcoz u guys are just good at what u do continue with your good work.am suprised to see him coz nimekua Ug for the longest time

[@chikaabtwn2244]

Journalists have let us down, they never followed up on these stories 😢

[@uniquecritical7628]

We now understand why Raila was quite during Uhuru's presidency. He was benefiting from the money scheme and now that Ruto is changing the narrative, Uhuru and Raila are financing the demonstrations 🤔

[@michael_saleh]

What narrative is Ruto changing? He's just raised the debt ceiling to borrow more. With no subsidies on unga, fuel, no helb loans, diminishing NHIF, no money for retired teachers, no kazi mtaani remittances but higher taxation and more borrowing, where is he taking the money to??? Eurobond happened at a time when Ruto said he was in control. Can he account for it?

[@topclasswriters7997]

If you are following the conversation you'll get to realise that , he ruto himself changed the rules of the game, a good example is that at the moment they can borrow money for a project, it doesn't hit the consolidated account, pay the contractor directly, don't you see this a proper scheme of siphoning money? The uhuruto regime completely messed us big time, and these politicians have mastered the game very well, play victim and win our sympathy, none including Rao is saint because at the moment, him Raila is all over because he isn't benefiting on these proceeds in any way, on the other end those on table are vehemently hard on him, it's us wananchi in between are being used as tools and being crashed.

[@jullietmburu9672]

@@topclasswriters7997 true. Even in 2010-2011 during the maize and gas scandals, Raila blew the whistle on Ruto's "eating maize" while he was busy benefitting from the gas scandal (when he was in Energy ministry) No demon is better than a fellow demon

[@irarimugo5110]

I have come to realize reasons why people over throw their government and a country ravages in endless civil war

[@stanleywaita]

Only to realise that they were lied into overthrowing because they don't interrogate the information being shared and for what and whose benefit

[@lazarouschewe3535]

We had a similar scenario here in Zambia, the previous government wanted to borrow US$4BN to built 350km dual carnage road the same government without shame went to IMF to borrow US$1.5 but IMF was not as dumb as our leaders hence the noise calling musungu as '' imperialism '' yet our leaders at play

[@johnkuma6867]

This is true patriot who loves and knows whats ailling kenya and how it can be fixed. Not like the characters you find in ruto and company where its all about them and them alone

[@purityfrancis813]

Can we have Allan and Kebaso on the same platform?

[@mbolonzi101]

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