NuPEA’s Nuclear Plans Are ‘One Blunder After Another' - Phyllis Omido

[@CS-wn5lv]

There are over 440 nuclear power reactors in operation around the world. Two have had issues in the past 60 years or more. The probability of an accident is less than 1%. it is a minor risk. It is like saying air travel is unsafe because accidents do occur once in a while and they are usually fatal

[@kabuthakabutha9472]

@@CS-wn5lv the disadvantages are more than than your point. Which I agree is "valid". I can bet if we the sovereign go the referendum way, majority will not allow this.

[@georgeooko3716]

​@@kabuthakabutha9472The rejection of building a nuclear power plant will be more out of 'accept God otherwise you'll land in great fire in Hell' kind of thing than from real an informed basis. Close to belief in bottom up economic approach.

[@Evolve_KE]

@CS-wn5lv Pedestrian walking accidents are fatal in Kenya, according to NTSA.

[@georgeooko3716]

@@kabuthakabutha9472 Hope you followed up by listening to the subsequent interview held by Spice team with one of the Directors at NuPEA. If so, what did you make of the two interviews? Nothing good on earth comes without risks. By the way, how often do you take stairs to the 6th or 15th floor of a building which has a lift because you fear the lift may collapse with you inside?

[@Evolve_KE]

A while back while in college, I had the idea to start a website that described the life achievements of Kenyan Hero's and Shero's. This lady was my inspiration🎉.

[@barnieorlando1380]

We are not ready

[@CS-wn5lv]

For example, South Africa has a population of 64 million people with a peak demand of power at 38, 897 MW. South Korea with a population of 51 million people has a maximum power demand at 92, 990 MW while Kenya with a population of 56 million people has a maximum power demand at 2,228 MW. South Korea has 26 nuclear reactor units in operation. And that's what separates industrialised countries from exporter-of-raw-materials countries

[@kabuthakabutha9472]

Your right on that, but what about the price tag on it?! It's very expensive 500billion minus constructing an all new power grid at another cost of 500B. Totaling to 1 trillion ksh

[@kabuthakabutha9472]

Has Kenya initiated any new industry that has spur demand of electricity??

[@CS-wn5lv]

@@kabuthakabutha9472 Yes, cost is a valid point. I only limited myself to power demand and consumption. I am not competent enough to understand the internal dynamics of the country at the moment

[@kabuthakabutha9472]

@@CS-wn5lv if we as the sovereign agree to this, just be assured that the cost of power will go up again.... Coz of the current IPP. (Independent power producers) Are charging us power bills in dollars, what about this nuclear generation??! 😔😔

[@Kag2025]

​@@kabuthakabutha9472 you are very misinformed, 1 trillion for what? Nuclear is the cheapest energy per cost, reliable and long term! Nuclear is the only way if Kenya is to be industrious. Just so you know you dnt build industries then look for power? Power comes 1st!.. SMR's are short term as we build Nuclear capabilities, yes it costs 500B but connecting it to the grid is not 500B, neither are we paying upfront as the module owner will set up the facility at thier own cost that we will pay for decades by buying the power!.

[@mimibusarachibu]

Bwana you now have to invite some of us to say on such matters,we have a lot about nuclear module that Kenyans need to know

[@romanus9700]

This is my favourite environmental activist in Africa

[@lamnot.]

12:10 Does CJGEA have the technical capacity to evaluate any study on nuclear siting, scope or development. If so, do they have alternative options or recommendations?

[@keshK7112]

I've studied about nuclear energy and I completely support CT and Eric. The nuclear energy sector is highly safe-guarded. In fact the radiation exposure from a reactor is very minimal compared to natural radiation from the sun. There are international standards/policies for every country that is exploring in nuclear. With the installation of a nuclear plant, imagine how many opportunities Kenyans will have; engineering, research especially in nuclear waste immobilisation, and many more technical jobs. I say it is a blessing cause we are capable of managing it.

[@barnieorlando1380]

the question is how prepared are we incase of an emergency. The processes require no short cuts. Given the countries history security and safety is always an after thought

[@agarjakendu]

@@barnieorlando1380 like what emergency?

[@keshK7112]

Safety and security is a common worry that majority of manufacturers face every day, same with the nuclear industry. If the facility has been approved to international standards from the IAEA (that includes infrastructure, waste immobilisation and safety regulation/emergency response), all these aspects are taken into consideration during start-up. This would also expand NuPEA as a regulatory authority to track and record every incident/response that is communicated to the public.

[@1andeyo]

Nuclear energy is not labour's intensive industry. For every one nuclear scientists or radiologist, thousands of hotels, resorts, and other tourist related industry will lose their jobs. farmers' land will be considered contaminated. You talking of high safety standard in nuclear industry. It is there in German or china's because they have a safety culture that Kenya does not.

[@1andeyo]

​@agarjakendu stupid question, we are talking radioactive. If we cannot handle garbage in our cities how can we handle nuclear waste

[@georgeooko3716]

Ms. Omido is right to follow up on lead and nuclear power plant project. Not all people can focus everywhere. However, it shouldn't be to stop Nuclear Power at all costs but, if installed, it must be safe to the environment and all. By the way, what's the flouted unit cost per kwh from nuclear energy? Its laughable hearing Ms. Omido allege that power lines will have to be overhauled. Latiff didn't want to push it in as much as he picked out her ignorance on that point. A time comes when we learn. She did.

[@allansumbeiywo6763]

Kenya as a country, we are geographically favored by the Rift valley where we can get the Geothermal energy as our baseload solution. We shouldn't waste our resources on Nuclear energy, its a fact nuclear wastes are becoming headaches even to the developed countries. The wastes lasts over 1000 years without degrading. The only time we need nuclear is just for hospital use and agriculture uses, and that on a very small scale. The relevant authorities should focus on other Energy sources, Kenya isn't ready even for the next 20 years. NUCLEAR IS NEVER A SOLUTION.

[@JoeMwangi]

Some misconception on that. And what happens after 1000 years. It does decay with time, but needs to be disposed in conditions that require minimal human intervention. Studies have been done and countries such as Finland, Sweden, Canada lead the way (based on conditions similar to the first and only natural reactor ever discovered in Gabon). In Kenya, specific regions favour such conditions. And limiting nuclear energy in the country opposes opportunities it present. At this rate, I suspect in future Kenya will be importing radioisotopes from our neighbouring country such Rwanda, Ethiopia for medical application & other application because we had this backward mindset that we can't implement the technology in the country.

[@kmbayo2009]

Activlst is clueless

[@jibuss55]

Agree on need to look to Geothermal.Nuclear is a solution but unlikely to be our best.The idea is to have cost effective solutions.Aslo to maximise local content

[@georgemayo5623]

🇰🇪 Kenya should not be a place to damp nuclear waste, from some global north countries.

[@JayTwenty]

Stop jokes, we would be very incapable of handling nuclear waste, in moi's regime nuclear waste was damped in marsabit & up to date that area is still affected and is affecting Nairobi with rise in cancer cases, Chernobyl happened. nuclear is very risky. We would rather look into developing Hydrogen Power Plants, Wave & Tidal energy from the ocean, geothermal, wind, hydropower, solar, Lightning energy. There are more better ways than nuclear, other safer energies just need more investment to be fully realized.

[@keshK7112]

With all the options highlighted, the energy output from the alternatives is less compared to nuclear. The fact is energy demand is increasing, and if we need more solar panels/ wind power that means larger pieces of land. If we need wave energy we would rely on tides which are not big in Kenyan oceans. Hydrogen is potential, though we would still need more energy from the grid and large amounts of natural resources (water, if doing electrolysis) to produce it.

[@JayTwenty]

@@keshK7112 I'm seeing Hydrogen surpassing Nuclear, if more investing can go into it, it can be made more efficient, check out what Siemens Energy is doing

[@JayTwenty]

@@keshK7112 @keshK7112 I'm seeing Hydrogen surpassing Nuclear, if more investing can go into it, it can be made more efficient, check out what Siemens Energy is doing

[@JayTwenty]

@@keshK7112 I'm seeing Hydrogen surpassing Nuclear, if more investing can go into it, it can be made more efficient, check out what Siemens Energy is doing...

[@JayTwenty]

​​@@keshK7112 I'm seeing Hydrogen surpassing Nuclear, if more investing can go into it, it can be made more efficient, check out what Siemens Energy is doing

[@Gachango-mr2xq]

👏👏👏this lady is very right when it comes to feasibility study. You cannot construct a nuclear reactor close to population & economically viable areas like where they’re planning to put up because they gonna mess up our wildlife biodiversity & fisheries that people rely on.Nuclear energy is not bad since it’s clean energy but we need a feasibility study as to where to build & also disposal of the waste.During the rogue moi regime, he allowed nuclear waste to be barried in north Eastern & ngorongoro crater for money , greed which resulted in spikes in cancerous diseases.

[@JoeMwangi]

Most nuclear power plants create economic viability industries to where they are constructed. Look at S. Korea where most world phones are manufactured, Japan steel industries, etc. Furthermore, if you look not far, in Africa, Koberg nuclear power plant is located in a nature reserve. Actually, most people knowledgeable about nuclear tend to favour nuclear being built to protect nature reserves around the site. Eastern & Ngorongoro waste, is not nuclear waste.

[@georgemayo5623]

The Unesco site should not be damaged or tampered with, the mangrove trees is part of kenya's biodiversity and beauty of the coastal region.

[@yayo_mfalme]

**Yes, both nuclear power and hydroelectric power are typically connected to the same electrical grid for transmission.** Once the electricity is generated, it is converted to the same alternating current (AC) format and fed into the grid. This allows for the seamless integration of various power sources, including fossil fuels, renewable energy, and nuclear power. The grid then distributes the electricity to homes, businesses, and industries. This interconnected system ensures a reliable and efficient supply of electricity to consumers.

[@yayo_mfalme]

**The safety of a nuclear power plant in a UNESCO World Heritage Zone is a complex issue that requires careful consideration of various factors.** While nuclear power plants can be operated safely, there are potential risks such as accidents, waste disposal, and long-term environmental impact. These risks need to be carefully assessed and mitigated to ensure the protection of the cultural and natural heritage of the UNESCO zone. **Key considerations include:** * **Safety measures:** Strict safety protocols and advanced technology are essential to minimize the risk of accidents. * **Environmental impact:** The potential impact on air and water quality, as well as long-term radioactive waste disposal, must be carefully evaluated. * **Cultural heritage:** The plant's design and operation should be compatible with the cultural and historical significance of the UNESCO zone. * **Emergency response:** A robust emergency response plan should be in place to handle potential accidents and minimize their impact. **Ultimately, the decision to build a nuclear power plant in a UNESCO zone should be based on a thorough risk assessment and a careful balancing of the potential benefits and risks.**

[@jibuss55]

The emphasis should be on cost performance and maximising local content.

[@JayTwenty]

You could read an article from Reuters (US renewables electricity output overtaking nuclear) instead of emotional activism. I follow the money and make logical decisions, as I said earlier it is just a matter of time we will see alternative energies surpassing nuclear capacity in our generation. As more and more intelligent investors pump money here, we are looking at a brighter and safer future for Mama Earth. Nuclear is a liability not an asset.

[@isaiahabiero1363]

I don't support establishment of nuclear plant anywhere in Kenya, main reason is waste disposal, and its toxicity to the environment.

[@remnant.watchman]

We should have built nuclear power plants like yesterday. We have been hearing about government plans for nuclear plants for too long. Just my opinion.

[@lugaritzbrown2250]

Where is Ndu

[@CS-wn5lv]

It is interesting that Kenya is consulting European countries on construction of such critical infrastructure. The eame European countries that have been discouraging other countries from constructing nuclear and coal power plants while at the same time they themselves are building more of such coal and nuclear power plants in 2024

[@owenabongo2675]

Knowledge is shared to scale up adoption rate

[@miltononyango]

water ...lake turkana or malindi,,,nuclear would be tricky ...more so now that the economy is not good

[@1andeyo]

Eric argument of we need to take the risk of testing new technologies and comparing testing solar batteries to testing small nuclear plants is missing something. With batteries, you are dealing with disasters of lithium, but with nuclear it is radioactive. material. We cannot afford nuclear disaster. A country that cannot dea with Nairobi river flood.

[@JoeMwangi]

And you think that is never put in consideration during the design, sighting, construction and operation. Have you ever wondered why nuclear power plants are never damaged by hurricanes and tornadoes?

[@agarjakendu]

@@JoeMwangi actually... is it new technology ama ni old technology? I saw the guest say that nuclear is very old very archaic yet she has a concern of "these new ones" leaking more than the others. It is an outright clown show at this point.

[@1andeyo]

@@JoeMwangi maybe you were not born in1992 when the Turkey nuclear plant in Florida was damaged by Hurricane Andrew or the Edwin plant in Georgia that was damaged by Hurricane Helene, Duane in Ohio by strong wind,, there is another plant in Alabama that was damaged by tornadoes. Yes, nuclear plants are designed to withstand extreme weather, but we had some that have been damaged. Note that the weather is getting more extreme curtesy of globe warming. The std used to design tears back may not be up to the current and future extreme westher.

[@JoeMwangi]

@@1andeyo the good thing is that we can access these information in public. None of the nuclear power plants safety systems were damaged. All records show only the offsite power, non safety systems were damaged. Core reactor remained intact, primary cooling systems remained unharmed and no radiation releases were experienced. It's because they are designed to ensure such scenarios are accounted for in the safety design. Also, the containment can withstand impact of any debris including a direct hit by a missile or an aeroplane.

[@1andeyo]

@JoeMwangi You said they cannot be damaged, now you are saying whst was and what was not damaged

[@CS-wn5lv]

Meanwhile, NGOs have been doing the same in Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Thailand and other south Asian countries where they oppose even the construction of roads, piped water, electricity lines. At the same time, the NGO workers are comfortably driving their 4X4s on dusty roads while encouraging locals to embrace poverty. I may not be conversant with the approach the Kenyan government is using to build energy the infrastructure

[@JoeMwangi]

She's well-funded. She should say how much funding she gets to travel abroad.

[@kabuthakabutha9472]

If you're not conversant with the topic, then just take time to learn about nuclear energy.

[@kabuthakabutha9472]

​@@JoeMwangi Sasa what if you know her funding model what will you do about it?? Put your points in a constructive criticism of the project or endorse it.

[@CS-wn5lv]

@@kabuthakabutha9472 I am conversant with the nuclear energy, and energy production/consumption in general. I am not conversant with Kenyan politics/budgeting/project costing and such

[@JoeMwangi]

@@kabuthakabutha9472 check my other comments. Didn't put much effort to this one honestly. But isn't it obvious I meant there is an international interference on our decisions by countries that have already adopted the technology? And someone is being paid to push that agenda.

[@IzzoForex]

Nuclear is one of the safest energy sources. You cant make 2024 decisions using 1985 accidents like Chenoble. 2020s nuclear tech is 1000% more safe than the 90s ones. Kuna mauongo kadhaa amesema ati if there is a transmission problem it will be more than a blackout it will be a catastrophe tutakufaa sijui oh sijui oh. These activists sometimes lie a lot.

[@owenabongo2675]

For national strategic interest we must adopt nuclear energy

[@lugaritzbrown2250]

Which are those strategic interests?

[@bosirekenyatta1248]

We have plenty of Geothermal, hydro, wind and sun which most western countries do not have why dont we develop this cheap nature available sources be4 we enrich some country to take over our energy production. Its a short sited focus to enrich a few people at the expense of other Kenyans we have no capacity, No tech why cant we accept that this can be done in foreseeable future not now.

[@miltononyango]

Lets stick to our major strengths thus SOLAR and geothermal and hydro .....to set up a a simple power for a asingle factory you need about 50-70 panels collecting this power you can use it DIRECTLY ..THIS is CALLED DIRECT DRIVE POWER ... TO SET UP THIS YOU NEED APPROX 2-3M( including batteries and import directly Germany/china turkey /korea/usa ) ...this can be affordable for a start up factory tho local loans ...this can be applied on special economic zones all over the country , zero rate the panels for those importing panels in these special economic zones 5 of them for geothermal we can import the drill s from turkey / china then use the current personnel running the plants to drill /design these facilities for hydro tana river ,yala /baringo and others can be explored , lets do something we can afford am told there is a lot of coal in kitui and kamba land .this can also be explored

[@georgemayo5623]

Siku njema huonekana asubuhi.

[@dianaflora6156]

I get That Eric Tries to play devil's advocate in most conversations and bring out another perspective, but I think sometimes your stance should also come clear and your reason on stuff. This development is not for the benefit of the people of Kilifi but for the parties intreseted.

[@JayTwenty]

I'm seeing Hydrogen surpassing Nuclear, if more investing can go into it, it can be made more efficient & powerful, check out what Siemens Energy is doing...

[@JoeMwangi]

You'll be shocked how hydrogen production is energy intensive.

[@JayTwenty]

@@JoeMwangi talk with facts and not parroting, Siemens Energy would have gone the nuclear route, but they found a better way, go to their website and understand, they already have operational plants that are working, with more R&D and investment, Hydrogen will be the energy of the future. While @ it research Nikola Tesla. Don't be a slave to mediocrity and monopolies keeping humanity down, having an ethos of profit over everything even if people die along the way

[@JoeMwangi]

@@JayTwenty yeah, but you can't fight physics to produce high scale efficient hydrogen production using electrolysis. Best hydrogen is based on thermal chemical process. Why is china is constructing high temperature gas reactor to produce hydrogen at industrial scale level, Russia too?

[@1andeyo]

Great point

[@JayTwenty]

@@JoeMwangi Bro, we can tap into wireless electricity, nuclear is primitive archaic energy. Sasa you want us to go back to horses and carriages while we have V 16 engines. Let's use our brain cells on Alternatives. Africa can set the trend, we don't need to copy paste everything, esp. If its harmful to the environment and humans, we need the symbiotic relationship we have with trees, Co² for O², plus last time I checked Hydrogen is No. 1 on the periodic table, there is a reason for that. Since it is already operational, with the capacity it has now, I'd rather we test that one out and figure it our as we continue using it, with our health intact. With R&D, surely, it will become more efficient.

[@kiprotichsalat2460]

The guest lied endlessly from the start to the end of the interview

[@1andeyo]

Lied about what, you are being intellectually lazy to call someday a lier without substantial evidence to the contrary

[@JoeMwangi]

She's clueless. Actually, she's peddling lies. She has travelled to Europe and visited several nuclear power plants funded by foreign donors and she thinks she's an expert.

[@JoeMwangi]

@@1andeyo 26:49 ... German never closed its nuclear power plants because they were unsafe or because they were expensive. It was more of a political decision based on the antinuclear movement in politics since 1970s and excaberted by Fukushima disaster in 2011. It wasn't based on any technical assessment. It actually increased carbon emissions in Germany and became a net importer of electricity in Europe. Ukraine is a great example why the nuclear power plants haven't shown any issues due to war.

[@agarjakendu]

@@JoeMwangi lol... the lady said that SMRs "leak more than conventional nuclear plants" and this @1andeyo guy was like "yep, she has a point." Serious hoping these are not the type of people training the locals in Uyombo.

[@JoeMwangi]

@@agarjakendu Disappointing honestly. I wish they invite scientist and engineers (nuclear) in future. But the media is always shy to do that. We are here.