CNC Plasma Sign Build....You Just HAVE To Watch This One

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

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[@fireteamomega2343]

I actually just made a splash guard 😅 I was worried about water getting into the electronics as well. I have a shelf I made on the bottom of the table with some L channel and aluminum cutouts that holds my razorweld. Mainly because cords draped everywhere drive me insane and I already had to fab a new voltage divider cable because I caught it and snapped it off. Which I added an inline capacitor to level it out better and it works much better more stable voltage readings no random torch outs. To make the guard I just measured the distance of the torch mount bolts and height range of the z axis designed out from that. I ran a slot mount instead of a fixed mount to add a spring system to it. So when it touches off the guard it moves up and back down without binding up the torch height control. If you have a sheet metal bender that's perfect. If not you should definitely get one it's a solid investment and will get used once you have it... you'll get tons of new ideas trust me. I generally program a small v shaped notch along the edges where I'm going to bend the part for alignment and bend relief.

[@fireteamomega2343]

And actually if I had to redo the guard I would have designed it so the front portion was a separate cutout piece with a hinge so changing consumables would be easier. Which I still might do at some point

[@allenpannetta]

Your lady has no class nor do you 🤮wish it didn’t mix with the USA flag which has the class

[@kaylynndawson4480]

this looks so good! it’s actually for my dad and our family’s new business! I can’t wait for my dad to see this, and so thankful that Rich thought about doing this, it looks amazing. surprised my dad hasn’t noticed some of his tools are gone lol

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Wow thats awesome! I think hes going to like it. One of my favorites for sure.

[@kaylynndawson4480]

it looks amazing thank you! can’t wait for the shop to be done to put it in there!!

[@lennydawson3201]

Well I got my suprise today !!! Man this turned out amazing!! Good thing they didn't use any snap on wrenches hahahaha

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@lennydawson3201 glad you liked it buddy! Was a fun build.

[@Davy-w9e]

You got a killer deal on this one. It's a great singn i think you fater gonna love it. Nice!!

[@samuelgonnelli4367]

I can't get over how clean and organized the shop is 😮

[@JesseCoy-t7r]

Im a Sales rep and 100% that sign could easily sell for 3500.00 or more depending on the clientel

[@joemurray9131]

That is perfect!!! Great job!! Your wife did a great helping you!!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks Joe! Ya she did great

[@klcameron709]

The first build video I have watched. I would guess 1200ish. Your really creative. I like the finshes on it. Awesome job

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you!

[@richmiller2501]

WOW so kewl As i was watching you make this and thinking of your statement early on that you "gave him a deal" about $700. but you did give him a deal... Does it have to be shipped? and I loved the ending... you guys are fun..

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks Rich! No im bringing it up when we go see family.

[@OneEyeCustoms]

I love the way you add real tools!!! Perfect touch

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks Doug!

[@Outdoorsy368]

You have a knack for making your videos interesting and fun. You're talented as heck so keep up the good work

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I appreciate that! I try to keep them fun

[@nonyabidness5784]

Fantastic fun! You guys are great.

[@bobcote1375]

Another great video!! The Fusion 360 tips are great! The new water table is sweet. Oh and so is the Keystone Girl 😊

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks Bob!

[@danramos281]

Awesome video. Thanks for all the tips on Fusion 360. Especially for those of us starting out.

[@remital6834]

Another great one. Really enjoy your Fusion 360 / CNC videos. Really like you talking costs and such, it helps us get a better feel for what signs and other fabs go for. My completely uneducated guess, would have guessed $300-$600 for a sign like that. It'll be nice to learn what the fix is for your auto torch height Also, very nice "tool chest" lol

[@austinburtch5972]

I have to play with my spring back setting in the post processor to get my thc to start at the correct height. I check it with a .060 shim by starting the cut profile in fire control with the plasma cutter off, then go back and forth between fusion 360's post processor spring back setting and re-uploading the cut profile in fire control until I get it torch height set correctly. Usually only takes a couple of tries. Thanks for keeping the content entertaining for another Indiana boy!

[@justin51986]

quite the "tool chest" ya got there...

[@viewer92759]

Friggen love this guy ❤️💪

[@JoesCountryGarage]

Looks good I wonder if the stars area would be better if it had the rust like the Dawson's Auto Care and then alternate on the stripes but no matter what looks good

[@dereksellars]

Nice Job!! That came out Awesome!

[@JackInTheShop]

I have a Longmill CNC router. I converted it to hold and trigger a plasma torch. I do not have a THC yet. Still looking into installing one. Really would like to know what yo find out about yours.

[@joshuacaylor881]

Hey Kyle! Wanted to suggest tapping a T fitting and valve into your compressor line to run bubblers in your new water table. Also, you can use the positive air pressure routed to an RV water tank under your CNC machine. RV water tank is lower profile. Open air valve to water reservoir and it will push water up into your table.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks for the suggestions.

[@mnaseem33]

You guys are hilarious together! Very entreating!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you!

[@GuzzyMan]

Very Nice. It turned out great.

[@hamilde]

I was wondering if you had an Amazon link to one of those tool dispensers. One of those would be handy. 😊 (not for me, asking for a friend)

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Haha! Unfortunately i dont. Thats a one off dispenser.

[@44busted]

A thing of beauty Kyle. The sign is too! Got to be worth $ 700 - $900.

[@pharmboycustoms3041]

Great work man! I just got my crossfire pro a week or so ago. I used your code and got the discount. I live in Greenfield indiana.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Awesome! Congrats, and thats for using the code. I think your a couple hours away or so.

[@stevek3786]

Small world. I’m in greenfield as well and have been eyeing these tables. I need to make some garage space though!

[@pharmboycustoms3041]

@stevek3786 I have shoulder surgery this Tuesday, so I'll be out of commission for about 6 weeks. My table will be in the boxes for a while unfortunately.

[@arthurmandel6541]

Great job on the sign Great detail and look, great way to incorporate the keystone girl and the tools. i think a 1000.00 or more based on time and materials cost, loved the video .

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks Arthur!

[@JCWren]

Wow, that turned out >really< nice. And I think I have that same pair of blue channel locks, with the plastic in about the same condition.

[@danholmblad9925]

Another great video. Love the fine touch with your name. I don't understand half of what you're doing. But learning. Got to have the victory beer. Keep up the awesome job.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks Dan! Hell half the time i dont even know what im doing.

[@kenschopshop]

great vid and sign !

[@HometownAcres]

I think that’s easily a $1,000 sign. Business would pay that all day long

[@galute658]

Very cool sign. Your buddy definitely ought to drop off a case of beer when he picks it up for that deal.

[@alanschmeeckle3261]

I've used an engine hoist with a lift magnet and chains to lift. The hoist folds up and sits in the corner when I don't need it.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thats a good idea

[@michaelbrandle]

I would say upwards of 1k, but I would need to know total time invested from time of contact until completion including material cost. Plus extra for the Keystone girl expert assistance! 😆 Great job on the project and the production value of the vid as always!

[@clilesny]

I wasn't sure about the tools on the end of the flag, but it came out really nice. Great idea incorporating something that connects the product with the intended owner. Seems like $100 per hour plus materials for a custom piece of work. If you move into production the quantity scale should drive down the cost. Nice work.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you!

[@michaelgonzalez8863]

Looks awesome ! $550 is what I would /could pay . I’m sure it could be worth more to someone with less skill and more money than me .

[@RuffinWood]

As an owner of the crossfire XR, I do some projects like this from time to time, but I want to know the details on the muriatic acid, how long you leave it on, what clear coat you sprayed on, etc!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

It only tool about 5 minutes to start breaking down the mill scale. Then i left it on over night and wiped it off. Just hit it with some rust oleum matte clear.

[@supertrooper7403]

Had to come back Kyle. I’d say anywhere from $800 - 1k for a sign like that is a fair price. I’m already subbed but you get a like for the KG…y’all are hilarious. - Matt

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks! We appreciate it

[@markknister6272]

Good work. $400 is killer! That said, $950 - 1,100 would be reasonable.

[@roblear6322]

That's a badass looking sign - that's at least a $1,000 sign.

[@JohnSmith-tv5ep]

Kyle, just throwin this at ya. Harbor Freight engine hoist, two 2"x4"x5' , 4 'C' clamps, and either 2ratchet straps or rope. Make an Egyptian pyramid from the apex of the hoist to the sides of the steel sheet for lifting to the table,.....or wait for the Keystone girl to stand opposite you to lift the steel. I like my first idea better, cause it's on YOU if the sheet falls. (Just sayin) Oh yeah ... what's covered behind the moving pad?🤔

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Good suggestion. I just have tools and material on the shelves. I keep it covered so it looks better in the videos. Its all temporary.

[@JohnSmith-tv5ep]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC Ok, I'll buy that, since you keep a neat and clean shop, ...everybody has a "kitchen junk drawer'' !!! Lol

[@karenfisher633]

Sign turned out great! Another informative and funny video! Love your and Keystone girl's humor!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. We try to keep things fun

[@karenfisher633]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC Hello! I tried Muriatic Acid to achieve a patina effect. Instead, I got a perfectly clean piece of metal....which might be good for a future project that I need clean. Did you add hydrogen peroxide to the muriatic acid....or how did you achieve that patina effect? Thank you for your help!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

No just the acid. I just painted it on inconsistently and let it sit overnight. Then i hit it with some clear coat.

[@karenfisher633]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC Thank you!

[@joewhitney4097]

Great video, interesting design, you have an eye for details. I haven't priced this type of work before but would think a one off special sign like that one should be worth at least double what you charged your friend for it. Thanks for sharing.

[@DanielDavis-jk2su]

Great video! Regarding price, I rarely purchase custom made items, and am surprised medium to large box stores charge so much for stuff. I blame the markup on why stuff is so high. Seeing all that you did, and learning a bit from Adam @HometownAcres, about factoring in the cost of replacing machines into the pricing. Id say a $800-$1k for both signs.

[@saschavolling7808]

Nice video. Really cool sign . Price I think 750-1k is possible 🎉

[@RBallarddesigns]

Good project. Turned out great.

[@gadgetshouseofbuild1554]

Of course looks amazing 750.00

[@johnfogg7858]

NICE WORK!! Very creative! LOVE the Automatic Tool Dispensor! PS: I watch ALL of your vids - I'm afraid that I might miss something, or someone, interesting....LOL. A thought: (not necessarily a good one) - in your present design, you have a diagonal that extends from the bottom right of the union to the bottom stripe. Mayne you could replicate that on the right side of the flag to solve the stability issue and save the trouble of making the rod.

[@supertrooper7403]

Man I wish I had a Keystone girl tool chest. I’d get more projects done……..maybe.

[@JupiterMoJo]

If the phone is getting too heavy to hold, then you for sure need to get her gym done asap! 🍻

[@The_BUNNICULA]

What do you paint your metal signs with? I love your channel btw!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you! If they are indoor i just use spray paint. A professional paint job on the larger signs would cost too much for most customers. Outdoor signs i have powder coated.

[@The_BUNNICULA]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC Thank you!

[@craigwarnke1715]

That was a very cool build!

[@camberedlex]

I am about a month into running my crossfire pro. You’ve helped me a lot! I’m curious what coolant you use?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Glad the content is helpful for you. I just use water. I might add some borax to it to help keep it clean.

[@BTHoosierHandyman]

Liked this video. quick question if this would have been your 2nd posted video how long did it take you?

[@BTHoosierHandyman]

start to posting

[@BTHoosierHandyman]

start to posting

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@BTHoosierHandyman thanks! Not sure what your asking though.

[@BTHoosierHandyman]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC Copy that. Im guessing im your fathers age . With that being said ,How much time do you have invested in the video? start to finish. edititing an filming?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I gotcha. I took a good part of the day to film it. Takes me another day to edit the video and make the thumbnail. Thats about as fast as i can make a video. Most of them take multiple days to film and sometimes editing too. Depends on the project.

[@scubasteve3293]

Awesome sign $1000 plus materials. Cheers man.....

[@Davy-w9e]

400 dollars that's crazy even for a freind. I will charge 100dollar a hour and 800 dollar for the design.all toghter atleast 2000dollar Nice job its my favorite so for.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thank you!

[@midwestkustomz6350]

Check your connections everywhere, especially on the head. I had the same issue with mine and it was a lose connection at the head one of the two wires had a lose connection where the terminal end was crimped and it was doing the same thing yours is On the height control.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks ill check that out. The initial torch height is good thats determined by the limit on the torch head. I think its something with the THC and the reference voltage. Idk. Ill check it out though.

[@midwestkustomz6350]

One more thing bud, make sure your firmware is up to date cause there was a fix added for this. Just was thinking about it. 👍

[@cena0331]

$400 is a steel……... Probably that much in material. Material times 3 is a rule of thumb I’ve been hearing lately. 400 x 3 = $1200. $1,200 sign. Around about anywho. Good shit, keep up the great videos.

[@HarleyRiderMC]

Great video. Your lady Keystone Girl is beyond adorable. You guys are a magnificent couple with a wonderful sense of humor. This design and your workmanship on this project is beautiful. If I were to order a custom project like this after seeing the materials used, the creativity you’ve applied and the skill you use to achieve the final product, I’d easily pay $1,500. Don’t ever sell yourself short, lad. God’s peace.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks for the great feedback. We appreciate it

[@PurpleCollarLife]

The real tools make it so much more impressive. And I thought that sledge on Doug's sign WAS a real sledge hammer.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Its looked like a real one. I show how i make it in the video. It would have been way too heavy.

[@jasongrinnell1986]

Damn you do good work. I’m thinking $750 for the sign. Maybe more. I mean 12 hours work plus material and shop time for electric and such.

[@StahlFabrications]

The sign came out great! I think you mentioned you had 12 hours into this build. By my numbers that sign should be over $1k with materials. Depends if that's 12 full hours. Sometimes I work on multiple projects at once in that timeframe. I always say don't undervalue your time.

[@CrowWood.MetalWorks]

$700-800 for sure. Is that an Easter egg in the first part of the video. That 2020 sign looks like it’s flipping me off lol. Love it great video

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks buddy! Wheres the easter egg? The 2020 sign is the middle finger. Someone else’s file that i cut.

[@CrowWood.MetalWorks]

Yea I was telling my wife the sign looks like the middle finger lol. It’s flipping us off lol right next to your panel on the wall. Min 5:49. Thanks for the scale info once again man your doing the lords work 🤘🏼lol

[@rhettmckenney8787]

instead of typing it into the calculator you can type that same thing 24/46 or w.e. it was right in the fusion scale box and it will do the math for you and be right on the money.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@rhettmckenney8787 ya that was mention a handful of times in the comments. I wasnt aware of that until i got the feedback in the comments. Thanks.

[@Tim4111]

Awesome work 👏

[@jimlawrence8905]

I'd say with time and materials 1200.00 to 1500.00. But I may be under by a bit.

[@rickhoguerealtor]

How much do you charge for plasma time? What is your time worth per hour? How much were the raw materials? 75 to 100 per hour minimum in my opinion.

[@JackInTheShop]

Nice tool chest BTW.

[@longshot726]

Really comes down to how quick you think you could do it. I have a different table that could do all of that in one cut session and at 200+ ipm. If I had the DXF files ready to go, probably around the $550 mark all in is what I would quote someone for this. Double the material cost (roughly $40 for half a sheet 4x8 14ga x2 = $80) + $50-70 consumable fee (paint, electrode, tip, electricity) + roughly 4 hours shop time which would include the like 10 minutes this was being cut. No DXF, add a $75/hr draft/Etsy search fee (cheaper than shop rates since it only wear and tear on my desk chair), minimum 1 hr. If it took 10 hours, my rates would be in the $1150+ range.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks for the breakdown

[@danbrown4205]

You don't need to use a calculator. Let Fusion do the math for you. If you enter 24/46 into the scale factor field, Fusion will do the calculation. It's also more accurate since its not rounding the result. Just a quick tip.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I never knew that. Someone else mentioned that too. I will definitely give it a try. Thanks for the info.

[@RJvidmoto]

Talent! Nice work!!

[@thomascarroll1916]

Great looking sign.

[@rantiksadventure1920]

I can’t believe you put a metric ajustable wrench on a Mercian flag.

[@markbrockelman316]

Nice work. Like the distressed look on the name. I’d charge $1k.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks Mark!

[@KornbreadKrafts]

We refer to the adjustable wrenches as Spanish speed wrenches

[@willywonka2933]

I mounted my electronics to the wall very much worth while

[@frijoli9579]

1200 plus materials.

[@jeffwhite2107]

Oh that’s so sick and naughty lol❤

[@EverythingElliott]

I just want to know what secrets you're hiding on those shelves behind the moving blankets...

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Hah! Everyone is curios about those damn shelves. Ill reveal whats behind them in the next video.

[@Will-No-Co]

My problem is I always get the cost wrong. You know how things can always take longer than you expected.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Ya i have that happening with a free sign im donating. It turned into a nightmare. Luckily this one went smooth.

[@kiotimike]

Great work kyle another impressive job done. 👏 $800 Need less friends and more full price customers 😂 Cheers 🍻

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Hah! Thanks buddy. If i keep sending hats to Canada ill be broke

[@kiotimike]

@SpicerDesignsLLC no crap! Shipping is crazy 🤪 I love my spicer hat I wear often and get asked wtf is it all the time. Maybe one day I will travel down to you and load up on spicer swag 😎

[@michaelgonzalez8863]

Nice !

[@chizuck3322]

what are those standoffs?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I made a video a while back about layering signs. I believe i left a link in the description of that video. I get them from McMaster Carr.

[@appalachianman824]

What Magnet re you using ?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I just use a generic magnet that pivots to grab cut outs.

[@webekings]

@11:28 WHAT are these tabs called?! They are the best for hanging 7 foot shutters and did my best to find them. I need those, sir!!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Email me and i can make you some. Email is in the description.

[@rustbeltmotors3659]

What guage steel are you normally using?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I like using 14 ga. Mostly because i weld on most signs and it takes the heat a little better.

[@seafuryphil]

In canada 🇨🇦 1800$ plus tax

[@SemperWelding]

No math need to scale you can just input size you want divide by original size. Something like this if the body is 12 stock and you need 24 just input in like this 24/12 in the scale factor spot. 🍻

[@scotter_dotter]

For the Karen’s: Kyle should pull tools out of his Speedo!😂. Have you ever thought of adding l.e.d. to your signs?

[@dian3145]

Ignore the Karen’s and avoid the speedos..ick…😝

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I try to stay away from the LEDs. I dont want call backs if they crap out and its adds a lot of work to do it right and most of the time people dont want to pay what its worth.

[@carymartz8762]

I got tired of fighting with that THC and wasting steel so I sold my plasma and bought a laser.

[@KenMrKLC]

I would think that sign would be $1200-$1500 area plus shipping costs if it wasn't being picked up

[@alanbierhoff6831]

I guess I was the other guy who watched that video 😂

[@Z-Bart]

Len Dawson? You had to go there? #16 Kansas City Chiefs beat my MN Vikings in Super Bowl IV. Thanks Kyle. Lol. Tell The Keystone Girl I'm 14-2 picking the sweet 16. Well, I could be . After tonight.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Haha!

[@robertgiguere7137]

The flag would look better painted red, white and blue. But overall looks great.🇺🇸

[@danbrown4205]

What’s the spray you used to give it the rusted patina look? Thanks!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Ahh Dan! You cant skip through the video. I showed the whole process. Muratic acid

[@danbrown4205]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC I watched the whole video :) I thought you were using the muriatic acid to clean off the mill scale, and you were using something in a spray can for the patina. Was that just a clear coat?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@danbrown4205 i know its hard tell in text but i was just messing with you. The muriatic acid was all i used dor the patina effect and then i hit it with some matte clear coat. I was really happy with the finish it gave it. Works great on mill scale too like you said.

[@Btknows75]

Around 8 to 9 hundred with the flux in material costs

[@haraldolsen8313]

I am Norwegian and even I felt patriotic when I saw the finished flag. 👍

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Haha! Thats an effective fab job right there. Thanks for the comment!

[@chrisendres9194]

What laptop are you using to run 360 or what do you recommend?

[@StahlFabrications]

Fusion is single threaded so get the highest speed processor you can afford. The models run in memory, so also get as much memory as you can. If your models get larger than what can be placed in memory, Fusion will come to a halt. Rendering is multi-threaded, but that's not that important to design.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I use a macbook air. Its worked fine for me over the years for what im doing.

[@kentcorbett5436]

😮 Retail I would say you're probably looking at six hundered

[@dcmotive]

Lately Ive been running my water at only like 1/2" deep. Not much splash and a bit better scale to knock off. Just something that works for me. Ive been using vinegar for cleaning the millscale off. Just a tub I soak it in overnight, im sure muratic acid is way more effective, but then I have some vinegar ready to go for uh salad dressing and what not. Hah hah another upside down machine. Too hilarious. Oh yeah and also, I cant really see any difference between the performance of the 20W vs the 40W laser, Im starting to think its a marketing scam with just different sticker. With that in miind, use the C02 laser, mark the tools with snap-on and double the charge. ha ha Price, metal alone is $100, tools $60, time $800 ish, tooling $250 = 1200 ish. this comments way to long

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I appreciate the feedback. Always look forward to your comments

[@mrsound1]

$1,200