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It's not really a secret formula, its just how I like to price my CNC jobs. In my opinion there's is no specific way to do it. As long as you can find a happy medium between material costs, your time and the customer getting a fair price, YOUR GOOD! We're also going to cut a quick job on the CNC table and talk about how I priced it as well. Thanks for watching and don't forget to SUBSCRIBE!
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[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

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[@jackiewatkins1830]

I agree it is always good to stretch before u cut steel..

[@willywonka2933]

Hey man love the videos , real curious how do you have your air supply set up I am looking to get my air dry

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I do have a couple videos where i talk about the compressor and dryer. I thought it was the start your own cnc business video.

[@LCTIGERS3]

Can you do a video of how you cut signage or other things on your CnC that need a bigger cut than your actual table?

[@geoffputnam]

Really love the "banter" between you two!

[@toddmayta7615]

A knotted wire cup brush on your grinder takes the dross off lickety split.

[@davidperwitz4577]

Great shop. I’ve seen the pieces Rich Sharp is turning out with the aluminum. Details are incredible and pieces are super light. Love this stuff

[@johntyrone307]

I don't even need a sign, but I'm tempted to order a really TINY sign just because these videos are so good!!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Hah! Thanks. Glad your enjoying the videos.

[@bdaley1976]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC actually an interesting thought, batch run your logo, optimizing, layout of a sheet send in padded envelope for $$ that has your logo and supporter on the bottom.

[@bryanturner683]

"Hey, how much are your signs?" "They are not signs they are monograms". "Well how much are they?" "Same as a sign".

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

They are signs to me. Thats what makes the most sense. I believe the monograms are the circular signs. Cost depends on multiple variables. You can email me if your interested and ill get you some pricing.

[@bryanturner683]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC I have to apologize for my warped sense of humor. I was referring to ban episode of the Simpsons, Goes like this, Bart to cop, "hey man , can I see your club?" Cop, "its not club its a baton". Bart "what do you do with it?" Cop, "Club people". Just thought it was funny that they weren't supposed to be called "signs". Good work on your part. I think the pigeons are called tumblers. they tumble through the air.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@bryanturner683 hah. I didnt see that one. I figured something was going on with all the quotations. Humor is always welcome on the channel.

[@spraggerm]

Good work 👍 no beer while working? Keystones are a must !

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I know. Ive been on a no beer diet this month. Starting to stick. My next video should be a good one. Keystone girl got some new bikinis. 👌

[@georgef1176]

I’ve heard of pigeon calling, I’ve heard of pigeons delivering messages and drugs etc. never knew of pigeon gymnastics?!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Just pigeon racing. Thats it.

[@nickwstp]

Says "here is my secret formula" At the end he says "I don't really have a formula"

[@69jokerking]

Love your videos, especially appreciate how you will answer questions keep up the good work. Do you use cold rolled steel or hot rolled?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks, glad your enjoying them. I prefer cold rolled. Machine likes it better and easier to clean for welds. Its hard to get from the supplier i use.

[@OneEyeCustoms]

Great info! Flipping pigeons, that’s a new one for me also! Lol

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Ya i never had a clue that existed. I still haven’t had a chance to watch your new video. Im gonna check it out today

[@quintinstrope9145]

They're technically called roller pigeons my grandpa raised a ton of them the ideal situation is for them to all roll at the same time. Very good video btw!

[@bryanturner683]

Tumbling Pigeons I think?

[@Z-add]

The cam can tell you the time it takes to make the cuts. You don't use that info in your pricing?

[@stevendavies98]

So 2 questions. Can you provide a complete list of things necessary for the setup you have, speaking about the table etc. The website is not clear as to the entire config. And how much odor is produced forom the process? I.e. Need great ventalation etc? Thanks.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I made a specific video on all the equipment needed. I think its called start your own cnc business. And you will need ventilation.

[@batyote2771]

Happy Thanksgiving! Quick question what is the air pressure you are using from the tank to the dryer then to the plasma? I ordered the pro today sorry i didnt use your promo due to black friday deal giving me the limit switch and thc for free. I do like your videos please keep them coming! 🍻

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I run it at 75psi. Congrats on your purchase and i understand. Langmuir screws me on they’re sales. I get them traffic but no credit. I would have done the same thing as you. Save whatever money you can.

[@Will-No-Co]

Nice info Kyle. Do you use a service that already makes a cut file for generic items? I ask because a customer wants a skull and crossbones for Halloween and a turkey for thanksgiving. He’s buying from me, painting and reselling them. Thanks

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

No i typically make them from scratch. I dont do a whole lot of stock signs like that. If i had a fiber machine i would. Less clean up.

[@user-fe9tf7ub1s]

Do you use your Baileigh drum sander for sanding your metal signs? Ive seen videos of guys using wide belt sanders to put nice finishes on their metal signs. Thanks.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

My plan was to use it to clean the dross. I made a video on that sander. Not sure if you watched that one yet.

[@michaelwenman2348]

Have been looking ar ordering a crossfire pro, so the controlbox and cable boom can be installed on either side? I have only seen it on the left.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Im not sure on that one. I dont see why it couldnt. Sorry, not much help on that one.

[@michaelwenman2348]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC I asked because i tlooks like yours is on the front right... all other installs I have seen the box and boom are on the back left.. Guess I'll figure it out when I get one ordered.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@michaelwenman2348 i havent payed much attention. I would assume theyre all the same

[@zanebanks1530]

IBEW 1547, subbed!

[@RaceMentally]

so roughly $70-$100 sq ft depending on finish?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

It all depends. I would say its closer to $20-50 a square ft for a typical monogram. If you can use the scrap on smaller cuts you can make some more per sq ft.

[@RaceMentally]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC I guess it would depend on material thickness too. Trying to get a rough estimate on what to charge by area if that’s possible. Also, do you have a program you recommend for transferring images into a file? I’m new so all the help in the right direction would be appreciated! 🙏🏼

[@American.Divergent]

Pretty clean cuts. I’m running fine cut tips that run up to 30a. Mind sharing more settings for clean cuts like that

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I typically run 35 amps at 70 ipm on 14 ga mild steel. Thats the bulk of what i cut.

[@American.Divergent]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC do you use a thc? Or just set the height and go?

[@BassMasterProAngler]

Do you take any deposits up front for custom work?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Ya i can. If theres something you need just email me and we can get it going. My shop is currently down due to a move. Youll see in the next video. Thanks

[@user-ii7qs8me4z]

would you be interested in selling the IBEW DXF? Would love to make one for myself.

[@jeremyfake1612]

Hi Kyle, new subscriber. Great channel. I must have missed it but I'm curious to know what gauge steel your typically using for your signs? Thanks

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks for subscribing! I like using 14 ga most of the time. Sometimes ill use 16 and 12 depending on what it is. Thanks for the comment.

[@Woody59er]

Great Video, my wife and I are looking at the Crossfire entry machine (limited space) looks like your happy with Langmuir? Hey what kind of cordless grinder is that you used in the video? Thanks from your new Canadian subscriber

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. I have some amazon links in the description. Its a Milwaukee die grinder. Also have a promo code in the description that will save you $100 on the crossfire. Thanks for the comment

[@adambenavidez7042]

How big is your air compressor for the plasma cutter?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Its just a cheap 30 gallon husky. I have another video where i talk about all the equipment and pricing if you want more info.

[@adrianlozanomendoza8065]

Nice video, What do you spray over the sheet? and why?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

That was probably just simple green cleaner. Just to clean any residue off of it. If the material is really dirty, ive noticed it will mess with the cut. Nothing that noticeable but i clean it anyway

[@DogSerious]

Flipping Pigeons are everywhere.

[@davesauerzopf6980]

Can you do aluminum?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Oh you better believe it. I have a video of a large aluminum sign job on the channel.

[@Tempest_5485]

Where do you get your designs from? Do you draw them in some vector design software (eg. Adobe Illustrator) or in a CAD program? What software so you use to make the job done?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I use fusion 360. I have a bunch of videos showing the process step by step

[@Tempest_5485]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC Ok, I need to watch them then :) Thanks 👍

[@carlosg1507]

What gauge thickeness did you use? What gauge is more common that you work with? Great videos

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

I used 14 ga. Thats what i typically use. Especially if im doing any welding on it.

[@carlosg1507]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC Thanks

[@richsharp1524]

Nice video. I have the same machine with hypertherm power max 45 xp. Right now I’m using finecut on all of my signs and silhouettes. I’m cutting 5052 h32 aluminum 16 gauge. The fine cut is night and day difference, the Details are very sharp. Thanks for posting your video 😁 watching cnc plasma never gets boring also what is your baileigh machine ?? I have a baileigh rdb 150 tube bender.

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Ill have to look into that. Im not too happy with the fine details. Anything smaller i have to sub out to get laser cut

[@ar2043]

@spicer and @richie I’ve seen some work done with that specific aluminum, as well as some of your work Rich, and it looks super nice! I know nothing about this other than I like looking at it, but are there any advantages/disadvantages between steel and aluminum? Other than cost, I would think aluminum is the way to go. But again, I don’t know anything about it other than I personally prefer aluminum pieces. Thanks.

[@richsharp1524]

@@SpicerDesignsLLC ya if you get a chance try the fine cut. I will never go back to standard unless I’m cutting large thicker pieces. ( they work great don’t get me wrong ) but the fine cut on small pieces with details is unbelievable difference. You will love it. This was such a great video to show people how to price and what to except. Best one so far. And your shop is MINT man !!!! Love it

[@richsharp1524]

@@ar2043 well, the steel has a much sharper looking edge than the aluminum. But the aluminum is nice in that it’s super light and easy to handle the sheets. My sheets are 52”by 72”. (Odd size I know lol ) but they weigh only 20.6 pounds. And I have a stack of them. Both look great cut. I just happened to get a good deal on the aluminum

[@56WagonWheel]

What kind of maintenance do you have to do on your machine and how often?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Just change the water out when needed. Also have the consumables for the torch. Depends on how much use it gets. Last is the tables slats. They get pretty chewed up after a while.

[@FoiledDuck]

Would love a video like this but with your lasering

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Ya i could definitely work on that. Ill put it on the list. Thanks for the suggestion

[@jasonw2696]

I would say $100 is cheap

[@in2heat451]

65 ipm on 14g? I cut 14 at 140 have over 5k pierces on original consumables 100s of projects no warpage. Did Imiss something

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Wow your amazing

[@sjbachar15]

He’s a drug dealer man. Look up hot to flip pigeons

[@lesterlecompte868]

Do you ever call anyone

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Call anyone for what?

[@balacustoms1282]

What size and type air compressor do you use ?

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Its a cheap 30 gall husky. In my start up cost video i show all the specs on it.

[@balacustoms1282]

Cool thanks!

[@joeinkentucky]

I would hardly call that a "secret formula for pricing projects."

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Thats what the thumbs down button is for Joe.