Spider-Man and Mary Jane get BACK TOGETHER! | The Life and Death of Spiders

[@comicpop]

Buy this Amazing Spider-Man volume! amzn.to/3PobEnj

[@loganthomas2421]

Isn’t it great that Peter and MJ got back together in this comic and remained a couple until the end of time

[@jameskingman1227]

@@loganthomas2421 Mephist who?

[@lukeamparo6586]

Renew Your Vows was a nice continuation.

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

Paul who’s that? Never heard of him it’s just Peter and MJ.

[@JARD7318]

@@bearerofbadnews1375 Oh good I was wondering when my hitman would do their job.

[@JayDay01]

Yhea isn't it great May day is on the avengers now

[@jameskingman1227]

I love how we spend 45 mins talking about the Shathra plot which is roughly 4 issues, then nearly another further 45 mins on 1 issue where Peter and MJ just talk like adults and we have a fun comic book team up sprinkled in (to be fair I have always loved this issue too)

[@Seabass0930]

Allright, I'll go back and like all your videos.

[@Mat23]

New 52 Animal Man 🤜🤛

[@matthewhastie8351]

Another reason why this is so seminal is like... it's the last Amazing Spider-Man run. Of course there's been like 400 issues since then, but as we all know, OMD broke things. If you were to read every issue of ASM up until this run, it would be one complete continuity. It might not always fully jive, but at least the universe itself didn't change and alter past stories. And then after JMS, it feels like we basically start from 0 for each run. Slott got to play in the sandbox for awhile, but Spencer reset things, and the Wells did it again. Things stick around, but it feels like continuity has become looser, and because of that, everything matters less. This isn't necessarily exclusive to Spider-Man (as comics themselves have changed a ton over the past couple decades), but OMD was such a dramatic event with a significant "Before" and "After" that it makes him the best example

[@Jameskoek]

You know I've never thought about it like this, but you're not wrong. I personally Loved Slott's entire run, and Spencer's was Amazing "pun intended". Spider-man 616's problem in recent years is Marvel not wanting it the have a long history, and constant soft resets that take the kick out of multiple runs bleeding into each other like they used to. Arguably DC was doing the same too, given they would go into new 52 very soon. Mid 2000s was a weird time for comics looking back on it.

[@Lennywinks]

I could listen to Sal talk about his gripes about Spider-Man for hours

[@andrewlewis2123]

The bit about the marriage around 1:08:00 deserves to be its own YT short or tangent video!

[@Sicod79]

Wow, I hope they get back with another episode at some point!

[@BronzeBoy520]

Me too, my fave part is when they get back with another episode at some point!

[@THE_Dodge_Morningstar]

Get... Back?

[@comicdevil1964]

@@THE_Dodge_MorningstarBack….Issues?

[@jameskingman1227]

Thanks to Sal and the gang for another year of brilliant KZbin content. Hope you all managed to get a well deserved Christmas break.

[@liamhemstock2286]

I love the Peter and MJ relationship, I can’t wait for when they cover USM 2024. It’s incredible

[@jameskingman1227]

It really is, I don’t buy that many books anymore what with having proper responsibilities these days. However I made an exception for USM, and I have to say I read the first volume in about an hour. I couldn’t put it down, it’s legitimately one of the best Spider-Man stories I have read in years.

[@liamhemstock2286]

@@jameskingman1227then you’ll love Vol.2 when it releases. So many new elements and teases and times where I’ve gone “IT’S THE THING I KNOW BUT IN A NEW WAY” and the last issue is my favourite since issue 1. So good

[@TheGreatDevlin]

"Save Ben" is the campaign for 2025

[@jameskingman1227]

I think one of the reasons why this still resonates with me is that this feels like the final era where Peter was allowed to grow and change, for better or worse, but it does feel like there is real progression. Dan Slott did some good stuff after this, but it really felt like when he was done he just put his toys back in the box. JMS felt like he wanted to contribute to an actual narrative.

[@superjlk_9538]

Slott was probably told he could do whatever he wanted…as long as he ended with it back to normal

[@Ashguy733]

This was the final era for me with 616 Spidey and I just continued on with Ultimate after JMS's run was done.

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

So he nuked it and made pitch for Sins Pasts. Every writer tries to contribute and everyone will try to put stuff for next writer, but I think there's this weird narrative around JMS being anything special, when all was leading to One More Day already and considering Slott time was way longer and had own stuff with editorial for years, he ended on better note.

[@jameskingman1227]

@@mikhaelgribkov4117 to be fair, by the time of sins past he was getting a lot of editorial meddling in his stories. I don’t agree with the sins past story, but after rereading it, it holds up as an actual story, it would have also been better if they were Peters kids and not Norman’s as originally intended (not that I want that either). But again at least you can say that even in that story there is character progression and JMS was flat out made to write One More Day, even to the point of he didn’t write the final issue.

[@ftfasttalkfoodreviewsyt]

Shathra sounds like a godzilla character

[@mmmdule]

I randomly found these and the next & previous volumes while on vacation. Bought them with no hesitation. Ended up being the only "souvenirs" I got there. Can't wait to finish the episode and hear you guys talk about more JMS Spider-Man!

[@Jameskoek]

One of my all time favorte moments in a Spider-man Crossover is in the Invincible Team up, "it was I think a year before Civil War" Mark asks him who the hot Redhead is and Peters just like "That's my Wife" to which Mark is basically just like "Nice"

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

The show truly didn't adapt the good partrs of that crossover.

[@TaylorChatsMan]

Great video! The intro broke my brain for a minute. Really enjoyed the look back in time at Comicpops lore with Penance as well.

[@cladladd]

It’s been like 15 years cant we just go back to this already…

[@SergeantPancake]

God bless comic pop. One of my favorite KZbin channels

[@BronzeBoy520]

In this episode of the life of Spider-Man, Peter Parker is miserable for most of it but MJ is there to help him and he’s a happier man for it, feeling that he can’t be Spider-Man without her. In the next episode of Spider-Man, MEPHISTO!

[@davidwcnelson]

Let’s hear it for JMS ASM!!! Thanks Sal and company!

[@vitanpatel2061]

Absolutely underrated story

[@Runge_was_here]

Consider yourself the bagel is just so much funnier to me than it probably should be. Good way to start the year. 😂

[@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780]

I like JMS' Shathra SO MUCH more than the stupid, mustache-twirling retconned version from Spiderverse. I'm so sick of "corruptor" villains in general (it doesn't help that we've had so many the last couple of years with the constant abuse of the Symbiotes and Knull). The way she speaks and behaves just feels so distinct and alien-like which complements her origin as a creature from the Astral Plane who's not supposed to be on the material plane. She also mirrors the conflict between Ezekiel's and Pete's argument about where Pete derrives his powers in a similar way to Morlun, where she treats Pete as a Spider totem which he is not and he knows it. Also, the interactions between a primitive, astral predator who goads Spider-Man into becoming more violent and spider-like and ditching the "man" and Pete are fun to read. I also loved how in her first story Shathra didn't have a distinct and consistent appearance, which adds to her origin as a predator from the Astral Plane - she goes from a slick, ink-black humanoid when she's playing with her food, to a human when she's goading Pete to embrace being the Spider totem which she's come to the material plane to hunt, to some kind of beastly, insectoid creature when she herself begins embracing her essence as the spider wasp to Spider-Man's spider. When Shathra ditches her intelligence and commits to a hunt, she loses humanoid body parts and begins subtly changing shape into a more insectoid, wasp-like shape, adopting new, insectoid body parts. She loses all of that in all of her subsequent appearances the same way how additional lore and background hurt Morlun as well. It's this irony where I want JMS' original villains like Morlun, Shade, Digger, Shathra, etc. to be used more, but every time they ARE used more those subsequent appearances only actively make those characters much worse :D

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

Didn't Shade just simply die? And a thing with JMS villains is that no one wants to deal with esoteric spider-totem stuff, except for Dan, it seems. Which is sad, because I do agree that concepts like Shathra are fun, but you clearly see even around JMS time that other writers could care less for it and before Spider-verse she was killed in Scarlet Spider book.

[@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780]

@@mikhaelgribkov4117 Yeah, you're right. Too bad there's no way to use dead characters in comic books. Not to mention that comic book writers always know and respect the canon of the characters they use and never use characters that died without an explanation as to how they came back or even acknowledgment that they were dead to begin with...

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

@@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780 I personally headcannon Shade into being the weird resurrection guy from Zed Wells that killed Miss Marvel, because I think it's so on brand. Edit: I would love Shade in Black Cat book, he would fit the heist type plot.

[@alexiscastelan1824]

The panel where Peter and MJ embrace and Peter explaining why he needs MJ is all time moment in this run and feels so deserved. Happy New Year ComicPop!🎉🎉

[@spheremode3271]

Finally JMS Spidey is back on Back Issues! This arc is such a highlight.

[@DomovoiJr]

Y’all are one of only two channels I actually have notifications turned on for and that I make sure to like and comment on every video.

[@milesfantasy14]

Finally JSM goodness to Cap off 2024

[@Grizwood]

Love this channel I never know what to comment but here I am commenting.

[@Hulkzilla0]

YES! More JMS Spider-Man! The issue with Peter and MJ at the airport (and guest starring Captain America and the illustrious Dr. Doom) is one of my all time favorite Spidey stories. Happy New Year everyone! Much love!

[@heartbeatcity23]

You can't ever tell me thor wasn't wingmaning for Peter by stranding the planes

[@Hulkzilla0]

@@heartbeatcity23 "The Man of Spiders needs his red-headed wife. By the might of Thor, their union shall be made whole yet again!"

[@JimmiMiller1]

Just know that the intro of this episode has brought me to frickin tears man , lmaooo yo wth , love these guys

[@jameskingman1227]

Awesome, I’m always waiting for the JMS stories to turn up on back issues!

[@nathanchaffin6380]

A great run on Spider-man! An even better episode of Back Issues!! Thanks fellas. Made my week.

[@KOFNY]

Back Issues WOO! Happy New Year Sal-lads! What better way to start than with a JMS Spider-Man book👽

[@RealSethery]

Just started the video commenting cuz Sal told me to Uh I love this show!

[@blendedtime8162]

Glad you guys are covering this, I'm going through this run right now. Read The Conversation years ago and am just now coming back to read more.

[@drewdier]

Loved this episode. What a great way to ring in the new year! Thank you for continuing to share your love and appreciation of comics with all of us. I'm looking forward to what you have in story in 2025.

[@hyaena23]

This is my favorite channel in KZbin and i always recomend it, I hope that helps a little to keep the funny commentary about spiderman's Dick alive. Love you guys ❤

[@andrewschaff3765]

As a Denver local. I absolutely agree with the hike complaint. But, that airport will function no matter how destroyed it is.

[@lexofpower2822]

I’m glad you covered Amazing Spider-Man #50. It’s my favorite issue of the JMS run, it’s so funny and sweet and action packed! Happy New Year!!!

[@jakemayorquin5460]

I really canNOT wait to see you guys next week with another episode!

[@shiningnight12]

I love how Grant Morrison and Meta the show got at the end lol. Awesome episode

[@thesavageJ]

The Best Spiderman run hands down

[@The_Phantasm]

Happy New Year ComicPoppers!!!

[@jakegittes1864]

For me, this JMS run with JRJR (before JRJR left. I think it’s about 38 issues in total) was the last time 616 Spider-Man comics were good, which is sad because it was 20+ years ago.

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

Nah, Dan Slott run up to 700 hundred and during Superior was the era where Spider-man was himself, after that there's was Slott's burn out and then there's weird spite era where people simply try to distance from Slott's stuff and somehow go under.

[@joshuazalipski2715]

Consider the buttons clicked. You all rule!

[@Ducaso]

And they loved happily ever after, in our hearts.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Now we know Peter's line. If you're a despotic tyrant, you get a pass from Spider-Man. But the moment you make fun of Spider-Man's Dick, that's it. You go under the belt, Pete's putting you under the ground.

[@accidentalmadness1708]

There’s some lines you just don’t cross.

[@Spyder7223]

Ok, New years resolution, I'll buy a comic pop shirt by the end of the year to help you guys, I'm already subscribed, so I can hopefully save ben from being canabalized by buying a shirt lol 😆

[@bZman]

Best way to start a new year!

[@timhickey80]

Happy New Year folks! Thanks for all the amazing content in 2024, looking forward to more awesome comic book hog jokes in 2025

[@mattherndy2790]

Absolutely love this show. I’m in the middle of reading the JMS Spider-Man run currently and Sal is spot on 😂

[@bensneb360]

Starting off the year with J. Michael Straczynski’s Spider-Man, not to mention the one where Peter and Mary-Jane get back together, no better way to start off the new year right then with one of the best Spider-Man stories of all time

[@ridge825]

Happy New Year ComicPop crew ❤❤. Love you guys

[@coreymcgivney5897]

I really love the very visceral action of JRJR’s Spidey Art, especially the way JMS stages the action, similar to the Raimi movies where the action packs a punch, just think that sorta action fits Spider-Man.

[@playboicardigan]

Happy New Year ComicPop crew!

[@egorruzhin1866]

Love you guys, thank you for the nonstop video production this holiday season🫶🏼

[@positiveproductions6699]

I really appreciate your videos and Also explaining what's going on in the story arcs I really appreciate that detail keep up the great work

[@LINK67890]

I found it funny that the last time they talk about JMS's Spiderman run on the couch they we're going to kill Ben, now he's going to be eaten. Can't wait for the next time the JMS's run is brouth up and send Ben to the Moon.

[@taygallagher42]

This was easily one of the funniest episodes

[@alberto1583]

I remember hearing about this back on Good, Bad, and the Ugly. I really loved the way you guys covered issue 50. Then Sal brought up JMS's run on Back Issues. You guys are the reason I bought the omnibus, and thank God I did. I absolutely love this run. It's got a special place in my heart. Thank you, guys! Oh, and Happy New Year!!!

[@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache]

Why do I feel like this episode was made as a commentary against the current state of The Amazing Spider-Man comic? Not that I mind, because I am 100% with you.

[@C4rrEternal]

I know others have already said it in the comments here, but it bears repeating: this run FEELS (retroactively) like the last actual run on Spider-Man. I hate the direction that Marvel (and comics in general) has gone in the past 15+ years. When every run on a character ends with things back at status quo and no real character development, the universe starts to feel less real and interesting. OMD legitimately ruined Marvel Comics in my eyes. The whole multiverse collapsed, and Marvel refused to reboot because it didn't want to invalidate all those previous stories... but they'll do it with Spider-Man specifically because they clearly don't understand what a loving marriage is like and how interesting it really is.

[@speed-sm5jz]

38:51 If I remember correctly the implication was that Ezekiel used his wall crawling abilities for ridiculous amounts of corporate espionage

[@marshallboche4320]

I love this show! I best see that like count fly up!

[@batsight1]

1:13:10 best quote to summarise the current 616 Spiderman Dilemma. And in my opinion, i think Batman doesnt have that problem weirdly.

[@velemamba260]

I think Batman doesn't have that problem because he's at a different stage of life to Peter. The stage of life the writers seem to want Peter to go back to is one that I think is inherently transitory. They want him to be in that uncertain mid-point of life when people are still trying to figure their lives out and become who they're going to be. The problem with that is that for a really long time he was out of that stage and we saw who he would eventually be. So now he's rolled back into being less mature while the characters around him, who grew up with him, were able to stay in that more grown up stage. Now with Batman, he was always mature. The difference between him with development and him without it aren't as pronounced. The writers want him to be essentially an eternal 30-something, and fundamentally, while people definitely still can change and develop after 30, the difference just won't be as stark as it could be after they've been developing since they were 20.

[@titolove6895]

The lobster holding MJ reminds me of the lobsters from the Amanda show

[@emperorg9910]

Happy New Years guys.

[@sunnywaffles]

15:41 It always go back to Spawn huh Sal

[@TheClitCommander530]

I don't always comment, but I do smash that like button on every ComicPop video.

[@bZman]

I always hit up the new comicpop episode ASAP. Best part of the week!

[@jameskingman1227]

I’m definitely guilty of forgetting to like videos. A gentle reminder every now and again is appreciated. Especially if it helps you guys out.

[@hurkherc]

im shocked ive read ahead on something comicpop is yet to cover for an episode. shocked and somewhat proud

[@gibberishname]

Having grown up in St. Louis, the arch is about a 15 minute drive from the airport... but then again EVERYTHING in St. Louis is about a 15 minute drive from everything else.

[@amanzeihedioha]

Happy New Year, man it's been a year since I've found you guys and it's been an enlightening Wednesday since!

[@cherch222]

Love getting more JMS Spider-Man

[@solsticeofsins6039]

My favorite couch trio is talking about my favorite comic couple. Thanks for the awesome start to the year, guys!

[@jjh01harmon38]

What a great New Year's Omen with this story. Only up from here!

[@peterzeppeli2563]

Anything for you Sal! I’ll like it all!

[@julianmitchell2186]

Happy New Year, Comic Pop fam!

[@kr555wizard]

wow in this spider-man back issues we got a huge retcon for the bat-issues saga. I can't believe that they did that.

[@QuintMarvel]

lol, I'm waiting for you guys to tackle the Zeb Wells run

[@logan2b]

Great episode, maybe my favorite issue of asm is when they’re in the airport

[@JLD22591]

JMS Amazing Spider-Man! Happy New Year everybody! Although these episodes usually end up with me having to go back and reread the entire run... Also not a bad way to start the new year LOL.

[@seand7042]

Morgan come back! He's stuck in a loop!

[@brucebriley8297]

best way to start the year

[@MrWolfJack]

Great show, love you guys!! I would watch an episode of Bat Issues from the Back Cave anytime!! :D

[@hurkherc]

i was in 3rd standard around 2007 when I first saw this J Scott Campbell Cover in the Gen Knowledge Book, a topic on famous superheroes

[@shinquas]

Back to JMS ASM. Good way to start the year off!

[@bushysbakedbeans]

early in the morning too for me, this is great

[@lukasszalbot1636]

It's afternoon for me.. Hahaha

[@jakelasherart]

This era of spiderman was great!!!

[@spidermaster0543]

Leaving a comment for the sake of engagement! Love the show!

[@Mr_ULTMT]

Holy shit I’m so excited Spider-Man is back!!

[@webheadcamstudios1344]

Happy New Year, Comic Pop!!!

[@ChrisM-z6b]

I wish I could say that making Spiderman magic was the worst retcon marvel did, but there's been so many other horrible changes to Spiderman. I'm not sure it's even in the top 10.

[@realLisanAlGaib]

I can't wait for another episode! I can't wait for another episode! I can't wait... hey, where am I? Well anyway, Happy New Year Population !

[@HeroClone99]

I Love Y'all! Y'all're Too Funny!

[@Insane-Howl-Cowl]

A "Save Ben" stream would probably make a good amount of money, plus isn't that what Spider-Man would want in the end? To save (Uncle) Ben?

[@chimera763]

Would be funny if wolverine is like “ she’s not a red head , I don’t believe it “

[@NovastarDoughnut]

said it before, say it again. these videos are my favourite "i need something to put on in the background or need something to sleep to" content. also if you really wanted a good justification for the whole "spider totem" stuff, have it be that Ezekiel was using that whole thing as a justifcation to reject responsibilty. its him going "see what happened, uncle ben dying none if it was your fault. because of that I dont NEED to be responsible with my power becauseit was fate that brought me here"

[@GeminiTasiri]

I know that this is not the first time this has come up, but I still really enjoy the "Franklin Richards' favorite hero is Spider-Man and that's why he (and persumably his supporting cast) are not aging) headcannon.

[@GeminiTasiri]

Also I wasn't prepared for the "Black Widow is dressed more like a spider than Spider-Man is" revelation