Spider-Man Gives The Hulk His Best

[@SignoftheMagi]

The two thing people often forget: -Spider-Man is a LOT stronger than he lets on. Like tossing cars casually strong. -Hulk is not just a rage monster. He is completely capable of the entire range of emotion, including compassion and loyalty.

[@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398]

Just Cars??... He managed to support an entire ginormous Skyscraper!! If not MORE then this. And yeah, big green is also far more then just a primal monster.

[@catiloh6086]

This is Child Compassionate Savage Hulk not Adult Angry Bitter Savage Hulk even the personalities have inconsistencies sometimes especially with Savage Hulk being so different with many incarnations like the one who was separated from Banner after fighting Onslaught and went on to man handle Gladiator was a Bitter Adult like Savage Hulk

[@alissa6]

@@catiloh6086 That's called Bannerless Hulk. He's ridiculously powerful.

[@WeaponXSigma]

More people tend to sleep on the first fact rather than the second but people still forget about the second fact as well

[@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398]

@@alissa6, Without inhibitors, Yeah he still becomes immensely powerful.

[@BovineDesigns]

That ending was so great, I love seeing Hulk even in his most animalistic state have compassion for people.

[@DJWingoYT]

Yeah thats why the character works

[@jimkid1392]

There's still a human in there. "Banner is strongest of them all"

[@alissa6]

@@jimkid1392 Indeed. Remove Banner and he becomes the emotionless "personafication of rage", there'll be no one inside of him to limit his strength. The most powerful version of Hulk.

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

I agree bro, this is one of my favorite versions of Hulk, how I always see him in my head basically.

[@basimali619]

@@alissa6 kinda ironic, cuz the most powerful hulk is created when banner and hulk are one(green scar)

[@ias787]

This is how it should be. Spider-Man shouldn’t be stronger than hulk, BUT the fact that he could give him a good fight shouldn’t be ignored.

[@ethanb6539]

No not at all Peter fought a weak hulk

[@ias787]

@@ethanb6539 that’s savage green hulk. Very much the most famous hulk and one of the strongest versions of hulk

[@ethanb6539]

@@ias787 nope green scar n base immortal hulk is the strongest savage was the strongest 10 years ago

[@ias787]

@@ethanb6539 i never said he is the strongest version of hulk. I said ONE of the strongest version of the hulk

[@ethanb6539]

@@ias787 not when he first starts off Tho it takes time for him to reach the level of power speed etc of wat you’re thinkin of

[@pbdye1607]

"I'm pissed off, so let me use *The Hulk* as a stress ball." Smart, Petey.

[@caffeinedelusions]

Peter is a genius, but he's not always all that sensible.

[@maylabrown4584]

Actually that would be the best bet, not many Heroes around that can handle him going completely all out and in the back of his mind he did know that The Hulk was good.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

@@maylabrown4584 Well I”d prefer my stress balls to not break my hands when I hit them too much.

[@maylabrown4584]

@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Well if you had a Healing Factor that can casually heal broken bones (especially knuckles) then I doubt that'd be much of a problem.

[@Sheep.]

Ah yes, common sense 100.

[@obsidianfrost9514]

I don't know if many noticed but toward the end of the fight. Hulk legit just let Spidey vent. He stood there and took it. While he ranted about finding MJ. Fucking love the compassion that hulk showed

[@calebstephan2083]

Yeah. Hulk could've bodied spiderman at any point of this fight but he didn't because he didn't want to hurt him and just tried to get spiderman to leave. At the end when he realized spiderman was hurting emotionally he just let spiderman hit him until he calmed down. Hulk didn't even budge when spiderman kept hitting him towards the end and spiderman just ended up hurting his own hands.

[@obsidianfrost9514]

@@calebstephan2083 yeah hulk here was very compassionate. Even mentioned he lost his own wife pretty sure that's why hulk didn't rage he felt a bond with Spidey. Spidey was also for quite some time one of the few who was able to talk an enraged hulk down. Hulk defiently could of bodies Spidey but just wanted to be left alone

[@urusledge]

Right? I hate when writers try to make the Hulk some super dark, almost demonic creature that's barely on the right side, if he even is. This was always the Hulk. Misunderstood, constantly tragedy-stricken, temperamental, but never truly a monster at heart. Just wants people to be nice to him or leave him alone. Why make it something other than that?

[@truecreation8803]

@@calebstephan2083 not really. Hulk would find it impossible to land a hit on spidey. If these two fought for real then it would be a stalemate as spidey can’t hurt hulk and hulk can’t hit spidey.

[@obsidianfrost9514]

@@truecreation8803 wrong hulk is deceptively fast and has bested Spidey countless times but Spidey cand go toe to toe for at least a bit

[@trexrising4097]

"Bug Man's Wife Dead? Hulk's Wife Dead Too. Hulk Sorry." ;_;

[@lightninggaming016]

Even hulk understand what spiderman going through

[@-boondoggle-6134]

I know that feeling man.

[@kristian7316]

I’m sorry truly about that.

[@DepressedFishey123]

I love that hulk didn't hold it against him.

[@thanoskitsos5710]

​@Shak actually yes he didn't. He even said that he is strong

[@darkclaw1462]

I like how it's clear that Peter can't really keep up with Hulk in strength, but he's using everything else to his advantage to keep the big guy at bay and always have the maintain the advantage.

[@thatdudemin3139]

no spiderman just holds back all of his strength he could punch through hulks head if he wanted to at any moment

[@maguserebus4950]

@@thatdudemin3139 No he couldn't. Spider-Man has like 20-30tons at best in lifting strength, whereas the Savage Hulk(the normal green Hulk that most comics feature) has 70tons lifting strength before he gets more by getting angry. Hulk's durability is almost equal to his strength so Spider-Man with his 20-30ton serious punches wouldn't do much apart from bruising Hulk.

[@nekogamer2508]

@@maguserebus4950 so how did he lift a bunch of underwater supporting beams They most definitely weigh a over 2,000 tons each beam

[@ghostbravo7127]

@@thatdudemin3139 Hulk can regenerate his heart entirely in mere seconds, he can go toe to toe with sentry as sentry unleashes his full power, he could simply crush Peters brain with his grip. Peter holds back a lot for sure, but not even peter is a match for the Hulk if he lets go.

[@playerback7722]

There are guidebooks and narrator statements of Spidey going toe to toe with characters out of his power class.

[@caffeinedelusions]

Hulk comes out of this looking pretty good. The instant empathy that cuts through the rage, the knowledge that sometimes the best thing he can do is let the other guy work through the thing locking them down emotionally. The complete lack of a grudge at being attacked and pained because he recognizes that it's coming from the other guy also being in pain. Yeah, Hulk comes out of this looking good.

[@David_Scar]

This.👍

[@whateverwhatever4476]

Yeah,Hulk comes out looking better funny enough

[@willeysingleton3057]

As stan lee has put it we are all the hulk a rage of emotion one minute a caculated scientist the next. Spider man has always been my favorite but hulk. Hulk is always my second i relate to them both every day of my life..

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Ok

[@supremememe4340]

This is the kind of story telling skills that I love to see.

[@____________838]

Spidey really needed that. Anyone else he would have shredded in that mindset. But the Hulk could take it…

[@patrickshelley09]

Thor, Classic Juggs, Blue Marvel, Sentry, etc, all could easily take Spidey's best shots and just shrug.

[@____________838]

@@patrickshelley09 anyone that he deals with deals with on the norm. Also I’m fairly certain that the Sentry hadn’t been created as of that storyline.

[@itzangel_yt40]

@@patrickshelley09 I think he could at least make those head go back

[@josephwolfe9681]

Spidey is stupid levels of strong but I put him just in the heavy hitters club not on the same level as hulk or Thor. Spidey has held up buildings before but hulk and Thor have held up Manhattan

[@portaldud344]

@@patrickshelley09 surprisingly one of the few people to have beaten juggernaut it Spider-Man but it wasn’t a just a straight one on one battle and Spider-Man had an upper hand

[@ThatGuyRjRox17]

He's fought everyone from the Hulk to the F4 to the Avengers and even X-men. Nobody still has manage to sqaush that bug. -Wolverine probably

[@byronmeir1240]

Doc Ock was the first villain to give Spider-Man an L,But Peter was also young and overconfident cause nobody could beat him at the time..That fight really humble him.

[@blkshredder-x5681]

Haha nope not wolverine either. Fighting wolverine is a nightmare to a lot of ppl but spiderman gave wolverine nothing but L 's too every time they clashed.

[@Vulcan23]

@@blkshredder-x5681 He's using the dash to quote, saying this is probably something wolverine would say

[@blkshredder-x5681]

@@Vulcan23 sounds more like suggesting a possible match but I already stated the fact above. So far the only heroes I know gave him the most L's are Spiderman and Black Panther. He tangles with the Hulk a lot but slipped some W's here and there so...

[@Vulcan23]

@@blkshredder-x5681 literally no one is disagreeing Im just saying no one asked -Peter Quill probably

[@ghosttheprogram6973]

This is why Spiderman books were the best The small moments like these I miss when marvel writing was so good it'd make me pause everything else just to read Another great one done today

[@ethanb6539]

2021 killed comics sorry

[@albertolunghi4947]

I happened to read this story when it was released around 2000. It is one of the last episodes written by Howard Mackie before leaving "The amazing Spider-Man" to Strackzynski (right spelling, I hope). Mackie was considered the worst ASM main storyteller in that period. I'm glad someone else is enjoying these stories of his, which I liked when I first read them. I don't mean Mackie was the greatest ASM runner of all time. I mean he was far better than those who came afer Strackzynski, in my humble opinion.

[@Gabe600]

@@ethanb6539 not really ever heard about Immoral Hulk?

[@ethanb6539]

@@Gabe600 yes really n immortal hulk was the best run of 2020 n 2021 your not makin any points

[@NO-vd1mh]

For real though, this one really made me FEEL, like such powerful actions and words expressed in a "simple" yet complete way. Truly love these Spiderman books (also really like Hulk, reminds me of my late father, was his favourite marvel character).

[@thewolfwhocries]

Even the HULK acknowledged Spideys strength. What a absolute boss!

[@calebstephan2083]

To be fair hulk has acknowledge multiple heroes strength, not only spidermans. It was still clear in this encounter that hulk was still vastly superior to spiderman. He didn't want to hurt spiderman, he just wanted him to go away. He could've just knocked him out when he grabbed spiderman but he just yelled at him and told him to go away. Heck hulk even stood still and let spiderman hit him towards the end of the fight and hulk didn't budge whereas spiderman just ended up hurting his hand.

[@lightninggaming016]

@@calebstephan2083 ok I think dude know that

[@neelmodi7765]

​@@calebstephan2083 I think a better representation of it is that spiderman is on the level of normal hulk if not slightly stronger, but enraged hulk is a decent amount stronger

[@aperson3723]

⁠@@neelmodi7765 but that’s not the case now is it.

[@neelmodi7765]

@@aperson3723 if you mean the MCU then no

[@thehippie3610]

Hulk and Spiderman are legit friends. Not just Banner, but HULK and Spiderman. It's actually kinda sweet.

[@michaelgilbert7489]

The ending is really wholesome, it shows that when heroes are in conflict it doesn't always have to end in someone getting beaten

[@B_bang22]

@Sonic cough cough civil war

[@chaosspider5765]

@@B_bang22 cough cough Batman V Superman

[@pkphantom]

The fact that Hulk went from a blind rage to a sympathetic smolder that quickly after realizing that he was processing his wife's supposed death is equally heart warming and heartbreaking

[@yoboibeerus1387]

That's how a fight between Spiderman and Hulk should look like.

[@RandomPerson-co2qy]

100%. amazing fight

[@alicepbg2042]

yeah. his agility and spidersense can help him dodge at least most attacks, but it's not like he's really damaging the hulk at all

[@FilthyFrankenjoyer]

He surely isn't as strong as Hulk can get, but Spider-Man strength is the most underrated thing in Marvel.

[@shadowtrooper4435]

Yes. Definitely a wholesome fight. As much as Spider Man is one of my absolute favorites and i will always root for him, I know the Hulk will always be the epitome of raw power. Spider Man is not incapable of hurting the hulk in minuscule ways, hitting him at weak points, breaking an extremity or even, under extreme circumstances, maybe a limb ...maybe. But we know he would certainly die at the hands of a raging Hulk. It's unfortunate, but it's facts. I love that the writers keep this in mind and let the Hulk just allow Peter to alleviate his stress.

[@jlopez240gaming7]

What’s funny is. Peter and hulk are actually really close friends in most media I find them in wether it be comics movies or shows other than the mcu I really like their dynamic

[@voltbot1887]

….huh…i never thought of it like that before? thanks man.

[@ElRicky]

I hope in the movies hulk remembers Peter not Bruce the monster hulk it will be very wholesome to see hulk taking him under his wing and help each other out

[@captainchinatoo]

@@ElRicky there is no hulk in the movie it’s just smart hulk now

[@neelmodi7765]

​@@ElRicky oh right, wasn't there a comic really similar to the thing in the MCU where hulk remembered spiderman after something happened? Idk I forgot most of the stuff about it

[@poggy2904]

@@captainchinatoo I thought it was a fine idea at first.. But now i kinda feel robbed.

[@ThePathStrider]

Hulk understands rage better than anyone; how it distorts your reality, how it consumes you, and how you give it release.

[@samsonjack362]

Spider-Man should never beat the Hulk by brawn but he could beat him by brains and having the hulk call him strong puts in perspective how powerful he is

[@ias787]

Exactly

[@ethanb6539]

Nope and the hulk he fought gets bodied by the thing

[@michaelgarcia5680]

@@ethanb6539 the thing ain’t weak and has been fighting hulk for years. Hell he’s even fought Thor and Surfer. The thing deserves some form of respect.

[@aspectofdecay007]

yeah i always wondered...how much strong is thing anyways

[@ethanb6539]

@@michaelgarcia5680 the thing got taken down by shang chi and the fights you’ll talkin bout are either old or the character wasn’t going all out now in a vs battle the thing wouldn’t be weak as he can fight on par wit devil hulk but in marvels consistently wit power he’s spiderman level deal wit it

[@sirhotdog6220]

“Bug man wife dead? Hulk wife dead too. Hulk sorry.” God DAMN! That hit the feels!

[@hassankamara244]

Not really

[@kingMadnus]

Because Spider-Man is meant to be so agile he’s drawn in a way that gives most comic book readers the impersonation that he is not very strong when in reality he stronger than most of the marvel superheroes he just doesn’t use it because he’s not trying to hurt people

[@realamericannegro977]

Spiderman is not stronger than most. He is stronger than characters like Captian America or others in that kinda league. He doesn't rank in the top 10 or 50 in strength. I dont listen to guide books because in the prime they said he was a kid so he would get stronger but they dont really write him correctly.

[@kingMadnus]

@@realamericannegro977 You do understand that there are a lot of marvel characters that don’t have super powers but I like ninjas and white that or that do have superpowers and they are not on the same strength level as Spider-Man right?

[@caffeinedelusions]

There was a time in Marvel where Spider-man was literally #3 on the physical strength scale after Hulk and Thing. That was after Thor had been introduced. The cast has grown since then, and a few characters have inserted themselves into the rankings above Spidey, but the number of named Marvel characters above him is still far smaller than the number of named Marvel characters below him.

[@kingMadnus]

@@caffeinedelusions Also people keep forgetting that most of the other marvel characters have been portrayed in their physical peak where is Spider-Man is always supposed to be portrayed as the 15 year old kid he’s always been or at least mostly portrayed as young growing into a superhero look at the movies besides Rami most of them based around him in high school. The time of his most iconic villains. But in reality Spider-Man is really at his best when he’s an adult doing adult shit.

[@calebstephan2083]

He isn't stronger than most marvel superheroes but he is among the strongest out of the street level heroes. I can literally name over ten heroes that can blow up planets and that's just the heroes I know of, their could be more. I love spiderman but nah fam.

[@Redgrave2442]

The fact hulks blind rage vanished upon seeing Peter’s own rage and reasoning shows that he isn’t just a mindless monster. He understands, it’s just that nobody has ever took to time to understand him

[@dc1397]

Two of my favorite scenes of Spider-Man were against Jigsaw and Morbius. Both considered him like a relentless demon in pursuit. Jigsaw was scared crapless because he couldn't get away in spite of shooting at him. Spider-Man quietly hunted him down from the shadows. Morbius was basically the same deal but in the sewers. Deathly afraid of Spider-Man again and got taken down. I would love Marvel to do a series from a Villain's perspective after Spider-Man gets his sights set on them and name the series Relentless. A minor baddy with an organization like Tarantula.

[@gannielukks1811]

Back in Black, Spider-Man vs Kingpim was great too

[@AaronChristopher869]

... Morbius?? It's morbin time

[@SpiderGamerXxx]

For fuck's sake, I can't take Morbius serious anymore because of the memes. I hate myself

[@KingOfTheMonsters07]

@@SpiderGamerXxx BRROOOOO SAMMMMEEEE!!!

[@SploogeCannon]

What comic do these two occur?

[@genociderex93imperator84]

Okay, I actually cried at the end. Comics usually don't get me emotional, but when Hulk or Spider-Man are involved, they have the most compassion towards people, and it gets me when Hulk revealed his wife died too, and they should set aside their differences and save the train.

[@Katakuri564]

that is what he meant by: “i stopped pulling my punches i got rageful i got bitter’’

[@RonellTKE]

This was a dope fight. And Hulk is one of the most misunderstood heros he has compassion and always thinks about going away from people rather then cause damage although in some fights you can't help it cuz the villains are what they are. Spider-Man is one of the greatest heros of all time and him and hulk teaming up......fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

Yeah man this comic was a nice memory for me too ! Had to post it !

[@cgamejewels]

I never understood why when hulk says leave him alone, no one does. This shows the amount of damage that is done when anyone tries to "stop" Hulk. When Hulk is not antagonized or in danger, he calms down. When the Avengers, Spiderman, Fury or the other heroes try to "stop" Hulk by attacking him, he becomes more angry and stronger. Who's gonna pay for all the damages they cause. Why not handle the situation like an adult? Nobody wants to be attacked when they're upset. When our friends and family are upset, we don't attack them. We try to help them. I'm sure Hulk would appreciate a hug or some comforting words. Something other than cars being hurled at him or missiles.

[@MartyrisBisclavret]

The comedy is that Tony Stark calls out the military on this EXACT THING in the comics. He basically makes a bet with General Ross that if he's put in command of the military force deployed for Hulk attacks, Hulk's property damage will go from the billion-dollar-range to pocket change and his approach will singlehandedly save the military budget. His strategy? When the Hulk starts roaring and squaring up, just have the military sit there and watch. Hulk does more roaring, the military does nothing, Hulk smashes a street to show off his power, the military does nothing. Hulk just... has nothing to feed off. He's used to them attacking him, but once it's clear they're not doing anything? He just jumps away, confused and harmless. Tony pays for the damage to the street out of pocket. And NO-ONE LEARNS FROM THIS.

[@whateverwhatever4476]

@@MartyrisBisclavret HA! That’s hilarious. Where can I read that?

[@livelife4928]

@@MartyrisBisclavret exactly what to expect from the government in the world of Marvel. Always screwing stuff up and never learning from their mistakes.

[@rastasrosco1318]

If only they realised what exactly he is - TOAA's counterweight - destined to destroy everything and anyone that was ever created. Thankfully even Hulk does not realise that. All these idiots keep prodding him and one day the collateral could just go mega.

[@sentientbeing8738]

@@livelife4928 Shit thats what I expect from every real government.

[@cvernon5256]

The Hulk deserves a great deal of credit here. That was cool, to see him just take the punishment because he knows the pain present and is doing what he can to help. That's great patience from someone that isn't touted as being patient and the same of kindness.

[@SwagimirPutin]

This is why I like these characters. Spider-Man is actually insanely strong when put in the right circumstance. Not saying he could deal with The Hulk on any level of strength in an extended fight, but he has way more strength than he lets on or maybe even knows himself. It's his loyalty to loved ones and innocents in danger that lets it spike to the levels you see in the comics. But then there's The Hulk who is exponentially and quite obviously stronger than 'Bug Man' but he still has a heart even when he is a rage-fuelled monster. The MCU should adapt this into future films, except that The Hulk is kind of ruled out at this point.

[@madias1884]

spiderman is basically stronger than captain america

[@SwagimirPutin]

​@@madias1884 Spider-Man is stronger than Captain America. Given certain circumstances, he gets even stronger.

[@danarud3471]

Yea I’m one slide he managed to pluck hulks fingers/grip off him and jump away

[@madias1884]

@Dmarcus Pineda depends on which ver u talking about. if u talking abt teenage peter then yes capt is a better fighter and tactician but adult peter, capt losses hard

[@TheKyrix82]

MCU should let Hulk be. He's HAPPY. Let him havevthat

[@willpowerrazorblade6436]

Hulk always had a soft spot in his heart for spider Man.

[@thanoskitsos5710]

to be fair they are the same in how they got their powers . both are gamma radiation warriors

[@neelmodi7765]

​@@thanoskitsos5710 I didn't know Spiderman's spider had gamma radiation

[@thanoskitsos5710]

@Neel Modi he is . But the way they got it was different. Peter gains spiderlike abilities but banner had his fantastic minded friend take shape to a green monster .

[@kazuha74]

Hulk's a real one, Spidy needed that

[@RAPTOR948]

This got super emotional, and I can see this as one of the times we can see Hulk and Spidey may build a friendship, or even just a simple level of respect for each other. I remember Hulk and Spidey were friends after some point, though this would explain why... Rest in Peace Stan. Your legacy lives on, even after you're gone.

[@VegettoTico2648]

Damn this entire comment section doesn't have a single argument in it, literally everyone is happy with the outcome. Spiderman can't beat Hulk but he aint small game either

[@Haze01Smash]

I was looking for a complaint but I also couldn't find one... so I'll add one here: I don't believe they could have fixed the train track to the degree they did, allowing the train to continue past at high speed without derailing.

[@calebstephan2083]

@@Haze01Smash yeah. The most logical way they could've stopped the train was if hulk just straight up stopped it with his strength. Repairing it in such a short time makes no sense.

[@phoebusapollo8365]

@@calebstephan2083 Invincible train scene would like to have a word with you.

[@karshinp7896]

@Psychometrics spider andrews’s parents plane scene would like to have a word with you

[@saotomebuster]

To put this into perspective: Spiderman once broke a professional boxer’s hand just by flexing on impact. Spiderman‘s fists break and bleed on hulk’s muscles. These gaps in power are similar.

[@calebstephan2083]

Actually hulk and spidermans power is still vastly distanced than that. Hulk when he goes all out nearly wiped out the dark dimension. Dormamus sister got so concerned of the destruction he was causing that she forced strange to send him back to Earth from him to calm down.the only version of spiderman that could keep up with a pissed off hulk is cosmic spiderman but that's spiderman with the uni power which is a source of power that isn't his own. It's a source of power that has used several heroes as hosts.

[@alessandrowarna3237]

@@calebstephan2083 I think he was talking about calm Hulk (100 tonner)

[@rastasrosco1318]

Level 0 Hulk still close to a 150 tonner about 10 x that of Bug Guy.

[@boredguy6970]

@Call of Gruty Even Though guide books put Spiderman’s stats at around 20 Tons and “calm” Hulk at around 100 Tons, the actual numbers are higher than that by atleast 10 folds. The Handbooks were just oversimplifying things. But Hulk could get stronger than that. Like Trillions of Tons strong. So while it might be fair to say Spiderman could put up a good fight agaisnt a Base Hulk, it’s definitely an exaggeration to say Spiderman could beat Hulk outright no matter what because Hulk’s full potential when he’s angry is far above Peter.

[@yobama6052]

@@boredguy6970 he lifts more than 20 tons dont trust those kinda books because every body writes spider man different

[@lebronjames1474]

You could tell at the end clearly that the Hulk was never trying.

[@My6119]

Neither was Chris Bosh

[@teamurion2734]

@@My6119 lmfao I see what you did there that's so fucked up 😂😂😂😂

[@playerback7722]

Hulk gave up after Spidey mentioned his wife

[@obsidianfrost9514]

Hulk didn't want to kill Spidey. He was annoyed. When Peter started venting about Mary Jane hulk just took it. The last few panels where hulk just taking it. It puts it into perspective that hulk was stronger physically, but also funnily enough emotionally at that moment. Spidey looked good the whole fight than the last few panels was hulk evening the play field really good comic imho

[@gannielukks1811]

@@obsidianfrost9514 But Spider-Man didn't want to kill Hulk too

[@thatonegamerguy1781]

I love Hulk and Spider-Mans relationship, they're good friends, even when they first really met, Hulk realized Spider-Man was hurting early on and let him get out his frustrations and anger and pain by being his personal punching bag... they're just great to see together and I enjoy there encounters

[@Doom.Bot.Latveria]

hulk letting spider man take out his anger because he knows he can take it is such a sincere thing, its always fun to see your favorites fight, but it’s something special seeing them be there for each other, this was an amazing issue

[@AKBOXING-13-1]

World war hulk storyline just hits even harder now. All hulk wants is to be left alone that’s it. He said he tried making friends and they are either scared or turn on him.

[@kimbelsimpson7535]

You see Hulk is really not a bad guy he just looses it when people constantly mess with him when all he wants to be is left alone.

[@andrewjustice5198]

The number one thing that I love about super heroes is that no matter what conflict they have with each other, in the end, they will put their differences aside to help those in danger.

[@theunknownsamurai7426]

I love the friendship between Spiderman and the Hulk. It seems like spiderman is the only person hulk will allow to perch on his shoulder.

[@daniaalkhan4702]

Spiderman really is an underrated powerhouse

[@hiramalba4645]

Yes.

[@playerback7722]

Agreed

[@windandcloudshadow158]

I think he's rated just fine where he is.

[@hiramalba4645]

@@windandcloudshadow158 Not very underrated

[@sacredpower7530]

@@windandcloudshadow158 No

[@angryman1206]

I'd like to remind everyone that the reason Mary Jane went missing was because Peter had lied to her. He had claimed to have given up being Spider-Man but was still stepping out.

[@mediatorraptor3349]

But why was Hulk blamed for crashing an airplane?Who was it?

[@lindarozalinda7177]

Because his comics in 90s was awful. They treated MJ and Peter as shit

[@daverhoden445]

Actually it was because she was kidnapped. The fight about the lie just gave the kidnapper an opportunity.

[@angryman1206]

@@daverhoden445 which doesn't change the fact that peter betrayed her trust.

[@deviondalton837]

I love how hulk even acknowledges how strong Spider-Man is

[@Leenheavy]

Spider-Man and hulk in the comics is always a duo I loved a lot, they always come around to respect each other (even tho hulk can be stupid most of the time) they always made me smile and always had good chemistry imo

[@-gj3nu]

Hulk was annoyed at start but took the hits easily after realising what Spidey was going through Spider man is strong but dont underestimate hulk he holds back a lot in these types of situations Well not so smart in strats but he could just stand still the entire time and wait for an opening to grab Spidey and then get him with 2-3 of his heaviest moves

[@calebstephan2083]

One of hulks heaviest blows could kill spiderman. Hulk once when he was serious cracked Thors skull with a single punch. Thor is way more durable than spiderman. If hulk wanted to he could've straight up chucked spiderman across the city.

[@BlackKingArmory]

What's crazy is Spiderman always fights people and comes out on top or not dead when he's supposed to example being Hercules and Juggernaut

[@Mannyhdz0052]

​@@calebstephan2083 depends on how strong the hulk is at the moment because it varies

[@hwhw-s4v]

@@Mannyhdz0052 tbh hulk was always stronger than thor one serious punch and thor ded

[@Stallion-EC]

"Hulk HELP bug man." I think this is by far my fav comic line of all time tbh fams.

[@DW9427]

I just love how Spider-Man casually did a JoJo style flurry of punches on Hulk near the end.

[@goldenswag3449]

its not everyday the spider-man gets to go all out and not hold back. he really needed that

[@chrisbera7952]

i had a Spiderman comic in the 70s where he was swinging through NY city and came upon the hulk having a rampage. Spiderman then attacked him so fast and threw so many punches that it caught Hulk off guard and it knocked him out! I've long since lost that comic, but I haven't been able to find it online. Anyone remember that one?

[@realamericannegro977]

I remember him saying he staggered the Hulk and it either broke his hand or it nearly did it. Spiderman was much better back in the 70s

[@obsidianfrost9514]

He bit him in the temple repeatedly and did break his hand. He mentions he got lucky and was able to catch him by surprise. It was a good comic because hulk later remembers him for doing that called him strong.

[@realamericannegro977]

@@obsidianfrost9514 ok. This was before they started hiring fanboys to write for characters to make them over powered at convenient moments. Comics were better back then.

[@obsidianfrost9514]

@@realamericannegro977 yeah inconsistency in comics is really annoying. Having someone perform a feat out of their normal range sometimes makes sense because adrenaline is a hell of a drug. But they do it to often and then retcon that feat a few issues later

[@realamericannegro977]

@@obsidianfrost9514 what oisses me off the most is how Spiderman can do this to the Hulk and struggle with Kingpin after he oneshotted a T Rex only to act like he can't harm Hulk in any way nnow. i think comics stories should end to have better consistency

[@SubzeroBlack68]

The music fits so well funnily enough. A Giant monster vs a high mobility opponent that swings around

[@lightninggaming016]

Lol sounds about right accept this monster don't eat humans on a regular basis

[@thequestion2859]

There was an issue of Daredevil where he fought the Hulk even though he knew had absolutely no chance of winning. It was a great story, I believe one of Frank Miller's first on the character

[@jonzwikk1582]

yes i remember that issue. Realistic outcome of DD vs Hulk

[@edwardgarza3776]

I knew there was no way spider man was gonna win but damn he put up one hell of a fight.

[@rokomarkov3077]

Lol Spiderman broke his hands while the Hulk wasnt even trying

[@simonviklund991]

@@rokomarkov3077 so?

[@rokomarkov3077]

@@simonviklund991 Im saying that wasnt a fight

[@outsmartyouroutsmarting467]

@@rokomarkov3077 Bruh Spidey hurt the Hulk that's already amazing

[@rokomarkov3077]

@@outsmartyouroutsmarting467 Yes but he cant beat him

[@----x-----]

man can't help but feel bad for Hulk at the start, dude just wanted to be alone, but Spiderman had it really rough at that time, even Hulk could tell. Spiderman put a good fight but it's Hulk, he's not gonna win that with brute force. How they both work together in the end was very wholesome. overall this is like peak comics, what they can be at their best like back in the day

[@GhostHyperhex]

This is why Spider-Man is my favorite hero. Moments like these highlight his character

[@CaptainFALKEN]

Whenever Spidey gets genuinely angry, he doesn't hold back. Never seen a weak angry spider-man. Battle is usually over in a few seconds, since Spider-Man has already made a plan of where he wants you and what he's going to do to you before you can say oops

[@gregorybenjaminiii8501]

Spider-Man: why would i pay for therapy when i can punch the hulk for free Hulk: 🙄 why can't i ever have some peace and quiet

[@sebastianjack2341]

Old comics are the truly golds in these days

[@mrinfinity5557]

Spiderman's entire motivation this fight: "the hulk is a menace, a criminal!"

[@Thickolas]

"Hulk understand, Bug-man. Hulk also sometimes find hulkself lashing out at others due to misplaced grief."

[@Handsomeguy-kj2jg]

Everything about this fight was great. The emotions, the dialogue. Really cool

[@dedrain81]

Woah whoever wrote really understands Hulk and Spidey a ton. Hulk especially.

[@tek512]

Hulk being the absolute unit he should always have been written as. He wasn't always just some rage monster. He knows pain, and he knows compassion. He knows what it's like to grieve better than almost any character in Marvel. Most of all, he *definitely* understands better than anyone how, sometimes, the only way to let it all out is to completely lose yourself in the rage and pain. Bottling it up just destroys you from the inside, as he's learned. After all, he's had a front row seat to all that Banner's repressed emotions have wrought.

[@ef-jkota3611]

When I think of two heroes fighting this is what I envision, sure they might hate each other but when someones is about to get hurt they'll throw away there differences and help those in need.

[@danielhaire6677]

Hulk always had more compassion than he was given credit for. As Amadeus Cho pointed out, if he hadn't been compassionate and also used Banner's intellect on at least a subconscious level, then Hulk would have one of the worst body counts out there.

[@nickcampbell3812]

Hard to believe someone as big as the Hulk and leave without Spidy noticing. Never thought the big guy could be so stealthy.

[@VorpalSw0rd]

i adore this version of hulk he just wanted to be left alone and even after all that when he heard his wife might be dead hulk was still sorry holy shit fuck the she hulk show so hard man

[@AttackZola]

People fail to realize spider man holds back but with the hulk he doesn’t have to

[@JustTheInformationPlease]

This art makes this suit look so good

[@actionman9451]

Everyone thinks Hulk is just a monster but underneath all that rage he has compassion love and generally doesn’t mean or want to hurt others at all.

[@Tynat8989]

Armored titans theme gives me goosebumps everytime

[@yaqinmalul1364]

I remember apt after that song play

[@Tynat8989]

@@yaqinmalul1364 apt? I don't understand, sorry, i am dumb 😂😂

[@ItsskipppermyG]

@@Tynat8989 nah he meant aot, the o and p are close to each other on the keyboard

[@yaqinmalul1364]

@@ItsskipppermyG thx

[@ItsskipppermyG]

@@yaqinmalul1364 np

[@phenomenal-xv4ey]

Back when heroes could disagree and still work together. This is how they should do Hulk, show how powerful and indestructible he can be, but how he can also be helpful when need be. Just like he held up that mountain in Secret Wars.

[@SuperMatthew345]

Wow, I had no idea hulk wasn't just a rampaging brute. Spiderman shows up swinging, blinds him, and hulk stops mid fight to give his condolences. I absolutely love it.

[@AnSlabder]

Yeah he's really poorly characterized in the movies

[@BustaBonezMike]

hulk is like the big bro that you can come vent to about anything

[@Vicefromkof]

Man, those comics had such a good art style to roll on.

[@rustytongs4474]

This is why I have to start reading original comics! I’ve only ever watched the Spiderman and the hulk movies so reading what they say isn’t the same as an actor reading a script, it’s just a story written by one person and reading allows you to picture how they really feel like. And I feel like having the hulk talk during his scenes in movies would’ve really added to the character.

[@roxannearmstrong6585]

It took awhile in the comics befor hulk said much other then hulk smash hulk strongest you puny or leave hulk alone like literally every few years he would add a new word to his arsenal lol hulks been around awhile

[@David_Scar]

@@roxannearmstrong6585 that's false,Hulk has always been able to talk since the beginning.. it's the movies and new mediums that potray him has not being able to speak.

[@echosmoon5605]

Aot theme goes freakin hard af with Spider-Man comics

[@whosasking209]

Hulk was just trying to get away n chill,but spidey like bug he is

[@malkeus6487]

That scene where he's beating on Hulk and Hulk is just watching is something else.

[@michaelrunk5930]

This is one my favorite issues ever. I been looking for this issue for a long time. I actually cried when I read this issue. Just Hulk reaction to see Peter on pain made this so much better. Hulk deep down is big softy. If every one could see who he really is they wouldn't fear him they embrace him. All though the people kind did during World War Hulk. I think people were pretty much sick of the heroes after Civil War. When Hulk came along and put them in their place they cheered him on. Any way such a great issue.

[@mediatorraptor3349]

What issue is this?

[@aroanfallen8160]

@@mediatorraptor3349 I think he's talking about WW Hulk.

[@daverhoden445]

"MAN KILLED BAMBI'S MOTHER!!!!" --- Anyone else remember that issue of Defenders?

[@thibautisserant]

I love the instant Spidey sees danger, he tries to help. It sounds obvious but few heroes make a point to save *everyone* like he does (or try to at least)

[@invadernik]

its stories like this that remind me why hulk is so loved

[@thequietman9820]

Hull is all emotion, so when he feels a different emotion towards someone, he shows it his all

[@BabaNamKevalamGames]

that bad ass hulk.. Always demonstrating he is better than anyone can see him.

[@hamsterminator]

Nice to see Hulk with some personality.

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

Yes, this might be my favorite version of him !

[@burlone4342]

I wish we got more of this Hulk.

[@petestrong7434]

Hulk is friend we all need dude understands sorrow and pain like no other 😭 I loved watching my jolly green giant be chill as Spidey just threw punch after punch in my head hulk is thinking " punch bug man hulk not move hulk not hit back hulk understands😔"

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

I believe it was after this fight that the Hulk described Spider-Man’s punches as feeling like being shot by Artillery.

[@Jacknife17shadows]

Hulk just there eating those punches for a light snack.

[@sunwukong3108]

**I love how he put the Attack on Titan soundtrack** 😂😂

[@SunelSamurai]

noticed that too LOL

[@ricaard]

While reading this, I asked myself, "Has Hulk ever said sorry?" And then a couple pages later, *IT HAPPENED!* Wow. 😳🤯😭

[@imupinthetrees]

hulk spiderman wolverine and daredevil are like my childhood

[@intention21]

Spidey thanked hulk for not getting rid of him. And also for understanding him

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

He beat Hulk not with the strength of his blows but with the strength of his character. Bravo, little spider

[@GhostGamer25]

An excellent job of music based on the comic itself. I do love the idea of spider-man losing control, while he let his own power be down on default (instead venom, lizard, rhino, carnage and other big baddies) Shows how much the words "with great power comes with great responsibility" really met.

[@Channel9001]

If Spider-man had just talked with the Hulk, Hulk would have probably just explained the situation and empathized with Spider-Man's anger and fear. That's the lesson, you should only use fists when words fail.

[@neelmodi7765]

Bro, spiderman wasn't thinking rationally. That's the point, he was basically constantly in panic mode and was taking it out on the hulk

[@neelmodi7765]

My guess is he was holding back until he got hit into the newspaper because spiderman uses qips to occupy his mind, as well as to anger his enemies into making mistakes, but the 2nd option makes no sense so he was probably holding back slightly until then, he also didn't start bleeding until then so it makes sense

[@diogod2347]

This might be an hot take but Spidey and Hulk and make SUCH a good duo

[@ifanythingiwant]

"The Sinister Seventy Five Thousand," lol.

[@user-bj8mm4lv6b]

Even Hulk acknowledged that Spider-Man is strong

[@ThatBugBehindYou]

Peter: Hey big guy, you gotta stop Hulk: HULK NO NEED STOP, HULK WANT PEOPLE STOP FOLLOWING HIM, HULK WANT BE LEFT ALONE Peter: yeah, okay, alright, okay, SO DO I JACKASS, YOU THINK YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO WANTS TO BE LEFT ALONE Hulk: oh, gee wiz, I guess I hadn't thought about that, carry on then

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

Peter:….all these years and you were able to speak in first person this whole time? Hulk: the first point was nice but you’re _really_ getting yourself right back onto the smashing block Peter: ya figured. see ya! *web slings away*

[@umcaraqualquer3640]

You summed up this ehole fight, basically lol