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@xavierkazoo1619
@xavierkazoo1619 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always liked stories that make J. Jonah Jameson a good guy. He’s always been against Spiderman as a Vigilante but when he’s depicted as a real person capable of understanding that SpiderMan is a person, especially a person he could almost care about Jameson becomes a complicated and very interesting character to me.
@llewtree3013
@llewtree3013 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve really enjoyed jj knowing peters secret identity and helping him of late it’s been awesome, jj is a great character with a surprising amount of depth
@reduxpulse8835
@reduxpulse8835 3 жыл бұрын
That's why I loved Jonah in the Ultimate Spiderman run
@tcrpgfan
@tcrpgfan 3 жыл бұрын
@@reduxpulse8835 JJ at his best is a good but very flawed character. If there were a version I'd prefer, it'd be one where the reason why he's so harsh to spidey and, masked heroes in general, is that he actually wants them to hold themselves to a higher standard. Where he actually goes after Spider-Man in particular because he picked up that Spidey is more of a 'Protect the Innocent' than a 'Punish the Guilty' kind of hero unlike so many of the other NYC-based street-level Marvel heroes.
@aurorablaize
@aurorablaize 3 жыл бұрын
Well just like the symbiote, Jonah's been through a lot of character development in the main 616 as well, so I feel it would be a disservice to have him being a straight up jerk.
@potato3018
@potato3018 2 жыл бұрын
JJ has always been a good man. Ok lets look at his perspective, a man in red with sharp eyed mask is swinging around and crawling on walls like some kind of poltergeist us hunting down bad guys and trapping them on some sort of string made from a liquid that we dont know and could br toxic for all we know and that super human can throw cars like its nothing and his fighting literally causes damage that could kill hundreds.
@cowboyfedora6290
@cowboyfedora6290 3 жыл бұрын
The Punisher was real quiet when Spider-Man started killing villains in that universe
@harukoharuhara2688
@harukoharuhara2688 3 жыл бұрын
Punisher and spidey have always had a shakey relationship to say the least. I like to think frank was just fine with it, maybe finding some dead spidey rogues thinking “hey, spider dude finally got some balls haha”
@cowboyfedora6290
@cowboyfedora6290 3 жыл бұрын
@@harukoharuhara2688 yeah, I always knew of their relationship, but it would’ve been funny and accurate to see Punisher in the comic and he says “So you finally joined the right side, Spidey”
@luizfigueira5803
@luizfigueira5803 3 жыл бұрын
"Attaboy"
@coletrain411
@coletrain411 3 жыл бұрын
@@confused_isaas HA
@nickanderson412
@nickanderson412 3 жыл бұрын
Frank: "I knew you had it in you, kid."
@Cam-jm9lk
@Cam-jm9lk 3 жыл бұрын
As gruesome as it is, your descriptions are hilarious. “Peter sends his mouth through the back of his head” had me dying.
@lurkingShadows
@lurkingShadows 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that part with Mary Jane giving him the side eye. This man delivers entertainment.
@icyatlasartworks
@icyatlasartworks 3 жыл бұрын
He's like if you mixed Comicstorian with Chiseled Adonis, and honestly, that's not a combination I expected
@applehazeva2739
@applehazeva2739 3 жыл бұрын
@@lurkingShadows xD
@ROXASOWEN
@ROXASOWEN 3 жыл бұрын
i laughed at "all shockers in every universe need to run from venom spider man"
@confused_isaas
@confused_isaas 3 жыл бұрын
@@ROXASOWEN He'll always be chased to the ends of the earth by other Spider-Men, I think I could be the one that warns him before they start the competition to see who gets to him first.
@jarenalfred66
@jarenalfred66 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the little details that show the symbiote caring for peter, like the symbiote isn't bad on it's own, it just takes it's host's traits upon itself so when Aunt May dies it honestly feels guilty and remorsful, then it as well as peter are furious at Hobgoblin, it shows that, even though it wants peter to kill, it still cares for peter
@jarenalfred66
@jarenalfred66 3 жыл бұрын
It's also cool to see Venom's perfect host and symbiosis, eddie could never reach the full potential because he just isn't a perfect match, peter is, it was super cool to see the perfect match reach the max power it could
@DreadlyKnight
@DreadlyKnight 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not necessarily 100% peter tho. The symbiote naturally is aggressive and it amplifies the bad/evil in someone (tho it is resisted… sometimes as eddie brock does) otherwise it would be amplifying peter’s morals too, and especially the morals of someone like captain america.
@evandugas7888
@evandugas7888 3 жыл бұрын
@@DreadlyKnight I think the symbiote and hulk have a lot in common. Both are angry but not really evil. I think it's just that it has no issues hurting or killing those it deems are bad
@DreadlyKnight
@DreadlyKnight 3 жыл бұрын
@@evandugas7888 i mean hulk is entirely different; he is literally based around anger and lack of control. Klyntar are more of a… molded type of character. Specifically venom seems addicted to spiderman’s strength and power as well as his perfect nature as a host. But it still seems he directly feeds on spiderman’s “dark side” and honestly now that im typing this SPOILERS FOR NO WAY HOME THIS IS YOUR WARNING SPOILER ALERT TURN AWAY IF YOU DO NOT WANT NO WAY HOME SPOILERS But the ending to no way home really speaks volumes to peter’s dark side, and how that could really influence the next movie with possibly venom
@AngraMango
@AngraMango 2 жыл бұрын
Im kinda tired of everytime Peter gets to keep the suit it always goes down a dark path. Would be cool if he actually learned to live with it without any drawbacks. Kinda like how flash got the symbiote cleansed on its home planet and it was fully capable of being worn safely without any take over. U just had to keep ur rage in check so it wouldn't reverse. I just wish peter gets to go that far with the venom suit.
@mikesullivan1197
@mikesullivan1197 3 жыл бұрын
Spiderman kills him and "Shocker is shocked" that was pretty great.
@Disanem
@Disanem 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of that one episode in a spider man TV show, where spiderman is wearing the black suit, and he's chasing shocker and hes screaming at shocker that 'HELL CHASE HIM TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH" and it really looks like shocker pissed himself.
@s.o.s.pnaruto9523
@s.o.s.pnaruto9523 3 жыл бұрын
@@Disanem Lol! I said this in the newest comment. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@FookMi69
@FookMi69 3 жыл бұрын
@@Disanem _"GET BACK HERE, SHOCKER!!!"_
@rubymerakibeatz2211
@rubymerakibeatz2211 3 жыл бұрын
@@FookMi69 bruh if it wasn’t a kid show Eddie would’ve caught limbs falling instead
@heyyou9472
@heyyou9472 3 жыл бұрын
@@Disanem i love 90's spider-man cartoons, they really over-did the acting and its amazing
@Naota-00
@Naota-00 3 жыл бұрын
This whole thing just brings to mind otto in Peter's body realizing Peter has been holding back
@Shadowswolf9666
@Shadowswolf9666 3 жыл бұрын
Otto just revoking... Scorpions? Jaw privileges puts in perspective how powerful he is and how much he has been holding back
@applehazeva2739
@applehazeva2739 3 жыл бұрын
Peter is a frickin monster
@miskitoragee6296
@miskitoragee6296 3 жыл бұрын
Superior Spider-Man was cool
@prosackmetheus5409
@prosackmetheus5409 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Spider-Man swapping bodies with Wolverine in Ultimate and Wolverine just casually sending Sabertooth and a whole School Bus several streets away.
@matthewscott1172
@matthewscott1172 3 жыл бұрын
What was this comic series called? I remember reading this, and cannot remember right now
@gbdeck200
@gbdeck200 3 жыл бұрын
Brock: "You took everything from me!" Spider-Man: "I don't even know who you are"
@colboy1fish
@colboy1fish 3 жыл бұрын
I missed the part where that is my problem.
@yfmace42
@yfmace42 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna put some dirt in your eyes.
@themightymikeshow1992
@themightymikeshow1992 3 жыл бұрын
Peter parker + symbiot= pure black air force energy
@585MBA
@585MBA 3 жыл бұрын
Suit came with them. Its a packaged deal lol
@cococolonel
@cococolonel 3 жыл бұрын
Dare we say the Original Black Air Force
@retronerds6884
@retronerds6884 3 жыл бұрын
@@cococolonel yes peter was the og of black air force activity 🤣😭
@Ilikebugs2464
@Ilikebugs2464 3 жыл бұрын
@@retronerds6884 truck-kun is the og
@retronerds6884
@retronerds6884 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ilikebugs2464 how truck-kun the og when black suit spiderman got a whole two decades over him🤣😂
@DRoyale1
@DRoyale1 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I always thought that Venom was the other side of Spider Man…Eddie just happened to have the same goal as the symbiote. With the Symbiote, I believe that Peter’s Venom is more powerful than Eddie’s.
@TywinLannister666
@TywinLannister666 3 жыл бұрын
It isnt. You need to read the more recent developments regarding Eddie and his Klyntar symbiote. He is essentially at 100% syncronization, with an argument to be made that hes well ABOVE 100% syncronized. Its complicated. But Eddie absolutely DWARFS Peter as far as affinity with the Venom symbiote goes. There isnt a gulf between their power levels, theres an actual ocean.
@DRoyale1
@DRoyale1 3 жыл бұрын
@@TywinLannister666 I have read the more recent events…I was saying based on how the symbiote was in the original run and in the past incarnations…the symbiote takes the powers you have and enhances them, eventually completely bonding with its host and taking it over. There was a reason why Venom spun webs and carried a variation of Peter’s spider symbol on his chest. I was just saying that if Peter and the symbiote had bonded the way it and Brock has, since Peter is already a superhuman, the potential for how powerful Peter’s version of Venom could be is more than Brock because he is just human. And the symbiote was busy keeping his cancer in remission while boosting his human potential and giving him spider like abilities. With Peter, none of that, just a full on go.
@TywinLannister666
@TywinLannister666 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRoyale1 Oh I see, you were refercing *that particular time period*. I see what you are saying now, and i'd have to agree. Regardless, some of the feats that Brock has been able to pull off with the Venom symbiote are frankly godlike. Literally godlike. Great stuff.
@Pastamist
@Pastamist 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t Eddie state that symbiotes enhance the strength of their host geometrically or something like that- the stronger the host, the stronger the symbiote makes them?
@TywinLannister666
@TywinLannister666 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pastamist Yeah, I believe thats from a non-canon one shot though. Its an interesting concept, if he means "mathmatically geometric", that would make things very interesting.
@donavanboykin9489
@donavanboykin9489 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about this whole arc is how they actually give Peter a bit of bulk. Makes Spidey look intimidating. He actually looks like Spider-MAN and it’s lit. Also, this entire story was absolutely a 100% Spider-Man done right. I would love for this to be developed into a video game
@Mr.MooMoo-Esq
@Mr.MooMoo-Esq 3 жыл бұрын
While I agree this would make an awesome story, I don’t know if it would be as cool to play as Spider-Man through this. I think it would be cooler to slowly watch it happen from a third person perspective, it would be a cool what if scenario they could do in a dlc with the new Spider-Man 2 since it’s already starring venom, then you could play as miles and slowly watch Peter fall into darkness until he eventually goes from an ally to becoming the final boss
@ub3rfr3nzy94
@ub3rfr3nzy94 3 жыл бұрын
Spider man crossed with a prototype game lol.
@aaronsaulsgiver4621
@aaronsaulsgiver4621 3 жыл бұрын
Ultimate spider man
@brendanjohnson6792
@brendanjohnson6792 3 жыл бұрын
There was a form of this with Spiderman: Web of Shadows, and while it had terrible voice acting and clunky cinematics it was still a pretty good game with it having multiple endings depending on the choices you make with Peter.
@ghxstyn
@ghxstyn 3 жыл бұрын
The beard also makes him look 10x times more badass
@ultimateninja1704
@ultimateninja1704 3 жыл бұрын
When Spiderman doesn't hold back, he's not to be underestimated at *ALL*
@donavanboykin9489
@donavanboykin9489 3 жыл бұрын
He’s deceptively almost as strong as the Hulk (regular) when he doesn’t hold back.
@philswiftdestroyerofworlds1988
@philswiftdestroyerofworlds1988 3 жыл бұрын
@@donavanboykin9489 Yeah it's freaking stupid in regards to some of the feats regular Spider-Man can perform
@chuggaa100
@chuggaa100 Жыл бұрын
@@donavanboykin9489 No, not even close. This is dumb misinformation
@aeronox6189
@aeronox6189 3 жыл бұрын
Is the red text supposed to symbolize himself as Spider-Man telling himself that if he would've done better that he would've saved his loved ones? Because if so then, that would've been some genius writing imo, Like if the Symbiote were portraying itself as Spider-Man's true consciousness then, hot damn, that's absolutely genius.
@Medieva1
@Medieva1 3 жыл бұрын
i think the cc was more alluding to deadpools red text voice that lead to him killing the marvel universe
@irajohnston5160
@irajohnston5160 3 жыл бұрын
Carnage?
@Bobertgrimlin
@Bobertgrimlin 3 жыл бұрын
True
@TheVamxie
@TheVamxie 3 жыл бұрын
Red squares are spidey /black squares vemom
@danthedan415
@danthedan415 3 жыл бұрын
It's mephisto, mephisto had been seen to have a grudge against Peter not just on the 616 but every universe going as far as to alter events so they go as bad as possible ie exactly what happened here and not just that as of late they show his text in red
@xpeter1000
@xpeter1000 3 жыл бұрын
The way they drew this peter is badass, he's built like batman
@ventusvanitas7544
@ventusvanitas7544 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr?
@ventusvanitas7544
@ventusvanitas7544 3 жыл бұрын
@Luc Germain true
@dannyyoroi1955
@dannyyoroi1955 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the beard mustache look
@yoursonisold8743
@yoursonisold8743 3 жыл бұрын
Spidey was always intended to have the physique of an acrobat, not a bodybuilder. Some runs (especially in the muscle mountain 90s) strayed from that. I think he is a bit bulky in Spider's Shadow, but still believable.
@rickard486
@rickard486 3 жыл бұрын
@@yoursonisold8743 Bro I see you in everything I watch lmao
@Sloth510
@Sloth510 3 жыл бұрын
Fisk injected himself with a version of the super soldier serum. Felicias dad knew a super soldier serum formula. Fusk hunted him down and Felicia, he forced pops into making the serum and tested it out on Felicia. And that is how kingpin and black cat got their strength and agility.
@nobodyknowsforsure
@nobodyknowsforsure 3 жыл бұрын
I knew he injected her but I never knew he injected himself. I thought he was mostly pure muscle which was why he was strong.
@jrob4795
@jrob4795 3 жыл бұрын
Nope...you're mistaken on both counts. The Black Cat from the animated series got her powers through the super solider serum, but the mainstream Black Cat got them from Kingpins scientists...Kingpin on the other hand is just abnormally big, and strong.
@jrob4795
@jrob4795 3 жыл бұрын
@@nobodyknowsforsure No, you're absolutely right on the money. Only 9 pounds of Kingpins body is actual fat and he never took the super solider serum...I don't know where he got that from. Ricardo here has his facts all wrong.
@Sloth510
@Sloth510 3 жыл бұрын
@@jrob4795 i guess I'm wrong. I remember reading it somewhere, but it was a few years back. To be honest I wouldn't doubt if it was about the animated series.
@jrob4795
@jrob4795 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sloth510 No harm no foul, sorry for overreacting though, it wasn't that serious lol
@ElEscolta
@ElEscolta 3 жыл бұрын
I really like how JJJ being part of the "Sinister Six" is also kinda referenced in "No Way Hone" where you could believe the six "Sinister Six" was Venom but on closer inspection you could say it was Jonah, as him berating and attacking Pete through the whole movie was much more villainous than we ever seen him be in previous iterations
@HamguyBacon
@HamguyBacon 3 жыл бұрын
all it does is make his life harder
@chuggaa100
@chuggaa100 Жыл бұрын
No, that's really fucking stupid
@mr.voidout4739
@mr.voidout4739 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the symbiote meticulously picks Peter's psyche through moral and philosophical justifications. It sets apart the earlier renditions that mainly show "blacksuit makes you a big bad meanie."
@thehermit8618
@thehermit8618 Жыл бұрын
He also prays on him being stressed and sleep deprived and psychologically attacks him in his sleep. Its like we were witnessing a slow and meticulous psychological reconditioning. It took Peter in one of his lowest moments and abused the cracks in his willpower to slowly break way his morals and ethics, to ket him give into his anger
@roberthill5549
@roberthill5549 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen a good number of comic series breakdowns like this one. This is the first time I've seen your work. I just have to say, you have a flow and flair to your narrative that is exceptional. Very impressive work. I'm glad this was recommended to me, and hope to catch more of these.
@DAZED_VII
@DAZED_VII 3 жыл бұрын
“With great power, comes great punishment.” Woulda been a clean line lol
@flat-seventh
@flat-seventh 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah that would have been sick Simbiote punisher when 😳
@FookMi69
@FookMi69 3 жыл бұрын
@@flat-seventh That’s already happened. There was a What-If? issue where The Punisher bonded with the Venom Symbiote.
@Cid13
@Cid13 3 жыл бұрын
Fiske has fought Cap to a stand still and had legitimate genetic disorders that give him denser bones and stronger muscle fibers than the average human.
@Callsign_Bear
@Callsign_Bear 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, do you mean Fiske can fight as well as Captain America? Damn
@byronrush9802
@byronrush9802 3 жыл бұрын
@@Callsign_Bear yep he just let’s other people fight
@jb3058
@jb3058 3 жыл бұрын
@@Callsign_Bear I don’t think he means fight as well as him since I’m pretty sure Fisk is a brawler and Captain America is more strategic in his blows. But strength wise, yeah.
@LAGator-qu7tc
@LAGator-qu7tc 3 жыл бұрын
Peak human strength super solider vs Thicc Big Boned Bald Boi= Standstill
@thaghozt215
@thaghozt215 3 жыл бұрын
And that's suppose to be a disorder?
@svenkrules9855
@svenkrules9855 3 жыл бұрын
Spider villains: **been trying to kill Spider-Man in every chance they can get for years** **Spider-Man kills one of the villains** Spider villains: **surprised pikachu face**
@matttran7161
@matttran7161 3 жыл бұрын
LOL that Fisk death is sooo satisfying. Spidey knew he how he operates, leveraging loved ones. Can't call a hit if you're dead.
@heyyou9137
@heyyou9137 3 жыл бұрын
Death… yeah, about that…
@MBValentine
@MBValentine 3 жыл бұрын
@@heyyou9137 shhhhhh
@flyinggander990
@flyinggander990 3 жыл бұрын
I love how it was Johnny who ended up killing the symbiote.
@ReinatakaharaVT
@ReinatakaharaVT 3 жыл бұрын
Here's Johnny 😱
@miskitoragee6296
@miskitoragee6296 3 жыл бұрын
Spoilers lol
@flyinggander990
@flyinggander990 3 жыл бұрын
@@miskitoragee6296 just watch the video
@IIFM54
@IIFM54 3 жыл бұрын
@@miskitoragee6296 stfu, stay out the comments then
@miskitoragee6296
@miskitoragee6296 3 жыл бұрын
@@flyinggander990 I did
@graemedaley8060
@graemedaley8060 3 жыл бұрын
I think after a villain has killed a certain number of people everything is off the table and the hero fighting them can go all out
@deathking1019
@deathking1019 3 жыл бұрын
too bad joker never gets that treatment
@TornaitSuperBird
@TornaitSuperBird 3 жыл бұрын
@@deathking1019 Because it's always implied that Joker wins if he's actually killed by Batman, because Batman swore to never do any harm. ...Which is why it's stupid for Batman to try and stop someone else from killing Joker.
@deathking1019
@deathking1019 3 жыл бұрын
@@TornaitSuperBird this is why the snyder batman makes no sense to me we see him kill criminals sometimes with high caliber guns or explosives yet in that DCEU Joker still lives even though he killed robin you’d think out of anyone batman would kill joker would be one of them
@hetoverseo3887
@hetoverseo3887 3 жыл бұрын
@@deathking1019 maybe he does it to mock the Joker
@Dunge0n
@Dunge0n 3 жыл бұрын
It's the height of irresponsibility telling kids "never shoot back, ever," or, "always pull your punches." Batman is a failure as a father, as is any man who encourages his *own* children to place criminal life before their own.
@FrostyPopp
@FrostyPopp 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, JJJ actually really likes Peter Parker as a human, he sees him like a son in the 616, thats why JJJ had a change of heart
@yoursonisold8743
@yoursonisold8743 3 жыл бұрын
This is also proven by the fact that when Jameson did learn of his identity in the 616 continuity he started to support him.
@Jus-Too-Smoove
@Jus-Too-Smoove 3 жыл бұрын
23:00, I’ve been saying this the whole time. How is it, that in the Insomniac Spiderman game some random big muscle head thug has the ability to block Spidermans punches. Like cmon bra I have to slide between his legs as a superhuman hero who possesses the ability to beat the greatest super soldier ever in Captain America just because this guy looks like he’s 6’5 and ate too many cheese burgers. Spiderman wipes Kingpin no symbiote.
@ReinAfterDark
@ReinAfterDark 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.. But he may break the thugs arms cause he doesn't want to hurt them to the point of broken bones like a certain flying rodent
@Dejesusss
@Dejesusss 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReinAfterDark that would be a valid point if spiderman didnt throw sewer lids at people
@mikeval1525
@mikeval1525 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dejesusss it’s a video game, do you want it to be limiting?
@HamguyBacon
@HamguyBacon 3 жыл бұрын
He's big boned.
@KappaJones
@KappaJones 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeval1525 Bruh, sewer lids out of all things though? And anything he throws goes directly at their heads
@Jose-se9pu
@Jose-se9pu 3 жыл бұрын
One interesting idea Sam Raimi had but never got to use, was how the symbiote likes Peter because him having super powers can "take him", while when he joins with Eddie, he literally consumes him until he is a bunch of bones, and then goes after Peter again.
@sodokami6347
@sodokami6347 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah wish we got that Raimi cut
@Bobby-fy3ds
@Bobby-fy3ds 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the best breakdown of comics out there. Straight to the point with personality.
@CoastToGhost
@CoastToGhost 3 жыл бұрын
The title is literally false and he mentioned having thoughts on something several times without expanding on it. Off the top of my head he never have his thoughts on the red bubbles just mentioned he had thoughts on them. Idk this guys pretty good but he’s got a lot of room to improve.
@Bobby-fy3ds
@Bobby-fy3ds 3 жыл бұрын
@@CoastToGhost that’s like… your opinion man
@OrganizationXIII
@OrganizationXIII 3 жыл бұрын
@@CoastToGhost just read the comics yourself
@arnoldtallhammer1720
@arnoldtallhammer1720 3 жыл бұрын
I'd hate to say it but I agree with the simbyote, punisher, and so on about criminals always getting out of jail and killing people , kill the really bad guys , and no more bullshit.
@joogullae3456
@joogullae3456 3 жыл бұрын
Don't hate to agree,it's only logical.
@skaionex
@skaionex 3 жыл бұрын
Red hood approves this message
@ChrizzyGotAFatGlizzy
@ChrizzyGotAFatGlizzy 3 жыл бұрын
@@skaionex yeah I agree with all of them like red hood and the symbiote etc
@Kevun777
@Kevun777 3 жыл бұрын
@@skaionex injustice Superman also approves this message
@wackypenguin94
@wackypenguin94 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think like half of the stuff supervillains do is straight up terrorism
@cryamistellimek9184
@cryamistellimek9184 3 жыл бұрын
I wish we could have seen a positive outcome for how Spider-Man treated the symbiote at reed’s lab. Treating the suit as something alive and sentient. Maybe if the story had taken another turn we could have seen a good symbiote permanently bonded to Peter making him vastly stronger and a much better hero.
@S.K-L.C.H
@S.K-L.C.H 3 жыл бұрын
There's a game called prototype. And I really believe that is what Spiderman could have become if he gained total control of the symbiote after letting his rage run unchecked.
@davidm4566
@davidm4566 3 жыл бұрын
I think the symbiotic wasn't good or evil just neutral. It may have just amplified Peter's anxieties, but under different circumstances it might have been a good and healthy bond.
@THAMNOS
@THAMNOS 3 жыл бұрын
@@S.K-L.C.H Fun fact: The game Prototype was made based on an abandoned game they were making for Spider-Man 4 (The Toby Maguire movie they never made). They reused the engine and everything and made something completely new.
@PosthumanHeresy
@PosthumanHeresy Жыл бұрын
@@THAMNOS You're 75% correct. They made Prototype first, built SM4 on it, then that happened, then they made Prototype 2 the way you described.
@PosthumanHeresy
@PosthumanHeresy Жыл бұрын
The symbiote needed too much therapy at the time, sadly. I'd love to see a story arc now though where Peter gets ganked hardcore but Venom is there and bonds with him to pull an Iron Man, them having to stay bonded for a while so that it can fix Peter's organs and stuff.
@dfailsthemost
@dfailsthemost 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the symbiote took notes like a responsible scientist when creating the extensions of himself.
@The21Marine
@The21Marine 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh i wanted to see a version of Peter staying with the symbiote and seeing a darker ending.
@axelblade2710
@axelblade2710 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@VerdesArt
@VerdesArt 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was kinda dissapointed by the typical good ending, as far as I know there's not much symbiote spidey stories and this one hooked me up
@amberhernandez
@amberhernandez 3 жыл бұрын
Like Murder Machine from the Dark Knights Metal saga in DC
@MadDragonify
@MadDragonify 3 жыл бұрын
Poison, you want Poison
@void8648
@void8648 3 жыл бұрын
@@MadDragonify Nah. I want Venom Peter. Not Poison. Poison is basically 0.5 + 0.5 = 1 But tbh I would like to see Poison again
@digunder14
@digunder14 3 жыл бұрын
if they had a 3rd villian with fire powers, scorpion and shocker might have stood a chance with that ambush
@tremerefury
@tremerefury 3 жыл бұрын
Molten Man would have been the perfect addition...
@UnwantedGhost1
@UnwantedGhost1 Жыл бұрын
​@@tremerefury Yep. Missed opportunity there.
@randolphsmith7552
@randolphsmith7552 3 жыл бұрын
Your narration is so hilarious 🤣 straight hood put in comic form. Great content. Wish the comics were actually written like this.
@SNAKEAT3R
@SNAKEAT3R 3 жыл бұрын
Fax’s😂
@sanddry738
@sanddry738 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always been fracinated with a symbiote that isn’t a thing that drives people to their worst or evil but genuinely cares in some form even if twisted about it’s host. I like how this story isn’t a pure dark what if but instead also has some light at the end of the tunnel
@unstabl-3
@unstabl-3 3 жыл бұрын
"Stop it, that's cap!" 😂😂😂😂 EXACTLY! I thought he was superhuman then learned he was just strong because he is abnormally big. Daredevil slapped him up.
@Nempo13
@Nempo13 3 жыл бұрын
There is a story out there about an alternate world Peter keeping the symbiote and things turning out for the better too. The symbiote does care for Peter, and instead of it manipulating him, it takes a more Carnage leaning approach and listens to the host (Peter in this case) learning the views of the host and emulating them more. What we get from it is a perfect symbiosis where you have a Spider-Man that is capable of pushing even harder, moving faster, with the symbiote's powers on top of his own. In that one Reed was not happy with the symbiote bonding with Pete but also couldn't see anything wrong with it as it actually seemed to empower Pete's good qualities.
@wesleygriffiths8748
@wesleygriffiths8748 Жыл бұрын
Could you tell me where that story comes from? I'd love to read it.
@Potential94
@Potential94 3 жыл бұрын
That moment when in this series Peter Parker’s Venom is more terrifying than Eddie’s
@xic777
@xic777 3 жыл бұрын
i love this version of spiderman , this right there should be a fuckin movie
@rogretheogre
@rogretheogre 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love it too, but feels way too dark for Tom Holland. Although...
@xic777
@xic777 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogretheogre nah another actor that looks like the character, leave tom holland for small boy spidy unless he grows up and gets a beard
@renzuassassin3724
@renzuassassin3724 3 жыл бұрын
@@xic777 Yeah although I forget who has the rights to spiderman but before they can have another actor the spiderman now (Tom Holland) has to be done, ya know for each franchise it has to have at least 2 movies so maybe sometime in the future
@xic777
@xic777 3 жыл бұрын
@@renzuassassin3724 he's almost done , just missing one more after this upcoming one
@renzuassassin3724
@renzuassassin3724 3 жыл бұрын
@@xic777 True true I hope this one is as good as I hope. But on the other hand this definitely needs to become a movie, I am 100% with you
@Jojopah
@Jojopah 3 жыл бұрын
56:39 "Now I know we in an alternate Universe!" Dope!!!!!😆
@geekedstoner4209
@geekedstoner4209 3 жыл бұрын
You definitely need to do more of the full run vids!!!! It makes it a lot easier for newer viewers to get into a full run too, instead of having to search or wonder if u covered it
@dfailsthemost
@dfailsthemost 3 жыл бұрын
Nowadays, it's easy to forget how insidious the symbiote was in those early stories. Not so much textual, but definitely subtextually. Corrupted Peter Parker was such an unsettling idea.
@TheAwesomeAlan
@TheAwesomeAlan 3 жыл бұрын
The first half of the story was interesting, but the second half gave me complete Web of Shadows vibes and I loved it so much.
@brendanjohnson6792
@brendanjohnson6792 3 жыл бұрын
Wish they had done a sequel of it or redone Web of Shadows with new graphics and actual good voice actors. Loved the game, HATED the cringy voice acting and wonky cinematics.
@oroboros88
@oroboros88 3 жыл бұрын
@@brendanjohnson6792 I read on a rumour that they debated on remastering it but ultimately decided it wasn’t worth it money wise. “Too much of a cult following” to capitalize on it per se.
@snarglblargn4986
@snarglblargn4986 3 жыл бұрын
I love your personality! From years of comicstorian and others its refreshing for someone to speculate and also meme over this. Thanks for bringing more specific stories to light!
@SOLH-vq3lh
@SOLH-vq3lh Жыл бұрын
Brother, i read the comic, but i have to admit, with your commentary it made it twice as interesting. Take care - Solo (Sweden)
@TheManninBlack
@TheManninBlack 3 жыл бұрын
A Peter with a full beard is just a menace
@yourlocalfestivefurry354
@yourlocalfestivefurry354 3 жыл бұрын
"With great power comes great responsibility" turned to "With great power comes great utility"
@gabrielknight6626
@gabrielknight6626 3 жыл бұрын
Dez. Great video. Haven’t see an hour long one shot video from you in a while. I love Peter Parker’s side chick rule number1. Lol.
@Pundae
@Pundae 2 жыл бұрын
You know your life sucks when the fucking mob boss of a crime syndicate can't find a way to threaten you because everyone you care about has either died or left you People talk about not realizing how strong Peter is physically, but when you look at the symbiote and realize that all of that came from HIS thoughts and he STILL manages to be the 'friendly neighborhood' quip slinger, that's mind blowing.
@TH-AACKR-
@TH-AACKR- 3 жыл бұрын
I am not going to lie but I really wish marvel made this comic into a series in what if?
@jabbermacy
@jabbermacy 3 жыл бұрын
can I just say what an incredible narrator you are?? You had me glued to the 'tube thru the whole reading, I am super impressed and thankful for your reading, it's amazing story and GREAT JOB! Your humor is ON POINT and keeps it very interesting!
@danielfrazier3764
@danielfrazier3764 3 жыл бұрын
Put out the message. Spiderman ain't no punk!
@darkyoda1980
@darkyoda1980 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't been into a spider man series for awhile. Since peter losing parker industries and reboot after reboot and now ben taking over a spider man again. Glad they did this. Its a great what if that plays off points in the actually books. So greatly done being shown for those that dont. This would be a series i could have continued to read.
@IPlaysGame
@IPlaysGame 3 жыл бұрын
This deserves 1M views and 100k likes easy. keep doing what you're doing bro!
@love6ic202
@love6ic202 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see Sony pick this story up and make it a movie
@b.bones17
@b.bones17 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah why not but ngl though they should give this story to the people who handle DC animated films Cause its just no competition I mean bruh kid friendly venom was painful to watch
@Bazzarspider123
@Bazzarspider123 3 жыл бұрын
Such good commentary my guy, loving the content. This story really blew my mind, I had never seen such a dark Peter before. Great stuff.
@charleshester2513
@charleshester2513 6 ай бұрын
Bro this is the first time I've ever listened to one of your videos fire I just subscribed and I can't wait to listen to more
@coryschlichting3517
@coryschlichting3517 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, duder, that was AWESOME! Thank you so much for going through the whole story!! I don't have extra money right now for any physical or digital comics, so videos like this help keep me up to date on what's going on with my favorite hero, Spidey. Plus the extra stuff you put in the video to help shape references made, make it all the better. Great job! You've made me a subscriber!
@OrganizationXIII
@OrganizationXIII 3 жыл бұрын
Or go online and read them for free like everyone else
@coryschlichting3517
@coryschlichting3517 3 жыл бұрын
@@OrganizationXIII Oh... well... yeah, if I wanted to do things the easy way I guess... LOL
@angelomordini6779
@angelomordini6779 3 жыл бұрын
I feel a bit bad about this symbiote, he wanted to make Peter happy basically
@cameronjacques7934
@cameronjacques7934 3 жыл бұрын
The suit is like a drug it makes peters pain go away
@wugglesx
@wugglesx Жыл бұрын
Great job adding a good bit of humor to a rather dark story. The jokes and extra tidbits were a welcomed addition.
@dopespillcomics
@dopespillcomics Жыл бұрын
Thanks fam, and thanks for watching 🙏🏽
@gabrielknight6626
@gabrielknight6626 3 жыл бұрын
I had to make a second comment in this video. This is one of my favorite storylines and you tell it well. Spider-Manslaughter is not going anywhere. Keep dropping hits
@LameIRL_247
@LameIRL_247 3 жыл бұрын
The “Wrong Side of the web”...I just found your channel. I gave up on comic YT channels and switched back to anime and manga. Glad I found it. Very down-to-earth explanation of the media.
@ArceAngel
@ArceAngel 3 жыл бұрын
that was indeed one dope spill of a comic. thanks
@jayabernathy1681
@jayabernathy1681 Жыл бұрын
30:59 man you got to be the best comic reader KZbinr ever you had me cracking up this whole damn time even in the dark moments as soon as I heard you crack jokes I subscribed don’t ever stop we need people like you to put the world back together ❤
@michaelluttrell9342
@michaelluttrell9342 3 жыл бұрын
How was that "Spiderman kills the marvel universe?: Still amazing, but did my phone glitch? lol
@StreetSamurai21
@StreetSamurai21 3 жыл бұрын
Click bait. Everyone is doing that nowadays. Its freaking exhausting.
@VokeRwasha
@VokeRwasha 3 жыл бұрын
This was such an amazing video, he didn't need to use clickbait to get views at all
@GunsouTDK
@GunsouTDK 3 жыл бұрын
i like that despite the symbiote being malicious it still obviously legit cares about peter as a person
@oroboros88
@oroboros88 3 жыл бұрын
More or less that could be based entirely of off survival instincts though. Peter is the strongest, healthiest most ideal host. Of course a parasite would do anything in its power to keep him (and it) alive. It’s just manipulation essentially.
@cordyceps182
@cordyceps182 3 жыл бұрын
The symbiote is basically a clingy girlfriend for Peter.
@thestrongestjoestar8342
@thestrongestjoestar8342 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest I kinda liked how Fisk realized that Peter had lost everything and he knows how it feels like as he had no emotional support growing up and his own father left him to diem
@arbalest327
@arbalest327 2 жыл бұрын
That's a stunning realization, most villains can't even get on that level.
@bleachedraptor131
@bleachedraptor131 3 жыл бұрын
Man every time you reference king in black it’s like in high school when you get reminded of last nights hw. That event got me into reading comics regularly but I never finished it lol
@tonemcduffie1812
@tonemcduffie1812 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I am digging your video. You explaining the story with knowledge and your own flare. I just subscribed. Bro when you said he needs to wet up that black cat....I died a little...lol
@diminoc4023
@diminoc4023 Жыл бұрын
Finally a guy who conveys comic book stories without having the most annoying voice imaginable
@jasonandrews1770
@jasonandrews1770 3 жыл бұрын
36:25 good to see the symbiote is also a man of culture
@nurse425
@nurse425 3 жыл бұрын
Spiderman talking to the suit in his head: Deadpool: "Welcome to MY world"! LOL
@savageshot3723
@savageshot3723 3 жыл бұрын
God I remember you below 50k with the questionable audio Now you doing dope covers like this and coming in clear as crystal Just wanna say thanks, this helps my anxiety a lot.
@J3FF3RY992
@J3FF3RY992 3 жыл бұрын
This is literally one of my favorite miniseries of all time. I always pick it up and read it to this day, and I just made the connection that Spiderman has ultra instinct but he has to be mad to use it instead of having a clear mind.
@Pastamist
@Pastamist 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I was ready for Spider-Omni Man to Red Rush Hobgoblin lol
@frostdragon1950
@frostdragon1950 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a comic where venom and Peter do permanently bond and its Peter learning to deal with it.
@cookiecrumb1018
@cookiecrumb1018 2 жыл бұрын
It is buts it's in a alternate timeline
@Total_DuDe
@Total_DuDe 3 жыл бұрын
50:43 Chapter 5: The part where he kills you. Johnny: This is the part where he kills us. Venom Reed: This is the part where I kill you. Achievement get: The part where he kills you. If you got this reference, you deserve a veterans discount.
@eclipticsolar5441
@eclipticsolar5441 3 жыл бұрын
Portal 2 if I'm not mistaken
@hellobrenden
@hellobrenden 3 жыл бұрын
Man, this is the first video I've ever seen from you and I can honestly say you had me hooked from the beginning!! Love your humour and storytelling skills, you just got yourself a new lifelong subscriber.
@SupaaGrover
@SupaaGrover 3 жыл бұрын
I thought I was just going to watch a minute or two of this video, but ended up watching the whole thing. Good stuff man.
@dereks_island
@dereks_island 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of throw backs that we love. I don't know why, but that red and silver old iron man armor was always visually pleasing to me. Not really sure why, but it's always been my favorite
@ezzateid6391
@ezzateid6391 3 жыл бұрын
Good story telling!! It was worth my 1 hour!
@Nayops24
@Nayops24 3 жыл бұрын
2:52 , 18:37 , 26:17 Man, I just love this comic and the new twist they added❗️👏🏼 40:23 What⁉️🤣
@yinrealm
@yinrealm 3 жыл бұрын
This artwork is amazing.
@rabbitfaster
@rabbitfaster 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, awesome job. As someone who prides themselves in comic knowledge this was like a balm on my soul during a busy AF work week
@WizardClipAudio
@WizardClipAudio 3 жыл бұрын
I just sort of would jive with Peter keeping the symbiote and evolving into an unstoppable villain pretty much indefinitely.
@UnwantedGhost1
@UnwantedGhost1 Жыл бұрын
You know it's at least a little funny when even DopeSpill chuckles at "Spider-Manslaughter". 🤭
@jemleith3263
@jemleith3263 3 жыл бұрын
Great story. Reminds me of mid-2000's SpiderMan
@captassassin5680
@captassassin5680 3 жыл бұрын
Once again KZbin’s algorithms screwed the pooch. Why am I just now seeing your channel?! Your commentary is great! I had no idea about this story and as soon as I’m done typing, I’m subbing!
@jamesjimenez1664
@jamesjimenez1664 3 жыл бұрын
You were great dude keep it up . You got me down for the long run brother and hell ya they need to make another issue on this novel
@whiskeybear1804
@whiskeybear1804 3 жыл бұрын
fantastic my guy. thanks for doing this. could watch these videos for days lol
@nobodyknowsforsure
@nobodyknowsforsure 3 жыл бұрын
This was one of those what ifs that was good.
@Jeffmarshalls
@Jeffmarshalls 3 жыл бұрын
Man, this was so well done, and that comment about hiding from the heat sensors had me rolling, you're awesome man, definitely subbed.
@ezachleewright2309
@ezachleewright2309 3 жыл бұрын
Damn. This is a really, really good story. Like, especially for an alternate universe thing. Very good.
@christiansanchez1973
@christiansanchez1973 3 жыл бұрын
everytime he said “that’s cap” he was so right i was dying
@ericathompsen8110
@ericathompsen8110 3 жыл бұрын
I just got to say that was an amazing video you're awesome and thank you for making it I enjoyed watching it.
@ThatRandomDude204
@ThatRandomDude204 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Spider-Man while holding back is an Avengers level threat already
@crowandraven2133
@crowandraven2133 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro for making this video. It was great and nice to listen to while doing other things.
@Stewart118Tyler
@Stewart118Tyler 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta respect that side chick/main chick dynamic🤣
@UnwantedGhost1-anz25
@UnwantedGhost1-anz25 9 ай бұрын
That particular scene at 20:39 is the highlight of this entire complete series video. 😭💀
@SupaSayinSkitch
@SupaSayinSkitch 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! But how we supposed to squad up and talk about this for the hour...when the video is an hour and 2 minutes long lol
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