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@dannyn.69339 ай бұрын
The kid who held onto the DMs FOR YEARS to get revenge for the guy no longer being his friend is crazy. He's literally a real life Syndrome LMAO
@luisgarcia13379 ай бұрын
I remember people memeing about the kid being the Reverse Flash to Gavin's "Flash" and it was fun. I think the kid even changed his twitter profile pic to one of Thawne
@confuddledveryiam27039 ай бұрын
his story would be a better movie than lotus
@teemo91419 ай бұрын
That whole revelation was crazy
@NinjapowerMS9 ай бұрын
Reminds me of that Southpark episode where everyone's dirty laundry on the internet got leaked.
@ndoie9 ай бұрын
Bros on Aizen level plotting😭
@schmelo19729 ай бұрын
Having MJ say to Peter "nobody wants to go out with me" while standing over Peters GFs grave is fucking wild 💀💀💀
@Thinepheonix8 ай бұрын
Am I wrong for thinking she deserved to get her ass chewed out for that? Even if it’s not fitting for Peter
@AC-hj9tv8 ай бұрын
Loololol
@ThePatchedVest8 ай бұрын
I’m sure the writer thinks that’s the actual thought process of fEmOiDs.
@schmelo19728 ай бұрын
@@ThePatchedVest 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Thinepheonix8 ай бұрын
@@ThePatchedVest he of course he does. This movie was made by incels
@Znooly8 ай бұрын
BRUH, I CAN'T BELIEVE SOME 10-YEAR-OLD SPENT 5 YEARS COLLECTING DMS OF ONE GUY JUST FOR REVENGE. THAT'S SOME ARCH-NEMESIS LORE RIGHT THERE.
@Montesama3146 ай бұрын
Jason Todd is mistreated by Batman, burns Gotham to the ground as Red Hood
@WillactTv6 ай бұрын
I'm the type to do that, He taught him a lesson to watch how you talk to people and have some God damn respect. Some people will start plotting on you
@tokyodeathghoul23136 ай бұрын
@@WillactTvI'm the kind of person to go through all that trouble then misclick and hit delete instead of post
@_aWiseMan6 ай бұрын
Bro literally had a villain arch. He became syndrome
@JesusSaves55006 ай бұрын
@@Montesama314to be fair, what happened to Jason was just a little bit more complex than simply being "mistreated by Batman" but I'm sure you know that.
@thecollector4278 ай бұрын
"You saved people." "And how many others died because of it?" Well, at least he acknowledges his use of human shields
@rpaul43906 ай бұрын
That is indeed "comic accurate"
@pugachevskobra56365 ай бұрын
IDF pilot after leveling an apartment complex:
@abook21414 ай бұрын
@@pugachevskobra5636 assuming they'd actually admit it
@cakeisgayandtiktokgirlsbelike3 ай бұрын
Fu Ck Spider Man lotiius go watch web of Super man fan film Nerds........
@lolstalgic96022 ай бұрын
@@pugachevskobra5636 You just had to bring the Israel-Palestine conflict into a video about Spider-Man
@spookyweedwitch9 ай бұрын
"my dad wasn't around much, but when he was...he was around" incredible writing 10/10
@Spamhard9 ай бұрын
Omg i noticed that and thought I *must* have misheard. Truly the greatest piece of writing ever made.
@pockysucks9 ай бұрын
Kinda like "People die when they are killed" from Fate/Stay Night
@woodhawk1099 ай бұрын
@@pockysucks At least that line actually makes sense when you look at the entire sentence in context. It's "People die when they are killed, that's how it's supposed to be." The line was said by a character who was killed and brought back to life. He's in shock that such a thing is possible and is trying to figure out why he wasn't dead. The line in Spider-man Lotus just sounds like a first draft that never got revised
@noblesseoblige3199 ай бұрын
@@woodhawk109I mean, I got an entire meme folder of dumb phrases. That left hand isn't a right hand. The berserker is berserk. For ages, dragon slayers were known as killers of dragons. The future just means it hasn't happened yet. The pot calling the kettle black is because of something that doesn't involve race. The archer class is made up of archers then? To an ant, you look like a very large giant- unless you're ant-sized already. I'll kill you in a way that keeps you alive before you die. Die before you're killed. I wouldn't die even if I was killed. And my personal favorite: "what do you mean I can't kill him because he died???" told absolutely without irony or even context having it make sense. I just think sometimes people think of cool shit in the shower, write it down, and no one bothers to consider it later in the day. .... And yes, most of those examples are from something in the fate franchise. Probably coincidence... Cough...
@thejuiceking22199 ай бұрын
i mean it could work as like trying to hide some issues regarding his father or something
@rjai50039 ай бұрын
He really asked himself “If I could make my dream Spiderman movie, what would it be?” and decided on Peter Parker moping around for 2 hours
@retrolightning2k869 ай бұрын
White guys with brown hair: "Oh my god he's literally me"
@malum94789 ай бұрын
@@retrolightning2k86 fr
@AJ-nh9qm9 ай бұрын
That’s these Spider-Man fanatics ideal movie. Just Peter being a sad fuck the whole time, because it’s so “relatable” 😂.
@robertlaidlaw45929 ай бұрын
turns out, its really hard to make a movie, its ok to critacise films but the fact films even get made (proabbly the same with games) is staggering. like 100 people doing their best work and knowing what everone else wants. locations the right actors lighting, its kinda crazy.
@antona.13279 ай бұрын
Yeah, way more accurate to the character than ''MR STARK MADE ME THIS SUIT THIS IS AWESOME WOW THANK YOU MR STARK''. MCU stans, us Spider-Man fans... Yeah, we don't like you. Then again, no self-respecting Marvel Comics fan is ever gonna like an MCU fan.
@tomtalkstropes7 ай бұрын
Seeing Spiderman go "I can't do this!" and freak out /trauma dump at what is basically a make-a-wish event is so funny to me. That is literally something I would expect to see on robot chicken.
@kingyahyah5 ай бұрын
😂
@altalia074 ай бұрын
😆😆 it had to be made for robot chicken
@efrainoctavio35063 ай бұрын
how can I make this about meeeeee 😭
@tomtalkstropes2 ай бұрын
@jabrone.destoroyah is it actually1?
@tomtalkstropes2 ай бұрын
!?*
@WeeabossVA8 ай бұрын
Say what you want about TASM2, but the one 15 second cut of Peter in front of Gwen's grave over the course of the seasons has more nuance, maturity and subtlety in handling her death than this entire two hour fan film.
@madsgrams20697 ай бұрын
Even that hilariously bad "action" scene at the end with Paul Giamati Rhino is leaps and bounds anything we see in this p.o.s... There they at least stay true to Peter's character: we see that, even though he's downright devastated with grief, he still has time to save a child and tell him a few kind words. In Lotus...he uses inocent by-standers as human shields...'nuff said...
@RuneKatashima7 ай бұрын
Not trying to defend the film, but they weren't innocent bystanders. They were other goons. Peter would still not sacrifice them, but it's not the same as "innocent"@@madsgrams2069
@screencast38626 ай бұрын
Lotus makes TASM2 a more thrilling movie and at least the 2 and a half hour runtime is better paced than an ALMOST 2 hour fan film
@GOODYGOODGOOD7896 ай бұрын
It also does "Spider-Man having a friendship with a child" much better than this train wreck (yes I know it isn't the same since the child isn't dying but there are similarities), and it probably isn't the best sign when TASM2 is better than this fan film in every conceivable way.
@simplekid43285 ай бұрын
Yeah I wasn't a fan of that movie at all... But I'd pick that over this piece of horse shit
@killlerfang19 ай бұрын
Finding out that all the drama was exposed because someone felt wronged at 10 years old is the craziest part of this whole saga to me
@jamesreagan81759 ай бұрын
Reminder to not be toxic to children online
@Naijiro9 ай бұрын
Karma is a patient mistress
@ytrewq123459 ай бұрын
This is one of the only fair circumstance to use the victim card. When a child says "I was treated unfairly" and she doesn't have dramatic/overbearing parents, or is a liar...
@illyria0009 ай бұрын
It's giving very "you shoulda never called me a fat ass Kelly Price" energy.
@blackaua9 ай бұрын
No one saw that twist Syndrome redemption arc lmfao
@arthurdurham9 ай бұрын
The story about the kid who felt spited by the production is a better story than the movie itself
@carltontaylor65009 ай бұрын
I want to see a movie about that 😂 a “The Disaster Artist” style film
@sabsyoutube2419 ай бұрын
Replace production with super heroes and then you got syndromes origin
@truthfuldrake2789 ай бұрын
The funniest thing is the kid was also racist supposedly 😂
@LuisSierra429 ай бұрын
@@carltontaylor6500 oh hi mark
@patdion36069 ай бұрын
I would love it if someone made a movie about that
@KeybladeMasterAndy8 ай бұрын
This whole film is ironically inspirational. It tells young filmmakers "hey. This shit got made. I can probably do something better, if not easier."
@snoookie4565 ай бұрын
Like Bukowski in Factotum. He says sometimes he thinks he sucks at writing, but then picks up the nearest book and those thoughts disappear.
@daelen.cclark2 ай бұрын
Same way I look at Doug Walker.
@vitoc84542 ай бұрын
@@daelen.cclarkor Tommy Wiseau and the guy who made Birdemic
@jacksongemmell62252 ай бұрын
@@vitoc8454people who unironically made better stuff than this shitty movie
@JLui023 күн бұрын
I can't believe the budget for this movie is apparently 125,000
@wells41746 ай бұрын
In terms of depicting how Spider-Man deals with death, Marvel's Spider-Man PS4 has always hit home for me. I may be biased, since it came to me shortly after the passing of a loved one, but Peter's line, "Do what you think is right, even if it hurts like hell," followed by his final interaction, "I don't know what to do." "Yes, you do", with Aunt May before having to let her die has always been one of my favorite depictions of Peter's character. He knows what's right, and will put himself through hell and back to do it.
@pink_kino5 ай бұрын
I think what was wanted was more of a TASM 2 taking a bit more extreme than the more usual way Peter deals with it. I wouldn't even say how TASM2 does it is rather standard Peter it's really not it's trying to be different which is why I always liked TASM more than Raimi Spiderman, usual comic Spiderman ect.
@cakeisgayandtiktokgirlsbelike3 ай бұрын
dude wtf are you doing!? Go watch web of spider Man fan film@@pink_kino
@sovietcanuckistanian9 ай бұрын
To be fair, few things are more comic book accurate than taking a beloved story arc from decades ago and running it into the ground.
@FeatherSnake0079 ай бұрын
*Sins Past has entered the chat*
@Nzosaba_Matenge9 ай бұрын
@@FeatherSnake007Sins past has been retconned, so it's not a concern anymore
@ikariyabiollante8679 ай бұрын
@@FeatherSnake007still inconsolable over the fact that Mysterio and Harry basically got his dad high as balls and punked him into giving Mysterio backshots
@avocadoarms9 ай бұрын
Flashpoint literally Flashpoint literally Flashpoint. Do people working on Flash media know there are more stories to him than just Flashpoint? Like he isn't just the multiverse/convenient reset character.
@jondoe70369 ай бұрын
Wouldn't really know. Aside from manga my comic book consumption mainly consists of Donald Duck and European stuff, so I haven't really ran into that nonesense. (Edit) Oh, also Calvin & Hobbes and Peanuts.
@Tonixman9 ай бұрын
I love the inclusion of the "COSMONAUT QUICKIEEEEEE!" intro for a near 40 minute video.
@cosmonautvarietyhour9 ай бұрын
We love a little mischief around here
@noaha61859 ай бұрын
@@cosmonautvarietyhourSilly trickster cosmo is best cosmo
@Cake-Goku9 ай бұрын
@@cosmonautvarietyhour Marcus does a little trolling
@tomarezrankins88469 ай бұрын
@@cosmonautvarietyhourwe love the longer videos😂 at least i do
@tonybablony20419 ай бұрын
@@cosmonautvarietyhoura bundle of bewilderment?
@trustindean51645 ай бұрын
A few notes on the depiction of Spider-Man here just like from a writing perspective 1. Spider-Man is def the type of character who when faced with grief internalizes it and blames himself, not someone who lashes out at everyone around him. He takes responsibility even when its not his fault, thats the whole idea 2. When it comes to the kid he would, without question, try to be normal and quippy and stuff but without putting his heart in it and when it gets too much to take, like the kid asks too many things or brings up too many bad memories, he would either excuse himself or just bounce when he's not looking. He'd beat himself up over that decision later, but thats what he'd do. 3. Peter ain't cool. He's got a good social circle and I could see people being amazed that he gets the attention of a few popular girls, but I don't think folk would naturally find themselves being jealous of him or wishing they had what he had. Frankly the most accurate version of showing Peter hanging out with his friends would be like him DMing a DND session at his house with like at most Harry, MJ, and whatever the extremely nerdy friend du jour is. The reason Peter has charisma is because he has a mask to hide behind, in his day to day life people probably just see him as a quiet geeky kid. Also just like general notes is because people process grief in different ways it would be good to show that? Like MJ would probably be very openly sad, Harry would probably get mad, and Peter would probably wall himself off. Play in that space and see how these three different coping methods interact and intersect with one another and the strain it puts on their relationship and for gods sake show us what normal looks like before then
@pink_kino5 ай бұрын
alot of this sort of changed and was altered in like TASM which is you having the more Outward expression of grief which is more relatable these days than totally internalized(Symbiote was important cause it actually externalized his internal feelings), also Peter I like more when he came off as a loner in TASM just going through the motions than like the nerd but yeah this is definitely not the traditional Peter Parker but yk I like TASM's rendition more also in TNAS Peter was a bit cooler iirc
@danielwood6833Ай бұрын
MJ would likely wall it off like Peter unless she was at a breaking point. A major reason they were drew to each other is because they both spent their youth hiding behind masks.
@man-sc1us7 ай бұрын
18:43 fun fact actual no joke. When my tv is on sleep mode, this is the exact city drone shot that plays.
@nesstaylor2 ай бұрын
Oh yeah mine does that too, I think it’s for Apple tv
@MASTEROFEVIL10 күн бұрын
Yeah mine too
@Cake-Goku9 ай бұрын
I loved when miles showed up and lotus said "you could never be Spider-Man"
@vanityvanityvanityvanity9 ай бұрын
Harry tells me you're quite the Grand Wiz! You know, I'm something of the supremacist myself.
@crimsoneclipse06189 ай бұрын
He would have said way worse than that lol
@mango94069 ай бұрын
“because i’m the real black spiderman… by 5%!”
@mango94069 ай бұрын
0.5% my b
@Inebriated_Goat9 ай бұрын
I loved when Chris Hansen came in and told green goblin to take a seat
@seabeans41659 ай бұрын
“My dad wasn’t around much but when he was….he was around” 10/10 writing
@989538129 ай бұрын
I think he was trying to say that his dad was not exactly involved in his life? Honestly, that needed a rewrite
@donovan42229 ай бұрын
I see what they were going for but I don’t think the actor pulled the line off very well
@Richiedtn9 ай бұрын
it means the time he was around he was just “there” like not doing for him or interacting with him only existing i get it cuz i went thru it 😂😂
@moweu9 ай бұрын
You copied another comment
@reversalmushroom9 ай бұрын
You stole this from the top comment, the one everyone sees because sorting by top comments is always the default.
@oyashirosamabrasileiro4 ай бұрын
the moment of "Buffy Time" actually reflected to me, i just lost my grandma and it's too hard to think about how can i carry on
@theamazinggamerperson347422 күн бұрын
Sorry for your loss
@maxpayne431521 күн бұрын
How are you holding up now?
@mwayla330414 күн бұрын
May she Rest In Peace forever 🤍
@owenleal7 ай бұрын
In my opinion, being comic accurate should be about taking the original spirit and aesthetic of your chosen era of comics and then using them to tell an original story. Too many fans think that comic accuracy should be about ripping whole stories out of the comics and then just doing a panel-for-panel remake.
@pink_kino5 ай бұрын
true but diverging from the comic and doing something different is good aswell, this follows more with TASM and TNAS
@bobbysworld2819952 ай бұрын
The MCU has done that in spades for whatever material they're given (since those stories need other prime IP to feel complete)
@ggt4713 күн бұрын
Definitely. That is what I want for "comic accuracy".
@thezackast27528 күн бұрын
If you want comic book accuracy make a flip book. -some dude
@bloodrunsclear9 ай бұрын
Decent special effects, bad lighting, needlessly pissed off actors, terrible people behind the camera... I think this guy has a future making Netflix movies!
@Dikbeeg9 ай бұрын
Next zack snyder 🤣
@Derg20039 ай бұрын
@@Dikbeeg😐
@Dikbeeg9 ай бұрын
@@Derg2003 why the face ? Im right
@ItsMeStrider9 ай бұрын
@@Dikbeeg right you are
@birdyeggling9 ай бұрын
I would say blame the gjk on the cameras, as ya know, he fuckin okayed the shitty ass lighting because he’s a shit director, but tbf I don’t know that much on this stuff just watched a few videos on this movie lol, and I believe that blaming the dumbass, in charge of the project who okayed the visuals is better than blaming the ppl who just wanted to get paid.
@spider-man1209 ай бұрын
That kid that waited 5 years to get back at Gavin is such an insane story man. That’s some level of petty shit I LOVE.
@projekttaku19 ай бұрын
Bro got syndrome syndrome.
@IcyDiamond9 ай бұрын
I love the fact that Marcus just showed footage of Syndrome for that part, dude is literally Real Life Syndrome
@skylerloggins49029 ай бұрын
Mfer woke up one day to feel like a hater.
@mr.goblin60399 ай бұрын
Inspiring levels of pettiness.
@dasboom71339 ай бұрын
Ill get you spidermaaaaan!
@cristianarroyo27395 ай бұрын
Ive never watched buffy before but your segment struck me so hard. I lost my mom in 2020 and her delusions of them saving her mother and everything fixing itself is the most realistic bit of grieving ive seen in tv.
@theamazinggamerperson347422 күн бұрын
Sorry for your loss
@jeremyschep35892 ай бұрын
For someone who claims to love Spider-Man 2 so much, you can tell he never got Spider-Man 2. That film was made with heart and love. A movie made from spite could never capture that
@GEEKFREAK019 ай бұрын
"Most brown haired white boys love spider man." As a 22 year old brown haired white male who loves spider-man, I approve of Marcus's commentary
@dkfrito9 ай бұрын
As a 40 year-old white man that was once a brown haired white boy I agree
@goldenageofdinosaurs71929 ай бұрын
@@dkfritoAs a 55 year old, white guy with (mostly) brown hair, I concur.
@pocketmonster10889 ай бұрын
Literally me
@MasterBeast469 ай бұрын
To be fair, who DOESN'T like Spider-Man? Except for Bill Maher and DC stans obviously.
@lachiemcdougall9 ай бұрын
As a fellow 22 year old white dude with brown hair (and some blonde highlights), I concur with this viewpoint.
@estevanrodriguez44589 ай бұрын
I’m impressed that this guy found a way to include actual loading screens from like a video game into the movie.
@marcotontodonati3479 ай бұрын
i was thinking they looked just like gta loading screens😭
@StuartLugsden9 ай бұрын
@@marcotontodonati347 GTA Online loading screens and not GTA 4 sadly.
@obscureweeb3569 ай бұрын
The first time it happened I thought the movie was buffering when it faded to black in a transition, it just lasted so long, followed by pointless establishing shots
@damigamermx-us82919 ай бұрын
@@marcotontodonati347even GTA loading screens are better
@ayrtonjoga9 ай бұрын
@@marcotontodonati347 At least GTA had very catchy music in the loadings
@jonathanstanziano7746 ай бұрын
I once had to write a 6 page paper about a certain kind of cheese in culinary school and could only find half a page of info. This review has that same energy 😂. Well done.
@rhuonaChanel6 ай бұрын
How the heck did you write that paper? I'm curious
@user-gw3bs2in5i4 ай бұрын
You just brought back a really unpleasant memory of an essay I had to write. Thank you so much
@playsoup71053 ай бұрын
fym you writing essays in cooking class?
@DarlingMissDarlingАй бұрын
@@playsoup7105 lol in culinary school. not like a cooking class in high school my guy. That would def be wild though!
@crusaderforchristАй бұрын
What grade did you get?
@brieuxbayot68238 ай бұрын
I will now call this film "Spider-Man : Homeschooling". Can't wait to see this version in the next Spider-Verse.
@jamesmccabe79199 ай бұрын
The problem with hardcore Spider-Man fans is that their love for watching Spider-Man struggles has devolved into a fetishization of his pain in stories. Therefore, they think that if a story primarily focuses on his pain and sacrifices is the peak of his character. It’s not. What’s so compelling about the character is that despite his pain, he still stays dedicated, kind and good.
@cortomaltese52069 ай бұрын
Thats a problem with a ton of other fandoms too
@masterxak9 ай бұрын
Most Spider-man stories are set in-between Spider-Man's painful life events. The problem with movies is that they have to compress decades of loss into 2 hour movies. Spider-Man is usually a pretty upbeat guy with occasional trauma, but he's not Batman. Even as an adult he is still a fairly positive guy.
@lucienpavone34439 ай бұрын
reminds me of frank ocean fans tbh
@GOODYGOODGOOD7899 ай бұрын
Two things one: somebody please send this comment to Nick Lowe and Zeb Wells. Keep in mind I am the guy who started a petition on Change.0rg (I had to replace the o with a 0 because KZbin doesn't allow external links) to undo One More Day. And two: There is a good reason every single version of the story where Peter stops being Spider-Man, has him back to being Spider-Man, it is because of what you just described, that despite his pain, he still stays dedicated, kind, and good. If he was a character that was solely focused on his pain he wouldn't become Spider-Man again (in any version of the story) because there is only so much pain that one person can endure. I bring this up because while the filmmakers of Spider-Man Locus may like Spider-Man 2 that certainly doesn't mean they understand it at all.
@valentinacalderon63699 ай бұрын
That's why I find Spiderverse's Peter B. Parker super interesting. He has his lows and he starts the saga in his lowest point of his life but he is still kind and a good person. Seeing a Spiderman with a kid and happily married is super refreshing
@thebigredwave9 ай бұрын
The goblin laugh over "the actor was a pedo....and he was racist" really took me out.
@treyyert95619 ай бұрын
Maybe he was trying to truly embody the character
@biggoofy9 ай бұрын
I don’t think the green goblin was gobblin on some kids in the comics
@thebigredwave9 ай бұрын
@@biggoofy depends on which comic.
@derekstiles58017 ай бұрын
Ableist was a bit of a stretch. But yeah, he seems like he was at least a moron then at best.
@waffle63765 ай бұрын
@@thebigredwave Wait HE ACTUALLY DID THAT IN THE COMICS?!
@NickChad6 ай бұрын
It always bugged me when people complained that MCU spider man was so different. That felt like the point. This was spider man if he was iron man's apprentice. Not in a bad way just a new way. Why does every version of spider man have to be normal spider man?? Why not explore different versions of the character and see how differently they develop?
@jlopez240gaming74 ай бұрын
Facts, I actually love all 3 MCU spider-man films. Tom did a fantastic portrayal of the character.
@gizmotv93202 ай бұрын
Exactly. I'm a huge spiderman fan and was totally open to the mcu interpretation and think tom Holland has done a brilliant job playing a peter parker who fits into the wider marvel cinematic universe
@bobbysworld2819952 ай бұрын
Not "Iron Man's apprentice", he used it as a springboard, just like his F4 debut. People just infanticide for being the first young Spider-Man on screen and we all bought it ourselves.
@Spider-Man_234Ай бұрын
@@bobbysworld281995YES I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS. I HAVE FOUND MY PEOPLE
@BalorShieldАй бұрын
it's funny when they complain if something is not comic accurate. Comics where there are numerous different versions of each character. varying from almost identical from the rest to completely different character identical in name only.
@altervisi77482 ай бұрын
The scene of Peter shouting at MJ over Gwen's grave really felt like some incel fantasy of shouting at a woman
@AYVYN9 ай бұрын
11:09 Peter isn’t supposed to be a sarcastic bully, he’s supposed to be cheesy “It’s my shocker suit.” “I got a shocker for you. The next suit you’ll be wearing is a prison jumpsuit.”
@horsepaste9 ай бұрын
You think the creators and backers of this movie know how to be anything other than sarcastic bullies?
@AYVYN9 ай бұрын
@@horsepaste They know how to be racist I guess. Jacks of all hates.
@deceseze9 ай бұрын
you effortlessly wrote a much better exchange than this feature-length film, in a youtube comment of all places
@rogueguardian9 ай бұрын
That genuinely made me laugh harder than the actual screen written joke for this movie.
@mr.x25679 ай бұрын
@@AYVYNIt wouldn’t surprise me if they watch Rick and Morty
@roadkill2919 ай бұрын
I actually got so invested in Marcus' analysis of 'The Body' that I forgot it was in the middle of Spider-Man Lotus... What a harsh snap back to reality that was.
@diegotm43659 ай бұрын
Ohh there goes gravity
@Shockkings07149 ай бұрын
Shame he spoiled it 🤦🏾♂️
@notg_c26399 ай бұрын
@@Shockkings0714 did you just casually ignore the big spoiler warning before it?
@Shockkings07149 ай бұрын
@@notg_c2639 He says his mom dies right after the alert. Didn’t even give me the chance to skip.
@LiamGoogle-vw9gl9 ай бұрын
What
@AnnamPrasanth4 ай бұрын
That Buffy the vampire slayer “The Body” sidebar in the video is so beautifully put together to explain how grief can be portrayed in a realistic way is sublime! Kudos my guy ❤
@batfreeze567 ай бұрын
Best quote: "Spider-Man is always going to be sad that someone is dead. It is a weight that he carries with him. That is the POINT of the character!"
@FloofyCloud1159 ай бұрын
As a person named Gavin who also enjoys Spider-Man and wanted to one day make or work on something Spider-Man related, this whole situation feels like the darkest timeline of that
@Mute-chan4209 ай бұрын
Do you also say the n word regularly?
@kainhighwind29 ай бұрын
Look at it this way: It's only up from here
@Direk0919 ай бұрын
That just means you're the better Gavin. Gavin Prime
@projekttaku19 ай бұрын
"I'm Gavin Konop's, but you can call me "Spider-man lotus Director"."
@FloofyCloud1159 ай бұрын
@@projekttaku1 THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING
@shadowstrike2349 ай бұрын
The greatest achievement that Gavin will get is that his movie, which was meant to show everyone in the MCU how it's done, has its own video in the Worst Superhero Movies Ever Made series.
@ricniks46199 ай бұрын
Ikr I am so tired of the stigma people have thinking that “they know better” whenever a franchise releases something they don’t like. If making movies/shows was really as simple as just watching a lot of movies & liking a franchise everyone would be a director without needing to go to College to be qualified.
@noname-hf9ty9 ай бұрын
Actually kinda funny that an anti-mcu spite film about spiderman just made me appreciate the nuance of spiderman, is this how prequel fans feel?
@ricniks46199 ай бұрын
@@noname-hf9tyPretty much they absolutely despised TROS even though that whole film was basically made by Starwars fans who also think that “they know better”. & tried it’s best to act like TLJ never happened which isn’t a “true Starwars film” apparently.
@RadioNocturnus9 ай бұрын
@@noname-hf9typretty sure prequel fans always liked the prequels. but i get what you mean, this made me appreciate MCU Spider-Man way more and i barely like that iteration
@CountOfMonteCristo_9 ай бұрын
Say what you want about the MCU but at least Tom Hollands Spider-Man had a consistent story about determination, legacy, and just a Peter Parker who doesn’t give up despite his strange circumstances, not a shallow, mellow dramatic Peter Parker who’s such a self pity party that it gets annoying.
@archsteel78 ай бұрын
Man, as a Buffy fan, the emotional whiplash you inflicted on me by going from one of the best episodes in the entire series to one of the worst with "Buffy want beer" should be considered assault. I had to pause and take a step away after that
@eoghanclark165Ай бұрын
Right? 😂
@ianmatthynssens33158 ай бұрын
Man, just hearing you describe The Body reminded me of how I found my own mothers body. That empty feeling at her not being there, the dread thinking about how my family will go on, not looking at where the paramedics are trying to resuscitate her. I don’t think I’ll watch that episode, or the rest of Buffy, but I don’t think I’ll need to. Not the feel’s I thought I’d get from a spider man video
@literallykirby92529 ай бұрын
I remember emailing Gavin about what it's like being a film director for a college essay and he told me how "it's important to stay humble and not get carried away with all the power" he really should have taken his own words to heart💀
@low-budgefudge21649 ай бұрын
Bro really said "with great power comes great responsibility" 💀
@WolfHreda9 ай бұрын
Narcissistic types love giving out advice they themselves will never follow. It allows them to be The Mentor, regardless of ability or qualification.
@luiginastro88319 ай бұрын
Bro thinks he's actually Spider-Man
@qaassimmahmood5489 ай бұрын
I smell hypocrisy
@Spider-Fan0069 ай бұрын
@@WolfHreda do you have proof he's a narcissist?
@creeperinvasion68859 ай бұрын
Movies like this really go to show that being loyal to the source material doesn’t mean squat if you can’t back it up with good performances, writing, camerawork and editing
@ralliedcookies44039 ай бұрын
In short, idea is nothing without good execution
@i_like_lemons9 ай бұрын
They're only loyal in superficial things like the suit. Not the actual writing.
@Rubiecat9 ай бұрын
they WEREN't even loyal to the source material tho that's the worst part lmao, all this just to have spidey kill civilians in his first action scene im baffled
@Rex67Diego99 ай бұрын
and understanding of the source material
@dr.vegetable9 ай бұрын
Zach Snyder moment 😔
@_emory8 ай бұрын
“We’re going to make the most comic-accurate spiderman to date” *proceeds to film two hours of people crying in the rain*
@Alex-cv2gi5 ай бұрын
They really wrote in a scene in which a high school bully professes his unrequited admiration for his victim like he was asking someone out, and thought we wouldn't notice huh? I wonder if the writer's bully has seen it.
@trentmiller9769 ай бұрын
The fact that the director really shit talked his actors in a group chat, putting the blame all on them instead of his amateur directing skills is crazy. No one will ever wanna work with this guy. I can only imagine the notes he gave them and how rehearsals went. If there even were rehearsals…
@tuckermayatt27057 ай бұрын
“All of my actors and actresses suck” my brother in Christ you are the director
@pugachevskobra56367 ай бұрын
Lmfao
@CountOfMonteCristo_7 ай бұрын
It reeks of a bloated ego, this kid had way to many yes men in his corner claiming he was genius when it comes to Spider-Man etc. I really hope all the negative backlash gives him a reality check.
@Joseph_Winwelm7 ай бұрын
From what I watched before I got bored, it looked like they only shot a couple of takes. I believe the director knew what he wanted, but didn’t take the time to flesh anything out. Or didn’t know how.
@AdolisYT7 ай бұрын
Wizards will say: "My apprentice is severely lacking in the arcane arts"... my brother is wizardly wonders, you taught him how to cast!@@tuckermayatt2705
@BeefSupreme1388 ай бұрын
even the fans won’t let Spider-Man be happy. even the people that say “just let Spider-Man be happy” won’t let it happen.
@DHynes58 ай бұрын
Thank God the makers of Across the Spider-Verse got the message (for Peter B. Parker anyway)
@Isa-1546 ай бұрын
@@DHynes5 it's more about everyone to be honest, like while miguel says spider-man has to suffer, team miles thinks that they should be allowed to be happy
@leminer40495 ай бұрын
"The only thing they love more than a hero"
@pink_kino5 ай бұрын
I mean I prefer Parker being somewhat depressed and moody(I'm a big TASM fan so makes sense lol)
@Zekas_074 ай бұрын
@@leminer4049 “is to see them fall” the green goblin was talking about us😭
@RainbowMan94078 ай бұрын
I'm going to use this movie as a reminder of what happens if I let my ego get too caught up in something I make.
@shanemcnelis26678 ай бұрын
The most fascinating and hilarious part of this otherwise shitshow of a story is that some guy was wronged by Gavin and played the long game to defeat his nemesis. Matt is an actual comic book character and I love it.
@ivanagustinortiz52374 ай бұрын
Bro is Eobard Thawne
@PointlessHub9 ай бұрын
Last year my family dealt with a tragedy basically the same as in Buffy. The feelings were spot on. Especially the cold routine of the paramedics. Never knew that episode even existed and certainly didn't expect it in a Spiderman Lotus review. Talk about emotional whiplash
@Excelsior19379 ай бұрын
This wasn’t with a human family member, but I remember something similar happening with a dog we had just before my junior year of high school began. I specifically remember her running up to the door to greet us as she always did, and how I walked past her to drop something off at my room, not giving her much thought, and not knowing that the last time I would see HER had already passed. It’s fucking awful when that type of thing just blindsides you out of nowhere. I’m sorry for your loss.
@RSG_TheMonster9 ай бұрын
Sorry for your loss man
@snipeyboi59349 ай бұрын
sorry to here about that man, hope you're doing okay now. Also want to say keep up the great vids on all your channels and have a good one.
@the_pinkerton9 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that Cody
@kelkellacsamana72989 ай бұрын
sorry for ur loss. Also love channel cant wait for pacific rim uprising
@boobootittleman72999 ай бұрын
The only reason Spider-Man Lotus didn’t show up in Spider-Verse is because he kept calling the spider-people slurs.
@projekttaku19 ай бұрын
Plot twist: lotus replaced 2099, that's why he hates miles so much.
@gazem_32119 ай бұрын
He'd flip if he found out about Miles and Gwen's relationship
@MariOmor117 күн бұрын
"All stations, stop what you're doing and stop Spider-Man! YOU KNOW, THE BLACK ONE!"
@giantspiderproductions33568 ай бұрын
Your breakdown of Buffy in this video is so underrated. I have watched your content for almost 5 years now and I like it, but seriously that section is your best work hands down. You portrayed it perfectly and without any comedy or jokes, just you talking about what works in Buddy and I have to give it to you, that was absolutely beautiful.
@BrickBuster25526 ай бұрын
"You can't handle not being the center of attention just for a second." YOU ARE LITERALLY SPIDER-MAN...
@blackedoutreviews9 ай бұрын
Spider-Man Lotus: “I respect every single Spider Man in here.” Miles: “Does that include me?”
@personofinterest35349 ай бұрын
“Do I get an N-word pass”
@pugman96729 ай бұрын
“NO YOUR BLACK RRRAAAHHH”
@RSG_TheMonster9 ай бұрын
His team-up with Miguel is going to be 🔥🔥🔥
@Tizzz2509 ай бұрын
First responder for seven years. Been to many houses for “The Body” calls. I can confirm most of the time the way Buffy acted from start to finish is 100% accurate.
@donovanfaust32279 ай бұрын
Yeah as someone who has been through something like that I kinda had to start skipping through some of that. It felt way too real and started giving me flashbacks. I commend the director, writers, and Sarah Michelle Gellar for creating such a powerful, impactful, and accurate scene but I don't think I could ever watch that in it's entirety myself.
@handoffate72624 ай бұрын
The worst part is there’s a fan film from 1992 that’s actually good and actually impressive that blows this movie out of the water. It’s called The Green Goblins Last Stand and I’d highly recommend checking it out. There’s a documentary about it as well that I watched on TV years ago and I’d recommend that too.
@sarahtearex19355 ай бұрын
I recently rewatched Buffy and I knew The Body was coming but this rewatch occurred a couple years after losing my Dad. It broke me in a way it didn’t before, because it captured that feeling of hopelessness and how the world continues with its mundane things like people getting a parking ticket, having to clean something up or your favourite top going missing. But you’re trying come to terms with this huge thing and it feels like the world doesn’t acknowledge it. My only criticism of the episode was it was the first on screen kiss for Willow and Tara and I wish that it hadn’t been a part of an episode dealing with loss
@shelfenthusiast9 ай бұрын
one of my friends and i got drunk and watched it about a week ago, and they said something along the lines of "if people donated $1k more it would've been 30 minutes longer" and i completely believe and agree with them. such a self indulgent film that doesnt know when to stop
@liaminator49509 ай бұрын
That is incredibly accurate
@noname-hf9ty9 ай бұрын
I mean idk what we expected from a director who "wanted to expose the big budget version of this character's glaring flaws and give people the film they REALLY want 😤"
@navi22579 ай бұрын
More walking and NYC shots
@colin-nekritz9 ай бұрын
@@navi2257and establishing shots… that establish nothing
@ThePrinceofElPaso9 ай бұрын
A Spider-Man movie where Flash Thompson is the best character. Masterpiece.
@margarethmichelina51469 ай бұрын
Honestly, I'd rather watch a movie of how Flash Thompson becomes a change man instead of this shit.
@wesleylara51369 ай бұрын
Even then, his brief scene of trying to comfort Peter in the Andrew Garfield movie is leagues better than anything involving Lotus
@user-gw3bs2in5i9 ай бұрын
@@margarethmichelina5146 Agent Venom fan film anyone? Just me? Okay.
@arish_xo9 ай бұрын
The amazing spiderman...? He had a redemption at least ..
@PepeGibon8 ай бұрын
Flash Thompson. Good character, better person.
@fangsabre7 ай бұрын
Fun fact about The Body Thats Willow and Terra's first kiss on screen. A lesbian kiss was such a radical idea, that the only way they could make it not the point was to sneak it in. One of the only moments of real warmth and affection in the whole episode. Its so easy to forget it was the first because it feels so normal
@charlez74167 ай бұрын
Here's a few things that would make it a better story. Peter is still sad over Gwen's death BUT he has to still do spider-man duties. Fighting super villains like Shocker, Vulture and so on. As movie progress Peter's relationship with his friends decline and he's getting mentally and physically exhausted. Peter is about to give everything up but MJ sends him a message and we as the audiences don't see it. Sick kid scece happens and Peter is ready to be Spider-man still and MJ herself helps Peter with sadness over Gwen's death. Both Peter and Spider-man are getting saved by two different people. Plus Harry and Rhino have 30 minutes long sex scene. Perfect movie.
@noobmasterruben51677 ай бұрын
Lmao you had me in the first half not gonna lie
@J_A_Niss9 ай бұрын
"Years of listening to fans being wrong about everything, all of the time, has built a natural resentment for fan created work" Thank you for managing to give words to this feeling.
@ChangedMyNameFinally699 ай бұрын
Hopefully stuff like this or that awful Vader fan film never getting off the ground or the Sonic Omens controversy finally put the idea that fans inherently make better media than official productions to bed. Those communities are especially bad with that "hire fans mentality" despite them having nothing of value to show for it, the Pokemon, DBZ and RWBY communities also have these problems from my experience lurking in those fandoms.
@lildominator29539 ай бұрын
@LJK401 they ain't even lurking for the most part they're the loudest bunch in the fandoms
@Badmanpuntbaxter9 ай бұрын
@@lildominator2953 They were saying they've noticed that problem in communities *they* lurk in, not that the hire fans people are lurking. I think we can all agree they never, EVER lurk quietly 😂
@dj-murlock9 ай бұрын
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69wait hold on what happened with sonic omens?
@lildominator29539 ай бұрын
@@Badmanpuntbaxter ah shit I see I read it wrong now 🤣
@kainhighwind29 ай бұрын
As someone who literally walked into a room to find his mom just lying there, dead, that part with The Body hit hard, and hit home.
@personofinterest35349 ай бұрын
My condolences
@goldenageofdinosaurs71929 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry you had to go through that😞
@joshuagraham1049 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry
@atosm83009 ай бұрын
my condolences
@josevelazco92339 ай бұрын
Sorry you had to go through that man rip
@chingscott005 ай бұрын
I really appreciate you including the part from Buffy. I was literally crying the entire time, and while writing this. What a good episode. I was not expecting that. The rest of your vid was moot compared to this. So beautiful. I'm not even going to mention the name of the rest of your vid in respect to how good that episode was
@astropunch7708Ай бұрын
ironically this fan film makes me love and appreciate MCU Spidey even more that I already have.
@skylerloggins490215 күн бұрын
Same I love the MCU Spider-Man after watching this movie I appreciate it more at least Tom's version isn't a self centered dick
@MrSandwich200009 ай бұрын
Spider-Man Lotus has really shown how unhealthy a lot of fans are in terms of engaging with Spider-Man media. It's perfectly fine to not like the MCU Spider-Man films (or any Spider-Man adaptation, for that matter), but when that hatred is used as fuel to make a movie to spite something you don't personally like, then it no longer feels sincere or honest. A fan-made piece of media should feel like a labor of love, not a way to one-up random KZbinrs and directors.
@connorradcliffe17699 ай бұрын
This might be an unpopular opinion but I feel it's very similar to the current spider man comics today. whether its amazing spider man randomly killing off ms marvel or fans being overly toxic over the fact that MJ isn't into Peter anymore, it's not great
@getmeouttahere12099 ай бұрын
I wonder what Andrew Garfield and Jon Watts thought when they heard about the drama
@AJ-nh9qm9 ай бұрын
Yea, like u said it’s very indicative of the toxic relationship Spider-Man fans have with the character and it seems like they just want to him to be a depressed little shit the whole time. It also goes to show that fan opinions should be taken with a grain of salt (most of the time) because some guy typing behind a screen 9/10 knows nothing about what he’s criticizing, and should have no say in the direction a project should go.
@misaelbarrientos49229 ай бұрын
Media in general*
@Nzosaba_Matenge9 ай бұрын
It's one of the reason many writers don't want to write for Spider-man, even Chip Zdarsky who wrote one of the best modern Spider-man stories would rather write him guest appearing in Daredevil than a full book
@alexmalec22079 ай бұрын
The “Gwen Stacy freak out” was simultaneously completely justified and appeared out of fucking nowhere
@muhammaddawood26449 ай бұрын
Fax
@Gemnist989 ай бұрын
They were clearly going for the scene from the comics where Peter similarly lashes out at MJ. But they forgot the most crucial part of the scene: Mary Jane chooses to comfort Peter after he tells her to leave, serving as the lynchpin that allows him to move on.
@brawler57608 ай бұрын
@@Gemnist98And also Peter wasn’t a douchebag towards MJ, just understandably frustrated
How can anybody write a so called "comic accurate Peter Parker" and have him give a genuinely scathing, angry speech about how horrible of a person MJ is in front of Gwen's grave? Fuck, never listen to "Sam Raimi's Spider Man 2 is the best one" fanatics man.
@AnxInko8 ай бұрын
The best part was "The Body" segment, I've never even heard of the BTVS show and didn't know of its existence, however your description of the episode really moved me as someone who has gone trough a similar experience, they did an amazing job capturing the grief and emptyness after a loved one dies, like, I can tell that only someone who experienced that could portray it so accurately. Even though I would like to watch the episode I feel like I would crumble into pieces if I tried to do so, I'm not ready and I'm not sure I ever will. Great video man, who would have thought a review of spiderman lotus would have me in tears. (Also excuse me if I made any mistakes in my grammar, english is not my main language lol)
@avajanzen58774 ай бұрын
you should absolutely give BTVS a shot. it’s my favourite show of all time and its depictions of real-life struggles using supernatural elements inspired so many other tv shows. highly recommend!
@TSDTalks229 ай бұрын
Feel that the fact that the director thought he “salvaged” the performance of the actress who gave the best performance of the movie is very indicative of the type of ego we’re working with here.
@disneyfox57269 ай бұрын
The irony is that both Warden Wayne and Gavin J. Konop had a particular grievance for Tom Holland's version of Spider-Man because they claim that the version of Spider-Man was flawed and they can do justice with the character, meanwhile when John Watts had appreciated their work after watching the trailer of Spider-Man Lotus they had soon reacted to the reply like they're a huge fan of his work, also for the kind information MCU's Spider-Man is way more comic book accurate than their version of Spider-Man, he didn't used anybody as a human shield, he cares about life, he could possibly do anything to save every single life, he is charming, funny, he didn't kill anyone and most importantly he never give up, and these qualities are completely missing from the MCU's version of Spider-Man.
@ksad969 ай бұрын
@@disneyfox5726why is this all one sentence? You say MCU is more comic accurate, then end saying that "they" (who???) have a spiderman with qualities all missing from the MCU spiderman? What are you trying to say, please re-read your comment
@Im_a_miztake9 ай бұрын
My god that closing statement of “you should not produce your dream project as your first project” was something I’ve needed to hear. For so long I’ve been wanting to start a career in film and I’ve wanted to do it by producing my dream project to showcase my vision at its purest, but your this video and it’s conclusion have helped me see that is not the path I should start on. Thank you, I needed to hear that so badly.
@marcusgarcia64639 ай бұрын
Same here, I’ve had this idea for a Top Gun-like sci-fi adventure called Aviation. I’ve always envisioned it either being a live action blockbuster or an animated film but I’d have to be at least a level 15 filmmaker with at least several projects behind me to even consider funding it. When Marcus brought up dream projects, my mind went to Tick, Tick… Boom!, a project that was created in the wake of failure. Jonathan Larson (best known for the musical Rent) created Tick, Tick… Boom! after slaving for 8 years trying to get his dystopian show Superbia off the ground. The show is all about how over-ambition can cast shadows over friendships, love, creativity, confidence, and everyday responsibilities. This is the pit that can strain any artist from reaching their full potential and hearing Marcus affirm this reminded me why he’s among my top 5 creators.
@Mrthelegoknightstudios9 ай бұрын
Yep that’s something I should’ve learned with my first movie
@michaelvessel46049 ай бұрын
Really, there is a reason why Star Wars wasn't the first film George Lucas ever made, or The Godfather wasn't the first film that Francis Ford Coppola made, or Lord of the Rings wasn't the first thing Peter Jackson ever made, and so on and so forth. If you have a dream project and if you have the chance to make it, absolutely go for it! But you should get your feet wet with other projects first, or else you might just end up like Gavin here.
@koji67459 ай бұрын
Fr itll come out SO much better if you got experience first
@coryjerls31009 ай бұрын
I feel that man, I'm in a similar boat as you where I would love to get a feature up and going, but I'm definitely not there yet. Best thing I'm trying to do is make short films and fun lil passion projects
@SmegmaBandit4 ай бұрын
I thought this said born from sprite and I was so excited to welcome a lemon lime zest themed take on spidey
@spikevampsoul8 ай бұрын
it was such a pleasant surprise for you to bring up that buffy episode, buffy is one of my favorite shows but that episode specifically has stuck with me all these years, i think about it all the time.
@SilentRuth109 ай бұрын
I just can't believe their "terminally ill" child looks so good. Like, no IVs, no loss of hair to easily shoe cancer, not even someone who's a little thin. Hilarious.
@OnionKnightRises9 ай бұрын
Right? If it did it like in the comics where the reveal was after, I'd think "Okay, it was most likely to hide the fact that the kid is sick, sloppy but understandable", but revealing it before the scene just completely does away with that excuse.
@captainmichaelstudios9 ай бұрын
They should've gotten me to play that kid. I scinny white child who looks ill, I fit the bill perfectly.
@callumrolston9 ай бұрын
eh
@westminsterabbey.69169 ай бұрын
Man, shoe cancer’s the worst. I lost a pair of Vans to that.
@SilentRuth109 ай бұрын
@@westminsterabbey.6916 Haha *show the shoe cancer 😁
@anenemystand55829 ай бұрын
Across the spiderverse really blessed us all by creating apology video Miles.
@alazkaalazka60879 ай бұрын
I knew that scene was gonna get memed to eternity. Cinematic masterpiece
@kasam03089 ай бұрын
@@alazkaalazka6087Any idea where that one video where Peni Parker is an anime otaku, and Miles feels uncomfortable, and then it ends with Spider-Man Noir saying the N-Word, and the other ITSV cast gets offended by him?
@casteanpreswyn75288 ай бұрын
This movie's writing is the perfect encapsulation of claiming to love comics but having no media literacy. It reminds me of the people who read Watchmen and think Rorschach is a/the good guy.
@pink_kino5 ай бұрын
we love Rorschach though, I think you would agree it's never been the "most authentic representation" or "what the authors wanted to convey" It's always been who is most relatable to someone and alot of times the more emotionally afflicted characters are getting alot of attention especially ones who have an axe to grind for something like Rorschach had Another example was Anakin and how he was hated by older OT fans cause he was moody, emotional ect ect but that's why I liked him cause he was pretty much built for more so for me i guess than the more tamed and traditional view of a hero as Luke
@PhelesDragon2 ай бұрын
25:58 this was my exact comeplaint with Snyder's Batman. The audience is SUPPOSED to be shocked rhat Batman has becomed so hardened and even now uses guns, but he never showed us that his Batman was ever against such things.
@MrBlockBurn9 ай бұрын
The fact that even Cosmonaut made a video about Spider-Man Lotus being bad is wild 💀
@jquadra49 ай бұрын
What I don't like about Spider-Man trauma dumping on a dying child is that despite how much Gavin says he wanted the movie to be comic accurate, Spider-Man giving up is not Spider-Man. Spider-Man ALWAYS gets back up. That's the point of his character. He loses friends, family, jobs, and everything, but he always keeps going. Because he knows that there are people who need him.
@Butwhythough8819 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! THIS IS WHY PEOPLE LOVE SPIDER-MAN!!!! Not because he’s sad and has bad things happen to him, but because he overcomes it and gets back up. The fact that Gavin and many specific “fans” missed that entirely annoys me.
@lukebytes53669 ай бұрын
I really don't get the mentality some fans have where if it's dark it's better by default. (Majora's mask or certain Pokemon fan games for example) it just seems so devaluing to reduce a story of good and evil to only the evil.
@surrotten33549 ай бұрын
What? Did we watch the same movie? He literally becomes Spider-Man at the end, Just like the comics, he keeps going... The Child thing is valid tho
@lookingforlove8399 ай бұрын
Didn't Spiderman give up in the middle in spider man 2?
@potatopatato15659 ай бұрын
@@lookingforlove839he did. He also gave up in all 3 movies. But its classic so no one bats an eye
@magiccookies4208 ай бұрын
26:45 bro his voice was shaking he really hated doing this shit 😂
@noodlekeeper51508 ай бұрын
Your use of clips and memes from the other Spider-Man movies was genius. Also...I literally had no idea this movie existed until today.
@TimeBucks9 ай бұрын
Astartes was a masterpiece in fan made art.
@MalikRuman-pg5cj9 ай бұрын
Nice
@MrZakmout9 ай бұрын
👍
@muzammilramzan44809 ай бұрын
Good
@jdaws48969 ай бұрын
We need a full movie of it!
@susmithaburusu37319 ай бұрын
Nice👏
@Jeanyawezm9 ай бұрын
You know, that part where Cosmonaut said that "young film students don't know how to cut stuff from their films" actually spoke to me, when I was in college I had a classmate that was told to cut some stuff out of her short and she said that she didn't know what to cut out when her short was like 44 MINUTES LONG, lmfao
@ChangedMyNameFinally699 ай бұрын
Makes it feel like a bad art film lol
@rickkcir21519 ай бұрын
It’s the classic advice given to writers “kill your darlings”. You’re going to have a bunch of ideas for stories, characters, settings, themes, etc. But even if they’re good. If you turn a book that should only realistically be 300 pages, into almost 1,000 pages. Or a short film that should only really be 10 minutes, into 90 minutes. Then it doesn’t matter how good those ideas are. It’ll be a complete mess of pacing, tonal shifts, and plot threads. Save those ideas for different works, and kill them in the works where they don’t need to be in.
@Jeanyawezm9 ай бұрын
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Haha, true but the issue with hers was that she had a lot of dead space and pacing issues, there were scenes that draaaged ooooon for longer that they should've
@Jeanyawezm9 ай бұрын
@@rickkcir2151 True, it hurts but it just improves the product plus gives future projects as well
@georgezee51739 ай бұрын
And not only cutting out whole scenes that don't add anything and mess with the pacing. Just by re-editing all the scenes, one by one, in way they flow better does wonders to the final product. Usually you can trim out 20% of you assembled originally.
@Montesama3147 ай бұрын
The whole point of Peter lashing out at MJ in the comic was to show that MJ wouldn't leave him alone, which planted the seeds of their eventual iconic romance. But nah, fuck that, just let him be a dick with no development for MJ.
@Kilesfactor8 ай бұрын
Somehow, I didn’t know anything about Spider Man Lotus when it came out, so this video was the first of me hearing anything. Also, What a beautiful analysis of that episode of Bucky the Vampire Slayer. Absolutely made me cry. Thank you.
@noahburrow3308 ай бұрын
“Bucky”
@Kilesfactor8 ай бұрын
@@noahburrow330 yeah bucky 🙃
@thrillcollectors9 ай бұрын
Lighting seems to be the hardest thing to get right in micro budget movie. It’s straight up what makes a movie seems like a POS or a real motion picture
@ernestomerino40309 ай бұрын
Specially if youre shooting outside, at night
@user-gw3bs2in5i9 ай бұрын
This! As someone who's worked on multiple projects with a microbudget, lighting can easily make or break so many scenes.
@KennethLyVideography9 ай бұрын
@@user-gw3bs2in5i I worked on those too and at some point everyone on the crew kinda goes "It is what it is" 😅. I've DP:d and assisted DP:s on such projects and we all kinda know the ideal way of doing it but the ideal way is to expensive and time consuming.
@antona.13279 ай бұрын
Yeah. So how did a multi-million dollar production like the MCU manage to have the most blandest, lamest looking Spider-Man movies in existence? Even Marc Webb's piss-poor movies had some decent look to them.
@SupKamGur9 ай бұрын
@@antona.1327still looked like an actual movie with legitimate lightening. You know the thing that was being discussed, not the aesthetic design of the cinematography or production design.
@pimentx32539 ай бұрын
"If you wanted to be comic accurate so bad you should've paid attention why you even like this story!" Marcus perfectly summarized why fan projects almost always never work. Those people have no idea why they like something, and they tried to replicate without actually understand why those creative choices were made. This video was great though, I didn't even know this was a thing.
@AuspexAO9 ай бұрын
"The map is not the territory". I feel like so many people try keep bringing back these favorite moments in comic history with necromancy. They bring back the body, but leave the soul behind. Far better to understand the soul of the thing and put it in a new body, or not bring it back at all and let it inspire you to make something new.
@MQMads1344 ай бұрын
I've literally never seen a single episode of Buffy but I'm openly weeping at what you showed??? Oh my god???? What heartaching beauty.
@efrainoctavio35063 ай бұрын
Spiderman to the dying kid: How can I make this about me????
@fightthegrip9 ай бұрын
The fact this was put out 2 months after Across the Spider-Verse must’ve been really embarrassing for them.
@ChangedMyNameFinally699 ай бұрын
Nah they think this is the superior adaptation because Peter is Spiderman instead of that NNNNNIIIIII...ncompoop Miles
@peacefulskies93209 ай бұрын
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69Nigga. 💀
@snakeseyes-uroborodjinn51598 ай бұрын
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69Isn't Nicompoop an Ace Attorney insult?
@ChangedMyNameFinally698 ай бұрын
@@snakeseyes-uroborodjinn5159 Ooops, forgot the second n. Was just making a joke about the film being made by a racist.
@MagneticDonut8 ай бұрын
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 I've always wondered how they'd react to the best spiderman movies being starred by a black dude. Thank you for confirming the trauma is so deep they're still in denial
@JMenitta9 ай бұрын
It honestly reminds me of Bill Hadar's writing advice. If someone says something feels wrong about your story, they're probably right, there might be something off. Then, whatever they say they would do instead, it's 100% going to be awful. Take the criticism, but ignore the advice. Lotus seems like ultimate proof of this considering why this movie was made.
@MusicoftheDamned9 ай бұрын
Heh. I just saw that a snippet of that video--an interview?--like a week or two ago, and yeah, that basically came to mind as soon as Marcus explained why he hates fans and fan works. I don't think they're all universally bad, but...yeah. Something made from a sense of an entitlement that probably still misses the point while also probably making new (and maybe worse) mistakes is bound to be bad and not even in an entertaining way.
@JMenitta9 ай бұрын
I don't 100% agree with Marcus on fan works. I think a lot of fan games can be absolutely fantastic, like Another Metroid 2 Remake or Black Mesa. That said, he is right that a lot of fans feel they can do better, but just saying "I would do this" is probably the easiest thing in the world compared to actually doing it.
@MusicoftheDamned9 ай бұрын
@@JMenitta Yeah, I can agree that fan games are tend to be more exempt from his particular criticism when it comes to fan works. Maybe it's because they mostluly occupy an odd middleground where not just anyone can crap them out for free like fan-fics, which can also be fine of course but have *a lot* of drivel. Still, between coding and other issues, it tends to require genuine passion and drive while still not also tending to balloon into being *as* resource-intensive as some fan films can get, at least the ones that to tend too become big and then need to essentially scam people like some bigger fan films do. The latter is maybe also why a lot of the notable crappier video games were (or still are) Kickstarter ones, which is why it earned its bad reputation that still somewhat clings to it. Now I wonder if he's said anything about liking _Sonic Mania_ given I would personally count that as a fan game that's better than most of the things that SEGA has done recently ironically. (Though part of that is admittedly just SEGA refusing to learn from its own mistakes as ever.)
@ayrtonjoga8 ай бұрын
@@MusicoftheDamned Except Sonic Mania isn't a fan game, it started out as one and had some fans in the lead, but it had 3 studios involved to produce it on release Sonic and the Fallen Star, and Triple Trouble 16-bit are the ones that were 100% fan made
@MusicoftheDamned8 ай бұрын
@@ayrtonjoga I had meant that it started as a fan game, but, yes, that's fair since it's also obviously official, meaning SEGA did take it over at some point (and thankfully didn't ruin it with their tendency to be their own worst enemy).
@ovokt8 ай бұрын
The establishing shoot are like old video loading screens lmaoo
@Simbabweman6 ай бұрын
They had a good VFX team and costume/prop designers that they put into a trailer and people ate up. I would never trust some random student guy with such pretentious comments to helm the entire production without any experience or industry professionals involved and the fact people gave them money before the film was made makes my head spin. Seeing the scenes inside the warehouse or shipping container or whatever it is is hilarious and the goblin fight oh jesus. Totally agree with the lighting comments too haha
@johndavidtibbetts73209 ай бұрын
buffy going out the back door and hearing the world around her is when the episode got me. Just the sound of the world continuing on, like everything is normal - everyone who has lost someone close to them has had that moment. The moment of realizing that the universe doesn't give a rat's ass that this is the worst day of your life
@ItWasBetterBefore9 ай бұрын
That's also how I interpreted the weather in that episode. An especially bright, sunny day, indifferent to sorrow.
@thomasjess50299 ай бұрын
Years ago my family lost a cousin in a car wreck. We were devastated and I actually ran outside in the backyard and pounded the ground yelling. I think about that day a lot and it just feels so unreal.
@ManelTinoco9 ай бұрын
name of the song while @Cosmonaut talks about it? it's a proper theme... idk where it's from
@cloviswinter55079 ай бұрын
It's from Halo 3 ODST. I think. Deference for Darkness
@SunGawdRa9 ай бұрын
I... I honestly want to watch him review Buffy episodes now. Or maybe the seasons.
@thatcyanblur9 ай бұрын
Remember kids, just because you read the source material and watch a couple of movies - it doesn’t automatically mean you can do better
@Reckless569 ай бұрын
I would say that’s true for the most part, but there are exceptions to this. For example, Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated (the new KZbin series, not the one that aired on Cartoon Network) is a passion project that has a darker take on Scooby-Doo and it’s a million times better than that Velma show. You can tell the people behind the series know the source material and respect it. Granted, the series only has one episode right now because it was released last year, but I highly recommend watching it if you love Scooby-Doo.
@sebastianchavez5779 ай бұрын
You can tell the people involved in this project were the the type of people to feel real good about themselves for liking TASM because it was slightly edgier than most superhero movies so they’re automatically elevated pieces of cinema
@lepersonnage3719 ай бұрын
They don't claim to be better, they just made their own fan thing, it doesn't have to be compared to anything "Official"
@Mint_Teal169 ай бұрын
@@lepersonnage371did you watch the first 10 minutes of this video on mute and also without looking?
@lepersonnage3719 ай бұрын
@@Mint_Teal16 i watched it with skipping, it's not really possible to watch the whole thing
@VelaiciaCreator8 ай бұрын
That buffy episode always gets me. There are some others, but that's just... well I can't call it icing on the cake since... but it's a work of art.
@geovannibotticella78225 ай бұрын
Video made me realize that it’s ok I took a break to write my fantasy novel and focus on short stories and other writing pieces And I honestly I’m glad I’ve done that I’ve become a better writer
@user-qn8fi7bl1i9 ай бұрын
I really like how they hired a supervillain to play a supervillain, bravo Vince
@HearingWall72389 ай бұрын
I get that reference
@2ndeaster9 ай бұрын
Step aside Jared Leto, this is the true method acting here.
@shaunstudios1639 ай бұрын
The Goblin Groomer
@2ndeaster9 ай бұрын
@@shaunstudios163 The Green Groomer
@shaunstudios1639 ай бұрын
@@2ndeaster The Shocker or as Warden would say the NI-
@moiz_01259 ай бұрын
the analysis and explanation of ‘the body’ is some really excellent stuff and one of my favourite things marcus has ever done
@Kyronex09 ай бұрын
I feel like it could stand as its own video honestly
@jayboo229 ай бұрын
ikr? what a wonderful tangent
@SwainixFPV9 ай бұрын
I've never watched this show because A. It's older than me and B. I've never heard of it in Europe, but it looks like it has queer representation with (I assume) Buffy and another girl??? In the 90s ? What wizardry is this
@boopinoop45459 ай бұрын
Honestly it was so good that I legitimately forgot that this video was about the racist spider man 😂
@lynjones91459 ай бұрын
@@SwainixFPV only with the other girl, but she's the best character
@HeronKij5 ай бұрын
Marcus? My guy? My dude? My b01? ... This is your masterpiece.
@truwho828 ай бұрын
By the time the Buffy analysis was over, I forgot I was watching a review of a Spider-Man fan film. Make more Buffy videos please lmao.