Spider-Man & Venom Maximum Carnage - The Mediocre Spider-Matt

[@MattMcMuscles]

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[@darrenwest9091]

The public flashers and failed background dancers have formed a powerful alliance. This truly is maximum carnage.

[@nessesaryschoolthing]

19:10 "What? Vector Man? Muzzoid!" This has the same energy as "Grand Dad! Flintstones!?"

[@BloodyAltima]

So for your trivia desires, Shriek has sorta become Carnage's general groupie and hanger-on since Maximum Carnage, essentially being a massively less sympathetic and memorable Harlequin to his massively less interesting and developed Joker, although the two of them have the odd trait of actually being a mutual relationship where both actually do love and care about each other in their own demented, edgy way.

[@BloodyAltima]

@@wdcain1 It's telling that the only event to make Carnage interesting was the one that explicitly made everyone act out of character.

[@TheSwordsman100]

Meh I like Carnage better than the Joker.

[@superstarthomas]

@@TheSwordsman100 Yea I find Joker to be overrated.

[@captaincomic8678]

I feel like trying to make Carnage compelling or developed would defeat the purpose of him; he's just a villain who kills because he likes it, which I actually find more interesting than just having yet another character with actual reasoning behind why they do what they do, it's a nice change of pace.

[@zeroattentiongaming820]

@@captaincomic8678 I like when Joker and Carnage couldn't work together well in a crossover. Joker is a man trying to make some point or at least twisted joke with his crimes and has some great design to his schemes. Regardless of his backstory, Joker was a rational and comparatively normal person at some point and there's still a rationality to him even if it often doesn't appear that way. Cletus Kassady was a bloodthirsty psychopath long before he became Carnage, the suit didn't make him a monster he made it one. Joker wants a calculated scheme with some point to it, Cletus wants to literally paint the town red because he can. Both are absolute twisted nutjobs out to commit mass murder but they differ so much in their ideology that they completely disgust each other. Joker is a more complex villain than he might appear, Carnage is the exact opposite. A gleeful axe wielding madman who happens to use his own arm as an axe. He's as simple and one dimensional as a villain can get but he's done right because of it. He's just a serial killer who has cool looking design and powers, being a case where less can be more. He's what any crazy serial killer might be if they felt like no one could stop them and that's all he needs to be. They seem similar on paper but are so different, Carnage and Joker are great examples of how simple and complex comic villains can both work for different reasons.

[@timmer919hep]

Furthest I ever got in this game was the level where Venom has to steal the sonic gun from the F4 building. Game is so flippin floppin difficult.

[@Kyderra]

Those dumb lazer walls take half your health away and then the boss comes with his own 'get fucked' damage.

[@Ironman1o1]

Thats the farthest I got too. I never understood why we coudn't get a hold of the Fantastic 4 and ask them to remotely turn all that shit off

[@TheSwordsman100]

@@Kyderra How I reliably beat the boss is clinging to the wall and then jumping off and kicking him in the head when was safe. @Ironman1o1 If remember right they were off world.

[@michaelgutierrez1928]

Dude I feel I love this game But I fucking hate this game

[@timmer919hep]

@@michaelgutierrez1928 I know the feeling

[@justinveenstra9388]

That opening! Sweet Jesus... I subscribed on that alone.

[@sirsorgum5095]

Fun fact: The music for the Rooftop level is a MIDI version of "The Mob Rules" by Black Sabbath. ...Why yes, I totally knew that before the Angry Video Game Nerd said that. Yep, definitely not fishing for upvotes here!

[@SemiJuggaloNumber2]

The guitar solos are different for each one, but it's definitely the same song.

[@angelriverasantana7755]

@@SemiJuggaloNumber2 the solo is actually based on one of the earlier cuts of The Mob Rules. The later version is the most common one, known as the "Heavy Metal" cut

[@ZyxWhitewind]

This was THE spider-man game for me as a kid. I used to beat it like once a day after school. There are a few hidden rooms where you can earn a lot of extra lives to make it easier. I see you have some "invulnerability" going on in this run though. :p

[@GenerationWest]

I actually love the Cloak & Dagger show, it's the tone of the Netflix shows (even has a few references to them), but shown through two different sides of teen life in New Orleans. Season 1 was slow build up, but in Season 2, they constantly active about fixing crime. 13:17 OH SHIT! Gave me a heart attack lol To answer the question.... I wish they did, they're PERFECT 90s Spider-Man villains. Those Clock King/Ventriloquist looking assholes can kick ass with umbrella! Oh yeah, Dan Slott's new run is really good, the first volume (1-4) "Fourever" is now a trade, has been since March. It has one problem, it takes SO LONG for a new issue to come out, and as of now, there's like only 9 issue out (Then again it's monthly) Lyja was Johnny's girlfriend, and that should've lasted, either that or Crystal. Muzzoids... JAYSUS! This is the prime example of game developers should have fans on retainer making sure their fan ideas don't become reality, comics have enough dumb shit to use,ESPECIALLY 90s Spider-Man villains lol There was Separation Anxiety, but other then that, in 2013, we had "Minimum Carnage", where he goes into the Mircoverse. Damn, i've never been this helpful in one day before!

[@agoodboy1404]

So, do you like comic books or something?

[@GenerationWest]

@@agoodboy1404 Just a tad.

[@jimmykrabklaw1216]

I didn't know it was a show. It's strange that they gave them a show. I can think of at least 20 unused marvel characters that deserve a show.

[@GenerationWest]

@@jimmykrabklaw1216 Cloak and Dagger have been in development since 2006, it was one few properties Marvel owned at the time, and they've sitting on it for a decade.

[@thatonebritishidiot3037]

I'm honestly not a fan of Slott's ff4 run, I wish they'd let Chip Zdarsky write it after his work on marvel 2 in 1 human torch & the thing

[@AwesomeVee]

I still have the red cartridge somewhere in a box.

[@trezion2111]

I can’t believe a character that was created for a cartoon became Chris Evans

[@kingcheerio8558]

I always loved how in this game you spent more time beating up homeless dudes, and deadbeat dads going through midlife crisis.

[@motherbrain86]

maximum carnage the comic series is just awesome for me, represents what was great about 90s marvel, could read it overe and over

[@Read_Hard]

Holy moly! I remember renting this game at my local video store and my older brother couldn’t beat the game.....so instead he beat me for choosing a difficult game. Good times 😎

[@DavidRPitt]

:(

[@sageky]

This game was kinda Difficult. I just remember gradually getting farther and farther every couple of playthroughs. It became an every-other day routine of me trying to clear this game.

[@badmrbox]

10 years of Dan Slott writing Spider-man have made me appreciate the early 90's stories like Maximum Carnage way more.

[@badmrbox]

@@Jackfromshack I did not like that arc at all.

[@jaronjohnson6399]

I loved this game as a kid, never could beat it though. Rarely got past the Fantastic Four 4 level.

[@mikeymaiku]

Fuck those robots. If the fantastic 4 had robots that fuck up venom and spiderman. Why are they even superheroes

[@jaysonpressley8642]

When you yelled "VECTORMAN!!" I almost died. You took the word right outta my mouth. Lmao

[@superstarthomas]

Carnage is pretty much my favorite villain.

[@MadKingDrooby]

last time i was this early uncle ben was still alive

[@gavinmccree6330]

Love the music in this game. I could never beat it as a kid

[@colechung7806]

You had me at Aunt Ben and Uncle May 🤣😅

[@cbuchner6862]

Played it a lot. Beat it a lot. Still love it a lot.

[@nellyp2622]

The human bosses are a pain to fight but if you can get the 1 hit KO on them it is easy. For example the first one with the 2 girls they come out on both sides of you so if you start the fight clinging to the back wall and wait till they appear and are lined up you then drop down and press A for the double web attack, you make them bump heads and they die in 1 hit. Most of the human bosses have this same exploit.

[@TeaRexTekMek]

GREEN JELLY!!

[@Delanoaidan]

Cloak&Dagger is my favorite of the Marvel shows. It's kinda like Life is Strange if Max was Cloak and Chloe was Dagger.

[@drgonzo123]

I loved this game when I was young. Even though it was ball-crushingly hard. I was even stoked to see a generic bad guy named Bret. No one is named Bret, especially with only one “t”. Ah nostalgia

[@Raytheman581]

lol

[@ralphbrito]

i loved this game.

[@LuckyLokiLuko]

I had way too much time on my hands as a lad and beat this at least a dozen times. The double webbing collisions were super op, just felt hard to reliably trigger.

[@VE17OM]

Its so weird that you just posted this video I have started learning to play these songs on guitar recently lol

[@jojo-b55]

I've only ever played the sequel, "Seperation Anxiety." It was stripped down by comparison. There were no comic panels or text bubbles. Instead, there were black screens with exposition in between levels. There was a bit more variety in the bosses, though. You fight the five symbiotes pulled from Venom, three guys in power armor & a giant robot. You don't fight Carnage until the final level

[@tankerboy07-hereforanexper62]

Matt we gotta see some hybrid heaven on the 64 man I think you'd enjoy that game!!

[@blackmagefelix6548]

I've owned this since I was a kid and I've only ever beaten it once.

[@potater8034]

15:59 wow I never thought that I would see spider-man and demogoblin fucking on the floor while black cat does flips truly this was MAXIMUM CARNAGE

[@Primekillerboy]

The music is so good in this game!!

[@M9_Prime]

And now I know I got to the last level as a kid and just couldn’t beat it… that game was so hard as a kid

[@thefreelancequeen]

Just learned that GREEN JELLŸ did the music for this thats epic

[@pauliux11]

Daaaamn dude that intro track!

[@karimjafar2415]

You should play Spiderman separation anxiety

[@matthewpinson568]

The Cloak and Dagger tv show is very good.

[@tankerboy07-hereforanexper62]

Spiderma/venom: Separation anxiety!!! Oh man my childhood hahaha

[@sor90]

I had this on my megadrive as a kid... The cartridge was red. Which I loved because I'd never seen anything like it before.

[@ZZtheDark]

Venom and Spiderman..Separation Anxiety and Questprobe Spiderman. :) The bosses made me wish I'd punch them in real life. Especially Shriek...that bitch.

[@pk5727]

Comic plot was something about carnage making everyone go insane and violent. That thing on Spider-Man showing no mercy is the result, and like part 9 of 13.

[@pk5727]

@@WiiManElite originally, I never had all the comic books, so I missed that part. I thought shreik’ only power was firing electricity.

[@lssjgaming1599]

I always wanted to play this game! I have the one song from the game stuck in my head.

[@jimmykrabklaw1216]

I didn't even know Cloak and Dagger was a show.

[@thomasdr08]

Fkn spot on intro! I always remember this game being doo doo.... I’m gonna curl up with some popcorn and watch this train wreck

[@thejohnkaufman]

"CARRION?! That guy's a jobber" lmao

[@punklover99]

Never thought to call demogoblin a jobber but it fits

[@peanutbutterpandapuffs]

I remember playing this game and always getting stuck at the fantastic 4 tower stage or never being able to beat carnage at the park lol

[@DrChrisRespect]

I don’t think I had this one, I think it was separation anxiety I had…also the game called just spider-man was pretty awesome

[@thiawendell]

NEW YORK STREET *2*

[@kmsthanks]

of the multiple times i've ever played this game, the furthest i got was the first appearance of venom. Everything else is brand new to me lol

[@ricardoredway]

ADORE THIS GAME WELL PLAYED LJN. LOVE HOW THEY RUINED THE SEQUEL

[@Kolbatsu]

Man there's an actual spiderman comic where Spiderman listened to Uncle Ben's advice and finally kills them all.

[@Raytheman581]

You had way to much fun with this matt lol.

[@lordbargoth4892]

29:05 those are the graves of Norman and Harry Osborn.

[@destinationskyline07]

Did anyone else also play separation anxiety? That was also a cool beatemup

[@PhilipGomes_SmashBro]

I LOVE THIS GAME

[@lukenukem434]

I could be in the minority but I really like the Cloak and Dagger show.

[@NolanWins]

9:20 I watched the 1st 3 episodes and I really liked it, but never went back.

[@prietostudio]

I actually don't remember which were Matt's thoughts on the Carnage they chose for the Venom movie. I was honestly quite dissapointed, I think Jackie Earl would have been way better!

[@loafeboys]

“Aunt ben and uncle may” bruh

[@ezmixologist]

Great vid, you should try Venom/Spider-Man: Separation Anxiety the sequel to Maximum Carnage

[@elijahschuh1099]

The game you're thinking of is Spider-man and Venom Seperation Anxiety

[@Shorai_3]

The farthest I’ve ever got, without Game Genie, was Prospect Park.

[@pk5727]

I think carnage and shriek married…..but that’s in a Deadpool comic. Maximum carnage was one of the first comic books I collected, so maybe it’s nostalgia but maximum carnage was one of my favorite comic book games.

[@MrUnimportant]

The music is all rock and grungey, so the Genesis is seriously the best choice for playing this game.

[@MiscFightVids]

The Genesis version of this game sounds terrible dude. Not saying that's always the case, but at least for this game it's no contest.

[@JawkneeJay]

I prefer the Sega music as well

[@rileyk5228]

I watched C&D. It was actually pretty good

[@kaptngraves]

This game was a test of patience, what a pin in the ass but fuck 9 yo me loved this game. Those spin maneuvers helped to clear space but it sapped some of your health in the process. I also remember the snes had no save function. Thanks for the flashback dude!

[@kaptngraves]

Looking back, I’m surprised they popped this game out in 94’ a year after the comic run (maximum carnage) had wrapped. Guess that’s why the levels were so simple. To your point, I just wanted a coop mode but that didn’t happen until Separation Anxiety game (the follow up).

[@donovanwest2712]

I've been watching cloak and dagger and it definitely has that low quality stink of an ABC Marvel show, but it has some cool stuff going on.

[@dameTHEname]

Love this game but only managed to beat it once or twice still got my original sega genisis copy of this game from when I was a kid but finally beat the game when I became an adult so yeah that's how hard this game is but it's still fun

[@AzureKite]

Carnage is one of my favorite Spider-man villains. I popped super hard when he showed up in the Venom end-credits scene.

[@ShellshockPrime]

The gravestones were Norman and Harry Osborne.

[@d3adend916]

separation anxiety was the next one i think

[@fabianwareinc1171]

Does anybody remember when Spider-Man slept nude in an oxygen tent, in which he believed gave him sexual powers?

[@bigfest6498]

Reporting from the future...Carnage becomes Carnage kinda like the movie...through Brock.

[@joesomenumbers]

I had the entire series, I was young enough where I had to trade other kids for some of them

[@Ryukin631]

I'm watching the Cloak and Dagger show. I'm enjoying it, but it can be a little slow at times. Season 2 has been better than 1 imo.

[@ZyxthePest]

Still need to start season 2, but the episode where they go in that guy's head feels straight out of comic and has fantastic cinematography and music choices.

[@tailedgates9]

I LIED!!!!!!!!!!

[@thomasdr08]

Jesus Christ... this game was the Genesis version of Final Fight.... all you need is the Andre family... #hindsight

[@Dumaiu]

13:47 😄

[@herron321]

how did you get infinite health? Also, great video!

[@DavCube]

Hopefully you didn't have to pay too much for this cart, the SNES version goes for waaaay more than Genesis does. And yeah there was a second game, based on the Separation Anxiety arc. It's not quite as good as this. I still unironically like both, though where that hits in between nostalgia blindness and just being too nitpicky about game "quality" is anyone's guess.

[@Dalv45456]

Hold up, there was a Cloak and Dagger show?

[@Marioroops]

Great vid

[@matthewvazquez4455]

Shattered Dimensions

[@TimelordPete]

you ask if anyone watched Cloak & Dagger... i didnt even know it had been released already damn

[@aaronyoung20]

Firestar? Starfire? Literally whats the difference other then the order of the names.

[@guzzmaster1]

I’ve watched cloak and dagger

[@freshcutgrassrod]

What about Separation Anxiety? pretty please?

[@michaelneumann9706]

I know there's Spider-Man separation anxiety which I remember being better than this one... I think? Lol, And I forget Matt, did you ever play Ultimate Spider-Man? For GameCube /PS2?

[@MattMcMuscles]

Yes, did the 2nd episode of Mediocre Spider-matt for it.

[@michaelneumann9706]

@@MattMcMuscles I thought so, even did a quick KZbin search to make sure and be a cool guy... And... well here we are lol 😅

[@Osmostrix]

Somehow, I always forget about the Spider-Gwen body pillow.

[@Felipe-u4m]

Great intro animation! 👏

[@bobbynick5358]

Can always try the Maximum Carnage Returns (Openbor) fan made game. mostly a semi remake sequel? I think. but if you want a official game, try Spider-man: The Video Game

[@mouth4war880]

6:31 ;) :) :)