THE DOLAN TWINS ADDRESS MAJOR DRAMA

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@SuperPrettyPink101
@SuperPrettyPink101 4 жыл бұрын
I worry for any girls in their lives too. For them to gang up on Ryan just for going for a walk/ chat with a girl who wasn't even dating any of them, in their minds that is apparently an inherently intimate thing. So if they have girlfriends, are the girls going to get in trouble just for interacting with other guys? Do the twins think talking to a guy is cheating? So messy, they are SO messy.
@DottieMinerva
@DottieMinerva 4 жыл бұрын
Very controlling and insecure behavior.
@Lethe_Nyx
@Lethe_Nyx 4 жыл бұрын
I also want to know where the girl was in all of this. Was she there for this fight? I'd be some uncomfortable if someone who just opened up about so upsetting news was getting into a fight with his friends because we took a walk. A fucking walk. Like did she know what was happening or did they kick her out so she couldn't hear? Just so many questions.
@stnkbug7533
@stnkbug7533 4 жыл бұрын
Omg right? Even if she was interested in Ryan they she doesn't belong to them
@blueauroras
@blueauroras 4 жыл бұрын
have you guys ever considered the fact that ryan must have left some things out to make himself look good? c'mon
@martina5395
@martina5395 4 жыл бұрын
Lethe i think the girl was the first one to help ryan she said that he didn’t do anything wrong and that they’ve been friends on snapchat for over 2 years so
@julia-if5dm
@julia-if5dm 4 жыл бұрын
grayson sayin he didnt yell is so unlikely to me cause they yell CONSTANTLY when theyre just talking with each other and youre telling me he wasnt frustrated then??????smh
@xxxtantenciannaonfroydo1440
@xxxtantenciannaonfroydo1440 4 жыл бұрын
Its like they said they are a bit dramatic in their videos that doesn't mean he usually does not everyone is who they make it seem to be. In this case I did unfollow the twins because of this I recently did follow them back I doubt the twins have bad intentions EVER but they're paranoia got the best of them I agree they still need to go over a few things about the situation.
@reenadactyl
@reenadactyl 4 жыл бұрын
yeah i didn’t believe that either, even ethan tells him he yells too much.
@xxxtantenciannaonfroydo1440
@xxxtantenciannaonfroydo1440 4 жыл бұрын
@Bailey Blais No🤦🏽‍♀️
@xxxtantenciannaonfroydo1440
@xxxtantenciannaonfroydo1440 4 жыл бұрын
@Bailey Blais huh
@canary9418
@canary9418 4 жыл бұрын
grayson's so damn loud he dont even know it
@sadbtch1827
@sadbtch1827 4 жыл бұрын
If they go through their FRIENDS phone, I wonder what they’re like in relationships? Not assuming anything just curious now.
@amandaaaa576
@amandaaaa576 4 жыл бұрын
Probably extremely controlling and manipulative
@SANDUSK471
@SANDUSK471 4 жыл бұрын
They set keytrackers in your laptop, cloned your phone, gaslight you all the time, have keys for your property but you cannot even enter theirs without their permission Probably this
@lysettemartinez
@lysettemartinez 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly man like Kristina is living with with them now. I wonder whats going to happen next. Like so much shit is going to go down now I sense it
@libra6411
@libra6411 4 жыл бұрын
@@lysettemartinez i think it would be foolish of the twins to under estimate Kristina. she is older, wiser and has a good network of her own friends.
@libra6411
@libra6411 4 жыл бұрын
@ILLUMINAUGHTY Yes she is thin but wouldn't make the assumption of an ED, skin, hair, eyes look healthy. Emma and some of her friends seem to be the same way and sad to see these young ppl feel pressurised to do this to their bodies. Give me a big chocolate cake anyday, happily eat it and not give flying F about it😋
@mayacallaway7747
@mayacallaway7747 4 жыл бұрын
I just do not like the twins anymore. They use their mental health as an excuse for everything and that's just not ok, they're toxic friends and Ryan doesn't seem to be the only victim from the twins toxicity
@Eawilhelm02
@Eawilhelm02 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree it’s not a good look and honestly they just seem manipulative.
@LauraLaura-mv4xh
@LauraLaura-mv4xh 4 жыл бұрын
right. ethan has ocd all of the sudden?
@asmazarroukmejri9549
@asmazarroukmejri9549 4 жыл бұрын
i'm pretty sure thats why emma broke up with ethan lol
@jennajones4334
@jennajones4334 4 жыл бұрын
Yes amen! Even if you do have struggles with mental health, you still should apologise to those you hurt during manic episodes and own up to what you did
@rachaelmends3582
@rachaelmends3582 4 жыл бұрын
Laura Laura this! they both keep developing new mental health issues yet still choose to not seek therapy....... make it make sense 🙃
@charlotte5711
@charlotte5711 4 жыл бұрын
The Dolan Twins have to realize they aren’t in high school anymore. They can’t just bully anyone they want because they are popular.
@franticsshow5988
@franticsshow5988 4 жыл бұрын
exactly they didnt even finish high school they were homeschooled. its like a delay for them since they couldnt do it in actual hs lol
@katiefriedman3992
@katiefriedman3992 4 жыл бұрын
Charli Damelio lol true af
@MLEO2
@MLEO2 4 жыл бұрын
they weren't popular in high school, they dropped out because they were heavily bullied all throughout their school years
@samanthawu8849
@samanthawu8849 4 жыл бұрын
They didn’t bully people in high school, you know they were the one that were getting bullied
@mimiscloset7075
@mimiscloset7075 4 жыл бұрын
It’s because they peaked in high school! They are stuck there, hence their behavior
@janicej.7930
@janicej.7930 4 жыл бұрын
Its very disappointing as a former dolan twins fan. But something was just off about them. Ever since the video with Shane about taking a break, I wasn't able to watch their videos after that. The whole "vlog" aesthetic that they're doing is really showing their true colors and it's too bad
@mk4ilaa
@mk4ilaa 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr like there vlogs are pretty boring I miss there old vids :(
@jayla6347
@jayla6347 4 жыл бұрын
i completely agree. i’m a former fan as well but like you said, ever since they made the video with shane they’ve changed. i know they’re doing what makes them happy, which is great, but this puts them in such a negative light and makes them look so toxic. i personally find the videos boring but that’s not the issue for me. it’s the way they treat others and the approach they have when it comes to other people
@minniek8569
@minniek8569 4 жыл бұрын
lmao i forgot that they did a video with shane💀
@blue_moons1870
@blue_moons1870 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah after that video with Shane I was completely turned off from their channel
@squidwardsdiary2776
@squidwardsdiary2776 4 жыл бұрын
They did say they wanted to make content they liked , so that’s why they probably changed and not everyone is going to like that. Please don’t hate on me I’m just trying to say what I Remember
@P3891
@P3891 4 жыл бұрын
Dolan Twins should just retire, weren't they whining earlier that they don't like to make content anymore?
@annoyance96
@annoyance96 4 жыл бұрын
TRUUUU
@chocolatecream5593
@chocolatecream5593 4 жыл бұрын
It was more about the type of content they were making at the time being tiring since they felt like it always had to be a unique idea by the end of the week. But I don’t think they have the finances to retire since they’re already fighting for relevancy.
@fortniterocks724
@fortniterocks724 4 жыл бұрын
and they were like "we're getting old" like y'all are 20 CHILL
@sugarandspicealdc7598
@sugarandspicealdc7598 4 жыл бұрын
Ang actually those girls went inside their house and were looking at their things and filming it and putting it on social media, so they definitely had a reason to be upset and post about it. (No hate just saying)
@doneciamatthews9306
@doneciamatthews9306 4 жыл бұрын
i don't understand the whole Potsdam thing with them though. like im diagnosed with ptsd due to (TW) rape and abuse (TW). tbh it feels like they are invalidating people who have ptsd. i understand being upset but not ptsd. they also said they had ptsd from being used from friends for clout...that rubs me the wrong way. break in thing i can somewhat understand. but the friends thing?
@addieb1314
@addieb1314 4 жыл бұрын
At this point I can’t tell if the Dolan twins are unintelligent or if they believe their fandom is filled with idiots. They’ve shown to be VERY insulting people.
@daloulatoukoum
@daloulatoukoum 4 жыл бұрын
They're idiots who think they're smarter than others. An explosive mix
@Xavier-kq9hp
@Xavier-kq9hp 4 жыл бұрын
I think they are mostly out of touch with reality and too much in their own little internet fame bubble
@fzee5412
@fzee5412 4 жыл бұрын
The fact they have zero true, long term friends always seemed weird. Maybe them being completely codependent on eachother resulted in them never learning actual social skills
@marianamorales982
@marianamorales982 4 жыл бұрын
@@fzee5412 I think that's true, I am a twin and I never learned how to socialize with people my age and I've never have any friends just like them, but they should learn to respect their friend cuz they being close is no excuse to treat people like that
@shannonforrester123
@shannonforrester123 3 жыл бұрын
it’s giving me Trump & his supporters lmfao
@chloerenae7730
@chloerenae7730 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a rich white dude famous for having someone who looks exactly like you and throwing your lifetime friend out because a girl that you feel entitled to showed your friend empathy
@princessmorebucks
@princessmorebucks 4 жыл бұрын
Privileged problems. They need to go volunteer or start a charity or something 😬
@GetonmylevelBeAcH
@GetonmylevelBeAcH 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the need to bring "white " race into everything... 😕
@Turboturtle098
@Turboturtle098 4 жыл бұрын
Bleach and Naruto because white privilege exists.
@GetonmylevelBeAcH
@GetonmylevelBeAcH 4 жыл бұрын
@@Turboturtle098 I don't really think this matter includes any privilege at all... And I hate how people usually always point out that if a white person is wrong it is usually cuz they are " White" And automatically think it's because they are privileged even if the situation has nothing to do with privilege in the first place... At least in this situation there is not any... As the twins were called out immediately for what they did and not excused by the society as they're "white"... If people want equality they need to stop pointing that if a white person is wrong it's because they have "white privilege" ... Even if the situation has nothing to do with it at all... And people need to stop assuming that all whites are spoiled brat and they take advantage of their privilege... And point that out if they get in trouble... It's almost like ppl are saying a white person is wrong because of their race and not cuz of their personality.. I mean isn't a type of racism too... Ps: I know " White privilege " Exists... But I feel people are getting more and more aware nowadays and don't excuses people cuz they are white, at least in social media... If anything they do the opposite.. But that is just my opinion
@kickbuttmama
@kickbuttmama 4 жыл бұрын
Bleach and Naruto here’s how white privilege applies here: if a POC kicked out a friend and got all aggressive, they’d be labeled the ‘Angry/Aggressive POC” - that’s a trope that has often been dumped on POC. Chances are their ‘victim’ would have immediately received pity and support, instead of the suspicion/hate he received before making his video. And even in this case, after his video, when the twins began receiving backlash - chances are if they were POC people would have not forgiven them so easily, since the ‘mental struggles’ label rarely works for POC. Here people are ‘oh they are struggling. How sad it is.’ So, yes, white privilege can apply
@SteviiLove
@SteviiLove 4 жыл бұрын
The twins need to stop victimizing themselves. Anytime people say _anything_ negative about them, warranted or not, they always use the victim card.
@Gandy2
@Gandy2 4 жыл бұрын
Very that
@FukaiKokoro
@FukaiKokoro 4 жыл бұрын
I think a huge issue is their codependency. Because they are twins, and constantly are around each other. Like they need to separate. Live in different homes live different lives. It’s like a toxic twin nightmare.
@hannahrandall-lewis7201
@hannahrandall-lewis7201 4 жыл бұрын
I so agree. It’s almost like being twins is their backup, so they don’t mind about losing friendships that much because they always have each other at the end.
@mismyname
@mismyname 4 жыл бұрын
I listened to their whole hour long podcast, and they took FULL accountability. Their friend kept trying to say that they were struggling, so it’s ok, but they kept insisting, ‘no, this is our fault’
@anayahall9688
@anayahall9688 4 жыл бұрын
Maddy I also watched both videos and I’m still a fan but they didn’t take FULL responsibility...they set up a sympathy card for the first half of the video then when they got to the situation they were more like “yea we were wrong but I feel like our privacy has been invaded” talking about their “mental health” and what they were going through was put out without their consent and yada yada yada...when they weren’t even considering the fact that Ryan has a RIGHT to defend himself against false allegations that the twins refuse to acknowledge...and it also seemed like they were trying to turn the blame just a little...once again I didn’t unfollow and I’m still a supporter but right is right and wrong is wrong and if your going to be wrong accept it with no remorse
@monsura8878
@monsura8878 4 жыл бұрын
Why haven’t they commented on that Mr. Kate drama like I am still waiting🧍🏽‍♀️. hi spilly
@SpillSesh
@SpillSesh 4 жыл бұрын
Doubt they ever will
@monsura8878
@monsura8878 4 жыл бұрын
Spill Sesh honestly
@taryn4458
@taryn4458 4 жыл бұрын
not your name bye🏃‍♀️-
@monsura8878
@monsura8878 4 жыл бұрын
Tea 15 you in my business yeah don’t do that😪😌😏
@scarletteivie5856
@scarletteivie5856 4 жыл бұрын
Chillleeeee it’s because they weren’t reprimanded as badly as they are now
@isabelladuretto9162
@isabelladuretto9162 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that they used OCD as an excuse to go through their friend’s phone rubbed me the wrong way. Ethan may have it or not, but it doesn’t work like that. This whole thing smells like bs to me Edit: what I meant by “It doesn’t work like that” is using your mental health as a way to divert yourself from your wrong doings, it doesn’t seem accountability to me. I myself have d&a but no OCD, so thank you everyone in the comments explaining your point of view ❤️
@kat74055
@kat74055 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. As a person struggling with OCD myself, knowing that there are several forms of OCD and symptoms, I feel like he could *possibly* have become aggressive. Even if this is true, he shouldn’t have used it as an excuse to be hostile to a friend.
@peyton8242
@peyton8242 4 жыл бұрын
@@kat74055 fellow ocd gang. I'm usually suspicious of people who drop the term ocd due to how stereotpyed it is; but
@heythere2899
@heythere2899 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr! I have OCD myself and it feels disgusting that someone is using it as an excuse for manipulative behaviour
@JustAddEmphasis
@JustAddEmphasis 4 жыл бұрын
ocd is about repetitive behavior or thoughts that you can't control... I really don't see how checking someone's phone once is ocd? and say he really did it because of his ocd, then his mental health is in an absolutely horrible place and he needs to address that immediately because it has already had effected his life in such an extremely bad way.....
@tati8452
@tati8452 4 жыл бұрын
Ive been diagnosed with ocd aswell and it doesnt sit right with me either
@mallorykstiles
@mallorykstiles 4 жыл бұрын
So are they the jealous step twins and he’s Cinderella? Cause that’s certainly how they treated Ryan
@claudiabenigno2796
@claudiabenigno2796 4 жыл бұрын
Tea
@WhitneyRosalind
@WhitneyRosalind 4 жыл бұрын
honestly though like are they worried people would become big fans of ryan???? I feel like they always want to be centre of attention :/ it’s weird
@unoreversecard8220
@unoreversecard8220 4 жыл бұрын
You mean ugly stepsister*;)
@d1m1u
@d1m1u 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are
@d1m1u
@d1m1u 4 жыл бұрын
Laura Gomez Lovato period
@savagerose3077
@savagerose3077 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly Ethan and Grayson need to live separately for awhile. They’re extremely co-dependent of each other and that’s gonna become a problem if Ethan and his girlfriend’s relationship becomes more serious, maybe eventually marriage. She’s not gonna wanna live with her man and his brother forever.
@getalife5650
@getalife5650 4 жыл бұрын
@@alaskapeachi’m an identical twin and i am EXTREMELY close with my brother. like we’re hip to hip. but we both know that when we get girls, we’re gonna need a lil one on one time with her.
@HalfNHalf.
@HalfNHalf. 4 жыл бұрын
@@getalife5650 well I’d try to get over being so close now to prevent problems later for when you want to get married. I could see A LOT of problems (mentally and in your marriage) arising when you two try to live apart and have never lived apart before.
@getalife5650
@getalife5650 4 жыл бұрын
@@HalfNHalf. I know. My bro and I both see problems if we don't find our own independency. However, he and I are independent and inseparable at the same time, if that makes sense. It kinda sucks that weren't close with your twin. What else are they for haha
@brenda8348
@brenda8348 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that the Dolan twins thought they have authority over their *friends* is DISGUSTINGGGGGGG
@jazlyn7107
@jazlyn7107 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly this may be an unpopular opinion but i feel as if the Dolan twins always craved to be popular and now it's just becoming more obvious/annoying. Not hating on them but I'm just genuinely sad that I'm slowly seeing this. Edit: omg thank you for the likes 🥺🥺❤️
@madscarpools8740
@madscarpools8740 4 жыл бұрын
Same! I became so attached to them after watching them for a few years so seeing these types of things just disappoint me. Spent so many hours on them just for them to end up being major jerks
@PrincessSybilla77
@PrincessSybilla77 4 жыл бұрын
The facade is fading
@lifewithdanny4016
@lifewithdanny4016 4 жыл бұрын
They are becoming like other influencers when they lose their hype or becoming irrelevant.
@jazlyn7107
@jazlyn7107 4 жыл бұрын
Daneza John that’s the thing like I felt like they were always like that but now they just suck at hiding it.
@satandie3405
@satandie3405 4 жыл бұрын
yea.... i feel like a lot of youtubers end up like that tho
@Pew3860
@Pew3860 4 жыл бұрын
James Charles literally has double the number of subscribers that the Dolan twins have, and even HE doesn't keep his friends secret and doesnt act all sus about it...like "oh do they have dirt on me" , like...who does that..??? They're obviously paranoid
@recluseren
@recluseren 4 жыл бұрын
Or they have some serious dirt, that makes this all look like nothing
@jayjohnson2035
@jayjohnson2035 4 жыл бұрын
They're insecure.
@rachaelmends3582
@rachaelmends3582 4 жыл бұрын
Maha Mzaham and that’s why I feel they really need to seek therapy because Ryan (and their other friends potentially) is now being affected by someone else’s actions. Ryan wasn’t a shitty friend and now due to the twins’ PTSD he’s getting treated like shit
@JarlinCastro
@JarlinCastro 4 жыл бұрын
James is getting the good drama honestly and I love to see it
@saraleith940
@saraleith940 4 жыл бұрын
They wouldnt want to go through ryans phone for "dirt" if they didnt know that they had dirt, so they obvioulsy know that they are doing something wrong or have done something bad and are afraid of ryan
@batmanshousewife
@batmanshousewife 4 жыл бұрын
The Dolan Twins are the perfect examples of fame getting to their heads. Their egos grew and now are big narcissists because they know their fans love them
@jt03336
@jt03336 4 жыл бұрын
Fr!! I can't believe my friend still likes them and accepts their apology!! She even has a Twitter for them smh🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️
@ashley464
@ashley464 4 жыл бұрын
i miss the old them before they got super popular. their egos are huge now and their channel is really boring lmao
@IsoJoee
@IsoJoee 4 жыл бұрын
their codependency is actually quite scary, ive obviously known twins to be super close and attached at the hip but in their case its unhealthy and toxic
@m0mspc
@m0mspc 4 жыл бұрын
nobody: not a soul: ryan: hey you guys kinda hurt m- the dolan twins: it was the OCD and the MENTAL DISTRESS and actually you put our mental state out there without our consent we trusted you that was not ok did we mention we had ocd and you really made us mentally unsable
@ohboiitsnaz
@ohboiitsnaz 4 жыл бұрын
They sound so dumb! They’ve been talking ab their mental state way before Ryan even showed up! They’re Flakes! That LA attitude has gotten to them.
@katie-iu3sg
@katie-iu3sg 4 жыл бұрын
You’re acting as if Ryan didn’t constantly bring up his eating disorders as a stepping stool
@salomeyy97
@salomeyy97 4 жыл бұрын
Katie Doyle The twin AND Ryan both said that eating disorder was something they all went through at the same time and that brought them closer. Idk why it’s a problem for you when Ryan talks about his story w ED
@m0mspc
@m0mspc 4 жыл бұрын
@@salomeyy97 it's cause the twins brought it up in their apology video as an "explanation" for why they looked thru the phone lmfao
@salomeyy97
@salomeyy97 4 жыл бұрын
doeful i wasn’t replying to your comment
@seeratms3340
@seeratms3340 4 жыл бұрын
i have a zoom meeting for school in 5 minutes but i zoomed here instead
@SpillSesh
@SpillSesh 4 жыл бұрын
Oop
@katelynmaison4817
@katelynmaison4817 4 жыл бұрын
Spill Sesh oop
@rix2367
@rix2367 4 жыл бұрын
Spill Sesh Oop
@courtneyhigdon4229
@courtneyhigdon4229 4 жыл бұрын
Spill Sesh oop
@joshuaa337
@joshuaa337 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpillSesh ANNA OOP-
@emma2613
@emma2613 4 жыл бұрын
I clicked faster than James Charles can say shore
@nanaaudu5652
@nanaaudu5652 4 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh so hard 🤣🤣😂literally thank u so much
@emma2613
@emma2613 4 жыл бұрын
nana audu 😂😂 ur welcome. Thx for laughing 😂
@emma2613
@emma2613 4 жыл бұрын
Emily James Charles always says sure as shore
@aiyannachavez4695
@aiyannachavez4695 4 жыл бұрын
That’s pretty fast do u see how fast that man talks💀
@emoniDsmith
@emoniDsmith 4 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh so hard
@Winniedemux
@Winniedemux 4 жыл бұрын
When I found out what they did to Ryan I unfollowed and unsubscribed I've never seen his face before but it upset me so bad. Honestly didn't see them in the same light when they kept making video's with Jeffree Star. *You are the company you keep* .😴 I tried to excuse it knowing about what they just went through with their dad but that's no way to treat a "friend" ⚠
@atarahbriggs
@atarahbriggs 4 жыл бұрын
same. it’s so disappointing people still support them like....
@Vampxiii_
@Vampxiii_ 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree and same.
@kxmmy1080
@kxmmy1080 4 жыл бұрын
Agree, I unfollowed them real quick after this came out. Talk about trust issues 😪
@tvgubber
@tvgubber 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@Winniedemux
@Winniedemux 4 жыл бұрын
@jeonghan is a prince It doesn't matter they still shouldn't have done it.
@kimberlylam4727
@kimberlylam4727 4 жыл бұрын
"being in drama is cool" is the most childish thing I've ever heard 😒
@Midnight_May474
@Midnight_May474 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously that's some middle and high school thinking 😒
@tiffanie_3789
@tiffanie_3789 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like they are learning from Trisha 🙄
@Madison988
@Madison988 4 жыл бұрын
Tiffanie_3 or Jonathan starfish
@kxmmy1080
@kxmmy1080 4 жыл бұрын
Being in drama for them equals more views which gives them more money. Overall, dumb af
@maddyspar8239
@maddyspar8239 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like middle school ish 🙄
@keepmeinurorbit
@keepmeinurorbit 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of drama the Dolan twins have been in this year is disappointing
@autumn8669
@autumn8669 4 жыл бұрын
i’m surprised they’re actually addressing anything. cus in that video of assumptions they basically addressed nothing 💀
@janine7576
@janine7576 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats what I was saying 😭
@ShaRaeBurr
@ShaRaeBurr 4 жыл бұрын
The dolans are a nightmare I swear you'd never think they were like they are. People have their ways of fooling you I guess. I'm pretty sure they didn't think drama was cool, there they go acting innocent. They're not humble or honest or drama free like they acted, they're actually just jerks!
@ShaRaeBurr
@ShaRaeBurr 4 жыл бұрын
@Excuse Me Jungkook omg right? Exactly. Whichever one she was dating was lucky to be w her. He obviously isn't his own standing man or hes just a witto guy who let's people run his life for him. Kind of sad actually but lucky Emma escaped while she could cuz they just brought her brand all the way down.
@janiahpapaya5988
@janiahpapaya5988 4 жыл бұрын
The sad thing i think about is 1- how long this has likely been going on and 2- they probably didnt even notice. Its so toxic for everyone around them and even themselves. Mental tolls do a lot on people and their mental struggles hit hard enough to rock every relationship they have. Honestly i think when their dad died, he was their “rock” and they were looking for that through Ryan but ended up unfairly treating him like garbage
@HayGurlHay
@HayGurlHay 4 жыл бұрын
tea
@HayGurlHay
@HayGurlHay 4 жыл бұрын
@Excuse Me Jungkook It really does make me wonder if he was controlling at all in that relationship. Glad she is free of him!
@ShaRaeBurr
@ShaRaeBurr 4 жыл бұрын
@@HayGurlHay yep I bet he was hella controlling
@spaeci
@spaeci 4 жыл бұрын
i cringed when OCD was mentioned. that’s not what it is. Ethan needs to educate himself. (i make funny youtube videos🤍)
@bosslady_missross7302
@bosslady_missross7302 4 жыл бұрын
Right! I’ve struggled with diagnosed OCD for over a decade and trust me, it doesn’t have anything to do with poor behavior! That’s all on them to correct! Now, leaky faucets on the other hand 😂 I’ve twisted my knobs so much in rituals they just started leaking! But any “checking” has nothing to do with other people’s stuff. It’s all your home life and your personal space.
@fzee5412
@fzee5412 4 жыл бұрын
They constantly complain about mental problems, but they don't show any interest in getting help. Theyre super privileged to be able to affort the best healthcare on the planet, but choose to just make their friends go through hell with their behaviour
@spaeci
@spaeci 4 жыл бұрын
Wooptiedoo Flooptiedoo they don’t want to actually get help, they just want the luxury to pull the mental health card whenever they want
@maddysunflowers
@maddysunflowers 4 жыл бұрын
they reversed aged or something. who gets older and thinks being in drama is cool???
@nicoleffion1563
@nicoleffion1563 4 жыл бұрын
maddysunflowers lmaoooo😂😂
@JKARAZMOJML
@JKARAZMOJML 4 жыл бұрын
Deadass, didnt they constantly say they hated drama and wanted no part? Or im just making normal people shit up? They love ittt so much GET BACK WITH james then spill the tea that they were the reason that shit flopped. They wont because they dont think drama about them is cool. Only drama about others that they can control and bully other people is cool.
@lol-uz7bl
@lol-uz7bl 4 жыл бұрын
FR when they were on the caspar lee podcast when they were young they seemed to wise and now they are like ”drama is cool”, like HUH
@k.a.r9876
@k.a.r9876 4 жыл бұрын
THIS!!! Idk if you have watched it, but the podcast they did with Logan was cringe. Gray really wants to wrestle Logan. And Logan had a broken wrist so he was like “idk I’m more focused on my wrist” plus he is getting back into boxing. But the twins kept pressing him about and going on and on. Even if some of their videos and texting him privately. I think they did this bc when Logan got canceled the boxing match with KSI saved his career. So now that the twins are losing subs and views they are trying to go the same route. But like Logan completely changed. He is actually some what likable now it’s weird. And him losing to KSI made him humble himself.
@Catbugnoir
@Catbugnoir 4 жыл бұрын
I hope they get help because the way they acting is not okay...
@kxmmy1080
@kxmmy1080 4 жыл бұрын
Agree, they should get professional help instead of having Shane come on their channel. Btw love your username 😏
@doraperucic6623
@doraperucic6623 4 жыл бұрын
Jimin sisssss
@anahyherrera2829
@anahyherrera2829 4 жыл бұрын
They seem so manipulative, like wtf. Eww
@4theLoveofCurls
@4theLoveofCurls 4 жыл бұрын
And why are they popular?! They're so not cute at all. And obviously they have more than a few character flaws. The influencer culture is so toxic.
@neutraliv899
@neutraliv899 4 жыл бұрын
Money and fame change people that becomes greedy
@Gandy2
@Gandy2 4 жыл бұрын
I only trust Ethan not Grayson now
@avery2674
@avery2674 4 жыл бұрын
i’ve never found them attractive i don’t get it
@ThomasinaJefferson-ke7xs
@ThomasinaJefferson-ke7xs 4 жыл бұрын
Avery Klineee Same they look deformed lol Their ugly insides bled out to their looks with a vengeance 😂😂😂
@neutraliv899
@neutraliv899 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasinaJefferson-ke7xs bruh- yk, I'm so glad I like Korean idols now. Yall right. Plus why the fuck are they so problematic, it just adds to the disgusting look on them
@fuellity8991
@fuellity8991 4 жыл бұрын
the dolan twins get worse and worse
@acnestis
@acnestis 4 жыл бұрын
@ILLUMINAUGHTY 💀
@PatienceXina
@PatienceXina 4 жыл бұрын
Lol remember when the Dolan twins weren't problematic...
@lars2363
@lars2363 4 жыл бұрын
Makes me feel old
@atarahbriggs
@atarahbriggs 4 жыл бұрын
Elanra same
@4laurenkelly
@4laurenkelly 4 жыл бұрын
Elanra same
@lupe1034
@lupe1034 4 жыл бұрын
That’s when I was a BIG fan of them but over the years I was liking different stuff and their content was getting boring for me....
@mingoogles4817
@mingoogles4817 4 жыл бұрын
i miss the old dolans
@isabelle2940
@isabelle2940 4 жыл бұрын
The fact they wanted to look through Ryan's phone for dirt makes me think there's something even worse that they're hiding.
@SpillSesh
@SpillSesh 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god I didn’t think of this
@HalfNHalf.
@HalfNHalf. 4 жыл бұрын
Have always thought this
@dianam8596
@dianam8596 2 жыл бұрын
THISSS
@Alice-ib4cz
@Alice-ib4cz 4 жыл бұрын
They give me vibes of a boyfriend who’d constantly check their gf’s phone and make her stay away from any guy friends fr
@kxmmy1080
@kxmmy1080 4 жыл бұрын
Possessive pretty much, yeah
@tinkywinky4910
@tinkywinky4910 4 жыл бұрын
I know that they never confirmed it, but I think at one point people were saying that Ethan didn’t like one of Emma’s guys friends and even blocked him👀
@kxmmy1080
@kxmmy1080 4 жыл бұрын
Maddie V oh Yh I heard of that before
@sofiaguerrero0969
@sofiaguerrero0969 4 жыл бұрын
They’re controlling. They give me woman beater vibes
@jamiezepeda1117
@jamiezepeda1117 4 жыл бұрын
grayson always gave me that vibe
@syd7422
@syd7422 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan seems like such a genuine guy. I feel so bad that he’s getting so much hate
@katrinakolada1066
@katrinakolada1066 4 жыл бұрын
They’re grown adults that don’t need to be told right from wrong. It’s sad how they treated a loyal friend of 15 years. I started seeing through them awhile & stopped watching just because of that reason. They aren’t genuine, they have no follow through, & definitely aren’t gonna change 😂 No more views from me🤪
@AdrianaGarcia-vw9de
@AdrianaGarcia-vw9de 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that they treat this girl like property....
@breannam7643
@breannam7643 4 жыл бұрын
It was a sad day when the Dolan twins turned into brad and chad from frat alpha beta theta frat :(
@rickschick7
@rickschick7 4 жыл бұрын
I cackled
@churmykahiuptouce1067
@churmykahiuptouce1067 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, they shipped him out because Ethans girlfriend is living with them 💀 bruh, the twins needa reeeeellllaaaaaaxxxxx!!!! They dont know how to act period! 💀
@issy.17
@issy.17 4 жыл бұрын
Yoooo I never thought of it like that omg ur prob right 😳
@breannajones1922
@breannajones1922 4 жыл бұрын
maybe this is why the sister squad didn't survive dramageddon?
@rachaelmends3582
@rachaelmends3582 4 жыл бұрын
Oh a 10000000% why
@miasmith9395
@miasmith9395 4 жыл бұрын
Rachael Mends no it was because Tati made false claims about James and then Ethan, Grayson and Emma didn’t wanna get involved so they stopped being friends with James and Ethan, Emma and Grayson made videos together but felt bad posting without James so they stopped all together.
@Kenyamtz5
@Kenyamtz5 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like they should separate from each other for a time...
@4theLoveofCurls
@4theLoveofCurls 4 жыл бұрын
They seem to be very co-dependent.
@Upwardcode
@Upwardcode 4 жыл бұрын
Very much...its so unhealthy that they feel like they can't leave each other..what are they gonna do when they have wives and kids.... or just get to the point where its not the cute teenage twin stuff...they are getting older, grow up.
@lizzie17214
@lizzie17214 4 жыл бұрын
That’s what I was thinking. I feel like they can treat anyone any sort of way because they have each other.
@Upwardcode
@Upwardcode 4 жыл бұрын
​@@lizzie17214 exactly what i was also thinking, they know that if they push everyone else away they would still have each other. Which is unfair to their loyal friends or people trying to be. I would like to see what is going to happen now that Ethan has a girlfriend and the fact that she will be living with them.
@miasmith9395
@miasmith9395 4 жыл бұрын
Reneisha Williams I’m not saying what they are doing is right, but if u are a twin you would understand that it’s very difficult to “split apart” from ur twin. & it’s lowkey insensitive to say “how unhealthy it is” to someone who is a twin because they are the other half of you.
@quirkless8422
@quirkless8422 4 жыл бұрын
I now see why the sister squad split up 👀 *sips tea 🍵*
@jamiezepeda1117
@jamiezepeda1117 4 жыл бұрын
all of us thinking it was because of james 🤡
@sprig.sprout
@sprig.sprout 4 жыл бұрын
You can’t trust anyone with a mustache like that 👨🏻
@dirtydiana729
@dirtydiana729 4 жыл бұрын
Not the mustache 💀💀💀
@hotinjeongthanks2418
@hotinjeongthanks2418 4 жыл бұрын
its so clapped HELP- 😭🏃🏽‍♀️
@sexualtaco308
@sexualtaco308 4 жыл бұрын
I- 😭💀
@tiani8559
@tiani8559 4 жыл бұрын
PLEASEEEE💀💀
@rxe997
@rxe997 4 жыл бұрын
LMFAOOAAO
@alya8931
@alya8931 4 жыл бұрын
Wow they are really out here accusing their OWN friend of sending info and other stuff to fans. Plus Greyson mad that the girl walk and talk to Ryan about his own personal problems!!! Like what kind of friends would do that to a friend that they know for 15 YEARS, not 1 or 2 but 15 years of friendship. I use to love the twins but this is a huge no no for me
@kiarraanton1020
@kiarraanton1020 4 жыл бұрын
I used to be a really big fan of the twins like I was obsessed but now I feel like they are so fake and and always in drama and it sucks cuz they have been my role models for the longest time😭
@ThomasinaJefferson-ke7xs
@ThomasinaJefferson-ke7xs 4 жыл бұрын
Kiarra Anton Ew, ROLE MODELS?!? Child, WHY?!?! 😂🤦‍♀️
@kiarraanton1020
@kiarraanton1020 4 жыл бұрын
Bryn Diesel i dont know ok I was 11 when I started watching them lmao
@user-ip5vu8om8n
@user-ip5vu8om8n 4 жыл бұрын
Bryn Diesel they were really good role models in like 2017-2018 they were hella positive and seemed so genuine. idk wtf happened
@wesley2161
@wesley2161 4 жыл бұрын
This is why you shouldn't stan someone based off of their looks...
@4theLoveofCurls
@4theLoveofCurls 4 жыл бұрын
But they're not even cute...
@yasmine6904
@yasmine6904 4 жыл бұрын
True
@wesley2161
@wesley2161 4 жыл бұрын
Lashon James-Major I’ve always said that, but don’t let their 10 year old fans see that.
@juno3281
@juno3281 4 жыл бұрын
wes ley i hate bashing peoples looks but they literally look like every other white guy 🧍🏽‍♀️ their looks are so mediocre JSNSBSBSJ
@clxudyjj9675
@clxudyjj9675 4 жыл бұрын
Who said they were attractive their 9yr old fans they aren’t even that cute episode did them even dirtier tho sbajsnsu
@annoyed0094
@annoyed0094 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan was smart to get out of that toxic friendship...👏
@ThomasinaJefferson-ke7xs
@ThomasinaJefferson-ke7xs 4 жыл бұрын
I really wanna know what Dumb and Dumber are so paranoid about the world finding out .... 🤨🧐
@cathyvillarreal7412
@cathyvillarreal7412 4 жыл бұрын
Right like what’s so bad that they had to search Ryan’s phone? 👀👀
@kloe6095
@kloe6095 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like one of them lowkey had a thing with Ryan possibly idk I just get a vibe 😂
@haley1718
@haley1718 4 жыл бұрын
Khloe Bell lmaoooooo that would be funny
@ThomasinaJefferson-ke7xs
@ThomasinaJefferson-ke7xs 4 жыл бұрын
Khloe Bell I think the two btec Elvis’ are in love with eachother and SOMEBODY walked in on them .... 🤷‍♀️
@user-ug2oz8fj1q
@user-ug2oz8fj1q 4 жыл бұрын
Bryn Diesel oh my godddd-
@leiamadison_8190
@leiamadison_8190 4 жыл бұрын
to me it seems like ryan genuinely loves the twins but the twins only “ love” ryan when it’s in their benefit.
@GwenChan7
@GwenChan7 4 жыл бұрын
It's really sad, I used to be a big fan. But now it's upsetting that they've subcummed to drama, click baiting, ruining friendships, and are not genuine.
@suhanisookoo1979
@suhanisookoo1979 4 жыл бұрын
Same. I still like them but it's hard to support anything they do, if this is who they really are.
@eleanorhill9968
@eleanorhill9968 4 жыл бұрын
All I know is friends don’t kick out friends over taking a walk with someone 😐
@Rozelelle
@Rozelelle 4 жыл бұрын
The thing with them is that they always say they're gonna change and be themselves and things like that when they are in trouble and that dose NOT happen ever
@ozgardea8782
@ozgardea8782 4 жыл бұрын
The Dolan Twins have trust issues that need to be dealt with cause it ain’t cute
@tatig544
@tatig544 4 жыл бұрын
it’s so sad seeing the dolan twins hard core fans bringing up mistakes ryan has used in the past just to protect the twins
@clxudyjj9675
@clxudyjj9675 4 жыл бұрын
Wow apparently he can’t talk to girls while with the Dolan twins because they will get pissed 👩🏾‍🦽 who gave them fame I just wanna talk
@JKARAZMOJML
@JKARAZMOJML 4 жыл бұрын
Vine- too bad you cant talk they got rid of themselves but youtube can talk.. lol cancel dolans 2020
@helpidroppedmydignity6138
@helpidroppedmydignity6138 4 жыл бұрын
These two lowkey keep jumping through friends...who really is the problem here?
@dian_nlina
@dian_nlina 4 жыл бұрын
The Dolan Twins have always been problematic, its just now we actually hear about it
@loverslanex41
@loverslanex41 4 жыл бұрын
I love your profile pic 😍
@dian_nlina
@dian_nlina 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you💜✨ love yours tooo
@jt03336
@jt03336 4 жыл бұрын
When I talked to my friends(who is a literal dolan twins stan) about this, she literally called ryan a clout chaser and that she forgives them. I honestly never was a fan of the Dolan twins or will be in the future.
@naikahara
@naikahara 4 жыл бұрын
So they thought being in drama was fun when mr Kate was receiving a lot of unwarranted hate because of them cause they got almost no backlash from that situation but now that even their own fans are done with their shit suddenly it isn't fun anymore? Ok, sure
@ariannawoodman3251
@ariannawoodman3251 4 жыл бұрын
They are Turning into Logan Paul with the vlogs and podcast
@MsSalisha13
@MsSalisha13 4 жыл бұрын
Rather watch LP
@emma2613
@emma2613 4 жыл бұрын
Second Spilly is keeping me entertained at home
@SpillSesh
@SpillSesh 4 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️
@imogeno.3061
@imogeno.3061 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpillSesh looks like someone wants to be kicked out by the Dolan twins
@soobinsbestie3536
@soobinsbestie3536 4 жыл бұрын
@@imogeno.3061 💀
@sarahsmith-xc8db
@sarahsmith-xc8db 4 жыл бұрын
Spill Sesh whoa watch out with those two red hearts
@jayjohnson2035
@jayjohnson2035 4 жыл бұрын
@@sarahsmith-xc8db she's showing some love to her fans
@vvvvain
@vvvvain 4 жыл бұрын
The more of themselves and their lives that they show the more we see just how toxic and problematic they are 😳
@smdella690
@smdella690 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like that they are only relevant because they are “good looking”
@Ruby-xk8kn
@Ruby-xk8kn 4 жыл бұрын
Its sure not because of their peronality haha. They aren't even cute i dont get it, the twin thing is their only defining characteristic.
@PekebunMager
@PekebunMager 4 жыл бұрын
I think their friend ryan is much more cuter than those two combined
@hotinjeongthanks2418
@hotinjeongthanks2418 4 жыл бұрын
theyve gotten uglier to me as more problematic things abt them started coming out
@mic6240
@mic6240 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when they used to make fun of “LA people” and say everybody was entitled and fake... well....
@itsneil8581
@itsneil8581 4 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't have taken ownership if ryan hadn't spoken out first. And did they address the mr.kate issue?
@jademoran2638
@jademoran2638 4 жыл бұрын
What’s mr Kate
@itsneil8581
@itsneil8581 4 жыл бұрын
@@jademoran2638 mr.kate the interior designer , dolan twins said she used chairs from walmart and called it Italian. It was not true. So i was asking if they mentioned the mistake or not.
@jessicaoladele6381
@jessicaoladele6381 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan already responded to their podcast and said they only took part ownership
@beemax2014
@beemax2014 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly after this whole situation, I’m starting to see the Dolan Twins are the common denominator in all of the fallouts they’ve had. They seem like they throw the stones and hide their hands.
@nothanku2010
@nothanku2010 4 жыл бұрын
How would it be a mutual agreement when Ryan clearly had plans for living with E & G and he also was going to drop out of school bc of those plans? Ryan definitely felt pressured to agree to leave bc they had already been mad at him and threatened to kick him out already
@aidaberberian
@aidaberberian 4 жыл бұрын
they just keep on digging deeper holes for themselves dont they... hi spilly!
@maera415
@maera415 4 жыл бұрын
Maureen Chibili 😭😭😭😭
@gabrielalopes7498
@gabrielalopes7498 4 жыл бұрын
The Dolan twins are shady and they are finally admitting it themselves
@ValerieTheMage
@ValerieTheMage 4 жыл бұрын
Well, it seems that the sisters squad ended for TWO reasons really similars
@chillinwithrachel
@chillinwithrachel 4 жыл бұрын
Spill Sesh: posts Everyone: RUSHES TO COMMENTS I make vidzz
@josiebrenna6289
@josiebrenna6289 4 жыл бұрын
UGH WE LOVE A FAST SPILL QUEEN 🤪💞🥰 also can’t wait for the podcast tmrw!!
@SpillSesh
@SpillSesh 4 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️yayyyy
@maki55556
@maki55556 4 жыл бұрын
don’t understand the thirst for two stale loafs of white bread
@yumillai
@yumillai 4 жыл бұрын
LMFAOAOAO YES
@4theLoveofCurls
@4theLoveofCurls 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@jt03336
@jt03336 4 жыл бұрын
Same bruh.
@JessClare432
@JessClare432 4 жыл бұрын
people were attacking Ryan for making a video instead of dealing with it privately but I think he was 100% right about not having another choice. I fully believe that his video is the ONLY reason the twins addressed the situation at all on the podcast and would have just stayed silent and let people villainize him if he hadn’t made it. The twins are notorious for keeping quiet on drama unless they’re getting backlash
@janine7576
@janine7576 4 жыл бұрын
Being in drama was cool to them 😃 that’s crazy 😭
@bettyam9917
@bettyam9917 4 жыл бұрын
These guys really are getting lost without their father. It seems like their father was their moral compass and without him they are looking like immature boys.
@so723
@so723 4 жыл бұрын
Disgusted of Grayson acting like he has some entitlement over this girl that’s always just been a friend. I can’t imagine how he must act in a relationship. No wonder he’s always been single.
@katelynmaison4817
@katelynmaison4817 4 жыл бұрын
This is really sad because I really enjoyed the content the twins we putting out
@catherineh743
@catherineh743 4 жыл бұрын
So Grayson lost a good friend over a girl? He needs to get his priorities straight .... life isn’t all about find your significant other 😬
@bullymaguire9192
@bullymaguire9192 4 жыл бұрын
i’ve heard so many stories from people who went to elementary school and middle school with them saying they were just awful and rude people. i never really payed attention to it and assumed they were clout chasers but honestly i wouldn’t be surprised if they are as rude and they say
@pualsaint
@pualsaint 4 жыл бұрын
Lies (I haven't even watched the video yet but I already know they lying) Edit: also the fact that Grayson wanted to throw hands with Ryan is stupid like Ryan did wrestling professionally....Ryan would lay their a$$ out they need to stop. Ryan looks like he got hands 🤣🤣
@msdismay2260
@msdismay2260 4 жыл бұрын
Pual Saint exactly and didn’t Ryan break his back in high school?
@Undergoingchang3s
@Undergoingchang3s 4 жыл бұрын
Has everyone forgotten that Jefree literally said the Dolan Twins accused james of sexually harassing them behind the scenes and they were pressing charges and going to expose james and they never denied any of this??
@NnnnGjj611
@NnnnGjj611 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that could be a thing, but if it truly never happened and James didn't do anything then that's kinda crappy to not say anything. This is coming from a dolan twins fan
@Undergoingchang3s
@Undergoingchang3s 4 жыл бұрын
@@NnnnGjj611 it is a thing jefree star said that they said that and they didnt deny it they even went and unfollowed james I honestly dont think james did anything to them and they just wanted to be in the drama
@trizzzz4040
@trizzzz4040 4 жыл бұрын
the dolan twins talking about their mental health: poor us, we're stressed... also the dolan twins when their friend needs help with his own mental health: nah bruh.
@rix2367
@rix2367 4 жыл бұрын
me waiting for them to address the mr kate drama:🧍🏾‍♀️
@atarahbriggs
@atarahbriggs 4 жыл бұрын
ik they won’t do that
@nerdalert2782
@nerdalert2782 4 жыл бұрын
These twins are so weird. They also talk about female fans like they're their property. It's super wack.
@taliavoider
@taliavoider 4 жыл бұрын
OCD doesn’t make you manipulate your friends into seeing you so that you can search through their phone.
@itsfayechi
@itsfayechi 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, the good old “growing and changing” defense. A firm favorite.
@juliem6401
@juliem6401 4 жыл бұрын
They told Ryan to drop out of school?! And they WANTED to be involved in drama? I'm just gonna say it. I think they're stupid.
@xprincessmx8914
@xprincessmx8914 4 жыл бұрын
what really put me off and made me uncomfortable is when he thought he had the right to tell someone that he couldn’t date the girl he liked like let’s make one thing clear shes her own person and can date who she wants and be friends with who she wants if she did like your friend you can’t do nothing ab that you can’t really control your emotions you like who you like like there is no girl code or guy code my guy it’s common sense like you fighting your so called childhood friend over a girl who don’t even want you
@geekifychic
@geekifychic 4 жыл бұрын
Not getting how posting positive videos is taking accountability for mistreating their friend. But at the end of the day that’s on them and Ryan to work out and for Ryan to decide if the friendship is worth trying to ease the paranoia of people who don’t seem to have that many regrets on how they treated you and only seem to be regretful because the attempt to monetize the drama they created backfired. Personally I would have been done with the pair once a demand was made to go through my personal belongings like I’m a criminal, but that’s just me.
@suhanisookoo1979
@suhanisookoo1979 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@xostromyrixardoxo7758
@xostromyrixardoxo7758 4 жыл бұрын
Wait the twins actually addressing drama.... wow what a week... that was something I never expected
@whatsaliciadoing
@whatsaliciadoing 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Dolan twins, mainly Grayson, seems so obsessed with their masculinity. Every video they are comparing their muscles, they are talking about fighting Logan, and calling Logan “ a bitch” because he hasn’t responded. It’s also like they think they are entitled to things they don’t have.... this same thing happened to Aaron and Jack if y’all remember.
@sorose3080
@sorose3080 4 жыл бұрын
The Dolan twins owe Ryan a proper apology . Like 15 years of friendship and most of it seems like they treated him horribly .... they’ve truly showed how stuck up they are .
@anonymous1420
@anonymous1420 4 жыл бұрын
i don’t like how they’re using their mental health as a defense mechanism. i 100% agree that mental health can badly affect your life, but it should never be used as an excuse for being a bad person!
@crybabyashley86
@crybabyashley86 3 жыл бұрын
i know this is really late, but you’re absolutely correct. mental health issues give an explanation, not an excuse.
@evanrobles802
@evanrobles802 4 жыл бұрын
I can see Grayson being aggressive in most of the fights him and Ethan have Grayson is always super aggressive and seems to go from 0-100. Also Larry their friend has said on multiple occasions that Grayson is very “angry” and “aggressive”. This situation is very interesting
@Jack-gh9xb
@Jack-gh9xb 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly they seem like horrible people. They manipulated and abused Ryan and then used ptsd as an excuse for their bad behavior. While ptsd is a serious issue, it seems like they’re just using it to cover up their obvious emotional abuse and manipulation of Ryan. They tried to make him economically dependent on them, and then they were going to kick him to the curb. I don’t think people are realizing that they set him up to essentially have his life ruined.
@mariealysaruiz5040
@mariealysaruiz5040 4 жыл бұрын
my day feels complete after i watch a spilly video
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