Should You Hunt deer with 3 villagers or 4? (AoE2)

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Spirit Of The Law

Spirit Of The Law

Күн бұрын

A series of tests to see how the number of villagers on each dear impacts their efficiency.
0:20 Assumptions - wheelbarrow/bumping
0:48 Gather rates with 1-6 villagers close range (full table at 1:57)
2:18 Repeating test with deer 12 tiles away
3:22 "Should you mill with 2, 3, or 4 villagers?"
4:55 Best way to split up a group of 6 hunters?
7:00 Exceptions for Aztecs, Goths, Vikings, Mongols, and Mayans
8:04 Summary
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@mostwanted2390
@mostwanted2390 5 жыл бұрын
me: *hunts deer with 2 villagers* SpiritOfTheLaw: "Should you Hunt deer with 3 or 4 villagers?" me: F*CK
@unimportantcommenter4356
@unimportantcommenter4356 5 жыл бұрын
And then theres me who uses 5 villagers
@rianhadiutama1523
@rianhadiutama1523 5 жыл бұрын
Yes you can hunt deer for 2 villages but takes twice to get deplete
@poyloos4834
@poyloos4834 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh, I thought it was 6 vils needed for one trip. I wanna game-end myself
@gabrielgerhard9122
@gabrielgerhard9122 5 жыл бұрын
@@poyloos4834 that's for sheep
@TheFrankoalberto
@TheFrankoalberto 5 жыл бұрын
Well, the pros seems to use 2 villagers, but they also use the scout to lure the dear near the tc, so there's no wasting time walking or bumping into each other.
@noidontwantthat7237
@noidontwantthat7237 5 жыл бұрын
U know its gonna be a legendeery video when u see a moon walking deer 20 seconds into the video
@bigdiccmarty9335
@bigdiccmarty9335 5 жыл бұрын
A rare Michael Deerson cameo.
@yonokhanman654
@yonokhanman654 5 жыл бұрын
Oh deer, the puns.
@bigdiccmarty9335
@bigdiccmarty9335 5 жыл бұрын
Watch it there, Bucko
@Joelivingsten1667
@Joelivingsten1667 5 жыл бұрын
Me: sees "legendeery", stops reading immediately.
@noidontwantthat7237
@noidontwantthat7237 5 жыл бұрын
@@Joelivingsten1667 a wise choice.....but I cannot guarantee your survival
@lagg1e
@lagg1e 5 жыл бұрын
The real answer is forget to assign the villagers and let them stand next to the mill not doing anything until the enemy knights rush in.
@EaglebeakGaming
@EaglebeakGaming 5 жыл бұрын
lagg1e oh you have seen my streams Haven’t you...
@ahmedsorush3726
@ahmedsorush3726 5 жыл бұрын
@@EaglebeakGaming Don't show your profile picture to elephants
@mrkirby8622
@mrkirby8622 5 жыл бұрын
A simple work around for this is shoot the deer before you build the mill, they"ll auto task to the deer
@peterpeterson4800
@peterpeterson4800 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrkirby8622 And the deer is going to be half rotten by the time the mill is built.
@mrkirby8622
@mrkirby8622 5 жыл бұрын
@@peterpeterson4800 I mean... Obviously you use one vil on the mill and the rest on the deer... Thought that was obvious... Even if you don't... Building a mill with 4 vils is done before 10 food is rotten... So better than forgetting about ur vils either way...
@daledo8604
@daledo8604 5 жыл бұрын
You didn't consider the idle time after I forget about my deer hunters. Therefore 1 villager would be the most efficient since it leaves me with only 1 idle.
@Greywander87
@Greywander87 5 жыл бұрын
This might be a good reason to start on farms as soon as you can, even for those who are good at micro. I just wish you could have then infinitely reseed, instead of having to queue up a limited number of reseeds. Sounds like DE will have that feature, but DE also requires Windows 10, so...
@fentariahari9020
@fentariahari9020 5 жыл бұрын
@@Greywander87 what is DE?
@Greywander87
@Greywander87 5 жыл бұрын
@@fentariahari9020 Definitive Edition. The remake of the game with better graphics and some gameplay updates.
@HidekiShinichi
@HidekiShinichi 5 жыл бұрын
@@Greywander87 there is always a option of piratebay if you, like me, ripped out a microsoft store from your os. And I would say its worth to install windows 10 on a pc even if its ancient one. I preffer ltsc version
@whuzzzup
@whuzzzup 4 жыл бұрын
DE runs perfectly fine on W7.
@FlymanMS
@FlymanMS 5 жыл бұрын
I wish there was “Basic Education” tech in AoE that when researched prevents villagers from bumping into one another.
@DivinyGamesRTS
@DivinyGamesRTS 4 жыл бұрын
Research "Traffic Laws" for them aways walking at the right side of the way.
@C7S123R8P0M3
@C7S123R8P0M3 4 жыл бұрын
I like to think they would immediately become too polite and just fall into a cycle of "Oh I'm sorry, you go first" and "Oh no, my bad, you go first* and create eternal traffic jams lol
@nest1363
@nest1363 3 жыл бұрын
@@DivinyGamesRTS Left for the Brittons though
@yoyodude-aoe2726
@yoyodude-aoe2726 3 жыл бұрын
Social distancing is better
@nest1363
@nest1363 3 жыл бұрын
@@yoyodude-aoe2726 a social distanced way of queuing as an extra tech when you go imp? Matched with some random villager mortality from some point in time if you don’t opt for the tech? All depending on how fast you’re lumberjacking and thus bringing villagers closer to wildlife and potential zoogenesis... 🤔
@eccentrichorse11
@eccentrichorse11 5 жыл бұрын
Finally the age old question that has been plaguing humanity for years has been answered
@ekim613
@ekim613 5 жыл бұрын
applicable to EVERY sotl video.
@clandestin011
@clandestin011 5 жыл бұрын
We need an in depth video about the eagle warrior line!
@dominusalicorn3684
@dominusalicorn3684 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that would be nice. As the meso replacement for cavalry, how do they stack up against cavalry, as far as anti archer ability, speed, scouting (though I think he already did a video on that), cost/train-time, and of course, attack/hp?
@poyloos4834
@poyloos4834 5 жыл бұрын
Ya know, you have a good point
@_antares031
@_antares031 5 жыл бұрын
Even if I don't play AoE 2 nowadays, I still watch & support Spirit's video, since it's so interesting to watch :thumbsup:
@rodrigo-vl7bi
@rodrigo-vl7bi 5 жыл бұрын
I've never played aoe2 but I just love watching this channel
@mustafaoliwy282
@mustafaoliwy282 5 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigo-vl7bi that's wierd XD
@CristianBZ97
@CristianBZ97 5 жыл бұрын
Please, could you make a video comparing the 3 Eagle Warriors? Aztecs, Mayans and Incas with their Unique Tech.
@anhdunghisinh
@anhdunghisinh 5 жыл бұрын
I thought he already did it?
@nanox4
@nanox4 5 жыл бұрын
anh dung Pham where
@rianhadiutama1523
@rianhadiutama1523 5 жыл бұрын
For aztecs, Try spam more elite eagle warriors just like Goths
@laurivaisanen6918
@laurivaisanen6918 5 жыл бұрын
1 has hp , 1 has attack and 1 has armor. Dunno what to say after that. Or would you compare them vs every unit?
@DommHavai
@DommHavai 5 жыл бұрын
Against most melee units and high damage ranged units Mayans>Aztecs>Inca Against most archers Inca>Mayans>Aztecs
@Truetobi91
@Truetobi91 5 жыл бұрын
The very best strategy is to have 4 villagers gather food from deer and execute them whenever they autonomously split and start gathering as 2x2.
@JNCressey
@JNCressey 5 жыл бұрын
You mean split into gathering 4 deer individualy right?
@Truetobi91
@Truetobi91 5 жыл бұрын
@@JNCressey Nah it was meant as a joke because my vils keep splitting up when I don't have an eye on them for 4 seconds.
@hahadint
@hahadint 5 жыл бұрын
Next video idea “most efficient number of infantry units to attack a castle with”
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 5 жыл бұрын
100 militia, nothing less.
@JNCressey
@JNCressey 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to factor in that waiting longer to build up the army gives them more chance of researching murder holes.
@hukuando
@hukuando 5 жыл бұрын
Moon-walking dear at 0:16
@ekim613
@ekim613 5 жыл бұрын
Oh deer
@gorionus9812
@gorionus9812 5 жыл бұрын
@@ekim613 Oh deer indeed
@n8style
@n8style 5 жыл бұрын
Oh deer oh deer (chuckle brothers reference)
@sarahkatherine8458
@sarahkatherine8458 5 жыл бұрын
I am about to comment this :))
@legion2590
@legion2590 5 жыл бұрын
But what about tasking 3 villagers to 1 deer, looking away for a bit, and coming back to discover that after finishing the 1st deer each villager is working alone on a new deer because they each shot a different deer... effectively laming the herd and losing half the damn food to rot?!!!! It drives me crazy.
@ScientistDog
@ScientistDog 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I hate that. Maybe it i'll be fixed on DE since you can asign multiple task (like waypoints)
@Jartran72
@Jartran72 5 жыл бұрын
I mean cant you really look back to the vills after like 60 secs? Its not that much to ask of you. Dont blame the game if you are just incompetent. You cant blame something else for you not doing stuff properly
@legion2590
@legion2590 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jartran72 I was being playful knucklehead.
@fentariahari9020
@fentariahari9020 5 жыл бұрын
@@ScientistDog i'm sorry what is DE?
@WintersMinion
@WintersMinion 5 жыл бұрын
@@fentariahari9020 Definitive edition it's coming out in a few weeks it's supposed to have 4k ultra hd graphics, fully remastered sound track 3 new campaigns and 4 new civs. Bulgarians, Lithuanians, Cumans, and Tartars.
@genevievew.5837
@genevievew.5837 5 жыл бұрын
*Video was posted 17 seconds ago* Comments: LOVE IT!
@jurgnobs1308
@jurgnobs1308 5 жыл бұрын
i think patreon supporters get to see it earlier, no?
@Jartran72
@Jartran72 5 жыл бұрын
@@jurgnobs1308 dont bring logic into youtube comments. Morons dont appreciate it.
@RimaNari
@RimaNari 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that synopsis in the end. Even though I'm a science-y guy, I sometimes just want to enjoy the science thrown at me without having to digest it properly. A nice synopsis for practical use helps to make you walk away with a bit more concrete knowledge in your head, rather than this feeling of having learned a lot without being able to do anything practical with it.
@mthaygood3334
@mthaygood3334 5 жыл бұрын
Solution: research supremacy and use one villager
@craigwck7626
@craigwck7626 5 жыл бұрын
"Spanish music"
@zeroomega3781
@zeroomega3781 5 жыл бұрын
HE HEILA HEEEI
@galliman123
@galliman123 5 жыл бұрын
@@zeroomega3781 *CLAPCLAPCLAP*
@TheGeoCheese
@TheGeoCheese 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of which where’s our intro with supremacy villager? I miss seeing it ;-(
@11u510n15t
@11u510n15t 5 жыл бұрын
I always feel like I'm gonna learn something new with this BGM. I wonder why.
@HarrisNMeo
@HarrisNMeo 5 жыл бұрын
I spend more time watching your videos rather than just play AOE2, watching them is by far more fun! Love your videos, love this channel
@HeraAgeofEmpires2
@HeraAgeofEmpires2 5 жыл бұрын
Havent watched the vid yet but I (and most pros) hunt with 4 vils when we mill deer. Let's see if spirit > most pros
@wolfgangbr1576
@wolfgangbr1576 5 жыл бұрын
Viper always uses 3 ;)
@TheSpartanx9
@TheSpartanx9 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't played AoE2 in forever, however your videos are making me want to play it again. I always enjoy mechanic insights and being a casual back in my playing days this is making me realize all of the mistakes i used to make.
@Longknife
@Longknife 5 жыл бұрын
Next video: should you place houses 5 or 6 tiles away from the TC?
@HolyKhaaaaan
@HolyKhaaaaan 5 жыл бұрын
Or - do houses make better walls than Palisades?
@HECKproductions
@HECKproductions 5 жыл бұрын
or just be the viper and push the deer into the tc so that there is absolutely no walking and absolutely no bumping either
@peterpeterson4800
@peterpeterson4800 5 жыл бұрын
It's not that hard to do. A lot of people do that.
@AndrewTheFrank
@AndrewTheFrank 5 жыл бұрын
He will also send 2 villagers out on a long walk, as they return he retasks them to build camps or farms.
5 жыл бұрын
Or send 8 villagers, don't build mill, just retask them to something else as they come back to tc.
@brianthebarbarian7860
@brianthebarbarian7860 5 жыл бұрын
ASN Always send 4 Sometimes send 3 Never do 2 trips
@hukuando
@hukuando 5 жыл бұрын
EARLY FOR A SOTL VIDEO? THAT IS NOT COMMON. COULD THIS BE A GOOD OMEN? :D
@timothykurdt7645
@timothykurdt7645 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Might I suggest doing something similar for sheep? I see some other comments talking about 6 being ideal for sheep, but I prefer to use 7. Keep up the good work! see you in your next video!
@adamzou4786
@adamzou4786 5 жыл бұрын
I like how you explain everything so detail great work!
@PosiAttiGuy
@PosiAttiGuy 5 жыл бұрын
I have never played AoE in my life. I don't even like RTS games, yet I still keep watching your videos by the upload. Your content is so good I don't even need to know what it is about lmao
@mostwanted2390
@mostwanted2390 5 жыл бұрын
1 villager, 3 trips... Where can I buy that drug?!??
@f.c.laukhard3623
@f.c.laukhard3623 5 жыл бұрын
Let's develop a new designer drug and call it villager. That slogan will be our best ad then.
@erickcenteno7731
@erickcenteno7731 5 жыл бұрын
Men! That's a question I had been trying to solve for the last two decades!!!!
@joshua72555
@joshua72555 5 жыл бұрын
The answer is D 200 villagers CORRECT!!!
@masterbonzala
@masterbonzala 5 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine what that would look like XD
@IiPertI
@IiPertI 5 жыл бұрын
Quick answer: you need food, take 4 you will have 45-60 food more, you need food and wood, take 3 to deers (with micro)+ 1 wood. Thinking of what you need is a really good question for AoE players in game and it allows to handle eco.
@Invisableman111
@Invisableman111 5 жыл бұрын
Always been a 4-deer hunter myself so this makes me feel validated. Always wondered if 3 was somehow more effective, glad to know my strategy is worthwhile.
@Chooseyouruniquehandl
@Chooseyouruniquehandl 5 жыл бұрын
Pro tips: If you hunt deer with your TC, you don't have to waste time to collect the meat!
@JNCressey
@JNCressey 5 жыл бұрын
Especially useful in moving buildings mod.
@jamesrussell6638
@jamesrussell6638 5 жыл бұрын
We don't deserve you. You put so much effort into these, it's easy to see. Thank you
@Clerkius
@Clerkius 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent Choice!
@SuperMoine777
@SuperMoine777 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not a very skilled player, but I used my own logic on this problematic. What I usually do is sending eight villagers hunting a deer, then when they finished it, I immediately send them hunting a second nearby one, so they don't do the trip with half of their pockets full. (140 food - 15 decayed food) * 2 deers = 250 food. It takes approximately one minute thirty to finish both deers and bring the meat back (in the case of a far away hunting spot), and like I said, I use eight villagers : 250 food / 8 villagers / 1.5 minutes = 20.83 food. Recalculating it with only seven villagers, I found out that the effeciency would go from 20.83 to 23,33 food, for only a slight loss of 5 decayed food and a bit more time (something like 10-15 seconds). Am I missing a point somewhere, or does my method works both mathematically and concretely well ? It comes with a slight micromanagement at the mid-end Dark Age/early Feudal Age, but it always looked worth it to me.
@meneldal
@meneldal 4 жыл бұрын
I think there are 2 issues with this: first increased bumping between villagers and second making it more critical to babysit them. But it's probably efficient in case you can handle these two things well.
@ShadowCrystallux
@ShadowCrystallux 4 жыл бұрын
See I almost always ignored hunting deer before this as I thought it was super inefficient, this is super helpful!
@MiGluXHD
@MiGluXHD 5 жыл бұрын
I always use 3 or 4. This was rly helpful thanks!
@gonzalocarmona9664
@gonzalocarmona9664 5 жыл бұрын
Me: tries to pay attention seriously to the video to learn Video: 0:17 moonwalking deer Me: xd lmao lol
@gytisu2425
@gytisu2425 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, was wondering about the question a long time.
@eddygiron2390
@eddygiron2390 5 жыл бұрын
Oh dear!, all of this info it's so meticulous well thought through.
@pugs8773
@pugs8773 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do video on units and their counters? Or a video on what to attack first when attacking a base, (I.E. the enemy’s economy buildings or military buildings) either way keep the videos coming, I’m brand new to this game and they are helping me out a ton!!!!
@MajdFreiji
@MajdFreiji 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly what you need on a weekend, a 9 minute video about how to collect food from deer.
@DaftSpunky
@DaftSpunky 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, Spirit of the LA HIRE
@5950155
@5950155 5 жыл бұрын
always great insight...thanks Spirit
@roastghost901
@roastghost901 5 жыл бұрын
4 in dark age, 3 after wheelbarrow. Got it.
@jimmymarrs1556
@jimmymarrs1556 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’ve always wanted a video about this!
@HolyKhaaaaan
@HolyKhaaaaan 5 жыл бұрын
I see Pro players hurting their dear over to their Mills or their town centres with their Scouts. I am a less skilled player, and I don't have the time or the patience to do that, and even if I did, my economy would suffer. It's really great to get the numbers on this, and to a firm that I wasn't bogarting on villagers when I went for deer with three for each deer. Thank you for letting me know, though, that I shouldn't waste my time on the last 10 or so food on a deer if I'm only going to put three villagers on it. I remember from your video on the gulf that too was too few villagers, and four was too many. Though I can now see how for can be useful, if I want more food. I'd rather have them on sheep, berry bushes, and Farms, though, since Those things don't have as many drawbacks as hunting.
@andrewkln1486
@andrewkln1486 5 жыл бұрын
he's literally keeping the game alive I'm playing it again thanks to him . this man deserves a more support than he's getting now
@abcqer555
@abcqer555 5 жыл бұрын
love these videos so much. Great work!
@HarbingerIV
@HarbingerIV 5 жыл бұрын
I have additional questions regarding this topic; When is it worth building a mill next to deer, contra letting 4 villagers walk from town-center / other mill. How many tiles / deers for it to be worth it. Remember it is possible to chase deer into town with scout. Should you build mill with 1 villager and hunt with three for first deer while mill is building, or should you build mill with all four and then hunt? One thing i like to do is to take 8-9 villagers and go kill a boar, and then build a mill near deer afterwards. is it most efficient to do it that way, or should i do it the other way around?
@-Garaf-
@-Garaf- 5 жыл бұрын
Taking deer to the TC is more efficient but it takes more micro and you lose scouting time which isn't easy to factor here. Walking from TC to deer would mean a lot a time villagers not working (just walking to and from the deer) so unless they are very very close, it's not worth it I think doing the 1 vill build mill and the other 3 hunt first deer is good Boar i prefer taking it to TC with 1 vill early on (not micro heavy as pushing deer) but if you haven't yet, yeah i think you could go with 8 for it, build the mill and hunt the deer nearby (i think Scandinavia has this situation more often) Well this is all just my opinion, but hope it helps
@F0XD1E
@F0XD1E 5 жыл бұрын
Very thorough. We'll done!
@Der_Arathok
@Der_Arathok 5 жыл бұрын
So always use 4 villagers for one trip, gotcha! I never knew deer farming can be so detailed in depth!
@abhishekjain3148
@abhishekjain3148 5 жыл бұрын
6:43 I noticed you always cue this music when you are about to land with awesome ideas and advice.
@keiogaijin2155
@keiogaijin2155 3 жыл бұрын
Hey @Spirit Of The Law ! Great analysis, appreciate! Is the data still the same for DE?
@PieroBellanova
@PieroBellanova 5 жыл бұрын
I love this nerdiness!
@MarekBaczynski
@MarekBaczynski 5 жыл бұрын
I do appreciate the hours you spent on getting a deer to moonwalk for that half a second hidden joke. Totes worth it.
@zoglesar
@zoglesar 5 жыл бұрын
can you adress Black Forrest in general? I think alot of players are doing stupid things. When (i would say) 5-15% does ineffective or stupid things, it's time for somone to put it right. Here is some of the issues i encounter. 1. Using fishing ships in those small lakes. 2. walling towards their ally. 3. not walling (when to wall?) 4. not building markets in the corner or at the end of the map. 5. walking halfway across the map to cellect rescources. most of the times those are much closer to an ally. 6. forward castles. 7. walling on the wrong side of recourses most of the times relics. Maybe im stupid not using fishing ships or walling to early. Only you would know. Since you know evrything about the game and I love it. You've taught me so much
@freefallintoflames
@freefallintoflames 5 жыл бұрын
If you have something like 3+ shore fish in a pond, fishing ships are worth it. Their collection rate isn't that great, but the fact that you can produce eco units out of two buildings instead of one makes it worth it. You can also put them on fish traps later and still have good collection rates if you're playing the expansions.
@NiceMuslimLady
@NiceMuslimLady 5 жыл бұрын
I send out 8 vills to hunt. 2 deer per trip, one first, then the second. Get max food from deer.
@grimawormtongue1949
@grimawormtongue1949 Жыл бұрын
Who wants these videos? I want to get general advice on how it works, what to do... That's why people search this question. They want basic, concise advice.
@AndresOssa
@AndresOssa 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't played this game in ages. I don't really care aboot this game anymore. Still, great videos man. Hypnotic voice.
@HCGxreaver
@HCGxreaver 5 жыл бұрын
Man you really know alot about this game.
@mrsirman2177
@mrsirman2177 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like I shouldn't know this in order to not stress and just enjoy the game
@RomaInvictusSPQR
@RomaInvictusSPQR 5 жыл бұрын
great vid, so nice that there are still so many things to learn :D
@tsaqifqinurarif9325
@tsaqifqinurarif9325 5 жыл бұрын
truly a philosophical question
@Jart988
@Jart988 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Spirit, very cool
@GarnuThorn
@GarnuThorn 5 жыл бұрын
@SpiritOfTheLaw One meta I'm going to test out is herding, maybe you could, too!
@MattLong6
@MattLong6 5 жыл бұрын
Spirit of the law, could you look into what qualifies as a battle event on the timeline in the achievements
@lilwonka
@lilwonka 5 жыл бұрын
Love your vids. I can get my AoE2 fix. Don't really have time for the micro required to play effectively
@micahbonewell5994
@micahbonewell5994 5 жыл бұрын
What about Berbers with faster walking speed?
@nathanbrown8680
@nathanbrown8680 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously you should use 4 because that's how many farms fit nicely around the mill after the deer have been hunted out.
@guiltazaour2871
@guiltazaour2871 5 жыл бұрын
start collecting with each villager, not all at once, one by one will go back one by one and maybe this work with 3-4 depends on distance
@diegoperez1238
@diegoperez1238 5 жыл бұрын
The most important thing is using the villager maximum capacity. If you see that deer is only 45 food left just sent one, swith the rest of them to farms, wood or whatever your build order requires.
@Unethrorpe
@Unethrorpe 5 жыл бұрын
Such good. Thanks SotL.
@EquiliMario
@EquiliMario 5 жыл бұрын
I don't play this game. But the math intrigues me.
@LELAZYDRAGON
@LELAZYDRAGON 5 жыл бұрын
www.euclidea.xyz/ Your welcome :)
@JL-ti3us
@JL-ti3us 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man; just wanted to ask you where you got your channel name from? It doesnt have anything to do with montesques 1748 Spirit of Laws does it?
@AndrewTheFrank
@AndrewTheFrank 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't deer hunting usually done in Dark Age or early Feudal? At this point you wont have wheelbarrow and you are probably looking to have food/min to tech up asap. This gets into what The Viper always tends to do. Send 2 villagers to kill deer, as they drop off food he re-tasks them to build a camp or farm. When you don't have villagers or resources to spare, you wont be building a second mill by the deer, and if you want to build a camp, mill, farm or barracks soon after hunting that 3rd or 4th villager could have been collecting resources (such as wood) during that hunt time. That is to say that once the boars are gone you should be getting food from sheep, berries and deer while you are trying to build up wood for your first farms.
@mr_jalapeno_ancient
@mr_jalapeno_ancient 5 жыл бұрын
This guy makes math stuff in game i played when i was 8.. This is how you get my respect
@abhishekjain3148
@abhishekjain3148 5 жыл бұрын
0:10 ahh... this scene reminds me the first time I played AoE2 10 years ago....😅😅I didn't know about the man at arms and crossbows then. But still managed to complete it.
@jacob933
@jacob933 5 жыл бұрын
I thought u were suppose to hunt it with 6, I often mill the berries, then go and pull a boar to the berry mill, take the boar, then go to the deer with the boar vills, then go to berries(if deer are not near berries, I will mill the deer versus the berries first). The villagers doing the boar/deer have less time often going back to berries or another resource then if u had to build 2 mills(i.e, berries and deer). If the difference is such little food(i.e 1-2 food a minute difference, the idle time of villagers walking back from a mill on deer more then compensates if u just use the same 6 for boar/deer/berries.
@freefallintoflames
@freefallintoflames 5 жыл бұрын
Pulling a boar to the mill is not a good idea, it's much more efficient under the TC because villagers can drop off food without bumping. It's also easier to have more on the boar that way.
@Ayakinim
@Ayakinim 5 жыл бұрын
In dark age you need minimum idle time and consistent food stream to sustain villager production and race to hit the feudal button. That's why you need to lure the boar to the tc. If you have a basic economy already established, then you're absolutely correct on all points.
@-Raylight
@-Raylight 5 жыл бұрын
But what if you hunt Elephants instead of Deers?
@ahmedsorush3726
@ahmedsorush3726 5 жыл бұрын
You don't hunt elephants, you just convert them
@-Raylight
@-Raylight 5 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedsorush3726 There are wild huntable elephants, not war elephants (gives you 300 foods) It's like wild boar
@alexdiezg
@alexdiezg 5 жыл бұрын
Question: Should you hunt deer with 3 villagers or 4? Regular answer: If you have wheelbarrow, 3. If not, 4. If no wheelbarrow but want max gather rate, 3 + use some micro. SOTL: 8:50 long video
@SpiritOfTheLaw
@SpiritOfTheLaw 5 жыл бұрын
Life's about the journey, not the destination
@qwertzuio4295
@qwertzuio4295 5 жыл бұрын
I like to watch the process of getting the answers, I don't even play aoe2.
@noidontwantthat7237
@noidontwantthat7237 5 жыл бұрын
What u just said is the short answer but there must be some sort of explanation behind it, but that's a tough work to figure out, so SOTL is here to save the day
@personaslates
@personaslates 5 жыл бұрын
Kids these days complain videos are too long, i prefer a longer video if i'm going to watch videos.
@alexdiezg
@alexdiezg 5 жыл бұрын
​@@personaslates "Kids" It was simply a joke. Same goes for every comment above excluding SOTL.
@palanikumar7877
@palanikumar7877 5 жыл бұрын
@Spirit of the Law I have a doubt I remember you explain about "Lanchester's Laws". Will a base unit let's call it "X" be better if the X has it's attack and hit points be doubled be better than 2 X (Base unit)? My question is based on a Homecity card from AOE3 that makes Chinese chu ko nu and spearman have 100% Hitpoints and Attack but makes the unit cost double as well. How does this card work?
@Ayakinim
@Ayakinim 5 жыл бұрын
Lanchester's Law doesn't explain this scenario. You have to use salvo theory. But yes, one unit with dbl stats is better than 2 with half stats because it won't die mid-fight. With 2 units, one of them will die and when this happens, your total atk stat is halved.
@Thomas-dd8xs
@Thomas-dd8xs 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your effort and hold this video very deer to me.
@JSTM2000
@JSTM2000 4 жыл бұрын
I think 2 total villagers might be the best for a lazy person like me as they can never form groups of 3 even if they decide to split across different deer. No bumping, no need for micro, just forget about them and their gathering rates are almost identical when compared to a group of 3 but you can have that extra villager do something else. It would've been interesting to see more stats about 2 gatherers but I get it that it's not the most competitive strategy. Especially after Wheelbarrow, 3 has to be the best even for this lazy strategy.
@tommyhakansson5066
@tommyhakansson5066 5 жыл бұрын
Would be fun to see you play some more games😊
@hbarudi
@hbarudi 5 жыл бұрын
When I put several groups of 4 villagers per deer and go back to find out unequal numbers of villagers and so many slaughtered deer decaying away or even the ai player walking across half of the map for hunting to put the food back in their distant town center or mill...
@MegaFarinato
@MegaFarinato 5 жыл бұрын
But the real question is... whats the point of carrying meat to a mill? meat bread?
@Pengon88
@Pengon88 5 жыл бұрын
I would also argue that, if you have 4 villagers before wheelbarrow, you could put 4 into a deer and get between 15 and 25 more food than 3, or put 3 on the deer and the last onto a farm, in which it can collect this New food with similar efficiency to 4 villagers, and while providing more food in the long run
@Ayakinim
@Ayakinim 5 жыл бұрын
The fourth vill contributes more food and faster food than a farm and also doesn't need wood to build the farm.
@ramiel7666
@ramiel7666 5 жыл бұрын
Is it a viable strategy to destroy forests around your enemies, so they run out of wood?
@Weldedhodag
@Weldedhodag 2 жыл бұрын
the only time I use more than 4 villagers on a deer is if I'm on black forest and planning on using 3 berry villagers plus the deer hunters to collect a sounder of boar later on and I run out of berries before deer, which usually only happens if I manage to lame some sheep.
@hemogoblin3076
@hemogoblin3076 5 жыл бұрын
You are the best kind of nerd sir!
@agreeable_frog
@agreeable_frog 5 жыл бұрын
Answer 4 : you max your population with villagers and send all of them
@pete26196
@pete26196 5 жыл бұрын
What about with no walking distance? It's very common to see deer pushed under TC's to maximise efficiency, and with no walk time I'd be interested to know how that changes things. As an extension from this, deer are usually pushed at a point when you are taking sheep / boar and need to take villagers away from this to collect from the deer - sometimes as few as 6 vills, sometimes 10+ on food. Since you want to minimise decay by finishing an animal asap is more villagers overall more efficient here?
@Ayakinim
@Ayakinim 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Since it's already under the TC anyway, you don't have any problem with efficiency and can saturate it with vills. If you want to minimize decay then put all your vills on the thingy that will finish gathering faster (usually the sheep, unless your boar has some food left). If you want to maximize gathering speed, then put as many vills as you can on the boar/deer because they gather faster and let the sheep rot.
@OverlordARG
@OverlordARG 5 жыл бұрын
I don´t even play AoE...but God dammit do I LOVE these videos
@valet2972
@valet2972 5 жыл бұрын
Hey spirit, are you going to make a vid about the aoe2 de showmatch?
@Schlafanzugmen
@Schlafanzugmen 4 жыл бұрын
The moonwalking deer was the best in the video at 0:17
@luggy9256
@luggy9256 5 жыл бұрын
A good video overall but I feel like it was rushed and missing the complex maths we expect and love from a SOTL video, was hoping for more in-depth stuff for goths, aztecs and mayans as well as distance calcs, when to mill the deer (also how many to make it more wood efficient than farming when milling deer further from your tc) Ah well at least it answered the basics I guess
@EaglebeakGaming
@EaglebeakGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Alastair Lugg are you daring to say it is not “mathy” enough?
@blackavant9405
@blackavant9405 5 жыл бұрын
I found your channel two days ago and it looks promising really, i have been playing Age of empires 1-2 from a long time, but i didn't see Age of empire's 3? I guess you didn't like it? I found it really intertaining and i think the most powerful nation is the Ottoman empire maybe you wanna try it someday.
@tdbbe
@tdbbe 5 жыл бұрын
reads title, think - life's questions..
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