Boyars or Knights?

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Spirit Of The Law

Spirit Of The Law

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@encoreperformance1081
@encoreperformance1081 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Spirit Of The Law, Guys Here.
@kln5705
@kln5705 3 жыл бұрын
I second this. I am part of The Guys.
@encoreperformance1081
@encoreperformance1081 3 жыл бұрын
@@kln5705 Yay, welcome to the team
@dylanstebeleski9715
@dylanstebeleski9715 3 жыл бұрын
Full agreement, let’s get this trending
@TheHUEZOX
@TheHUEZOX 3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@cloudchaser8650
@cloudchaser8650 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys of the spirit, law here.
@Duke_of_Lorraine
@Duke_of_Lorraine 3 жыл бұрын
The boyar uses a bardiche on horseback. He has been playing Warband for some time, clearly.
@chingamfong
@chingamfong 3 жыл бұрын
Vaegir sucks. Swadian knight FTW!
@Duke_of_Lorraine
@Duke_of_Lorraine 3 жыл бұрын
@@chingamfong Long live our good King Harlaus the Fat ! Best banquets in all of Calradia !
@pattonramming1988
@pattonramming1988 3 жыл бұрын
You'd be suprised what Vaegirs can do with a decent strategist
@chingamfong
@chingamfong 3 жыл бұрын
@@pattonramming1988 IMO any warband factions can win a battle with a good plan. Only exception being Khergits in a siege
@poilboiler
@poilboiler 3 жыл бұрын
@@chingamfong Just put enough horses on the walls and it'll work out great.
@SealionPrime
@SealionPrime 3 жыл бұрын
Well boyars look way cooler than knights so that has to count for something
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 3 жыл бұрын
YOU BETTER BET YOUR DAMN ASS IT DOES. >:) I always go for them if I play Slavs. Never bothered upgrading the Knight line, just trained Boyars in the Castles and used Stables mostly to occasionally train the Scout-line.
@michaeltaylor8698
@michaeltaylor8698 3 жыл бұрын
Boyar: "you're weak" Teutonic Paladin: "I'm you"
@informitas0117
@informitas0117 3 жыл бұрын
Boyar: kill me! Teutonic Paladin: no kill me!
@oom-3262
@oom-3262 3 жыл бұрын
If you kill boyar He will die. Hmm. Maybe.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
Also Teutonic Knight: But slower and more well known to old fans.
@p.alterego3424
@p.alterego3424 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359 did thez lower armor _ i had much higher numbers in mind ... but i played the game 10 years ago ^^
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
@@p.alterego3424 I can see what you mean.
@artsenor254
@artsenor254 3 жыл бұрын
Great perspective, I even think it's unfair to consider that the boyar only "keeps pace" with paladin after having compared it to the best paladins in the game. Having a cavalry unit able to 1v1 a Frank or Teuton paladin for basically the same price already sounds like a more than ok option to me, even with the lesser raiding potential taken into account.
@MrMorvana
@MrMorvana 3 жыл бұрын
On paper, yes. In practice, the need for castles makes it a mediocre choice. To be able to use them as your main gold unit, you need to be able to build a lot of castles, which can already be tricky (and not enough if your enemy is able to use a lot more stables), but can even be a death sentence if at one time you are pushed back and some of your castles are destroyed. You can build 10 stables in a few minutes, but you will already have invested all your stone in castles, so you will permanently be weakened. It's a HUGE weakness well known of the Mongol players, who at least have one of the most OP units to compensate for this problem, which isn't the case of the boyard. But at least, the boyard has a very good place in castle age.
@artsenor254
@artsenor254 3 жыл бұрын
Fair point. I tend to value production time a bit less when it comes to such expensive units, but I guess it makes a lot of sense.
@Septimus_ii
@Septimus_ii 3 жыл бұрын
They do well in a straight fight against top paladins, but they're slightly worse against a lot of other units. I still think they're a very viable option if you can afford to keep making heavy cavalry
@MrMorvana
@MrMorvana 3 жыл бұрын
@@Septimus_ii That the problem, there is a lot of conditions to make them good as your main cav. The same as Paladins AND having a lot of castles AND not many archers in front of you. With so many conditions, which unit isn't a viable choice?
@zachariastsampasidis8880
@zachariastsampasidis8880 3 жыл бұрын
Heavy cavalry almost never fights other heavy cavalry in a pure melee anyway. I don't get why people compare unit A with unit A' when they are extremely similar Vs each other rather in their intended roles
@marcomongke3116
@marcomongke3116 3 жыл бұрын
Spirits voice seems to have an iambic pentameter or something similar to make me feel so relaxed.
@jodeer3232
@jodeer3232 3 жыл бұрын
True
@Sadvillain22
@Sadvillain22 3 жыл бұрын
Nerd
@jishb2505
@jishb2505 3 жыл бұрын
I have slept with him talking in the background many times. Great ASMR
@lordclickbait1721
@lordclickbait1721 3 жыл бұрын
He should do audio books
@jaketaylor1031
@jaketaylor1031 3 жыл бұрын
He’s the bob ross of aoe
@geebster.
@geebster. 3 жыл бұрын
I know this isnt part of the comparison but every boyar I've ever met was kind of an asshole. On the other hand I've seen knights help old ladies cross the road.
@feetus6548
@feetus6548 3 жыл бұрын
chivalry isn't dead with the knights
@christianholzschuh6853
@christianholzschuh6853 3 жыл бұрын
Are you shure about that? kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4i7gZWip72opMk
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 3 жыл бұрын
Frankly, I’ve got a serious axe to grind with people who say chivalry is dead.
@MarSHornetsandWasps-v26
@MarSHornetsandWasps-v26 3 жыл бұрын
Boyars are 100% Slav that's why
@vunguyenxuanhoang7422
@vunguyenxuanhoang7422 3 жыл бұрын
Boyars is high rank noble or even feudal lord.Why they need treat well with they mere peasant:v
@JJBeauregard1
@JJBeauregard1 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is about the Boyar, but man, Lithuanian Paladins with that 14 +8 just look so satisfying.
@Mordecai9052
@Mordecai9052 3 жыл бұрын
its very satisfying. back them up with trash units for a good army.
@whitehavencpu6813
@whitehavencpu6813 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mordecai9052 Ye, Liths essentially get Boyar if u put in 2+ relics. That's 2 Unique units in one civ lol. Tho Slav's focus is more on infantry with that bonus splash damage of Druzinha tech. They're an infantry civ.
@unclebence7752
@unclebence7752 Жыл бұрын
2 years later its no longer :C
@hashbrownz1999
@hashbrownz1999 Жыл бұрын
@@unclebence7752 f
@dwarow2508
@dwarow2508 3 ай бұрын
​​@@whitehavencpu6813 I mean the Boyar still beats Lith Paladins even with 4 Relics
@manafox2550
@manafox2550 3 жыл бұрын
"Maybe it depends." -AoE2 in a nutshell.
@zhiz3074
@zhiz3074 3 жыл бұрын
8:50 you mean Paladin takes 60 arrows?
@SpiritOfTheLaw
@SpiritOfTheLaw 3 жыл бұрын
Oops, good call
@frankseward7017
@frankseward7017 3 жыл бұрын
@@SpiritOfTheLaw btw. Do i smell a slav overview??
@TheKobasen
@TheKobasen 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, how come it's 12 hours ago?
@roy-swampy-07
@roy-swampy-07 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheKobasen LMAO 😁😁
@lightingman117
@lightingman117 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheKobasen patreon
@DIChronicAddict1
@DIChronicAddict1 3 жыл бұрын
This video was just perfect. All the comparisons I wanted, all the details and a sensible attitude towards gold costs. A HUGE improvement over similar videos from 2-3 years ago.
@pablovirus
@pablovirus 3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos man, I don't even play AoE2 anymore but it's awesome how you analyze the finer details of the game
@t-menthe5078
@t-menthe5078 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that I really like about boyars, is that the elite upgrade (that basically gives you Paladins) is only 1000F+600G in only 60s against 1600F+1050G in 270s for paladins. The cost is less and that time window is MASSIVE ! (to compare, researching imp is 190s) Getting fast 3+4 pierce armor once hitting imp is really sweet, especially in team games when opponents arbalests are already on the fields.
@whiteeagleforce2.040
@whiteeagleforce2.040 Жыл бұрын
You speak with words forged from silver, my friend.
@quakethedoombringer
@quakethedoombringer Жыл бұрын
I think you need to factoring in the fact that one usually have like 3-4 castles vs a dozen stables. While waiting for the Paladin upgrade you can spam out like a dozen Cavaliers. The resource advantage is a different story though
@vladimirlagos2688
@vladimirlagos2688 3 жыл бұрын
This comparisons videos are just awesome. This channel is a gem for the whole AoE2 community.
@RaynmanPlays
@RaynmanPlays 3 жыл бұрын
"The pupil of your eye can expand up to 55% when looking at something you love." 👁👁 "Spirit of the Law here..." ⚫⚫
@benfairlie3773
@benfairlie3773 3 жыл бұрын
11
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
"The Earth King invites you to Lake Laogai." You know what that means, fellow fan.
@benfairlie3773
@benfairlie3773 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359 I am honored to accept his invitation
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
@@benfairlie3773 ...That wasn't supposed to work, since that wasn't the exact code phrase. I deliberately misphrased so to ensure safety protocols. Anyways, SNAP OUT OF IT!!!
@JoelDiez
@JoelDiez 3 жыл бұрын
Boyars are like that bootleg version of what you can't find in the supermarket and you have to settle for, but ends up working nonetheless
@Ahmadabdal_
@Ahmadabdal_ 3 жыл бұрын
How dare you Boyars looks so cool
@kartiknikam3423
@kartiknikam3423 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ahmadabdal_ yes bro
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment lmao
@tomascanevaro4292
@tomascanevaro4292 3 жыл бұрын
-Mom can we have Paladin at home? -We already have Paladin at home -Paladin at home: Boyar
@he_carnation
@he_carnation 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomascanevaro4292 -Not bad, Mom
@AlexanderFaust1404
@AlexanderFaust1404 3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does SotL skip his Intro? Would be a shame. I love the Intro.
@michakupracz875
@michakupracz875 3 жыл бұрын
Some time ago he said that he will put intro into longer videos only.
@AlexanderFaust1404
@AlexanderFaust1404 3 жыл бұрын
@@michakupracz875 Thanks for the answer. Its still a shame.
@justxavier9999
@justxavier9999 3 жыл бұрын
When he said let’s check it out I habitually fast forwarded...
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 3 жыл бұрын
Intro needs to be on every video
@thegrapist777
@thegrapist777 3 жыл бұрын
As long as it starts "Hi guys, Spirit of the Law here" I am at peace.
@Imperiused
@Imperiused 3 жыл бұрын
Video ideas: What are the top ten Monk civilizations? What's the best mercenary unit (Genitour, Elite Skirm, Condottiero)? What's the best unique ship unit (Longship, Turtle Ship, Caravel)?
@onecoolswordr.r.7791
@onecoolswordr.r.7791 3 жыл бұрын
I love beating my friends in games with my knowledge of the game, that I get from channels like yours!
@oivinf
@oivinf 3 жыл бұрын
1:07 _"Boyars are much more expensive than stables"?_ I mean, I get that you're talking about the _castle,_ but still took a double take
@benfairlie3773
@benfairlie3773 3 жыл бұрын
Castle drop, 15s boyars
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 3 жыл бұрын
It's a noble that robs you blind as "payment for defending you" (from himself) either way.
@sauravtripathi4128
@sauravtripathi4128 3 жыл бұрын
A redo of civ review - Slav overview incoming
@SM-bb4hx
@SM-bb4hx 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. Old one is pretty outdated nowadays.
@sauravtripathi4128
@sauravtripathi4128 3 жыл бұрын
@@SM-bb4hx one of the more important reasons is free tracking has become free supplies which is actually useful and can help in a sustained man at arms rush.
@SM-bb4hx
@SM-bb4hx 3 жыл бұрын
@@sauravtripathi4128 Also the farming bonus was 7.5% in reality and did not have any affect after handcart researched. Now it is 13%+ before wheelbarrow, 12% after and 10% after handcart. This made them one of the best knight civ in game. And most importantly you have a particular game winning strategy. Previously it was kinda "meh" civ. Slavs became way stronger than what they were 5 years ago.
@bratan_archer
@bratan_archer 3 жыл бұрын
@@SM-bb4hx Yeah and I feel this overview slightly overlooks that since it's meant as a direct unit review. Slav Paladins would often be a better post-imp choice, but they lack them now. However, with the Slav farming bonus, Elite Boyars + Hussar are arguably better than any other civ doing Paladin + Hussar (save for Lithuanian relic bonus). The 5gold/unit higher cost is offset by cheaper (and much faster) upgrade than Cavalier + Paladin.
@darthleader5806
@darthleader5806 3 жыл бұрын
@@SM-bb4hx do you believe that slavs would be better than Franks at scouts into knights or fast castle into knights around 1.1k elo 1v1 Arabia?
@kwantator
@kwantator 3 жыл бұрын
SotL: Boyars or Knights? Me: 1
@XTheLolX301
@XTheLolX301 3 жыл бұрын
So I played aoe (3 of them) when I was a kid, but i stopped playing it around 15, but I started seeing ur videos 4 years ago, even if I wasnt playing , still helped me to dont forget the tips and information. Now I got the definitive edition at 24 this year and started to play again, and im not so bad because ur channel helped me a lot
@jordibt1789
@jordibt1789 3 жыл бұрын
Why the correct answer is nerver Mamelukes? :'(
@LeicaFleury
@LeicaFleury 3 жыл бұрын
Saracens are a meme civ in land maps.
@sauravtripathi4128
@sauravtripathi4128 3 жыл бұрын
Because Saracens usually go for archers (75%), 20% camels and 5% mamelukes.
@MrMorvana
@MrMorvana 3 жыл бұрын
@@LeicaFleury Not at all... Their market allows them a lot of powerful options (knight/monk rush, archer...) and their bonus for archer against building make them a top tier civ in team games (it's not a joke anymore), and not a weak one in 1v1. But Mamelukes are sadly a meme, yes.
@CrnaStrela
@CrnaStrela 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMorvana might as well call them Memelukes
@jaishkhan7442
@jaishkhan7442 3 жыл бұрын
They're so expensive and take bonus damage from everything that moves
@Ahmethakanakan1
@Ahmethakanakan1 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are perfect lullabies.
@MrMorvana
@MrMorvana 3 жыл бұрын
An important thing for the boyard, it's a good unit in castle age, even without any upgrade. If you aren't going against archers, it's almost the same as an upgraded knight... So if you go for something else than a cav build and you still need a good knight (to help to defend against knight raids for example), you can just build a few of them in your defensive castle and have something effective without any further investment.
@surgeonsergio6839
@surgeonsergio6839 3 жыл бұрын
3:57 If you look closely you can see the Teutonic knight getting converted!
@wasitahmidhossainwasi6832
@wasitahmidhossainwasi6832 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah omg i dint notice it until i saw this comment
@loudradialem5233
@loudradialem5233 3 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with Boyars and other UUs that use food is how the game usually plays out. When you drop a castle, usually, the opponent will also drop his own castle to stop you from dropping a castle one after another. Then, both of you are going to save food and gold to advance to Imperial to get trebs to destroy each others castles and trebs. If you make Boyars, you're going to advance later. You might raid a bit and kill some of his units, but if he gets trebs earlier than you, you're going to lose your castle and maybe the game.
@ojomaze7777
@ojomaze7777 3 жыл бұрын
Hey SoTL, don't let the fact that the text at 8:51 doesn't match up with your spoken statements get to you. While it is certainly noticeable (if it indeed was a mistake), don't let it blind you from the truth: This video was very entertaining and informative to watch, and that we, as viewers, will like your content, small editing mistakes or no. Edit: I think I misunderstood what was being shown at the certain point in time in the video. I will take on this lesson that I intended to teach, and try to learn from it myself, that small mistakes like these don't matter that much in the grander scheme of things. Edit: I just saw the other comment addressing this. I feel humiliated now lol. I will now try harder to tell myself that it's no big deal and that I should probably not just let it go before it gets any worse. have a nice day btw. Remember to keep your head high, even in the face of a row of very small, but nonetheless embarrassing events.
@radiantav
@radiantav 3 жыл бұрын
Scientific approach to AoE2. I'm here for it.
@braindead_boi
@braindead_boi 3 жыл бұрын
I would always mix the two, the knights were less hard to produce so I usually had a few more than boyars
@niconilo97
@niconilo97 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and there is usually 2 choices whit Slave 1 you go fc knight 2 drush/menatarm into infantry siege You can't really plan to go full boyard for timing reason
@Septimus_ii
@Septimus_ii 3 жыл бұрын
@@niconilo97 I feel like fc knight transitioning into boyar is the way to go. It falls off a little in late imperial compared with paladin civs, but not by much, and you can always transition back into infantry and/or siege. You've even got good hussars (with better farmers) and (rubbish) heavy cav archers if you really want to catch your opponent by surprise
@zachariastsampasidis8880
@zachariastsampasidis8880 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the best way would be to open scouts by going up early; getting horse collar and wheelbarrow for efficiency then transition into castle age and have a forward castle for siege and boyar production while making knights to paddle your cavalry numbers
@Bozothcow
@Bozothcow 9 ай бұрын
I love that, even on a channel like this where we can be quite objective about the drawbacks of Teutonic Knights, we can still appreciate their flair and give them a special dramatic entrance.
@cfv7461
@cfv7461 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY, I'VE ASKED MYSELF THIS FOR YEARS
@DaviD-zw6cd
@DaviD-zw6cd 3 жыл бұрын
I was literally searching for this yesterday, thought there must be a SOTL video for it - and was confused I couldn't find one xD
@Calebgoblin
@Calebgoblin 3 жыл бұрын
I needed this one to start my new year
@onecoolswordr.r.7791
@onecoolswordr.r.7791 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the content, keep up the hard work and the excellent guides and info!
@adamjohanssonn
@adamjohanssonn 3 жыл бұрын
8:00 during the fight against imperial camels you had paladins on the "knight" side but you were talking about cavalier, not sure if it was intended to be paladins but you said it wrong or the other way around but cavalier would have performed a bit worse there so boyar should still be the answer in to imperial camel when playing as the slavs
@Tocaraca
@Tocaraca 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, the answer to Imperial Camels should be Halberdiers, not Elite Boyars 11
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 3 жыл бұрын
Especially druzhina halberdiers
@helaba2957
@helaba2957 3 жыл бұрын
But what about tree HP? And the Gaia civ overview?
@Veristelle-
@Veristelle- 3 жыл бұрын
Gaia incoming on April 1st
@chingamfong
@chingamfong 3 жыл бұрын
Boyar in Castle Age: *"UNLIMITED POWER!!"* Boyar in Imperial Age: "Please I'm too weak..." (After update) Boyar in Imperial Age: "Now you will experience the full power of the dark side"
@theprovost
@theprovost 3 жыл бұрын
Teutonic Knights in castle age: Please, I'm too weak Teutonic Knights in imperial age: UNLIMITED POWER
@LordRavensong
@LordRavensong 3 жыл бұрын
Boyar. Those axes are awesome looking!
@rubz1390
@rubz1390 3 жыл бұрын
Weapon is a bardiche.
@batukhan9258
@batukhan9258 3 жыл бұрын
@@rubz1390 That's not a bardiche. Bardiche was a polearm againts cavarly, used by Russian infantry and shooters.
@joelsullivan1248
@joelsullivan1248 3 жыл бұрын
In a world seemingly gone mad. There is still the zen of this channel. Thank you so much for the content
@Binarokaro
@Binarokaro 3 жыл бұрын
I will say though that the boyars are a pretty decent complement to the Slavic infantry and siege army. Their slower movement speed makes it easier for infantry and siege to keep up, and their sturdiness makes for a good frontline damage sponge. The fact that Slavs don't have paladins pretty much mean that elite boyars are the Slavs' best shot at having competent cavalry for their armies.
@alian6965
@alian6965 3 жыл бұрын
1 Video Idea: Should you prefer numbers or upgrades in a fight? For instance 10 fully upgraded knights vs x knights equivalent to the upgrade cost
@Nonsequitorian
@Nonsequitorian 3 жыл бұрын
Spirit you forgot to mention that Elite Boyar comes in in only 60 seconds. You can get Elite Boyar BEFORE the enemy even gets Cavalier, and looong before Paladin comes in. I think Elite Boyar is strongest in the early Imperial age, when many imp upgrades haven't come in.
@BullYo12
@BullYo12 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Spirit, I see you type the timestamps in your descriptions but they don't show on the video player, maybe you should try a format like that: 00:00 - Intro Example 0:22 - Cost comparison / villagers to create Not that it's absolutely needed but I think it's a neat function. Unfortunately YT doesn't always pick up on the format and it may not trigger on some videos but I think it's worth a shot :) Keep up the good work!
@gettinmoney1203
@gettinmoney1203 3 жыл бұрын
spirit of the law upload on my birthday i love it
@goliath5720
@goliath5720 3 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday 🥳🥳🥳🥳
@gettinmoney1203
@gettinmoney1203 3 жыл бұрын
@@goliath5720 thanks brotha 🔥
@HazmanFTW
@HazmanFTW 3 жыл бұрын
Slav civ redo coming up next then?
@jodeer3232
@jodeer3232 3 жыл бұрын
Of couse he does a vid about Cuman TC and boom Civ overwie
@laservsvecchiette
@laservsvecchiette 3 жыл бұрын
7:58 Slavs cavaliers dressing up as paladins!
@manolgeorgiev9664
@manolgeorgiev9664 3 жыл бұрын
When you want to be a paladin, but your tech tree says you can't:
@robpob
@robpob 3 жыл бұрын
The “not so simple” & “it depends” jokes at the start are incredible
@Goannadria
@Goannadria 3 жыл бұрын
So basically, the Boyar is a unique unit that lets a typically late-game infantry oriented civ compete in and survive the mid-game cav wars, that later falls off.
@irmaenriquez6835
@irmaenriquez6835 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, thanks for ur work.
@johncohnor9655
@johncohnor9655 3 жыл бұрын
I was actually wondering about this for a while
@iLoveChrisSmoove
@iLoveChrisSmoove 3 жыл бұрын
I hardly have time to play AoE anymore yet I always find my self watching Spirit's videos.
@markjms9621
@markjms9621 3 жыл бұрын
So the next video is an historical review about the slavs? I love that videos
@ZacharyBurgess
@ZacharyBurgess 3 жыл бұрын
Hey SOTL. Thanks for the analysis. One piece of feedback. You’ve got a spelling error at 0:48 “ugprades” should probably be “upgrades”
@terryhsiao1745
@terryhsiao1745 3 жыл бұрын
Answered one of my greatest questions. I played a lot of slav. Initially I focused on boyar
@solarranks7281
@solarranks7281 3 жыл бұрын
I do more math watching these videos than I learn in calculus. Also just a suggestion: could you do a video on rushing? right now I can kind of trush and I know how to fast castle into knights, I have seen your other videos like 'the first 15 villagers' and others but I would like to go more into the offensive side of the early game. Thanks :)
@MrDiehardNoob
@MrDiehardNoob 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Around 8:50 you talk about Paladin taking more arrows but it shows 50 Arbalest arrows for both, is that right?
@MrDiehardNoob
@MrDiehardNoob 3 жыл бұрын
I see someone else noticed already oops:)
@mihaibelu3912
@mihaibelu3912 3 жыл бұрын
This vid changed my vizion in the boyar COMPLETLY
@VladtheImpaler_99
@VladtheImpaler_99 3 жыл бұрын
mmm gotta get me those sweet sweet lunchtime aoe stats! Keep up the great work!
@irvindalacourt7178
@irvindalacourt7178 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the brilliant video as every time SOTL :)
@undergradstudios7021
@undergradstudios7021 3 жыл бұрын
You should make more gameplay videos. We would really enjoy those.
@muhammadadel4070
@muhammadadel4070 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Spirit thanks for the contents. I wanted to ask you a favour if you may. Can you make a vedio about economic upgrades? Lets start with the lumber camp and mining camp, how are it's upgrades are useful or worthy to do in the early game, and how much will be the difference between one player did the double bit axe with 5-10 vills for example on wood and another player have the same vills without the double bit axe and how making these upgrades will make a difference in early game lets say until 15min or 20.
@benfairlie3773
@benfairlie3773 3 жыл бұрын
11 i hope SOTL reads this thread. I now feel i need to see a squad of samurai shread a unit of boyars (boyar and catafract are my go to units)
@harishsundar3409
@harishsundar3409 3 жыл бұрын
One exact use case of boyars is vs hussars. Hussars do 6 damage to paladin but only 2 damage to Elite boyars. So Elite boyars can win easily even against 9 hussars singlehandedly. Although I dont see this particular skirmish happening frequently. Elite boyars also perform much better against champions.
@zachariastsampasidis8880
@zachariastsampasidis8880 3 жыл бұрын
A small raiding or counter raiding team of boyars can be good enough though not to really warrant the elite upgrade. Still, chances are you will use some cavalry as Slavs so since the upgrades are shared....
@zachariastsampasidis8880
@zachariastsampasidis8880 3 жыл бұрын
Btw they can't beat 9 hussars. They can probably kill one by the time they die
@harishsundar3409
@harishsundar3409 3 жыл бұрын
@@zachariastsampasidis8880 nope they actuallly win against 9 hussars. only 4 can hit a melee unit at a time
@zachariastsampasidis8880
@zachariastsampasidis8880 3 жыл бұрын
@@harishsundar3409 ah I didn't take unit collision into account but 4 sounds too low. If it was a villager I might have believed it but a full cavalry unit has a significant box. Will have to try it
@kimtachhrin1100
@kimtachhrin1100 3 жыл бұрын
when Spirit doesnt put the intro in his vid, i pause the vid and sing the intro to myself
@hbarudi
@hbarudi 3 жыл бұрын
In the old forgotten Dracula campaign (not definitive edition), there was that unusual boyar with the enemy.
@cedfah
@cedfah 3 жыл бұрын
two weeks ago I litteraly looked this up and was so sad when I had to go to the forums because SoTL diddnt have a vid. :D
@mixt696bc9
@mixt696bc9 3 жыл бұрын
hey i know this may be a stupid question but why does your game looks so different? is it there another dlc? i got confused when i heard about bulgarian knights/ lithuanian knights
@Leitis_Fella
@Leitis_Fella 3 жыл бұрын
It'd be neat in a futures update to see FE add Varangian warriors as a unique unit for Slavs, at a similar cost to Boyars so you'd have to choose between one or the other. Plus it'd add a UU that's affected by Druzhina.
@CG-eh6oe
@CG-eh6oe 3 жыл бұрын
One MU i find interesting is eboyar vs hussar. They barely take damage and can pretty much tank enemy hussar spam endlessly. Its not the most common fight you will run into, but surely one of the most onesided.
@quakethedoombringer
@quakethedoombringer Жыл бұрын
I would be fairly worried if anyone just uses mass hussars as meat shield to the Boyars. They have no bonus damage or immunity + they get easily countered by Boyars's strong melee armor and damage
@Dolegan
@Dolegan 3 жыл бұрын
If a group of knights are attacking your castle and you have plenty of stone and villagers near, should your garrison them to fire arrows or get the to repair it?
@jeffery_tang
@jeffery_tang 3 жыл бұрын
8:49 paladin shots is wrong
@newtonpritchett9887
@newtonpritchett9887 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on how to use mangonels/onagers effectively? Obviously use have to use attack ground and all that but which units should defend them? Where you should you place them? Should you control them as a group or one at a time? I found a bunch of videos on micro-ing against them, but no videos on using them effectively
@CornBredCrusader
@CornBredCrusader 3 жыл бұрын
Boyars are top tier in team games, as it isnt a Boyar vs Paladin choice for the Slav player, its Boyar vs Cavalier. In castle age they dont work out nearly as well as SotL makes them, since you need to invest villager time into mining stone and then building a castle, so even though their creation time is half of a knights, a standard 2v2 meta of scouts->knights means that you already have the stables and can create from the second you are in castle age. Boyars biggest strength would be in early imp in a team game, when the slav player could have 1-2 castles up, since the upgrade to elite takes only 60 seconds; Compare that to the 100 seconds of cavalier and 170 seconds of paladin before you get a unit that can match the elite boyar gives the Slav player and his team a huge powerspike. Couple that with trade meaning that the higher gold cost being negligible in team games makes boyars the go to pick for slavs in imperial during team games
@darthleader5806
@darthleader5806 3 жыл бұрын
Do you believe that slavs would be better than Franks at scouts into knights or fast castle into knights around 1.1k elo 1v1 Arabia?
@tankofnova9022
@tankofnova9022 3 жыл бұрын
The elite Boyar being roughly a paladin makes them a deadly force in early imperial where halb, heavy camel and arbilest... ect may not yet be researched. Getting to imp first in a 1v1 by even a few seconds could be the difference between getting trampled or not. If you already have boyars when imp finishes and you can get elite out of the gate, do it. If you catch a castle age army napping its curtains for them.
@drakZes
@drakZes 3 жыл бұрын
I think they need to balance a lot of units so that they get picked more often. For instance they can give boyars hidden armor against their counters so that the counters only do liek 3/4 of the bonus damage and maybe +1 pierce armor to make them a littel bit more viable on post imperial age.
@Aryan-hv3lw
@Aryan-hv3lw 3 жыл бұрын
Hey law, spirit of the guys here!
@dtarchon
@dtarchon 3 жыл бұрын
Late castle into imperial age: As Slav in competitive team games, against enemy knights, Druzhina Halberdiers with siege would be preferable to knights/boyars with siege. Gold resources are limited and a major consideration will be to preserve your gold units and whittle down enemy gold units. For flexibility, cavaliers would be a better option and those stables can easily switch into hussar production once gold runs out, and they will run out eventually. Now, for a power play where you can boom and happily afford three castles with an untouched economy, and want to team up with an archer ally, boyars are the way to go as they can go toe to toe in an ultimate composition with enemy paladins and even elite battle elephants..though elite battle elephants will have a slight edge.
@PeferG17
@PeferG17 3 жыл бұрын
Love the content but where did the intro go!
@legendofJupp
@legendofJupp Жыл бұрын
for anyone watcxhing this video now: boyar now cost 60f 70g and elite boyars got 2 more melee armor. The increased armor makes them quite a bit better against paladins and champions
@masterofmagic99
@masterofmagic99 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Spirit, not sure how familiar you are with the scenario and map editor but would you consider doing a tutorial series on how to use the editor tools?
@billytringuyen1
@billytringuyen1 2 жыл бұрын
infantry civ with cavalry as a unique unit nice one!
@juanfrances2041
@juanfrances2041 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see Spirit of The Law posts a new video and I click.
@jacksonholder2987
@jacksonholder2987 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that the Teuton Paladin matchup is actually a 50/50 depending on who gets the first hit - either the Paladin does and survives with 4 HP or the Boyar does and lives with 6.
@Rainbow-Dash
@Rainbow-Dash 3 жыл бұрын
"It d-pends" I see what you did there :)
@tH4ttUs
@tH4ttUs 3 жыл бұрын
i like the background music!
@giannisxouliaras5672
@giannisxouliaras5672 3 жыл бұрын
None, reject gold living units return to trash
@oom-3262
@oom-3262 3 жыл бұрын
#Magyargang
@Marcara081
@Marcara081 3 жыл бұрын
Outlast the opponent's gold then crush his trash army with gold units.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
So... basically another "reject divinity, return to MONKE" thing?
@giannisxouliaras5672
@giannisxouliaras5672 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359 pretty much, less worries more spam simpler life
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
@@giannisxouliaras5672 Depends, considering the enemy might have high tech advantages and defenses or something.
@metalisamp189
@metalisamp189 3 жыл бұрын
Please do the comparison between cataphracts and knight line for the byzantines, sir with the smooth voice.
@unnamedshadow1866
@unnamedshadow1866 2 жыл бұрын
i feel the Boyar should have an Aoe ability that makes ally units either attack harder or faster, this would mean having a few boyars together with your infantry and siege units would bring a huge buff to them. Since technically the Boyars were the Rus Nobility, so its not like they were entire regiments of them. In fact Boyars were mostly either commanders or elite small regiments.
@gort2279
@gort2279 3 жыл бұрын
Will you ever redo your civ videos? With all the constant balance changes since DE, they’re sort of outdated
@viktorf6798
@viktorf6798 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, u said boyars are not cost effective against halbadiers. But they won the fight which paladin didnt do. So it gives boyars an sig intuitive edge, when the opponent prepare he might underestimate how many halbs he needs. And if you win that first fight you can capitalize on numbers advantage. Gold unit vs non gold unit should only matter when gold i scarce right? If you lose with 8000 gold you did something wrong 😑
@saccaron
@saccaron 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please do a video comparing going swordsmen vs knight lines? I know it is not a very common choice, but depending how gold and food are valued, swordsmen can be more cost-efficient? Of course that does not capture raiding and countering archers or siege.
@CaptainCorobo
@CaptainCorobo 3 жыл бұрын
Video idee: best cavalry unit in castle age? Like Knights from different civs vs different cavalry unique units?
@PeterWhittam
@PeterWhittam 3 жыл бұрын
Answering the real questions here, as Spirit always does.
@Pr0manStream
@Pr0manStream 3 жыл бұрын
SOTL - There's an error in your video at 8:48 - You say that the higher HP of the paladin allows them to take more arbalest shots, yet your on-screen text tells me they both take 50 shots each.
@benrobinson375
@benrobinson375 3 жыл бұрын
So it sounds like the Boyars are somewhat better overall than the Knights, but you also have to consider the initial upfront cost of building a castle. So maybe it's a case of going for Knights in castle age and then transitioning into Boyars later on? Situational dependent of course...
@giudalberto
@giudalberto 3 жыл бұрын
Did you consider the cost of the upgrade to paladin? Because Boyars only have 1 upgrade to make in order to reach full capacity (except for the blacksmith one) don't you find?
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