Concerning prayer

[@SpiritualUnfoldment]

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[@toddsqui]

"People can only work from where they are." Thank you so much, I appreciate this particular message.

[@devasadhvi]

I loved the Russian spoken Jesus Prayer Brought tears to my eyes. Deeply in my heart. Not sure why. Thank you John

[@craigtechno]

"I've never been more effective at doing/being good when I take myself out of the scene altogether and merge with the One." Absolutely beautiful and profound. True words of wisdom to be contemplated and lived. I hope I can really take this into my heart. Thank you both.

[@craigbeaumont5224]

oh John. Your love of "thee" is astounding, thank you thank you.

[@MK-hd8ev]

Prayer often saved my live. Thank you both for everything.

[@estherwalton6418]

I could listen to you for hours John. The peace that exudes from your meditation/prayer/stillness is undeniable.

[@vascoespañol]

hope John lives many years more, and make many more videos.

[@fairweatherfriends.]

Diego Apalategui was thinking the same thing

[@marcelopepinho]

@@fairweatherfriends. me too

[@HazerGore1185]

As someone who has been praying for years but recently discovered meditation, I agree that there's so much similarity between the two, and often the line between the two blurs. I think prayer and meditation are the greatest tools to get as close to God as possible in this life. We can cast aside all the cares and extraneous things of this life (the things that change, and will pass away in time) and simply rest in God, who simply is and never changes. The Psalms provide me great material to meditate on, and the Psalms echo countless times how God should be our ultimate refuge, fortress, strength, and peace.

[@dereklords9688]

I’ve added a re-reading Psalm 119 to my routine. It takes about 15 to 20 minutes and seems to lie at the center of The Bible. Thank you for doing your work!

[@micheleabercrombie-riva6071]

Thank you John, and Phil for this heartwarming interview. It was wonderful to meet with you in church on Tuesday, to meet your dear friends from Russia John, and to hear you speak so fondly and with so much passion about Russia. I am ashamed to say of how little I really know about Russian history, but what stands out from hearing you speak, is that even in the most extreme situations we can find peace in prayer, in the stillness of the present moment we open to the divine, everything can be taken away, but we cannot destroy the heart's longing for life, for love. Like countless others, I find it so hard at times, witnessing the suffering in the world, wondering what i can do to help, but knowing that when i rest in the stillness, silence, and infinite spaciousness of the present moment, all is well, and this brings so much comfort. I loved hearing about the way Russian people come together and connect in stillness, before a family member or loved one embarks on a journey - So beautiful. I feel we have so much to learn from the openness, loving kindness and compassion of a Russian heart. With love and blessings, Michele

[@caroledrury1411]

Two brilliant men in fine conversation about things that matter. Thank you.

[@onenessseeker5683]

These video's are top of the range. Both of you are gorgeous souls

[@anitasonatina9570]

“...so there is a natural purity in a mother’s prayer... She knows...”. ... and the church bell sings “Amen” (at 3.21, in 3.10 - 3.27).

[@pettiprue]

Darling John - sharing your experience and understanding with us is so very encouraging. X

[@rawandmohammed5642]

God bless you sir john Thank you so much for everything

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

Getting very old while staying healthy seems to bring enlightenment to many people..When i was young, I used to think 'those óld people' gazing for hours at nothing so terrible boring. *Seemed like hell to me then. Now i get older myself , The idea of losing one's sex drive ,need to fit in, No more deadlines reach, noting left to proof etc,etc. sounding rather blissful ..:))

[@happyhappyjoyjoy1860]

Idk i see this man for first time and love him.

[@michaelr3583]

ÀSMR is proof God loves us

[@jf8461]

I am obliged to agree with this man a great deal.

[@thisbugsme7645]

I heard it put a good way by the rapper killah priest: “When you pray, you talk to god. When you meditate, god talks to you.”

[@SpiritualUnfoldment]

Yes - thank you. I like that.

[@donmilo4733]

Sky Flimin You’re so right

[@marie-pierre1789]

I love this way

[@SoberIrishman]

All of us fail at times....lose faith in God....then hopefully bow down and beg His forgiveness. The short answer to the question of "Does Prayer Work".......Yes it does.....

[@ravenmorris4229]

Very moving, very profound and the truth. Blessings x

[@SpiritualUnfoldment]

Thanks Raven Morris - appreciated. Phil

[@annemccarthy8243]

Beautiful. Amazing. Thank you.

[@Canada-gs3jc]

The rosary is a meditative prayer of the life of Jesus through his mothers eyes.

[@SpiritualUnfoldment]

Thank you - that's helpful to know

[@louiseharrison8444]

It really is. I've been meditating with the rosary and by means of the Mother for some time. It's a beautiful meditation.

[@lfrederick8777]

what a remarkable , incredible man thanks for sharing

[@lodewijklangeweg742]

A well known prayer in Russia is: "Jesus Christ, have mercy on me, a poor sinner." To what we may rightly add: "Because as Christ, out of your infinitely great love for me, you are appearing in what seems to be my sinful flesh as a beggar for divine mercy." ❤️

[@MrJ6000]

You’ll never meet a man who loves being still as much as big JB, he bloody loves it 👍🏼

[@VanTheuni]

Thank you for sharing these insights of your life with us, it helps for sure 🙏

[@Aum_shantishantishanti111]

A wise monk meditated his whole life and upon his death his disciple asked him the one thing he could share about his wisdom : he responded .. worry is preposterous. I see how that could be if understand the message behind what we are experiencing. I don’t fully but a small part of me is being led in that direction. The meaning in between the meaning . The realization that leads to a knowing smile. I want what he knows . I already am that I just want to know it by my heart .

[@happyhappyjoyjoy1860]

Yes you are 💜

[@piholino]

I watched almost all John’s videos and he basically has same answer for all questions. If i look there i see light and there darkness. Then stillness. Let’s not forget keeping our feet on the ground. So if for any reason , Sun is at your back you will see the world in shadow, which is sin people.

[@happyhappyjoyjoy1860]

This man is pure gold.Im 29 yrs and for 7 yrs going thru this.In first i was scared whats happening.I feel same as him.

[@richdorset]

Has it really been 7 years I've been listening 😮

[@caroledrury1411]

What a great, deep conversation

[@littlecreekmonastery]

“[You] come to realize what prayer really is. That prayer is really merging into the perfection of God. Melting into that absolute one.” He goes on stating that this connectedness is unlimited with no boundaries, resulting in a personal ability to connect to the entire world, implying that as an individual we can have a far greater affect than we realize. “If I’m connected with that level of immortality here, it serves the whole world. You could describe prayer as the raising of consciousness.” As a self-confessed old man getting close to death he states that he is more optimistic than ever. Because he’d always struggled, starting a young man, with what he himself could do to help the world be a better place. He observes that as a younger person he saw changing the world as bringing about better irrigation p\or growing crops where it had not been possible. But… this was very limited to the efforts of his individual, physical body. Whereas this aged perspective removes those limitations. As he’s aged and practiced prayer he’s discovered that one person, via effective prayer, can change an entire world and its consciousness. I like Mr. Butler's zeroing in on the vital reality and essence of prayer. In that regard, a helpful question would be a how-to question: "John, how do you achieve this state? Talk to us about the experience of that state." www.littlecreekmonastery.com/blog/2022/11/10/an-essential-element-of-prayer

[@jdncoke2]

he's so on it- though half a year ago i'd have called him obserd because frankly i was too deep in the ego to understand, similarly a strong ego listening to this will either be repelled or just not get it at all

[@freepiratequeen]

RLP1989 Exactly ☺️

[@hydra_lisk]

there seems to be a lot of people like that under the "kingdom of god" video

[@Entschuldigungen]

God is not everywhere, his knowledge captures everything but his majesty is high up.

[@dr.spectre9697]

When he speaks about the Russian Orthodox Church, I can totally understand what he means because as an Armenian Orthodox, we have & currently experience the same ...well... experiences. After the fall of the USSR, the Orthodox Church which was underground exploded into the open. Thank Christ.

[@rumpelforeskin8461]

I have no idea what he’s talking about but I love his gentle voice lol

[@SpiritualUnfoldment]

Dear Friends - several of you have commentated like this - that I talk nonsense which they cannot understand, and yet they are attracted. That's correct, for Spirit is not 'sense' and cannot be understood by thought. We are not commanded to know but to love God. Heart often responds to our surprise.

[@bramblebop1904]

Yes. I think the reason for that is that he talks about his experiences. This is not rational, it can't be communicated rationally. Only if you _also_ experienced what he talks about will you understand. It is more like hints than direct references.

[@happyhappyjoyjoy1860]

@@SpiritualUnfoldment when all this started to unfold in myself idk why but i was attracted to many videos abt which i didnt have idea...And imagine what.When i realized whats going on when i sow my path ALL THAT VIDEOS were going to ONE TRUTH.No matter how different they were.All this was unfolding for 7 yrs.Im 29 now.Its very nice to see ppl attracted to this because i know they are going to experience truth..knowlegde..They will constantly will seeing videos abt chi, meditation, spiritualitity.It will have no sense for them in begining but they will watch them.How beatifull that path is.I suffered a lot during it but im grateful.That was just way which brings me liberation.💜

[@4ujustincase]

Brilliant. Thank you!

[@idiotproofdalek]

Please tell me that you and John used to go and have a cup of tea and a slice of cake - (Bakewell tart perhaps?) after your conversations?

[@ladhamohamed4008]

First find the truth,and the truth will set you free,said Jesus the Christ.

[@Bas_Lightyear]

Jesus of Christington

[@stepha2642]

The truth will get you convicted says the law.

[@456quip]

Thanks

[@keepitsimple4629]

I'm a big proponent of prayer, but it concerns me that God often doesn't answer prayers of a dire nature. It's not for me to question God, but it seems He's very selective in which prayers He answers. For example, when children are kidnapped and abused, and they have to endure it. John might say don't let the evil in the world bother you, but it does bother me.

[@winstonk400]

How can I get in touch with John? Would love to meet him. Such a blessing

[@SpiritualUnfoldment]

... through the website, www.spiritualunfoldment.co.uk

[@happyhappyjoyjoy1860]

@@SpiritualUnfoldment is there any chance to commicate witj John thru email.Im going thru this.Dont know why but innerly i kust know i need to comunicate with him.

[@SpiritualUnfoldment]

You can email [e-mail]. Phil

[@happyhappyjoyjoy1860]

@@SpiritualUnfoldment thank you so much dear💜

[@Fire-Toolz]

this video is beautiful. i got so much out of it. oddly enough, the moment i began to feel uncomfortable, was when the jesus prayer was said. i have a very difficult time calling jesus "lord" and i have a difficult time with that word in general, due to my fundamentalist and misleading christian upbringing. i absolutely adore jesus, and believe his teachings and his presence and his example is vitally important. richard rohr's teachings on the trinity helped me understand the deeper importance of christ, what that word means, and how it's a part of the holy trinity, and how the trinity works, so to speak. but the phrase "have mercy on me, a sinner" feels uncomfortable to me. it's hard for me to ask god for mercy when i know god has mercy already, and i'm just swimming in it. prayer as a form of asking for things has been a slippery slope for me...a slope i try to stay away from anymore. and although i know i am absolutely a sinner, i feel like the way it is worded and stressed in this prayer/mantra is hard for me. i am identifying with a sinner, putting myself in a box, giving myself a label. a negative label. it sounds like self-loathing almost. i understand what sin is now that i have been taught about it from john, richard rohr, thomas keating, even thomas merton. but to make identifying with it part of my prayer, saying it repeatedly, almost seems mentally unhealthy. please do not take this as an argument or disagreement or an attack! i am merely contemplating, noticing the feelings and thoughts that arise within me. i could listen to contemplative christian teachings all day every day, and be pointed toward truth and stillness, and be taught concepts and methods i can integrate into my day to day life. but the minute we say "lord jesus christ have mercy on me, a sinner," you lose me. i wish i could understand more deeply why exactly i feel that way. perhaps it's because scripture has so much (uncomfortably) dualistic language. i am a western person born in the USA, so my mind is naturally dualistic in some ways, but naturally nondualistic in a deeper sense. i am trying to learn to appreciate dualistic christian language, and get out of it what it was meant to teach me, while leaving the rest. thank you phil and/or john for reading my comment. :)

[@SpiritualUnfoldment]

Hello FT - how is it best for John to reply? Email? Phil

[@Fire-Toolz]

@@SpiritualUnfoldment yes, that'd be fine! [e-mail]. i will delete this comment once you've confirmed you have it saved for privacy purposes ;) thank you so much phil.

[@EyeOfTheVeda]

Amazing!

[@dillonshea4268]

And God said... Stop praying to the wind.

[@sammiller9855]

"sinner" can be a loaded term. Often it implies guilt, shame and worthy of punishment (e.g., "sinners go to hell") and that we are what we think we are--less than whole. John's uses the term "sin" to mean simply "turning away" from the light of god/love/wholeness/presence, and getting lost in the darkness of our mistaken perception. In that sense, "sinner" is one who has or is acting out of ignorance of their own perfection as a "child of god"--not to be punished, but loved. Still, the term, for me, carries a heavy-handedness to it, considering how it was used by some church establishments in the past. I gravitate more towards affirmative prayers that affirm my wholeness and worthiness in the present, considering that I am already predisposed to feeling guilty, such as "May I be filled with loving-kindess. May I be happy. May I be peaceful and at east. May I be well." (the "I" can be replaced with "you", "we", "all beings"). Too each their own.

[@happyhappyjoyjoy1860]

Yes.Sin is when we dont see and feel and speak abt us as perfect in every state!

[@leondesaintaubyn3319]

GO AND SIN NO MORE Us Thy Destined Soul's Of Thy Light Inside

[@frankcrawford416]

Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. Jesus said come to Me all you weary and weak. It says in the Bible that Jesus came to save sinners. Are you tired of trying on your own to save yourself, then come to Jesus. There is no sin that He will not forgive. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever shall believe in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. God's promise is you will be saved. He didn't stipulate on what sin you may have done. Just come as you are. Believe that Jesus paid for your sins when He died on the cross for you. God knew we were weak and couldn't make it on our own, so Jesus who is God Himself reconcile us to Him through His death, burial, and resurrection.

[@lehtokurppa7824]

Hail Satan

[@burntgod7165]

You clearly don't know what you're on about, which is typical of Christians: you make it up as you go along. There IS a sin that you won't be forgiven for: blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. This is specified in several passages of the Synoptic Gospels, if you bothered reading them, including Mark 3:28-29, Matthew 12:31-32, and Luke 12:10. Christians create a Jesus/God in their own image, which is why we have thousands of different denominations and cults withing Christianity. They also clearly haven't read their own holy book very carefully, merely picking the nice verses their pastors told them to read.

[@frankcrawford416]

@@burntgod7165 The sin u are talking about is rejecting Christ. When you come to Him obviously you are not rejecting. By coming to Him u are humbling yourself. The poor in spirit will receive the kingdom of God. Are you poor in spirit? Jesus is waiting for u. Are u a sinner, then Jesus died for u. He did not come for those who don't sin, or the rich in spirit. He came for the lowly poor in spirit. I think u are poor in spirit, even angry. So what. Jesus died for every single sin. If we confess with our mouth and believe in our heart that Jesus died on the cross, rose from the dead on the third day, and lives on the right hand side of God, we will be saved. Do u believe that. Let God's spirit work in you. I pray protection over you. God bless u u are loved as a sinner. Jesus loves u. I need Him and u need Him. This is my heart to u , Jesus' heart is bigger to u it says in Bible.

[@burntgod7165]

@@frankcrawford416 This is waffle and pseudo-profundity. You're spinning your texts to suit you. Clearly you've not read your NT. Please do. That sin is unforgivable. Your Jesus allegedly says so. Why is it that Christians always say "Well, those words don't actually mean what they say" or "That's not what god meant when he said 'kill them all'"? It's so preposterous the games you play.

[@moyaliatokmak759]

❤️

[@yandnat1656]

I tryed to grab Jesus but he keeps getting away, slippery little blighter.

[@yohei72]

He oils himself up.

[@cloneskiller]

yohei72 haha

[@gps8958]

That's the plan. Getting you to follow to the place where you will have the best effect as a human being. And on the way of course

[@zzapzzap1102]

true that, God and Jesus never leave us, they instead help us along the way

[@FGzone]

Please listen to T.L. Osborn.

[@bonnie8441]

I quite often think it's Phil we should be listening to rather than John.John lives in his own world,which is entirely up to him of course.Where as Phil more importantly lives in the real world.

[@patrickpoulsen1]

You got it upside down.

[@BTScollectables]

Prayers work

[@allenm4947]

12:26

[@JohnDoe-db8to]

My man got the pimp walk

[@MrJ6000]

Iv figured it out! Big JB is trying to tell us, without actually saying it, that he is in fact God. ‘This is where it all starts from’, ‘if I say something it comes from Spirit’, ‘further away from Spirit the more problems we have’ etc. Laughs at the question of if God hears prayer, because he knows he does! Now turn back to the bloody light you silly gooses!

[@Dogboy73]

Utter codswallop. But I love listening to this guy.

[@emotionwave]

"Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance."

[@yohei72]

​@@emotionwave Well, you convinced me. Just kidding.

[@emotionwave]

@@yohei72 I wouldn't waste my time like that.

[@lukeadams9087]

Dogboy73 just because your brain can understand him idiot

[@ballsdeepinglory3054]

@@emotionwave So you claim to know the truth ? Religion is speculation, it can be spiritual, it can be beautiful, but the one problem with religion is the claim to truth. Which is exactly what you are doing here. We don't know what really is true. I don't, he doesn't, and you don't. There certainly is a truth, but we'll never know it.

[@johnkirwan6327]

as with all these spiritual videos, no one ever questions what the speaker is saying. It can all be gibberish but not one question is put to start a debate

[@FanPhys]

I doubt much of what he's saying would stand up even under mild scrutiny at a philosophical level. That's mysticism for you. Even as Christian I think he's talking absolute gibberish, but his voice is soothing so it keeps me smiling on two counts!

[@Keanux12]

8:45 17:02 28:00

[@JohnDoe-db8to]

The interviewer calls him jawn buttlah

[@hexus788]

Gibberish, but nice voice so....

[@michaeljames3134]

hexus788 disagree

[@hydra_lisk]

With a voice like that, everything sounds less like English, and more like the sounds of sleeping in a cloud.

[@carlmeylan3044]

I love how you talk, in the the spiritual way but I don't believe in God

[@aacra]

If everything is in perfect order because of god's will why are our minds not in order? He made us fallible? (He wants us to suffer and is therefore not a good god and isn't at all interested in prayers) God is fallible? (Therefore not omnipotent or omniscient and can't hear prayers) He doesn't exist? (Our fallible minds have imagined him/her/it and prayers are for nothing).

[@grigorirasputin234]

Andrew A Gardener god didn't make us to be robots, you have a choice to bring your own mind into order. suffering helps you grow in love wisdom and power.

[@aacra]

So he made us fallible and wants us to suffer is what you're saying? So mental illness, cancer and all other terrible, painful diseases are god's will? In other words this god isn't all loving and good because he's made us to suffer all sorts of nasty, painful things like cancer, mental illness and other morbidities. The logic is inescapable, he either made us this way and is happy to watch us suffer in our lives (which even good, god-fearing people do) and he made the world imperfect (which it is, earthquakes, droughts, floods, etc) or couldn't make them perfect because he's fallible or he didn't make any of them at all. It has to be one of those. You seem to choose the first. And don't tell me it's because some bloke called Adam fell from grace that children suffer cancer and get shot, etc because I don't share this warped point of view. We're on on our own out here, get over it.

[@grigorirasputin234]

Andrew A Gardener while you're on this earthly existence your on your own, whatsoever happens, happens, God does not intervene, otherwise it wouldn't be a real experience. Mental illness is usually brought on by to much thinking, the real you is when your not thinking at all. People don't realise that their mind has convinced them that they are the mind, as John butler says meditation is way to stop thinking. If you believe that no one really dies as i do, then cancer and diseases is just a temporary measure. You may feel angry at the suffering in would as many people do, but it's human's who create suffering in the world not God. It is very difficult also to sacrifice one's suffering. A man Will renounce any pleasures you like but he will not give up his suffering. God gave us brains, so if you don't like volcanic lava pouring through your front door, don't build your house under a volcano. Don't like earthquakes don't build on fault lines, don't like floods build better defences. It's all up to us really. When you get as old as John butler you Will see the world different to how you see it now, in a more chilled out and relaxed way, well let's hope.

[@aacra]

You say"while you're on this earthly existence your on your own, whatsoever happens, happens, God does not intervene, otherwise it wouldn't be a real experience". So prayer is useless because god won't intervene is what you are saying. That's an interesting take on the usual religious dogma. I assume you are a christian from your responses. Your reply shows a real lack of understanding about mental illness and a deep cruelty towards humanity, in common with many religious people. You appear to blame people for their own suffering and I assume you include little babies and children who are dying from cancer, cancers that mostly arise because the body is imperfect in many ways and goes wrong. So if a god created these humans, he also created this cancer to happen and the suffering that ensues. Surely you don't blame the children? Maybe you blame the parents. Which humans are responsible? If you accept god created the human body and all its imperfections (there are many) then you must accept that he created it so that it goes wrong, like appendicitis for example, or cerebral palsy. So your god made lots of ways that us humans can suffer horribly and live awful lives. If he made it perfect, who made it imperfect? The devil? If so, the devil is as powerful, or more so, than god. Did man make it imperfect? So man is more powerful than god. It must be one of these things. Please answer this without using streams of meaningless platitudes.

[@jpatrick5271]

God made man and woman perfect and placed them in a perfect place. Then…He provided choice, because love can’t exist in the absence of choice. One of the original choices was to sin which entered our world and the consequence was an imperfect world and along with it the imperfect circumstances that can inflict the innocent. In this world we now exist in, if God prevented every negative circumstance, it would be a different entity than humanity - choice wouldn’t matter, and therefore genuine love could not exist.

[@bonnie8441]

A Mystic he is not.A day dreamer who has had too much time on his hands over the years...maybe.Too make a hole dig a hole.John strips everything right back to the bare bones.To nothing.His idea of Stillness and Prescense is nothing,which he also claims is spirit.Our thoughts are our mind.Our mind is our brain.Our brain is our body.We are our body.Once you're gone,you're gone.You become nothing.I personally wouldn't get too excited over that.Each to their own of course.

[@dickballs6627]

Even in all his wisdom, John Butler has gotten it wrong.

[@sweencreamer]

You can’t say he’s wrong unless you know you’ve got it right. So please teach us.

[@neogeo6482]

This guy's got s serious case of rosacea going on.