LBV Expander Kit Product Overview: Load Bearing Vest (LBV) Setup and Tips

[@jacobkonkel6793]

Having no personal military experience, I find it interesting how we're coming full circle back to a LBV as a likely solution to sustainment in the field.

[@jakebrandyberry9116]

But it looks cool

[@jacobkonkel6793]

@@jakebrandyberry9116 Oh yeah. Looks dope AF.

[@stanquire343]

Fighting an asymmetrical war with QRF & big brother doesn’t really require this type of load out unless you’re like a scout sniper team moving alone for days in the mountains. However now, carrying all the kit & sustainment looks to be ideal with the way the battlefield is shaping today.

[@warriorgospel8168]

Because the sweet spot is somewhere in the middle. The industry over corrects and often misses the mark several times before figuring it out.

[@duck_rifle5879]

I was just thinking the same thing. I think some of this circle is brought on by the fact that the GWOT was an unconventional war which brought about historically unconventional gear and tactics. We’re seiPeking tactics and gear come back to old concepts because that’s what works for most of the history of armed conflict.

[@bommie]

Just want you guys to know, I ran a 34A setup on the recent Arctic Aloha operation that 2/11 IBCT conducted in Hawaii/Alaska. Two static-line mass tacs onto Hawaii and Malemute less than 48 hours apart, both in-flight rigs; tropical climate straight into arctic climate. I jumped rig exposed. The 34A is a true beast. I was comfortable as hell and still had everything I needed on me: water, NODs, 148 radio, compass, mag, chem lights, batteries, etc. Even jerry-rigged an EUD mount to it with 550 cord and hung a conformal battery pouch on the loop strap across the back for guaranteed comms during the follow-ons. I imagine adding the butt pouch to it would make sustainment almost laughably easy. Looking forward to investing in this soon. Love your products, always innovating solutions for problems long before they present themselves. Cheers from a thankful paratrooper, 1-501st PIR 🇺🇸

[@nead6713]

Was with the Marines there, small world

[@dannyhanson3434]

All my homies hate 1G

[@bommie]

@@dannyhanson3434 ngl it's gone way downhill over the years. Been here going on 5 now, about time for me to find some greener pastures 😂

[@nomadmarauder-dw9re]

11th Airborne?

[@bommie]

@@nomadmarauder-dw9re the one and only

[@wadek3860]

Adam rocking the Onward Research cap 🤙🏼

[@ericsullivan7190]

I honestly would love a “left and right” version of the Mutant Pouch. Having that exterior pouch on either side, to potentially run two radios, would be ideal

[@mortalmonke8844]

God of the Battlefield

[@andrew-qs6qw]

I feel like we went all the way back to the MAC-V SOG days with packs like this. I don't have an issue with that, I just feel like that was worth mentioning. What old is new again.

[@Windinhisface]

As a man born out of time who has a heart for nostalgia I totally agree and love how after coming “full circle” we are starting to dip back into the old school gear ❤

[@Valkyrie1911]

Honestly, with that last setup, I don't even need a ruck unless its more than 72 hours. That's going to be my final setup once I'm done. Plenty of room for nods, nav, comms, emergency mags, water and sustainment items.

[@catchemdeep7184]

Light fighter theory

[@TerryWhisk]

Buttpack is too small lol good luck!!

[@longbow0728]

Well, add a small assault pack, and depending on weather and environment, you could be fine.

[@Valkyrie1911]

@@TerryWhisk Did you pay attention to the last setup? It wasn't just the buttpack. two tall GPs, two medium GPs, and buttpack. Along with two spuds. That's plenty for 72 hours on the civilian side. I'm not trying to wreck my body carrying 100lb+ packs anymore, my Army days are over. I'm 34 and I'd like to still be active into my 60s and 70s.

[@Valkyrie1911]

@@longbow0728 If its cold to the point of needing more than a tarp and insulating layer, I can see that. I live in the south though, so unless I'm in the mountains, its usually not bad.

[@normwilson117]

looks like my deuce gear..old, but new; innovative modularity; grateful for what you guys are doing for today’s warfighter and citizenry

[@TexasNationalist1836]

I want a butt pack like the 782 ass pack but I want to have one with the old Alice clips but with plastic buckles instead of the metal buckles

[@woodsarmoury]

So basically we are going back to 1980's style webbing. This setup is pretty much the same as the CF "82" pattern webbing I was issued in the late 90's.

[@Jim_CT5555]

As a commo guy assigned to the FiST, I can attest how much it sucked being short with butt pack on the LBE/LBV and humping a ruck. I plan on getting a 34A loadout as it looks amazing and has good functionality.

[@ween4314]

Blackhawk had the lrak m60 lbe system was and is the best. Greatest buttpack ever. Still have mine.

[@TRDfaithful]

I love this kit! Finally put everything together the way I like after 6 months of waiting for woodland m81 pieces.

[@ViktoriousDead]

We’ve come full circle. Everything old is new again

[@originalpastaman5470]

Me: "Looks pretty cool and practical" Spiritus systems: "That'll be $185.99" Me: "Oh, for the whole chest rig complete with pouches and the expander kit?" Spiritus systems: "No, just for the expander, the chest rig plus pouches will run you an extra $250 at least" Me: ....."Hey look, Kommando store is selling LBV 88's for 50 bucks, sweet!"

[@kerbalairforce8802]

I "cloned" a Vietnam butt pack harness for about $80 once.

[@JohnCaliri-yn3po]

Remarkably similar to our standard issue gear in the Corps back when I was in. Deuce gear, h harness, etc

[@JohnCaliri-yn3po]

Don't mean that as saying it's bad, I mean it is a time proven idea made more useable through current materials and mfg

[@Truckie3110]

I am really appreciating the videos on patrol basics, machine gunner setups, water basics, etc. Suggestion for other videos, maybe a team medic set up? A medic on patrol set up? Patrol base medic set up? For those of us who have the training but while in, that was not our MOS.

[@duck_rifle5879]

I’ve been waiting for this. Finally.

[@EliteElk221]

Been waiting for this ever since Adam's LBE shakedown

[@citizeninfantry]

The Snugpak G2 shelter is super lightweight and can even snap together as a bivvy. Perfect for a buttpack

[@billradley]

Never seen someone eat paste like your mom does.

[@NOPEFROG]

So glad Adam decided to do a video on the Buttcrack

[@reallyhappenings5597]

This is an enhanced buttcrack

[@arbuckle6770]

i had a buttpack on my PC for awhile. grabbed a free thrown away 82 pattern buttpack and ran it through the MOLLE

[@RackTheMilesWelding]

Ergonomically, it would be easier having all essentials waist level in combat. As an ironworker who has to wear a full-blown fall arrest web harness with bolt bags, scabbards, rod bags, and hooks, i can attest to that.

[@spaulidstate]

I really liked the USMC LBV for practical applications. The Marines that hated it only wore it with canteens because some SGTMAJ wanted them worn for some irrelevant parade.

[@epiggroup]

Nice product and perfectly explained! We also like the different setting options very much!

[@gunterstraus606]

I do like that it is a bit more streamline that a molle-on solution, and it's height will make it more comfortable, but I feel like I prefer the classic buckle flap top to the buttpack over the roll top. I do appreciate that the roll top allows for more volume adjustment though

[@sergeikolobashin1433]

Hello! Can you recommend a molle buttpack with classic buckle flap top?

[@gunterstraus606]

@@sergeikolobashin1433 Beyond getting a Nixieworks rig that's built around a massive flap buttpack, the first one that pops into my mind is the Velocity Systems Jungle buttpack. I use a SSO/SPOSN SMERSH myself that's in a similar design, and I've even used older ALICE buttpacks you could integrate into a belt pretty easily.

[@sergeikolobashin1433]

@@gunterstraus606 Thank you!

[@jaydoe4833]

Velocity Systems Jungle Butt Pack

[@sergeikolobashin1433]

@@jaydoe4833thank you!

[@reallyhappenings5597]

I get that there are some professional soldiers here, but a few days of home guard duty is all I ever expect to face in a wrol situation. Static, well-resourced, defensive. Figuring out that loadout, it won't need much

[@onseki1774]

This is getting into hypotheticals but I feel like as a civilian in wrol you will be spending a reasonable amount of time walking and being close to the ground just observing whats going on, taking notes, setting up barriers, etc. Military LBE is not really geared around carrying binoculars, rangefinders, maps, loose ammo, snacks, gloves, hats, cigarettes, 16oz water bottles, power banks and many other common civilian items. I like that spiritus systems products are very "open ended" and can carry whatever. Of course a walmart backpack or a duffle bag can carry plenty of stuff inconspicuously

[@rupert4677]

Always love your videos, Production Quality is sick. Keep it up.

[@Airsoftdesde1996]

Como siempre me dan ganas de adquirir más equipo👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@RobotPanda15]

This cycle is dope. I watch a Grunt Perspective Video on his belt kit updates to meet a looming peer conflict where threats to LoCs are very real, then Spiritus Drops this bad boy

[@Iamtherealeggman]

need to be able to give more than 1 thumbs up on this. spiritus is killing it!

[@unfi6798]

Great break down of shake down. Valuable updates. Cheers Digger from Australia.

[@robertdrawdy3749]

As someone in florida i definitely am looking at this. I used tk ruck witha plate carrier and it just started to not make sense in the heat for sustainment. Transfered over to a chest rig and a slick carrier in the bag for when i need it cause going on a 8mile hike through swamp is not fun in ANY carrier

[@Spartanoneonese7en]

I understand this product is designed to be used in conjunction with the 34A split rig, but molle was placed on the rear showing you guys gave some consideration to alternate ways of utilizing the pouch. Yet you omitted the belt pass through on this product, why? In the video Adam even states "the belt pass through that is organic on almost every pouch that we make." This is a buttpack, why does it not have a native way to belt mount it?

[@wheres_all_the_pie1991]

you can use Molle to mount things to a belt

[@Spartanoneonese7en]

Yeah I understand that. I was just pointing out that "The Buttpack," which are typically belt mount, lacks the way to belt mount "that is organic on almost every pouch we make." Also I would assume 5 -7 inches of belt pass through would both carry the weight better and be more secure mounting wise than two 1 inch nylon straps.

[@Williamdavis-ss7js]

Ergonomics front loaded designed for vehicles and logistics, hip loaded and designed for sustain ment

[@kodyhamel8127]

Awesome! Thanks Spirit US, I really enjoy these videos

[@jacksonhicks1869]

This is good content.

[@gunsofmasseffect4321]

Awesome little setup for sure.

[@darkchild130]

I never liked webbing but interesting to see modern companies going back to the old ways.

[@taylorfreeman5504]

I love my Eagle industries h harness that’s pretty much this with flotation and padding.

[@saltydog3394]

Did y'all hit 100K subs recently? either way good for you - thanks for sharing the info etc and even the clowns in the chat are entertaining ... "you're not in the circle bro, so you dont know" lol ya ok mad warrior dude...

[@jonnys_tundra]

Any idea when we might be able to get our hands on that Spiritus poncho???

[@jeevestherobot]

I love Adam and would never comett acts of terror.

[@mr.dinder9287]

Swagman roll from helikon Tex would pair well with this. I use one in my Nixieworks lfr and it’s awesome

[@trundelingporpoise2404]

Lfr gang gang 💪🗿

[@mr.dinder9287]

@@trundelingporpoise2404 yaaaaas 👑

[@firstchevalier]

What is old, is new again. Looks a lot like the deuce gear I carried (87-91). I carried a butt pack my entire time in the infantry.

[@ojh022]

Straps under the pack would be great to tie down my Jerven

[@scarlite4518]

Super stoked, snagged one

[@patrickoneill6821]

Sick Sick Sick but omg, I had no idea $$$$

[@xiaoxiong77]

This will be very useful for tunnel warfare as you constantly need to bend and crawl.

[@loyaljones8814]

No different from the old alice lbe setup I used in the Army. I still use a h harness with buttback,m16 mag pouches, and a compass pouch. Although I did update with a padded belt with old school pistol belt.

[@ronaldrobertson2332]

I've been trying to set up my duece gear (same set up as yours), but I must be wearing the backstraps too high. It's putting a lot of pressure on my upper back. I need to have one of my kids help me adjust it for me.

[@brucestarr4438]

When we switched to the Alice "Y" suspenders, I went out and bought a (new) old "H" suspenders for myself. I kept the old wooden handle E-tool instead of the tri-fold new one.

[@arbuckle6770]

@@ronaldrobertson2332 lower the suspenders straps and tighten the belt to your waist like a rucksack. should help.

[@Echo_Mike]

Laughs in British 1980s PLCE webbing

[@broncoadventures1]

The army is basically issuing this already with the new A-TAPS

[@BaconstheName]

Holy proprietary Batman

[@JayBlanco11C]

About time mortars got some love

[@charlesl5226]

Would be cool to see this used on other platforms. Other vest rigs or even on a pc since it has molle.

[@habichuelasolutions6849]

Think this might work at a photography rig for me

[@BoogiemanActual]

I know the tarp is an experimental product you guys are toying with… what on the market can mimic in in the meantime while we wait for y’all to release it?

[@coltonmullins2274]

Combat load of mag?

[@james97531]

Good stuff. Thank you

[@isaaktastet6324]

Now you guys just have to fix the elastic on the 34A rig to have 3 5.56 mags on each side instead of having mixed and matched magazine pouches

[@derekgibson8987]

Get a triple placard from T3 Gear. It has Moller on front so you're adding the capability for mags, and still retaining the molle to put your gp pouches and such up front. I agree it should already come like this but 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Valkyrie1911]

I like it the way it is because I can use it for different things...though one of them being a map pouch would be awesome.

[@MrWilliewonka69]

See i like the mix match elastic pockets on the back cause i run both 5.56 and 7.62 so it works great for me. If i had to choose one tho id go with a bigger 7.62

[@heelrod]

like a beez combat split rig? 3 mags on each side with a full front face of molle

[@ericmorales7857]

Parashooter makes a split rig that has three mag slots. Thinking it'll for prefect with this.

[@jetburrito5205]

Would you be able to use the tall gp pouch as a belt pass through

[@christophergennaro3712]

any chance we can get just the shoulder straps?

[@Apoc_Bone_Daddy]

I have a mighty NEED

[@GreatWhiteSquid]

Just like the web gear from the Vietnam era. Interesting. I still have the original

[@TheDabernet]

This is a Go preso. well done.

[@warriorgospel8168]

I think the industry, that means you, is almost there. The added weight and complexity of "modular" systems makes them less efficient. They're heavier, bulkier, an almost less adaptable. When you get to the point of purpose built systems where everything has its place with a few GP areas here and there, then tye industry will be right on target. There are only so many roles people will play and the base gear is all the same. It isn't necessary to have such modularity and it just detracts from the system. For instance, just sew packets for the Nalgene bottles on either side. It will cost less to manufacture, hang better on the side, lower profile, and less weight. If you're worried about limitations then make 2 versions and add one for canteens. It's cheaper, works better, and creates a certain level of commonality that will he helpful when teaming with others. I'm excited for the direction you're taking things.

[@warriorgospel8168]

Cheaper as in the cost to put webbing on the buttpack and then make a separate Nalgene pouch.

[@trippskits2503]

Looks like it should work well tracer tactical split rig

[@MgjdBCD]

Great video

[@ahmadcampbell2626]

The Old School LBE is Back... Just better material and Comfort in the places we improvised with ducttape & 550 or just Sucked it Up

[@puma51921]

Going full circle to the 70s

[@rogues1hit]

This is rad

[@donovannotmyname7306]

Kinda want to see what you guys can do with a Flic rig

[@HyperionTwo]

190 bucks for a single butt pouch thats proprietary to spiritus systems kit. Get the Fox Outdoor Recon Buttpouch for 40 bucks and you'll have the same roll up internal design and external waterproofing these have, plus more pockets and space, and it can be made to go on any belt/vest. If you want a removable internal bag just buy one that fits for 10 bucks. Now use the rest of the money you saved to buy an Enhanced LBV-88 or a USGI LBV and whatever belt you want + pouches.

[@cscearce2000]

Can always wear rucks with a Short Back configuration Crossfire rucks do that

[@selfrelience9384]

Can you explain why you would use this over a small pack/assault pack?

[@austinlowery1568]

Preference really. I’ve tried these old setups numerous times. Can never set them up in any real way that I like them. If the butt pack is too small, you might as well just use a GP pouch or nothing at all. If the butt pack is too big, it makes it a real pain to wear anything other than a daypack. A pain to ride in any vehicles, a pain to access the contents without taking off or moving the belt around, etc. If I had to choose between these old school belt kits, or a 25-30L assault pack for being out for an extended period of time, I’m picking the assault pack every time.

[@pootytang2872]

this allows the pack to rest on your belt gear. more comfortable when patrolling or riding atvs and bikes. also carry your personal items on your belt and mission critical in the pack. if you are a casualty , team mates take your pack and drive on without you.

[@Azimuth_ZeroDegrees]

With this, why couldn't you use an H-Harness instead of an X-Harness? With the 34 Alpha Split Rig you can use an H-Harness, so why the change?

[@TerryWhisk]

Money

[@ShadowDragon12341]

With just the 34A, all the weight is in the front, pulling that center cross strap up and into you, keeping the harness on you. Once you put weight in the back with the buttpack, that can pull the H harness back off of you. The X is supposed to fix that by crossing the sides that the front and back are supported from

[@huydo1930]

it looks very similar to the ww2 LBV with the X harness

[@jgs8367]

Can you provide any info on the small/LW looking shelter piece that you show in the packout example? I would be super interested in that for survival purposes. Most shelters are slightly too bulky to carry in an e&e kit

[@brucestarr4438]

You pulled out a wind shirt and poncho, surprised you didn't have a change of socks, too. If you're walking, you have to take care of your feet. Every grunt should know that.

[@ironteacup2569]

I like the product. could go for this if I end up not Mech

[@WeaponizedAutismiii]

Any chance there will be an option for no shoulder straps? Using a Warrior Assault Systems molle harness for a make shift battle jacket system and while this bag would be a great replacement for the Beez padded back strap matched with a molle sustainment pouch, the shoulder straps are essentially just going to be chucked into storage and likely never see the light of day again

[@TipTop_171]

Love it

[@jamesbell1082]

Just an opinion but looks like this would also be a good item for the PACOM Theater and the environment there again making guys self sustainable.

[@kevinmcdowell3446]

That was heavily considered in the development of this product, and Marines were part of the testing.

[@jsmaha]

Been playing around with different configurations. I would like to know how this would work with micro chest rigs or other chest rigs. As for just some 2 or 3 day campout this make a current belt/LBV a lot easier. Forest service can use this as well while fighting fires or searching. The LBV has been used for a lot of different things.

[@onseki1774]

It works fine with regular chest rigs and kit bags, just not with double belts. This setup does remind me somewhat of mystery ranch fire service bags. I even priced one out and its half the price but has limited accommodations for magazines

[@longbow0728]

Any recommendations for the seperate WW bag?

[@Jmillgo76]

Do you guys have a recommendation for a FO load out?

[@SpeedyMolasses]

Can you toss a JSTA or a Medium GP onto the clips kinda like you did with the Small GP in the tips and tricks portion?

[@chrisspiritus9043]

yes

[@SpeedyMolasses]

@@chrisspiritus9043 thanks!

[@markfarkas3287]

Wait a minute, if i have the buckles and attach the buckles on a PC you can have a detachable side pouch for easy access 👀

[@temperedgrizzly5988]

so will the H harness not work real well this setup?

[@jlew6890]

The 34 Alpha is legit. My favorite split rig currently.

[@jgt07]

Ima sucker for a good roll top

[@JG41]

Any eta on the 34a's in multicam tropic? Was hoping to order this and the rig together.

[@colinhunter1700]

What is the light weight tarp you use?

[@thecrimsonidiot8135]

Could this in theory work on a TAPs chest rig? May be a stupid question...

[@spartanpatriot3163]

Ahhhh we've gone back the the 60's.

[@nocebo8207]

cool hat - where I can buy it?

[@joeycoffeeaddict2640]

A lot of people are noticing that this is kind of a throw back to older gear. I think the thing to take away from that is how war is changing back into what it was

[@jetburrito5205]

could you use other pouches as a belt pass through?

[@chrisbrown6932]

He mentioned you'd be able to with other Spiritus pouches that use their belt pass throughs.

[@glennbailey9746]

Anyone know what pants and shirt the model is wearing?

[@dumpbagfullofshells]

What size dry bag will fit in the buttpack? Didnt see the dimensions on the website, didnt want to buy a dry bag thats too big and difficult to put back in after its been getting rattled around in my ruck and the items inside settle weird.

[@alexandervinckenbos]

Dude, if he is on SSRI i say respect. If not...dude...

[@EKG15x]

pretty interessting