Splatoon 3 Is Actually Fun Now

[@jakotens]

I’ve consistently been able to kill HYDRA players with Ultra Stamp now! It’s actually wild how big a difference it’s made lmao

[@zandensterner3918]

My friend and I are wiper players, we tested all the relevant weapons when we heard stamp works better, and we found no difference 😢

[@jakotens]

@@zandensterner3918 I’ve literally got more hydra kills with stamp in this patch than any other patch combined. Might just be internet? It’s not perfect but it definitely made a difference

[@RaptorEDWB]

As a vwellstring main this is absolutely true

[@TentenAurora]

I dont see a difference either lmao

[@mikul958]

@@TentenAurorathe only time it should make a difference is during the stamp startup, otherwise the odds should be exactly the same (and from my experience they are, stamp is just as shit as it’s always been for me and I wish they would fix it)

[@Typi]

Ultra Stamp went from a D tier special to a solid B tier just from these changes imo. I've also noticed less janky interactions between the classes you mentioned, but yeah I still see the rapid shooter swimming through a mile of enemy ink to splat teammates lol. Kraken also feels a bit better to fight.

[@poncy4357]

From someone who was able to enjoy the game even before the patch: this is a bonus

[@angussugna223]

It's crazy how long it's taken for them to start fixing their terrible netcode

[@polecat3]

Optimization is something best done after you're done adding features. It makes some sense why they waited until now: they didn't want to create more work for themselves later

[@Chase247]

That makes sense, but I still don't really see why the netcode had to be worse than Splatoon 2 (and 1) up until this point though

[@Timtams72]

@@Chase247 I remember I saw a video and saw the theory/potential idea that since the switch is a well, handheld console (or more so can be), they might've opted to go for a lower update rate due to the possibility of multiple switches being on the same network (Unlike S1 which would only be yknow realistically 1 console per household lol), and of course higher update rate means more strain on the connection, hence why they went with a lower update rate Now how true that is and if it was rly a worthy sacrifice is rly up to you (also hasnt the netcode from 2 and 3 been the same I don't remember much of a difference at all lol)

[@solo8324]

Regarding the wait for the Netcode: Fixing this game's bugs is much easier than fixing netcode. It's extremely fickle and there are DOZENS of moving parts that you need to be absolutely certain of before changing anything. Then, you need also need to check if players can fool it by messing with internal settings, so on and forth. They probably thought that the problem didn't exist to such a degree until six months ago and started working on it from then.

[@ED-gw9rg]

@@solo8324 Honestly I bet that the devs didn't see the problem much since they're in Japan, where P2P is a much more stable connection...Until they got past the language barrier and some folks in the west sent clips their way of the really strange netcode problems. That paired with making new Maps, figuring out Kits and balancing, AND making Side Order, I'm surprised they addressed this at ALL, because Smash Bros. Ultimate sure didn't and that was even bigger!

[@timtitus8204]

I personally haven’t seen any difference (except the stamp bit) so I’m hoping it’ll come in clutch someday.

[@demonslyr722]

I feel like the only one that's has noticed 0 difference with how stamp has been functioning and I've been 1 tricking a stamp weapon for like 18 months Genuinely can't tell if what people are experiencing is just placebo or this game hates me

[@MeloniestNeon]

It's 100% just placebo, I thought I felt it at first in around 3 matches of playing L-3 D but the moment I swapped to Wiper I got a game where I got shot through stamp like, 5 times (how many times I used the special), because I was positioning worse and wasn't popping it right on top of people anymore. Started positioning better to kill people before they could shoot me on Wiper, and what do you know, only died through stamp once that game against just as many shooters as the one where I died 5 times.

[@Daddy_Boog]

When switching from Splatoon 2 to 3, the laggy moments was definitely something that I at least felt the undercurrent effects of, while even noticing some more blatant lag things happening from time to time. Although I do love Splatoon 3, I feel like 2 was just a smoother game all around.🤔 Splatoon 2 just felt more balanced in everything from its weapons, to story mode, to even the Octo Expansion DLC; which is probably why it is still the number 1 played game on my Switch TO THIS DAY. I’m a huge Zelda fan, and I haven’t even played Breath of the Wild or Tears of the Kingdom as much as I have Splatoon 2 (yet), so that’s saying something!😳 I’ve only played Splatoon 3 for about 6 months now, so I can’t really compare it well in terms of playtime, but I still felt like there was more intentionality to make the game shine put into Splatoon 2. Like, just because chaos won the splatfest doesn’t mean that you have to also theme the game more chaotically and MAKE the game in a chaotic manner!😂 Side note: My brother had a CRAZY scenario one time when playing online with our cousin where the lag was SO BAD that it looked like a glitch!😭🤣 My cousin even got it on the screen capture video, so I got to see the madness!😃😅

[@Cluckenstein]

Parrying damage with squid roll is actually reliable for me now so being able to cha cha slide with squelchers and squid roll feels so amazing

[@scoreonthis16]

I took a 90 day break from Splatoon during this past sizzle season and explored some other shooters, and when I came back just recently, the amount of lag that Splatoon carried compared to literally any other shooter I played, was almost unbearable after playing games where the lag was much improved. It was hard not to feel like you’re not being rewarded for making small micro-adjustments during a fight, just to have the game not be able to process what you did on time. Also glad to see that SOMEONE over at Nintendo wants to see this game soar closer to its optimized potential. Thanks for sharing chase.

[@slamburger1479]

For me it feels like it got more laggy. I've never had this many disconnects

[@Chase247]

Well these changes don't really have anything to do with staying connected. It's just how fast data is transferred

[@paoloalmeidareal]

It shouldn't have, but I've also had way more sporadic disconnects after this patch. I've also seen the same complaint from other players. Although the patch notes didn't say they affected connectivity, they definitely did for some. Glad it hasn't hurt you tho

[@Chase247]

@paoloalmeidareal if that's happening it's most likely some other issue with the servers though, not the specific changes I'm discussing in this video, that's what I was trying to say

[@HK_on_YT]

​​@@paoloalmeidareal​I've noticed this too and I think I have an explanation for why this is happening due to the shorter network lag and why the devs have problems optimizing the netcode lag in general (as long as it's p2p): Technically, there must be some kind of acceptable limit in the game on the tolerated network lag (i.e. median jitter) for each player and if this acceptable limit is surpassed for a certain amount of time (i.e. no response in time), the game decides to disconnect the player since that would make the game unplayable anyway (which is why losing a battle even if an opponent disconnects does not count). By trying to improve the network lag in general, the devs must have had to reduce the acceptable limit, which leads to more disconnects. Trying to improve it further would lead to even more disconnects. One reason why they might have waited for this update is exactly because most casual gamers probably no longer play the game since casual players tend to play on WLAN as opposed to LAN and don't tend to optimize their router settings for gaming (i.e. enabling Quality of Service / device prioritization for the Nintendo Switch).

[@kirby260b3]

@slamburger1479 no joke I was saying this the other day quite literally more and more people mid game the connection unstable warning will show up mid game but you will still be able to move and then a bunch of jank happens where even if you hit people up close eith a fatal hit they will NOT die no matter what

[@SeaToon]

So brella shields are actually useable now? That’s cool, don’t play brella’s much anyways, but I’m glad that they fixed problems that would override an entire gimmick of a weapon or two

[@Williamfurno962]

Since the update I have gotten more situations where lag gets in the way of gameplay. And 4 of my friends all been stuffing the same issues.

[@Richyrion]

I remember back before the patch, I went back to Splatoon 2 for a bit and played the online, and I was honestly astonished how much more fluid the net code felt. Like much more fluid than 3's, and it just left me with so many questions on what's really going on.

[@Scorbunzx]

I finally got a gold trophy for big run!

[@qwertyqwertperson]

wait the big run already happened?

[@Scorbunzx]

@@qwertyqwertperson no but I hit the quota for it….how are we almost done did they even sleep?!

[@amxterxsu138]

​@@Scorbunzxto be fair, the game's absolutely massive in japan. they were probably playing while we were all asleep

[@Scorbunzx]

@@amxterxsu138 yeah but still we will probably go beyond Nintendo’s expectations.

[@Scorbunzx]

@@amxterxsu138 yeah but still we will probably go beyond Nintendo’s expectations.

[@JohnvanCapel]

My theory is that: 1. Whatever made the netcode as janky as it was in the first place, was *really hard* for them to actually find. As a programmer, sometimes this type of stuff just literally happens to code that shouldn't be having any problems. 2. The devs had to divide their time between Fixing Issues and Adding New Stuff for a long time. At that point fixing an already hard-to-diagnose bug just gets impossible so you start focusing on what you *can* fix and hope that's enough to keep people happy. As for my experiences, I can safely say that this patch was literally the buff Brella needed to be a usable main weapon. Still not great, but at least the lack of "lolnah you didn't open on the other guy's end" means it actually protects when it's supposed to.

[@Thomas48484]

Kinda disappointing it took them until just before the last splatfest till they ended up putting out netcode changes that still aren't the bare minimum of what you'd expect from an online shooter.

[@aveage-brush-player]

GOD BELSS THE DEVS STAPM IS NOW A USABLE SPECIAL FINALYYYYYYYY

[@linushsiao1693]

WAIT YOU GUYS CAN FEEL THAT??? Am I living in the past??? I'm already tilted to try to convince meslf that the game is less laggy but no, I LEGIT feel the same...

[@HK_on_YT]

Great topic, timing, and insights! You've answered exactly what I wanted to know after reading the update notes.

[@Gaming32i]

So what I'll say about development is this: - It's a lot easier to make general code improvements when you aren't worried about content. These changes have probably been in development for several versions. - Splatoon 3 having more lag than Splatoon 2 is probably due to them switching to a new networking library that is brand new (the old one is super old and even had some disabled checks for Windows 95)

[@seabirdflutter]

the patch came out just as i moved out. i think it has made some things better, but i'm still having issues with my shots dealing no damage, players teleporting, shooters killing me quickly, etc. i'm hoping to notice changes when i play at home :)

[@flynnmaxwell4089]

At least we’re gonna have this for Splatoon 4!

[@MKJBlewis]

Idk what everyone’s on about it’s so much worse for me lol. Folks are disconnecting and I am disconnecting much more often since the update. I’m also experiencing much more internet-related lag unfortunately. Hope they can do something to fix it.

[@felipevalladares8999]

I won't be surprised this change of the net code came this late do to all the craziness this content cycle was over all

[@Star_Rattler]

I haven't done much turf this week, but man am I looking forward to it now!

[@dtthire]

I play tenta Brella First game after 9.0 dropped, I died through my opened shield 20 seconds into the match I’m happy to hear y’all’s situation’s improved but for me, barely anything’s changed

[@GUSplatoon]

I liked, subscribed, and joined the discord server.

[@dragonempress8367]

This patch still didn't fix my gameplay... I constantly get dropouts, disconnects, and some specials kill me even when I already killed the player.

[@Used__Napkin]

I never had much trouble with lag in the past, but even post patch I’ve seen a hydra straight up kill an oncoming ultra stamp.

[@Chase247]

Yeah it's not 100% guaranteed to always protect from the front (it's not intended to) but it's way more consistent now. A fast weapon like hydra will most likely always kill it

[@NightW3VL]

It would always annoy me every time I used a weapon with Ultra Stamp because the protection from the front would be so janky. After hearing about the changes in this patch though, it got my hopes up just a bit! :)

[@Jxllen.]

might be able to actually play Splatoon 3 now after quitting from Season 1 now, this is crazy

[@Iceworm7]

Netcode is the devil and takes AGES! That they are making this change now is just shows they didn't want to drasticly compromise Features and weapons to bring a very time costly, but contentwise small change in an update that already has not enuogh new stuff. I think's totaly valid doing it now when no further gameplay features are expected

[@ssl3546]

I'm certain the netcode got improved on another, newer game and then the code was backported to Splatoon. No way they budgeted that much programmer and Q&A time on a game that was about to finish major updates.

[@forchettaa_]

It pisses me off that after two years they added scales to the salmon run. As a casual I've only played about 500/600 hours or less, but some people have thousands of hours of salmon, why this change now?!

[@Doceli-dg3cn]

Ppl just gotta be patient for stuff like this, i never a had a problem with the net code because whacky spots happen because its the switch online, so i just deal with it and just move on in order to continue put on in effort to win since this little thing won't stop my opponents beating me in rank games

[@Chase247]

Idk we shouldn't have to be patient just fir the game to function properly/the same as the previous two games in the series

[@Doceli-dg3cn]

I mean we ain't the ones who made the game or anything besides those who stuck themselves to 3 out from the previous 2 end up being patient anyway since, they never gave up on the game to begin with and are rewarded with nice changes like this. Who knows they may make quality changes since all the games in the series were never polished all of em had something that made them all kinda unfair 😬

[@LilCatSillyTheSillyOne]

Idk how it was before because i wasnt at the level till now, but funy enough doing salmon run with eggsecutive vip (rn with the final big run too) im getting BIG lag with the craziness

[@smidge742]

Hearing about Stamp change finally I can play the Vwellstring fully

[@Smokey_the_mule]

Don't get your hopes up. You still get shot through. It's just instead of an 80-100% chance of getting shot. It's a 50/50. (Probably more) stamp is still ass unfortunately.

[@alohriaa]

Your voice is so pleasing

[@Chase247]

@@alohriaa thank you!

[@crowpond3665]

Wait how your gameplay footage in the back ground so smooth??

[@qwertyqwertperson]

i feel like i trade way more now :/

[@IEatBrownies]

Ultra stamp still doesn't work for me. But I don't get disconnected as much so that's nice

[@Trattt]

Funny you say this because I got some hella heavy laggy matches lmao

[@olli_tvt]

It’s probably just bc I’m bad at the game or the weapon was good off of latency but painbrush’s range doesn’t feel as reliable anymore

[@DeltaTried]

2:58 yea no. Yesterday I killed a stamp with a carbon vertical flick from the front. 😂

[@Chase247]

Never claimed it works 100% of the time. It's just more consistent now.

[@FlameLFH]

Splatoon 3's matchmaking still needs to be fixed. I'm just slightly average in terms of skill and I keep having to fight top players. It's not fair. I've even played with YOU in Anarchy Open back when the game first launched.

[@Nihonguy]

it does feel better but ive still died to my fair share of crap, one i got killed by a guy who didnt know i was there and wasnt even facing me and I snuck up on him and killed him first, maybe thats an extreme case?

[@gameguys8019]

Bro I had 1500 hours in this game I traded it in at GameStop because of the lag being so bad, or at least that was one of the few reasons I gave it away, also I don’t know why it took so long to fix this

[@mushroomdude123]

I feel like something went wrong with this update. I’ve had a lot of really sudden and irritating disconnects. And I’m playing on ethernet. Also picking up clams/gold eggs is a lot laggier now.

[@RyleyPetell]

Two years to later imo

[@Theonlypik]

I literally just yesterday got shot by an e-liter through the tower control pole so I’m wondering if they just improved the America servers?

[@Chase247]

@@Theonlypik well tower control pole will always be janky no matter what I think

[@Theonlypik]

@@Chase247 that’s not it though i also some how got splatted by a walking (not slashing) decaviter then about a second after I died I splatted him

[@Makerkiddo]

*cries in aussie playing with europeans*

[@jonny9370]

Splatoon 3 has always been fun imo, I don't know what world other people live in sometimes lmfao

[@Chase247]

I agree it's just a clickbait title lmao

[@irishmonkeycowthe3rd180]

I don't see much of a difference personally. I think thats just because when you play the game for longer and longer periods of time in total, it takes up less of your game play in total than it did when starting again. Simple terms: When me play long enough, me notice bad parts less.

[@arcdj]

I've never had issues with lag playing s1 either, except with Japanese players sometimes lol

[@Teh-Dee-bear]

This netcode change has indirectly nerfed me as an Octobrush player lmao Jokes aside, I’d still much prefer better online than having bad online to take advantage of lag with an AOE weapon

[@glowstickspinalfluid]

idk about y'all but my connectivity has gotten worse? salmon run has gotten better but i'm getting so many more dcs.

[@JuhoSprite]

splatoon looks fun, I wish it was on pc

[@Alex_aka_trixy]

I’m just mad at nintendo for giving this game to us half done, and now finishing it off at the end of its lifetime? It’s still not even anywhere near the level it should be. and noticing this I’m starting to lose hope for how good the next game will be, they better go above and beyond. I doubt it tho

[@Alex_aka_trixy]

The tick rate is still the same as splatoon 2s. Which is 30% slower than Splatoon 1. A game that came out 10 years ago btw

[@willoesd2449]

8 year old console that’s why. Switch 2 is gonna be truly next gen especially for the splatoon franchise

[@Boomtendo4tw]

Its been a beta test since the first game

[@Tsukasasfavouriteboyfriend]

Still no better matchmaking I don’t think. I always lose at turf because my teammates always suck and the enemy team already be inking half of the map. It’s really not fun for me so I’m just stuck in my level 30 cage since I’m scared to touch turf

[@squiddu]

as it turns out they don't change things not listed in the changelog :)

[@Bman_Iggy]

Tested Stamp with a friend - It is not fixed. It protects better, but not fully. Still a w tho

[@Im_Just_A_Dreamer]

That’s the point of Ultra Stamp. It’s not supposed to block all shots from the front, just most of them.

[@Bman_Iggy]

@@Im_Just_A_Dreamer well if Krakens in the game Stamp should fully protect from the front

[@ArnoAfton]

for me,i actually find myself having more laggy matches after patch which is people teleporting around and kills you even you splatted them,i also think ultra stamp still didn’t work well even slow weapons like long range chargers still kills me often could it be just me who thinks like that or maybe it’s just me the laggy one Btw I’m a hk player play on jp sever

[@Im_Just_A_Dreamer]

You’re playing from hong kong on a japanese server? That explains it

[@ArnoAfton]

here a weird thing tho i was having less laggy matches before the new patch come out

[@MisterMeowstic]

Ive been having a lot of trouble approaching chip damage comps since the update. Splatana Stamp especially feels impossible for me to fight now and I already found that weapon absurdly strong to begin with 🫠 but that could also just be a stage design problem because it's not like I have a way around them most of the time.

[@RitterDerHaselnuss]

I felt absolutely no difference. But that's because i personally rarely experienced anything too bad. I see a lot of DCs but most matches i played are completely lag free. But i do know that others have struggled with it. Maybe peer to peer connection just works in europe Kappa

[@GavinDueck]

I havent seen much chanages maybe you could do a vid of the changes just a thought

[@Chase247]

its not really something that would be easy to demonstrate in a video, it's just something you have to feel out

[@komodilewolf]

Wait why does your gameplay looks like it has shaders?

[@paizonedout]

Give me the dualie sqelcher

[@Boomtendo4tw]

The lag is the same but now I die even quicker to stuff that never touched me. It's made brushes unplayable for me. I was going like 24 and 4 with inkbrush before the patch. Now I have no evasion cause I'm being hit by things on my screen that look like misses. The ultra stamp is worse too. Every time I activate it I'm dead already before I move. Amything with some kind of start up I'm dead immediately. Any shots miss at all cause of rng and I'm splatted. I've tried running lots of intensify action to minimize rng and it sorta worked. I don't think the game is fixed. It's better for ppl rumning host or who have less lag. Nintendo online is the worst online experience. Any other game works right including mobile games. I hope they fix things with Switch 2

[@JeremKO]

No.

[@theguyman5425]

Honestly? its crap. I totally agree its nice seeing nintendo doing at least something but a half of a frame? thats the extent they can push this... really? cool, guess i'll still be killed by laggy snipers just a little bit less now. If there really was something wrong with the underline game they should not have released it until it was fixed, i dont get why nintendo refuses to get with the times and just make dedicated servers for their games when they are literally the biggest game company around.

[@theclown2257]

It always was fun. Thers just less bullshit now

[@Chase247]

@@theclown2257 I agree it's just a clickbait title lol

[@theclown2257]

​@@Chase247 fair enough, lmao

[@darrensurff8554]

Beware of ye goo tuber lord 😮

[@peepeepoopoo-q8t]

love you chase

[@swizzler]

the ONLY thing that makes sense with the huge content update for the grand festival and this last-minute netcode change is Splatoon 3 DX for switch 2

[@spooky-helix217]

Match making is my least favorite thing about this game

[@khangalex7599]

I have one question

[@Grexxx10]

Bruh they would make SO MUCH MONEY if they released Splatoon on pc. I know Nintendo won´t ever do that, but a man can dream.

[@JVSTG4L4XY]

Hello

[@Zushi_hedgehog]

247 likes

[@KNGDDDE]

Idk wat it is with this really slow KZbin dialect but I'm really starting to dislike it.

[@Chase247]

That's just how I talk lmao, I got a solution for u tho, it's called 1.5x speed

[@KNGDDDE]

@Chase247 I don't want you to sound like Ben Shapiro my guy 👌🏼

[@007alztruli]

I've never heard anyone complain this much, about Splatoon of all games which already had some of the best online for any shooter on any console

[@Chase247]

besides just one comment about them taking long to make this change (and justifying it after) where exactly am I complaining? I'm literally gassing it up and praising the devs the entire video