4 techniques for 808 patterns - sound design and arranging tips (Ableton Live/FL Studio)

[@splice]

What are your favorite 808 techniques?

[@mlrd6622]

Slides.

[@mlrd6622]

I'm working on a new collab - soundcloud.com/violated-tracks/violated-holmes-project-so-far

[@SoniqSounds]

Side Chain and also EQ!!!!

[@garethmechwa218]

Ever heard of Ronny j 😀😀😀

[@rkken]

pitch envelopes to emphasise the transient

[@tom01b]

Technique 1, play the correct notes

[@arturskozlovskis124]

That would be a start. Lol

[@H.K.HmingaHMAR]

Sick

[@nickthechen]

💯

[@danji9485]

A surprising amount of people don't do this ;-;

[@user-hy4xz1qt9h]

there is sauce in an "incorrect" 808 note. it's a feeling. that's why you hear it in some commercial releases... this is music. not science

[@j0k311]

Kenny Beats told me not to sidechain my 808...

[@nickthechen]

jokemusic3 def dependent on vibe, sometimes it’s best to let them fight it out.

[@SoniqSounds]

it really depends.. but if you have good ducking or samples.. you may not need as much.. eq can do the trick too

[@floridastreethockey]

That’s officer Kenny to you

[@fiachramannion1370]

do what u want

[@Mar2beatz]

Nice info here as a beginner I always ask myself if it’s wrong or right to do it I guess it’s like y’all say depends on vibe Nd some might need some not thanks y’all stay safe

[@AldyWaani]

for some music producers being locked down isolated in the studio for days are the best productive time 😬 the world is running the life of the music producers or musicians daily life 😅 Stay safe, stay healthy guys! ⚡️

[@elton6031]

couldn't agree more

[@rivermana]

yh but its also nice to get out and get inspired from life and relationships

[@21redsox21]

“Definitely need to be sidechaining” *kenny beats has left the chat* lol

[@jojo-fj7lw]

Things I learn: -808s is a melody not a kick. Treat them as a melody instrument - make 808s 2 octave higher once its done put it down 2 octave so it will be easier to hear and be precise about the 808s note -808s & kicks should communicate each other -use 808s glides, pitch down to spice up (808s always mono not stereo) - add distortion to spice up 808s Etc (Feel free to add below what y/n learn so we all could learn more together)🙏

[@21redsox21]

Loudness does not always equate to being more noticeable. If that makes sense. Sometimes turning the 808 down a bit makes it sit much better and hit harder since the rest of the mix can breathe with it

[@xhustic]

God bless every one, we will fight through this, keep spreading positivity with your music

[@xhustic]

@Ni Ra through pandamic that cause by this flu✌️

[@cmdeckermusic]

That trick to see multiple clips' MIDI notes in Ableton changed my life

[@yvangelist568]

Is this possible in Logic Pro X?

[@Gainsforlife]

Yvangelist yes you must highlight all audio regions you wish to view. Then open the piano roll under view tab in top left hit the drop down and show note by region instead of the showing note by velocity. This will show multiple midi info based off the color of the region.

[@DistrictU202]

@@Gainsforlife what does this show

[@Gainsforlife]

@@DistrictU202 same thing but for Logic

[@bicho5925]

i never thought id see the day where the music on the tutorial is actually fuckin good. that second beat was nasty

[@KingKG]

Thank you, Nick, for this! I greatly appreciate your drive and your consistency! Especially during this trial and tribulation, we are globally going through. God bless you! And GOD BLESS SPLICE!

[@nickthechen]

Of course! Sending positive vibes to you and your family!

[@Narokx]

Moving from FL to Ableton, it was the perfect explanation for Glide's in Ableton! Also very clear explanation on the difference between portamento and glide... something I am ashamed to not have known prior to this video lol

[@esvofs6231]

more FL STUDIO on video !

[@MrRiukkuxnic]

I pray everyone is well! I needed this tutorial as well being I just startedwith splice. But the message just stuck with me. You be safe and healthy too fellow Nick. ^_^

[@Paytonwh]

BRUH I DID NOT KNOW YOU COULD LOOK AT THE NOTES OF ANOTHER MIDI CLIP IN ABLETON LIKE IN FL OHH SHITTT!!! THANK YOU!!!! @4:59

[@MisterLongoBR]

I'm a simple man, I see a new tutorial by Nick I go to watch it asap! Always good stuff to learn, huge thanks for it man!

[@user-lt2rw5nr9s]

As long as the 808 is tuned and in scale, would it be fine? Most of the time my 808 is melodic anyways.

[@djvne]

Graut yes exactly right. i found once you put youre 808 in key and on scale it automatically makes the song sound better no matter what pattern you use. this is music not science. if it sounds good it sounds good

[@eliv.o7105]

@@djvne music is science.

[@djvne]

@@eliv.o7105 10 months ago u fuck, music is not science. do whatever sounds good to you who the fuck cares lol

[@sandeepvaheguru]

Kick and the 808 relationship, are they talking to each other? :)

[@StefanHayden]

still a beautiful light setup!

[@DJINNMODE]

Thanks for the tips 💯🔥

[@tuffs_me9262]

Can these tips be useful for logic Pro x?

[@nickthechen]

CRISH-P yes!!

[@NigelMerrick]

Thanks for keeping up your great work, and hope you and your family remain healthy and safe. And thanks for helping the rest of us to stay sane by learning something cool :-)

[@nickthechen]

Nigel Merrick It's the least I can do! Best wishes to you and your family as well!!

[@eli-shulga]

So at 3:55 you bring up a painful - Case when you have one note just too low but getting everything a octave up is too high. Any tips for this case? Thanks these videos super helpful

[@Nkodtb]

Yo i want to see more of these tutorials. Despite using fl for 6 years, im still learning!

[@Gainsforlife]

DreThaBeast - if you’re not always learning you’re dead 💀

[@averypiper9833]

that very last beat was great

[@certainlyjoel]

Lovin' the second track man!!!

[@khz5324]

i understand the concept of glides but placing the notes is where i get stuck at

[@Aviorrok]

Great as always! Thank you Nick

[@vexaholic]

where can i find that beat at 5:05 oh my goodness!

[@sunnym3961]

Thanks Nick. Stay healthy and keep creating fam!

[@nickthechen]

Sunny m you too man!!

[@evantempo]

like for radiohead reference, share for everything else, great video

[@elchanancohen2673]

This is gold! Wow

[@shawnmanifestit]

Thanks for the valuable info, you put out some of the best content!

[@nickthechen]

lowkeys thanks for your continued support!!

[@BraveHeartOriginals]

Thanks for the info 😊

[@SwishBeats]

All the beats he played from FL Studio hit better than Ableton lol

[@parrat8589]

Sounds like you're remixing the reading rainbow theme song

[@ItsOPMD]

Wow !! Very Good Stuff Here !!

[@elchanancohen2673]

808’s are all about 09:23

[@iamtonisilvers]

Thank you man for this one !!!

[@GameOver-uo9nm]

oh i WILL stay positive......corona positive that is....😶 just kidding, Great Video!

[@PNoirmusic]

Thx for your tips and stay safe 🙏

[@BBDxGAMER]

Can someone help me I'm dumb, how do you get your 808s to show in a keyboard fashion to be used? I use Ableton live and when I try to use an 808 on a midi track I can't fund or arrive at that display 😭

[@riktascale4]

Thanks buddy👍

[@shine_uno]

4:33 beautifu rim_snare

[@juliasmithoficial]

this hits HARD!

[@rolkalemalefik]

5:05 is a game changer man

[@jessetaldotcom]

Great tutorial.

[@jakehettinger1087]

great vid. Thanks Nick & splice for the tips!

[@Fugue602]

Idk why I’m watching on my phone, I can’t hear no 808s haha

[@taylorkim965]

yo that song X key at the end is dope , would love to see a tutorial on a breakdown of that track

[@kennethromero3048]

Stay safe guys

[@DykenSM]

2:30 Am i dumb or it sounds like actually A# minor and not like F minor?

[@CITYDAGR8]

8:30 not necessarily I leave mine on I like to hear my 808 notes. So I leave mine on port and set it to 133ms and set it to one voice. But it really don’t matter depending on your release time so you’ll hear glide sound when your notes are legato ✌🏾

[@mikecalderon7880]

So simple yet brilliant thank you!

[@tou-send4349]

my man, did you get beat up? U ok?

[@alexc9278]

Thank you so much sir!

[@pagxn]

Best tips after 8:08 time mark

[@TK-gp1nz]

6:21 "kind of gums pack up"

[@Ph423b00k]

isnt portamento the thing where u slide directly from a note to another, where glide is that he plays the notes inbetween start and endnote?

[@nickthechen]

3typen It depends on the DAW, but in Ableton portamento will slide directly from one note to the other (but both notes will sound at the same time). Glide slides from one note to the other (based off of the end of the note) but only one voice can sound at the same time (monophonic)

[@Ph423b00k]

​@@nickthechen thank you. musically it has nothing to do with polyphony. If you have a Hardwaresynth like Roland Jupiter 6 or something with Portamento and Glide/Glissando you clearly can listen the difference

[@prodtxxzy]

The first melody is like wtf

[@cassettepat]

I’ve quit music making today after about 15 years. Absolutely sick of spending my life looking for sounds and making half tracks which sound shit and nobody listens to

[@nickthechen]

Dodger Palmer don’t quit! Feel free to dm me your tracks for feedback!

[@cassettepat]

nickthechen that’s kind of you, I’m completely sick of sitting at my laptop for 3 hours+ achieving nothing and then being pissed off for the rest of the day. Sure I’ll send some stuff over, can you direct message in KZbin?

[@nickthechen]

Dodger Palmer send me a dm on Instagram @nickthechen

[@cristiansepulveda1595]

What's that "wuaaaa wuaaaa" sound called at 4:31?

[@micirei]

That's a synth my G

[@nickthechen]

Yeah it’s serum (a synth) with saw tables and automation on the filter cutoff.

[@maxbpro5011]

I love the slide and distortion tech

[@BeattapeFactory]

basic shit as i expected

[@ysbles819]

Terrible