Bounty Hunter BJ Breaks Down The 1984 Hawkins Case Part 3

[@dh22mr.heavyhanded15]

If he told like y’all say he did, why ain’t none of the homies saying he told. My grandpa is from the Nickerson “OOOG GreenBean” he said he ain’t tell.

[@SplifDTV]

Exactly THE HOOD SAYS OTHERWISE MY POINT EXACTLY

[@richardminfield6767]

PEACE KING 🤴🏾 you and I are about the same age when I was growing up I was always told to be careful of the people that want to put all these who's a Snitch Storys in your ear when it's actually the snitch himself

[@dh22mr.heavyhanded15]

@@richardminfield6767 I’m 31 I grew up a couple years on 134th & Dern WSP. Went to Vanguard pushed up on magic Johnson park on the dirt bikes hills. I seen a lot but never said a word. But I’m originally from Kansas.

[@juliusreed5273]

I was born in Wichita Kansas but lived in Inglewood for 10 years on Wadsworth in the bottoms it was crazy in the early 90s

[@dh22mr.heavyhanded15]

@@juliusreed5273 You related to the REEDS 👀

[@nachosnomo7871]

I have no dog in this fight, but I saw the story on this case. A whole bunch of these dude's told on their homeboys. FACTS!! Let me see if I can find it so I can share the link...

[@TexMexGenX]

Its called A Warning from Gangland or something like that. A Frontline program

[@ZabDevin]

Facts. Many of them snitched.

[@officialsoufsideslim2352]

Hunters took a major L. I respect the Hawkins how a gang of 300+ couldn't even make them move out the community a old man & his 3 sons held it down against a whole gang Hunters loss alot of respect all that loud talking & getting hyped don't mean nothing

[@acroyerx1193]

You are 100 percent correct on that.

[@biggerthanhiphop7641]

It wasnt the whole gang against them .. yall be living a fantasy ... U really think that 300 people was scared of the Hawkins .. lol ... The world dont work like that . God was over them. They should be thanking god they made it threw and be humble

[@officialsoufsideslim2352]

@@biggerthanhiphop7641 what did the hunters accomplish in this war? besides getting locked up & loosing members 18ppl got locked up 1 gone & they still ain't make the family move out the area that's an embarrassment to the whole organization they gets no respect facts are facts all that loud talking like a chicuaua ain't no real bounty hunters

[@officialsoufsideslim2352]

@@biggerthanhiphop7641 never said anyone was scared obviously the Hawkins had no fear salute to the Hawkins

[@acroyerx1193]

@@biggerthanhiphop7641 Son, I was THERE. My family knew and did business with the Hawkins, as they tried to do business with other Black owned businesses. Hawkins and his sons, particularly James Jr., were military/war veterans who knew far more about the use of weaponry and Guerilla warfare and were willing and able to meet these cats on THEIR terms. And the POINT obviously flies right PAST you: 1, only 10 percent or less of ANY gang are true riders to begin with, but they are supposed to have the entire gang BEHIND them, so why wouldn't the whole gang be against the Hawkins after James Jr. gunned down one of their YGs? 2, the Hawkins tooled up and waged WAR against these fools; THAT is indisputable no matter what some old thug wants to claim now. They stood and fought and lost not ONE of their own. In fact, the Hawkins home and a couple of their businesses were and ARE located directly across the street from Nickerson Gardens, on Imperial Hwy and Slater. The Hunters got their asses kicked so bad that they STOPPED attacking those locations and started going around attacking the Hawkins OTHER businesses around L.A., including one of their funeral homes which they broke into in the middle of the night, violated and disrespected the bodies of folks' deceased relatives and set the place on fire. I know th excuse was "well, the police were helping them"; the police weren't staking out their house until the THIRD night of that feud. And since it was 4 people against a fucking GANG, why the hell shouldn't the police have gotten involved? These niggaz ran up against a real gangster, criminal, thug muthafucka and killer named James Hawkins Jr, who they were afraid of and couldn't FUCK with. If that man had been a Bounty Hunter Blood, he would be hailed by them today as their greatest soldier. But he was AGAINST them, and they made the mistake of fucking with his family. A family who had lived and run businesses in Watts since the late 1940s, before these fools were even heard of. Good Black folks were, and ARE, on THEIR side.

[@wha-whereyomamastayatvlad1642]

Easiest way is to post the the paperwork

[@balle733]

If you look it up and it’s a plea deal then they probably didn’t tell.

[@chillywilliedfw9093]

He made a good point about the homegirls or homies smashing the laws on the 😎.

[@acroyerx1193]

All y'all, everyone, PLEASE cut the bullshit. When you enter into a plea agreement, ANY plea agreement, the D.A., U.S. Attorney or whatever you are dealing with are going to INSIST that you undergo ALLOCUTION. In short, you must give a truthful statement, whether written, audio/videotaped or in open COURT, and under penalty of perjury in any case, as to YOUR part in the crimes which you are pleading guilty to in exchange for the plea deal, as well as any accomplices. If you do not agree to this, you will not GET a plea deal, or if they find out later that you lied, they will VOID your deal. The point is that you don't GET a plea deal unless you give these folks what they want, PERIOD. Anyone telling you that they agreed to a plea deal but didn't have to snitch or give information on ANYONE is full of shit. Why would the state or the feds give someone a deal unless they were getting something FROM them? What it is, these cats will never cop to having snitched, so they try to change the definition of snitching. "Well, I didn't testify in open court, so I'm not a snitch". No, you cooperated by giving them the same information in an oral or written deposition. It is just as binding as testifying in open court. "Well, a snitch is someone who informs for the police". Sure, but what is someone who offers incriminating testimony, or corroborates incriminating testimony in a criminal case to reduce his or her time? On what planet is that not snitching?

[@khniawhiteside2853]

FACTS

[@Shunemac53]

You don’t have to snitch on anyone else to get a plea deal

[@mikecamacho1993]

I can speak only for myself but I didnt have to do anything else but plead guilty. I had to admit that I'm guilty of the crime I'm being charged with. i didnt have co defendants, but I definitely didnt have to write any statement. All I had to do was sign my guilty plea

[@acroyerx1193]

You signed a statement, right? Did that statement feature, in DETAIL, the crime/crimes you were pleading guilty to? THAT is allocution. You don't HAVE to write the statement yourself; in fact, the statement which you sign to enter into your plea agreement will NEVER be written by the person pleading guilty. It will be written by the D.A., State or U.S. Attorney, and you sign it to make it BINDING. The point is, you don't GET a plea deal unless you allocute to the facts, whether that means testifying in court or signing a confession.

[@emitch562]

Amen

[@Setxboy]

I'm glad I don't need to know the law like that. Never menaced other black people for a living.

[@larenzowesley30]

You need to know every law no matter what, as a regular citizen 😂

[@frankbrown7121]

I just watch video of this case last night..I though that was him on the stand in his younger days.

[@lifewithus2384]

Ben carr took the stand

[@harveyperrysr6361]

I'm 56 years old and I'm from the other side and in that era of gangbanging what no known snitches walking the streets and damn sure the yard. #HP #aka #BluMile

[@tonycurtis8666]

I’m coming to LA in FEb I’m tapping In with NINO

[@napoleonalcorn860]

Only one lawyer from the public defenders office can represent your case if you got 10 ppl on your case 9 get paid attorneys cuz anything else would be a conflict of interest. You just can't ask for a paid attorney cuz they will just give u another public pretender.

[@Gangstermo_310]

2:24 If Admission of guilt (statement) was given to the DA from your attorney for a plea-deal, Then why was the detective able to take the stand and read your statement 🤷🏽‍♂️ I can answer that. it's because BJ gave a initial statement to the police when arrested prior to any Court arraignment. That's called snitching.

[@mookiemookie3758]

Respectfully, Splif TV can you ask the OG Cap about the young dude on they case named Louie Williams ? He was the youngest one want to know what happen to him ? He still alive etc ?

[@texking3000]

Nigga dem burgers and dat got damn strawberry lemonade ohhhweeee💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🤛🏾

[@keithdudley9199]

Now the OG BOUNTY HUNTER FROG said they never should have been Banging with the HAWKINS in the first place because it was to close to Home. Said the store they actually had Beef with was the one by Carver Park so yaw didn't listen to the OGs🤷

[@SplifDTV]

The Hawkins Son killed the lil homie who was 16 that's how it started

[@acroyerx1193]

@@SplifDTV What little homie was this? Anttwon Thomas wasn't 13; he was 19.

[@originalbountyhunterfrog1992]

@@SplifDTV THE 2ND GENERATION WAS ROBBING BLACK FOLKS ALSO , THEY EVEN ROBBED A HOMEBOY 'S MOTHER BY ACCIDENT BECAUSE SHE WAS LIGHT SKINNED . I'M FROM THE ORIGINAL BOUNTY HUNTERS ERA AND WE LEARNED FROM THE BLACK PANTHERS , OFFING THE PIGS & ROBBING WHITE FOLKS . JAMES HAWKINS WAS IN HIGH POWER LA COUNTY JAIL WITH MICHAEL DORROUGH , AND MICHAEL TOLD (BJ) TO STAND DOWN & LET IT GO , AND (BJ) 100 PERCENT OBEYED . 1983 , 1984 THE TRUTH & REALLY REAL , BGF WAS THERE WITH (BJ).

[@originalbountyhunterfrog1992]

@@SplifDTV SO MANY SO CALLED HOMIES DONE RAT ON MURDER CASES AND DRUG CASES TO THE POLICE STATION & COURTS , I WILL GIVE A ROLL CALL OF THE NICKERSON GARDENS PROJECTS RATS & NOBODY DONE NOTHING ABOUT IT OR NEVER BURNED NOBODY APARTMENT OR APARTMENTS UP , TELLING BEEN GOING ON WAY BEFORE (BJ) CAME AROUND , HE JUST DON'T KNOW THE REAL RATS HISTORY OR MAYBE HE DOESN'T CARE , LIKE THE REST.

[@nachosnomo7871]

@@originalbountyhunterfrog1992 You, Sir, Are 100% Correct !!!!!! Once, in Chino Ad-Seg ( Cypress Seg.) I overheard two Crip's talking to each other from cell-to-cell, and I shit you not...this is what I heard. "Yo Dog, C-Dog told, Cuz !! C-Dog told...But he aw-ite"!!!! I couldn't help it. I broke out laughing my motherfucken ass off right there,homeboy!!! That shit was fucken hilarious!!!!

[@juicecountydre]

It’s even worse today

[@coachrobinson9958]

It was tight as hell in LA County , back then in the early 80s. I remember some of that S##T back then. 😌

[@sadat9971]

Hate to think that way but it sounds it. He doing too much talking that does not deal with anything relevant. Speaking hard on nothing

[@SplifDTV]

You have to watch the previous Parts

[@user-vq3kw3ze3f]

This happened during the Rampart scandal? Nope. Different decade.

[@beegee9354]

I want to see this documentary

[@Hborn]

I was listening to the real Roxanne in 1984

[@BobSmith-said]

Is he going to speak on lil Louie mom saying they made young boys top em off

[@titusb792]

Yea that shit still don’t sit right w me

[@Army4life82]

What??

[@titusb792]

@@Army4life82 In the Trial OG Bj spoke about, the mother (I believe was the mother) detailed How some gang members made young men perform oral sex on them

[@Army4life82]

@@titusb792 what kind of gang Is this ? Back in the 70s 80s & 90s that shzz ain't go down that was an automatic violation!!! You was gonna get yo azz beat drop your flag & pray they ship u the hell out of hell out of there. That ain't standing on business wtf going on in CA??

[@titusb792]

@@Army4life82 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXivcnV_gKlmfNk Yea it messed me up when I first heard that part, some things you just don’t do

[@gradycowley5303]

Why is this not a movie???

[@DoubeEdged7]

Not everyone is interested in life in the PJs

[@teairecurls9009]

I can run with most of what he said here, although I do have some reservations. If he said that no one made ANY such statements... and the DA came in with prepared statements written by the state? That's plausible but really there's nothing you can argue here without the paperwork saying he made those statements and signed them. First... a state appointed attorney and a public defender are one in the same... to argue that point you're just splitting hairs and trying to muddy up the water. That being said, your state appointed lawyer dropped the ball in your case, because it was his DUTY to object to any and ALL statements made... (especially statements you DID NOT MAKE). He should have filed every motion in the book to get those statements thrown out. The optics that leaves behind makes it look like you in fact made those statements. That's neither here nor there... the separatees issue is blurry, because although they will seperate co-defendants who are states witnesses, you can make a statement and not necessarily be a witness for the state. You can make a statement, then refuse to take the stand repeating the statement... or you can try to retract your statement... in either case, the statement is admissible. In this instance, your statement is state's evidence, but the person making the statement isn't necessarily cooperating. So there's no need to file for separatees . So you could have told (by making the statement) but decided against it after the fact... which LOOKS LIKE what happened here. Since there's no paperwork to contest what happened it's he said - she said... and you TECHNICALLY can't be called a rat without that paperwork.... But the argument that you HAVE TO get on the stand to be a snitch, is a weak argument... and you shouldn't be trying to make it.

[@blackwolforder23]

Are you a lawyer?

[@1youarewrong]

Facts facts facts and you can make a statement and not be snitching as well. You can have an entire conversation with the police and not say anything incriminating, but it’s smarter to stay quiet because you can say something more times than not that’ll lead to you incriminating someone or yourself or at the very least your statement will be used in an attempt to incriminate someone or yourself. Plea deals w codefendants are tricky because the court looks at it as an admission of guilt. So it’s seemingly high risk to take it to trial when your codefendant has pleaded out. However snitching is giving any information that leads to a conviction. It’s not that hard the lines aren’t blurry. You get caught you keep quiet and allow your lawyer or state appointed attorney to do the talking. But as you’ve stated there’s no paperwork to verify his statements so people can’t say if he snitched or not

[@teairecurls9009]

@@blackwolforder23 I've been in enough courtrooms and federal prisons to know the law

[@sonnyrossmiller9913]

@@teairecurls9009 exactly.. ppl really try to wiggle out of snitching with that I didn’t take the stand excuse… rather ppl want to admit it there is levels or degrees of snitching.. you can call the police anonymously on someone saying they have a gun or sold drug or kidnapping and it won’t be paper work on that..you can also be an informant and not be in any paper ( drug addicts prostitute ppl that’s not credible witness but tip police off to criminal activity). He then said he told police he had a gun? That’s snitching.. I like listening to og and this the first I heard of this case.. they was suppose to ride but I do think he snitched but they were children so it’s to be expected.

[@teairecurls9009]

@@sonnyrossmiller9913 that was my point on part 2... these were kids at the time, and sometimes you make mistakes that you wish you hadn't later.

[@thereal3684]

U can give statements with out getting on the stand he think he can trick someone with the talking lol way all yo paperwork

[@sanjokeepitlit5453]

Is this the foo that comes on that Hawkins vs bounty hunter video. Didn't he took the stand.on the video it's says he was place in a different housing for his safety

[@SplifDTV]

Nope not him

[@BenHillFinest]

No this isn’t him. All they said about this guy is that he gave a statement. But he didn’t tKe the stand.

[@bigjerm8257]

Ask him about Louie Williams

[@mookiemookie3758]

I said the same thing in the previous video

[@CharlesRoby92]

Who is Louie William??

[@bigjerm8257]

@@CharlesRoby92 the boy who the documentary was about. His mother kept getting interviewed.

[@615loc3]

What Louie do?

[@mookiemookie3758]

@@bigjerm8257 and also which was kind of weird the mother said “they thought he was snitching so the neighborhood kids tried to force him to do sexual acts”

[@kalvinkross5008]

I remember that shit like it was yesterday

[@eastwood6723]

If they was telling they would not have the witness around them yall or clowns 🤡 they would of broke them up because one of they lawyer would of came back and said somebody telling

[@raukurawaihaha]

I fucc with Nino. Considered thought n ain't fake. He goes there but knows how to reign himself in. Self regulated, OG 💯

[@streetgainer]

Hawkins fk’d y’all up. Admit the L

[@coachkay773]

You snitched OG like 7 of y’all did facts

[@losangeleshalflife1879]

WHERES THE PROOF !!!

[@mikelarry3455]

was he in the group? 1984

[@coachkay773]

Look at the Hawkins case like 7 of them snitched That’s why he was walking around and Nickerson Gardens with a security guard or a police officer

[@blackwolforder23]

Any time a person scream facts…is likely telling a lie😂😂😂😂…

[@1mgstone484]

@@losangeleshalflife1879 go type in the Hawkins trial on KZbin those are big facts and if you read his body language you can tell he told before the reporter tells you how he made a statement!

[@normreye7430]

He looks like Jesse Lee Peterson.

[@ZabDevin]

He named names. What’s that called? Watch the documentary and decide for yourself.

[@Army4life82]

I don't give a damn if he snitch where is Louie and what about what his mama Said?? Hello???

[@joemosely9383]

He wants us to believe our eyes & ears are lying to us. He Told.

[@balle733]

The police can paint a narrative. If you are black you know that is possible.

[@michaels5659]

Then what did u do to b called a snitch

[@jersey_plug9421]

really quick..1. not trying to judge.. 2. I know it happened it a long time ago.. But in the video the 3 not wearing blue, is it because they were juveniles? They look between 13 to 15... You guys did not already have enough people? If you were in your twenties, you were suppose to tell them to go home...

[@marlojoubert7269]

Great Knowledge 👌

[@jahfiyah619]

Where is lil MR. From BH

[@GodMath7]

Hawkins Jr got a life sentence for 2 counts of murder he tied up 2 drug dealers and shot them execution style

[@mikecamacho1993]

this dude is full of it. Thats why he's talking so much.

[@MACCMALONE]

1984 RAMPART P.D WAS DOIN SHIT BUT THAT WAS NOT IN THE NEWS...

[@phijac196]

Bj too smart gotta be a gemini

[@gotalotta28]

Salute.. WATTZ.UP.YHAT.PART.

[@MADNEWYORKER914]

Who is "G Baka", what's his story???

[@jockobotzi]

NOT G BAKA,CHIEF BACA FORMER CHIEF OF L.A. COUNTY SHERRIFF DEPT

[@BenHillFinest]

Gary Barker is the founder of the BH Bloods

[@Gangstermo_310]

14:21 Splif ain't even from California 🤷🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️ and you calling them "conspiracy theories people" people online didn't make this up out of nowhere. The case was broadcasted on TV, it's online. The detective takes the stand and reads BJ's initial statement that BJ gave to police before any court arraignment. BJ's trying to mix it up by saying the statement they're talking about is the one he gave to his attorney and DA for his plea-deal. That's not true tho, detective takes the stand and reads BJ's initial statement from when arrested way before any court hearings.

[@PicturePerfectTV_]

The police been crooked and still is….

[@RMS1983]

Patter-ins 🤣🤣

[@beingrealainteazy8632]

Where's all yo co defenders?..to back up yo story

[@tyreeceel9721]

It sounds good. If I get on stance and drop names of my codefendants and tell the court what gun each codefendants had . Am I not talking. You do the math. Big homie. You was younger but you broke goon rules. You tell a good story I give you that. But it hit different now you been exposed. Woof tickets

[@Army4life82]

OGs don't have "boys" in jail

[@adamrobson80]

Won't fit me 😆

[@scottdavis7362]

Real brother right there.

[@donjon9784]

He talking in circles, don't sound like someone who telling the whole truth!

[@SplifDTV]

He's breaking down the whole case

[@ronaldwilliams5131]

Talking in circles? he got straight to the point

[@donjon9784]

@@ronaldwilliams5131 bunch of hot air, he tells boring stories...

[@balle733]

@@SplifDTV most of these comments are people not in the streets. Ppl should stop feeding into them.

[@tyreeceel9721]

LOL

[@mr.lee1008]

Ask him about wack 100

[@sanjokeepitlit5453]

Hold tf up

[@calvertclark2252]

Giving a statement started in the piggy house “ so stop lying

[@craigedwards2512]

Bj you is not correct

[@blackwolforder23]

Craig…learn how to structure a sentence.

[@HB_GSmoove]

You definitely skipped English and Grammar Classes 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Army4life82]

#where is Louie ? & Why did y'all touch on what Louie mother said ? Ain't no gangs allow that type of shzz especially in the 70s 80 & 90s my daddy caused so much hell in Cook county and that's one thing no real gangster condoned or participated in WTF Going on here

[@bizzycharles7217]

I checked out the documentary they knew the police was on there side and those young boys still brought the 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥thats gangster 💯