SPORE MINES ARE DRIVING EVERYONE CRAZY! (Space Marine 2 Discussion) Patch 5.1

[@rajathebull4121]

These are really the only things I complain about. I make it theough like 70% of 2 lethal runs last night without taking damage. Then all of a sudden in a swarm, it had to be like 12+ spore mines spawned around a corner and i had no idead. I dodged the first one thinking it was the orange warrior, one exploded and cause a chain reaction, drooped me down to like 10 health 😂

[@marktrader4205]

This and the double beam form the zoanthrope are the worst enemy attacks in the game

[@geovannewashingtonashwood]

They called me crazy for constantly trying to destroy spores because they are appearing more often...

[@Jbonesaa]

I just hate how they’re silent, yes another comparison to darktide but DT has unique audio cues based on what enemy just spawned in I think this would be beneficial.

[@abrahamtroska1382]

Definitely an issue, not saying that they should be removed(although definitely wouldn't complain), however i often times have them spawn on top of me regardless if there is an enemy wave or not. Looking around constantly to see a little collection of green floaters, okay fine, easy to take out. But when in the middle of a wave and a waterfall of 60 come out if the wall to turn you paste and theres no time to panic roll I feel shouldn't be the standard. I have had mobs blink in dorectly next to/on top of me mid mission with no prompt or warning. Such as after a wave clear, moving to next objective then 4 majoris 10 gaunts and 6 mines that immediately detonate

[@insaneHollow]

I’ve never had any issues with spore mines…until today. I was doing some ruthless on inferno, and we were at the second to last bit outside the final objective area. When the three of us in the squad cleared the majoris, we were sprinting towards the weapon change to grab ammo. All of a sudden, we got a notification that a massive wave was spawning, no big deal, but then a flood of spore mines come up from under the balcony or catwalk or whatever you’d call it, and all immediately exploded on us without any indicators. (Maybe one of my teammates shot them causing a chain reaction idk) All of us went from full health, to the defeat screen faster than you could say emperor.

[@mmwosu]

Don’t need to watch, the answer is YES!!! Anything that can ruin a run even when no one made a mistake needs to be looked at. It’s only unfair when they spawn right on top of you and then begin attacking immediately, often before you even realize they’re there. THAT is the annoying and unfun part, and on higher difficulties, the possibly run-ruining part when you didn’t even make a mistake.

[@UrNotThatGuyPal1212]

They’ve spawned right on top of me multiple times during and outside of waves. I’ve gone from full health to just dead instantly

[@j.c.ulater]

Those things absolutely suck and u can never shoot them fast enough but also its random as shit sometimes and could also not affect u at all it just doesn't make sense

[@curtwalker11]

I think they just need an improved audio cue. Everything can't be safe.

[@nathancawley8759]

Spore mines need a LOT more limitations coded into their spawning logic. Having an endless stream of them dive bombing me while Im trying to defend a generator is a common occurrence. I even had a pack literally spawn on me as I was finishing an execution and 100-0 me on the spot. They spawn in far too great of numbers, and they spawn far too close to players. If they had to spawn more than 50m away from any player, only from an exterior map edge, have a global cooldown on their dive bomb (only one can dive bomb every 5 sec), and a maximum of 10 existing at a time or 20 in the whole mission theyd be a LOT less frustrating than now. They could also change their dive-bomb to parryable instead of unblockable. Spamming roll 23 times in a row because of back to back dive bombs is not fun, challenging, or engaging in any way, shape, or form. Any situation presented to the player for which there is no viable counter-play is mechanically bad. They seem noticeably worse since 5.1.

[@RaduAdrian-f7k]

It happened to me as Vanguard, used grappling on enemies and a bunch of spore mines exploded, they were after a corner and I could not see them. They also seem to appear out of nowhere on the INFERNO mission while defending generators rooms and at the same time, fighting ravaner, lictor, majoris and minoris. They some times appear out of nowhere, resulting in a full team wipe.

[@edwardslater2252]

I take it the around the corner experience was on The hive breast mission because that's happened to me twice as a vanguard.

[@grif16]

Spore mines have killed me in lethal more times than any other enemy. And ive seen it happen more than once where they have spawned when it says there is no enemies nearby.

[@bluray7358]

On the mission Inferno on ruthless diff, I was at the last point, holding out for the detonation. I start to go down one of the ramps toward the button and in the center, where enemies will spawn, I saw the whole little nook between the ramps just a haze of green. Ive never seen so many spore mines. This kinda thing has happened twice. I dont think they should get rid of them, but Id love to see smaller numbers and WAAAAAYYYYYYYY less damage. They should not be doing almost as much as a Majoris in a single hit. and they can 100 to 0 you all by themselves. Seen it happen before. Its not often, at least in my experience, but there is the occasional wonky BS. Me and my team just call out spores and focus them until they are taken care of.

[@raeishimura]

As an Assault player, spore mines are a nightmare. I have had them sneak up on us, and when i activate my jump pack, i just explode. They show up in such numbers that they are instant death. And this has happened on minimal while i was helping my nephew who had just started the game! It's ridiculous. There is definitely something wrong with spore mines.

[@mattmelton7389]

I was in the scrum happily beating up Tyranids and we missed a call-in. I look up and see ALL MINES streaming in from 2 different points. It was frightening.

[@emiliojuradogonzalez1408]

I usualy don't sorry about Spore mines but sometimes im shooting a ridículos amount of spore mines and more spores attack me from behind everything while still figthing regular enemies

[@servalkorion686]

When a shit ton just spawn out of no where behind you sucks. You can't see them & then you're dead

[@deathbyspeed2]

My only complaint about spores mines is how inconsistently the spawn director loves to throw them at you. It's almost always during a massive wave and if you don't catch them right away you better run for the hills. Lol imo if anything thing should be nerfed it's the little chaos snipers. Those little jerks will 100-0 you so freaking fast on lethal. It's rough.

[@Yeertski]

Very true.

[@brandonburgoyne8358]

Spore mines are misunderstood. They are designed to always give you a visual and sound prompt before doing their suicide bomber attack. Also your team mates can shoot spore mines that are around you and kill you. Melee attacks knock back spore mines and will not explode on contact.

[@servalkorion686]

they don't though they spawn out of no where & in the middle of a wave they're silent

[@bruterasta]

Delete everything that is hard so we always have easy time and get bored after two days. I got screwed by mines couple times, I raged quit like two times because of them, but I consider those as pretty rare, we should not use extreme situations as an argument for deleting enemy type. Massive mines spawns could be adjusted and I fear them more than extremis, but deleting? C'mon.

[@nathancawley8759]

Before 5.1 I would have agreed with you. Since the patch they have been problematic. You can outplay a carnifex, you cant outplay 20+ back-to-back dive bombs while taking chip damage, you just die.

[@eclipped]

I think spore mines would work just fine in the same numbers if it did minimal damage and instead clouded your vision, they already have that mechanic so it shouldn’t be hard to implement

[@moorebounce]

I wouldn't delete them. It probably wouldn't hurt to tone down the damage they cause. I haven't had any spawn right on me so far. I have ran around some corners that had some waiting though.

[@MrHurst-lb1rn]

About to finish off the Hive beast when spore mines AND strangler barbs finished us off

[@Yeertski]

@@MrHurst-lb1rn Actual nightmare scenario lol!

[@MrHurst-lb1rn]

@@Yeertski over an hour of grinding and less than a tenth of his second bar was left. I actually shut the game off. Felt like we got kicked right in the "gene-seeds".

[@warangelthelight2077]

Everyone complains only dios mio

[@Just_Some_Clown]

My issue with spore mines is the same issue I have with all enemies…the dodge sometimes doesn’t dodge ping. I get hit by the mines an hour after I’ve dodged them 😂

[@Jelloshotmod2]

I would say nerf the damage, but compensate it with giving you the toxic debuff. Although, idk if that would conflict with lore or anything like that.

[@Strelitzia98]

Depends on the run you get personally

[@Da-choppa]

I just wish people would shut up, if you can’t deal with them, you’re bad. End of story. They give you an entire marker for when they are gonna strike, you just aren’t aware enough, it’s so annoying to see people whine and whine and whine over minimal things, I personally find the challenge of keeping all things considered enthralling. If you can’t handle the challenge, don’t play the higher difficulties

[@warangelthelight2077]

@Da-choppa 🙏speak the emperor word!

[@nathancawley8759]

you do realize they will still spawn on your head, without warning, and 100-0 you on minimal too right? Also there is a difference between challenge and frustration. Parrying in 5.0 was a challenge. Dying to things beyond your control is frustrating.

[@Da-choppa]

@@nathancawley8759 haven’t had them spawn on my head once in 200 hours, have only died to them twice, I really don’t get what’s so difficult about them and parrying.

[@_Rebrec_]

Rarely got a problem and i play lethal. 1 time we wipe because of a corner and we rushed like morons but i never got spore mine right in da face, i play on PC. I always think it was a low level operation spawn because you dont see them very much on lethal

[@AE-nz5ul]

How about spore mines damage doesn't stack but the poisen status only increases duration.

[@weediestbroom]

Omg people will never be satisfied

[@warangelthelight2077]

Sad brother.

[@nathancawley8759]

We arent just sperg-screeching "bad game", we are pointing out specific problems, discussing how to deal with them, and suggesting alternate approaches or changes that we would like to ameliorate the isue. Some of the people here are also very active on the game's Discord which the devs read. They will transmit this information to that platform. This is how the game becomes more fun, and lives longer. Toxic positivity is just as bad as toxic negativity.

[@warangelthelight2077]

@@nathancawley8759 I do understand, pointed out issue but why they put it like a kid complaining to wash dishes. have 322 hours yet don't have this issues. Yes they sometimes do spawn randomly but me they spawn in outside map then to where we fight so it's easy to just shoot them. And if I miss them we'll then I get punish since you know am in the lethal difficulty where any mistakes could end that run. Neft GL. Viva El angel Sanguinias!

[@teamextreme334]

We have to stop complaining about how the difficulties are difficult.

[@warangelthelight2077]

Agree brother

[@mikuPS3]

True. I like the randomness of encounters even tho it makes gameplay straight up unfair sometimes.

[@MrHurst-lb1rn]

@@teamextreme334 I savor a challenge. I don't like the feeling of getting "ripped off" when the game decides surviving multiple Zoanthropes, a Carnifex and waves of Majoris isn't enough and a random mine or barbed strangler ends the game. There's a huge difference between "we lost, good game, though" and "that was strait up bullshit".

[@DaemonPrince]

Im pretty sure the post is about how the spawns are bullshit as they spawned spore mines right on top of him when they shouldnt do that.

[@nathancawley8759]

@@MrHurst-lb1rn I am 100% in agreement. Not a lot of people understand that there is a difference between challenge and frustration. When you could have played your way out, and failed, but saw where your mistakes were... thats challenging. When something instantly kills you or stagger-locks you to death... thats frustrating. Recently spore minds have gone all out frustration.

[@DarthJeffery-st5lk]

I either run into 200 per mission Or none at all I really hate it when I spontaneously combust due to mines suddenly after checking all my suroundedings and seeing nothing

[@j.c.ulater]

Yup... No balance nothing in between

[@burniejarvis9298]

They need to fix the spawn.

[@danekirkendall8131]

Those are annoying as shit. I have seen a lot of them recently, but if you are paying attention they are usually not THAT bad.

[@kuyakor2374]

Idk. I pay attention to randoms when I que for a quick game. I pay attention what their priorities are(minoris, range focus, etc.) I comm typical dangers, and when I comm hey mines, we’re alright and move along. Like I said idk, might just be a case of what other ppl are suffering where others can make up. I main bulwark/assault/sniper

[@rodrequizerhodman6630]

Spore mines definitely need to be nerfed.

[@Kermitpuffin_420]

There's a wierd glitch i have for tactical and sniper where i can't dodge and just roll instead is this happening to anyone else?

[@SIER.12X99]

I never have too much problem whit them when i saw them its my main focus tho

[@volcano3493]

I do Lethal runs all the time. There is no issue with spore mines. Just delete them as soon as you see them. The Volkite side arm is perfect for that.

[@MercTechBenny]

I’m willing to bet the vast majority of players complaining about spore mines, are the same ones not on comms and not responding when I call them out to the team as priority targets. I have seen them wipe my squad out because the players are either hyper focused on a different enemy or just not paying enough attention and then are SURPRIZED when they get blasted by six or seven spore mines! I laugh at their misery and cry when it’s me.

[@IDragov]

I absolutely stand with anyone that complains about a mechanic that is bugged or isn't working how the devs intended but complaining about how something is a little hard is silly to me.

[@lazytekafatafgoldcrestbirb9735]

I just want to say, as bad as this sounds I have to be honest, skill issue. Only times I ever have problems is when I'm not cautious, NOW I'm always cautious. Best to distance yourself from a horde or any wave and inspect before jumping in. If you die in the harder difficulties, sucks to suck, get better and learn to be more careful as much as possible

[@nathancawley8759]

If they didnt spawn on your head, or do 20+ divebombs in a row, Id agree. Most of the issues people have are because the mines' behavior has changed since 5.1. There were always mildly annoying and required you to pay attention. Now no matter of vigilance can save you when they do buggy shit that you cant counter.

[@steveazyb2595]

Yes.

[@storytimefarther4126]

They suck come out of the shadows and strip you to death 😅

[@Mantelar]

Jesus Christ, get good. They are nerfed to hell.

[@nathancawley8759]

somebody hasnt had them spawn on their head, 100-0 you with no way to counter or prevent it, and lose 40 minutes of progress as a result. Count your blessings, Im happy that everything goes right for some people.

[@notthething9531]

They are a weird inclusion to me because they exist on both extreme ends of the spectrum. Either you see them and have time to prematurely detonate them or manoeuvre rendering them useless, or you don’t and they proceed to delete you from the timeline. As a result the only time I even notice them as part of the game is when they have just dropped me. I just think they are cheap because they are either completely superfluous or extremely annoying.