Sport Jet Shootout: Freewing Avanti S V2 vs FMS Futura v3

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00:00 Intro
02:44 Avanti v2 Flight
06:40 Futura v3 Flight
10:50 Post Flight Report / Comparison
Plane: Freewing Avanti S V2 vs FMS Futura v3
Pilot: BD Tennessee
Field: KCRC
Weather: 91 / 7-10 mph wind
AS3X Gains
(High)
Roll - 24%
Pitch - 46%
Yaw - 94%
(Low)
Roll - 12%
Pitch - 23%
Yaw - 47%
Multiplier - 1X
Plane: Freewing Avanti S V2 80mm EDF Sport Jet - PNP
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Receiver: Spektrum AR8360T (Affiliate Link)
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Battery: SMC 6s 5300 LiHV - 75c
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FMS Futura V3 PNP w/ Reflex v2
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Spektrum AR620 (Affiliate Link)
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SMC HCL-HVP Flight 22.8V-4400mAh-75C:
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[@HAWAII-uh7sc]

Aloha from the big island of Hawaii. Thank you for all what you do on the videos. Setting up the NX8. That's some beautiful territory, beautiful airport.

[@BDTennessee]

Thanks from the big island! :) Appreciate the good words. Good view and place to fly 😎

[@HAWAII-uh7sc]

I go back-and-forth to Huntsville, Alabama that's where my brother lives. I go to Tennessee to get my lotto tickets, LOL.

[@ficosk8]

Thanks for the video! Best wishes from Bavaria

[@charlesrestivo870]

Thank you for a informative video

[@BDTennessee]

Thanks for feedback and watching Charles!

[@SteffenRC]

Dang it BD, I'm glad you did this video, but now I'm really wanting that Avanti.. but unfortunately I gotta wait a little.. Great flying buddy....

[@BDTennessee]

Thanks Steffen! When you get the funds scoop it up :)

[@GearUpRc]

Great comparison flights!! I chose the Futura but they are both great jets to fly!!

[@BDTennessee]

Thanks for the feedback! Agreed,both great jets!

[@hobbiespr]

Well I haven't had the Futura but this is the first time I am in love with an airplane, my Avanti S

[@AllanG1914]

As of 12/02/23, both the Futura and Avanti are back in stock. They were both sold out for about a month or so.

[@BDTennessee]

Good to hear! Thanks for sharing that info

[@WarbirdFan66]

I would still go with the AVANTI 8f you ask me... it has more battery options, and I don't need to modify the canopy to put in bigger once, there is no problem flying the AVANTI with a 5k+ packs if you want to, the landing speed is still quite slow, you have the reverse thrust now, and the sound is better too, so even if the prices were similar over here, and they are not, FMS models are way more expensive here, i would chose the AVANTI, it seems to have more plus points, feature wise compared to the FUTURA, even they both fly very nice...very nice vs video mate, blue skies

[@BDTennessee]

Good added info! I appreciate the feedback Warbird!

[@user-vv5of4wi7p]

I have a 5200 in my Futura without cut the Cabin

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Awesome vid as always! unrelated How do you dispose of your planes? I sell some but i need more space than anything else.

[@BDTennessee]

Thanks FGFRC! Sell them :) Many planes you got,might need a storage locker :D

[@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ib]

Awesome , would like to know from you your favorite Freewing jet in terms of stability, locked and docile, sound, capability of slow flying. Not worried about speed👌

[@BDTennessee]

Sport - Avanti Scale - T-45

[@AerialRCFun]

Avanti looks better IMO. No clear canopy and pilot makes Futura look cheaper though it does look a bit larger.

[@BDTennessee]

Good points.

[@dalezesiger9873]

Nice comparison. I enjoyed it. I have the V1 Avanti, and it is a great flying plane. I actually prefer it over my EF 90mm Viper. I have been waiting anxiously to get my hands on the V2. Any chance you know when they will be available again? Thanks - keep up the good work.

[@BDTennessee]

Not sure when they will come back in stock. Best way is to get on the email alert.

[@davidgerlach1132]

Always great videos, and very cool comparisons. You should know your videos help a greatly when deciding on an additional or new EDF. It's priceless to be able to demo all these beautiful aircraft. these videos You just put this up after agonizing r rationalizing over this beautiful FUTURA (I like the Green) or the Freewing F-22 Raptor 90mm? I currently have the Viper 90mm but the FUTURA is sweet and it's almost the perfect EDF sport jet in this class. The F-22 has a 9-blade fan and a fairly powerful 3672-1900Kv brushless inrunner motor and 130A ESC. I like the 90mm EDF, or better on a single 6S LiHV.

[@BDTennessee]

I like the green one too. Futura and F22 id say are in different class/style of planes. Futura more docile and use smaller battery. F-22 is more aggressive and aerbatic. Futura is like a sport pattern plane and F22 is a aerobatic 3d aggressiveness jet :D Single LiHV is good option. Same battery works in F-22 and Viper 90mm. Viper will have better thrust and power over the F-22.Viper has better stock electronics and lights.Better gear too. F-22 is lighter and aerobatic flight envelope. Easier to get parts and available EDF upgrades.

[@feelgooddany]

Woww 94% on the yaw !! Nice video .. keep them coming bro!! I ripped out the reflex on my futura.v3 and put a 637TA in her.. do you have gains for me?

[@BDTennessee]

Yes took almost all of gain. Keep in mind its a 1X multiplier. Thanks for compliment on video. I dont have any for Futura.

[@feelgooddany]

​@BDTennessee OK thank you for the quick reply. Do you have always higher as3x gains on the yaw with other edf jets?

[@BDTennessee]

@@feelgooddany yes. Yaw will be the highest with jets. Also,stock Spektrum default value is Roll 40 , Pitch 50, and Yaw 60...

[@feelgooddany]

@BDTennessee okok thx I am tuning my Futura.v.3 and first test results where roll28 pitch48 yaw45. Next day it was BFT4 and the futura was not good in controll. I thought something came loose haha I put your gains in it roll24 pitch 46 and was rocksolid in the air !!! Just my yaw was @ 50. I checked the yaw factorysettings from eflight viper90 (yaw36) and eflight habu70mm 6s (yaw45) today I gonna raise the yaw gains more. But it flies already 10times better as my gains. I can't believe 4clicks on roll make such a HUGE difference 😳 What means multipler 1×? Is it if your knob makes 1 click for the gains 🤔 If you turn on it?? Again thank you very much for my rocksolid bird!!!

[@BDTennessee]

@@feelgooddany great,glad to hear the info helped! Glad you got it dialed in and rock solid! Multiplier 1X is the option at the main AS3X gain screen where it has the box where you can change. Default value is 1x...

[@feelgooddany]

Hello BD Any reason for not using the 2x wing fence? And your yaw gain is so high ..cant believe it old firmware on the reciever or older reciever? I Cant go higher as 38 otherwise the ass shakes like a fish 😅😂 .. great channel and vids bro 👍 👌

[@BDTennessee]

Flown both ways and dont notice much difference.I prefer how it looks without. Do you have multiplier on 1X??

[@feelgooddany]

​@BDTennessee yes multi is on 1x

[@BDTennessee]

Futura has more rudder authority and needs to be turned down or rudder servo cant hold correction and moving...@@feelgooddany

[@feelgooddany]

@BDTennessee hey thanks 😊 gonna check it and make a adjustment

[@BDTennessee]

Copy! Let me know what you find out...@@feelgooddany

[@JoseOrtega-df3zj]

Where is your CG located? Do you fly a little nose heavy? Or tail Heavy?

[@andybean35]

I just bought the Freewing Avanti V2. I noticed on yours you don't have the wing outlets on yours. Do we have to glue them on and use them or can we not put them on?

[@BDTennessee]

I have flown both ways and dont feel or see much difference. I prefer how it looks without.

[@andybean35]

Thanks BD. Just one other question for you on the flap settings. I know when you deploy the flaps the plane will want to go upward. What settings did you use for down elevator mix. @@BDTennessee

[@BDTennessee]

@@andybean35if that happens , plane is too fast or flaps deploy too fast. Use elevator mix or flight mode to trim for speed. I have a flight review for Avanti V2 with settings in description.

[@onapproachrc5471]

Hey BD where can I go to set up reverse thrust on my Avanti S Red I fly with a NX8 ?

[@BDTennessee]

Plug Single Yellow wire lead into open channel. Settings > Channel Assign > Go to Channel lead plugged in > Assign Switch

[@txkflier]

How did you decide what the high AS3X gains needed to be?

[@BDTennessee]

I tune them while in the sky. Takes few flights,but i adjust each one independently. Once all dialed in ,apply gains and make sure no issue with speed or approaches...

[@txkflier]

@@BDTennesseeDo you actually get the elevator or rudder to oscillate and then back off until they don't? Basically, what tells you the gain is correct?

[@BDTennessee]

@@txkflier yes for basic settings like described in the manual. However i do testing in different scenarios,wind conditions and stability like final apporaches. You dont want them too high either,which can be the case when turning them down just enough not to oscillate...

[@txkflier]

@@BDTennesseeI just set mine to 30, 40, and 50 for RPY and fly 'em. I turned my E-flite 80mm F-16 up to 40, 50, and 60.

[@BDTennessee]

@@txkflier default or basic settings can work too. You got some room on Eflite F16 80mm. Stock BNF gains are Roll - 50,Pitch - 70,Yaw - 84...

[@user-gp4xd7xc5t]

Which is faster and more stable?

[@BDTennessee]

Avanti is faster. Stability is close. Without a Gyro on either,Avanti.