Sports Card Print Runs & Population Reports The SHOCKING Reality

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@stuke1976 2 ай бұрын

Great video Victor! I've watched the hobby evolve, from buying packs in 1967. I bought a collection of vintage cards as a kid about 1969 for $2.85, a shoebox full of 1950's and early 60's cards. We didn't have card shops or shows. I just kept buying packs and sorting them until about 1975. Took my cardboard apple box to college with me. Found a local coin shop that had 1 revolving case of vintage baseball from the 1950's. Then I found a flea market. None of my cards had any real value at that time. Just fun to go thru and look at the stats. Then in 1978, I sold my commons and duplicate stars to a guy advertising in the newspaper, $78. He showed my many beer flats with sets he started, and his 1952 Mickey Mantle. Something I didn't know existed. He showed me a price guide that said $300. We kept in touch and started a Club that met Sunday nights and traded cards, bought new cards as a group for a discount. I drove 400 miles to Minneapolis to my first show in 1983, met Warren Spahn, Bobby Richardson, had a great time. Spring of 1984 I promoted the first show in the Fargo/Moorhead area. Opened a card shop in Bismarck in 1986. Sold my share moved to Nebraska during the big boom. I've always had a show inventory, semi-permanent collection and a permanent collection. I don't' do as many shows anymore, maybe 4 a year, getting close to retirement from my job. A hobby is very important to a retired person, so I have that going for me. I've enjoyed every minute of it. Seen how chasing the dollar has burned a lot of people out of the hobby. Like Ed said, watch the games, enjoy the games. I didn't even know it was hot at the Chicago national until I saw videos that night. Too focused on the cards. Love the hunt.

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Love this Stukes! Thanks for sharing your journey and thoughts with us. The hobby may be loosing its way but there is a remnant of people still that are cut from the old thread. 👍🏽

@rashidhodo6194 2 ай бұрын

He’s completely right. Fck the money. I’m just a true real collector. Idk if the card worth 1 cent if it’s my favorite player I’m sleevin n top loading!!!!!!!!!

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support sir!

@WeskerGriff 2 ай бұрын

Victor this video was an absolute grand slam! Thank you for the kind words! A lot of the thoughts you echo in this video are fears I have voiced over the last several years. There is nothing wrong with being a speculator in the hobby, but when that culture and the overall flipping culture becomes the dominate force in the hobby over collectors it causes concern. Also concerning is the number of people not watching or enjoying the sport they collect. That is one hill I will die on. I can't fundamentally understand collecting a sport you don't watch or worse openly hate on which I have seen in some circles. Doesn't make a lick of sense. People often talk about trying to get the young kids into collecting or into collecting vintage cards. The way you do that is getting them to love the game and to get involved in watching the sport and becoming a fan. That will lead to wanting to learn more about the history of the game and the history of your favorite team. Being a fan of the sport you collect is IMHO an essential key for bringing in more collectors into the hobby.

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Beautifully said Ed! Poetic like, thank you for this powerful message 👍🏽

@enragedfurbie128 2 ай бұрын

As a new collector, I am navigating both waters!! I buy and flip here and there, while building my PC. I enjoy buying my favorite players the most tho! As a Vikings fan, it's pretty cheap 😂

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

🤣 that’s hilarious! Go get them Vikings 👍🏼 appreciate you sharing.

@DoubleDvintagebaseballcards 2 ай бұрын

Great Episode Victor and awesome seeing you again at the national. Huge congrats again with your book. Always fun to hear your thoughts on the hobby. As with everything in this world Boom and Busts are inevitable no matter what. Im very optimistic about the hobby especially after it survived and really ended up thriving after the recent bust after covid let up. I am on the thinking that we are still in the beginning stages of what took place when I was a kid 1986-1993 ish. I hope the boom continues for years to come but one day no matter what a bust will happen again. Thats the nature of life and anything that has to do with money. I am a collector who does love the concept of value and I collect in a way that I think has the greatest chance of being worth more in the future than the present. I also never buy cards just for that reason alone but for me I wont buy a card that I see a future that its worth less than today. Now ofcourse I will be wrong on many but I will love the card just the same as when i bought it regardless if they go up or down. We both go about collecting very differently and thats what makes talking about it so fun. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and your opinions. 👊🤙🤙

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Well said Dylan! I'm just trying to bring light into a subject that I believe we are divided. Let's merge both worlds, lets respect all genre's and aspects of collecting. Always appreciate your insights 👍

@PhilSims 2 ай бұрын

A pleasure to watch sir. Got burnt out on the national videos and this discussion was refreshing. Thank you!

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it. Appreciate you tuning in 👍

@scootscollectibles 2 ай бұрын

💯Victor. This was well done and agreed. I’m with you here. I’m a low end collector. The most I even spent on a card was 400. Sometimes I have a hard time buying 50-100 cards and don’t do it often. I like my base. For example I love my Gunnar Henderson flagship rookie just as much as one of his high end rookies which I would never buy. This hobby has gotten too complicated and it very tough to navigate at times. Im going to be picking up your book some time this week. Thanks for sharing.

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Well said Scott, thanks for sharing your thoughts! Appreciate your support with the book👍🏽

@Philly_Joe 2 ай бұрын

Great job Victor! I am more into the picture of the card vs the player on the card. Tha's just me and I'm happy on how and what I collect. Also, I have for years adhered to not spending more than $100 on a card - there are millions of cards to choose from - PS I hate black & white photo's on cards - doesn't matter who is on the card or how "valuable" they are. Have a great one!!!

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

This is awesome, Joe! Thanks for sharing your strategy and passion with us 👍

@kennethsalter9998 2 ай бұрын

These days you need to make money and have a PC because many cards one may want are often unaffordable for many !!! I separate the 2 by flipping and selling up so I can afford more valued PC Cards !!! I truly appreciate just rarer cards!! Low pop !!! But I often go 2 shows and get standard rookies that are graded 9-10 .....It has became a chest game for many !!!I I still spend most my time in 2 and 5 dollar boxes !!! Its so true what you say about nastalgia !!! It keeps me motivated !!! I really appreciate your views my friend !!! Thank you always!!

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it Ken. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I love your chess metaphor very well said.

@alwayselite748 Ай бұрын

as a new and young collector i’m not even bothering trying to go for the money because you have to spend a lot in the first place and i’m just trying to find my favorite players. it’s very hard for me to support this hobby because my local trading card shop has been exposed for resealing cards. i just bought like 5 different jimmy butler cards recently though since he’s my favorite player and his “special” cards or whatever are pretty affordable. i don’t think i’ll ever be able to get my fav rookies wemby or caitlin clark cards easy though😂

@true_rcs Ай бұрын

Yeah, be careful out there! Sounds like you have a good handle on things. You can always consider base rookie cards of Wemby and Clark. They are affordable especially if there not graded. Thanks for sharing your thoughts I appreciate you tuning in 👍

@wheeler2816 2 ай бұрын

Man great video. In 2001 i was on outside the lines on espn when they started doing event worn. What a time. They came out and we did a live 1/2hr show with jeremy schapp.

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for sharing your experience with us👍🏼

@johnrodriguez6480 2 ай бұрын

Great video. I think you hit the nail on the head with the pop reports. Print runs don’t bother me at all when it comes to rookie cards but I do think there’s a valid argument to be made in favor of lower print runs on other cards.However I never understood the whole pop report thing. If I have an Upper Deck Griffey RC PSA 9 or a Wemby Prizm PSA 10 why do I care how many times this card has been sent in to be graded ? 🤷🏽‍♂️ I just care about the grade

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and insights John! Well said 👍

@daktmacfan 2 ай бұрын

Great video BTW. I was so nervous in Feb 2020 seeing peeps submit stacks upon stacks of Yordan & Gavin Lux base Topps RCs and then the same happened for Wander RCs. I knew there was going to be way more supply of graded copies than demand in the end. It ended up being great for collectors. I thought that the same may be happening for Wemby Prizm RCs, but perhaps he is going to be a generational type player? It is certainly fun to watch it all play out having no skin in the game. Victor, do you get the same revenue from the Kindle & print versions? I'm thinking about the Kindle version, but I will purchase the physical one if it nets you more profit.

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Appreciate you tuning in and sharing your thoughts. As far as the book goes either way is fine. What would help me most is to get the version of your choice and leaving an honest review on Amazon.

@brushben22 2 ай бұрын

Incredible and interesting!! The hobby needs a guy like you making content, keep it up 👍🏼

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

@ACollectorsDream 2 ай бұрын

Awesome video, always great hearing your thoughts

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it Orlando! 👍

@CleanCheapShots 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Woohoo! Thank you sir!

@JeffsCardJourney 2 ай бұрын

Well done and well said. The hobby is very expensive right now and prices seem to be on the rise again. However, it doesn't seem to be turning people away. 1,000s of people packed the ix center with millions of dollars flowing.

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Jeff! You are correct but the concern is more towards the future not so much current day. I appreciate you tuning in and sharing your thoughts 👍🏼

@vintagecollector5340 2 ай бұрын

The events of today will likely continue being the future events of the hobby tomorrow. I don't see that going away. Too much big money is involved.

@roderickalbus5818 2 ай бұрын

Hey Victor it’s awesome to watch your videos much appreciate all of your content! As a big Penny Hardaway fan in the 90/s it has lots of sentimental value to me… Not sure if Penny is a part of your PC but it would be great if you could do a video on real rookie cards of Penny Hardaway!

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

I appreciate the support! I will consider Penny for a future video. Thanks for tuning in👍

@b1gscott35 2 ай бұрын

Well said. You put that way better than ever could.

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Thanks brother Scott! I'm proud because you left a comment on my video - woohoo!

@SplendidSports 2 ай бұрын

Masterful video Victor! And I am ordering my copy of the book tonight on Amazon 👊

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

@johnrodriguez6480 2 ай бұрын

Great content Victor. Love your insight. You’re my “go to” for info on rookie cards and I’d like to pick your brain on a card I picked up. I recently purchased a TOPPS NOW 2016 #353 Aaron Judge PSA 10 which marks him hitting a home run in his first career at-bat. When I do research on what his Topps Now rookie card is the one that keeps popping up is the 2017 #87 card. This is the first card with the RC shield on it and is in what is his rookie year. The 2016 TOPPS NOW card I have has the “Call Up” moniker on it. However, the card I have to me matches the prerequisites to be his true rookie card. -1st card available in a set that’s available to the masses -he’s in his pro uniform -he’s played a professional game What are your thoughts?

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Great question John. The 2016 Call-Up features him as a late season September call up perhaps. However, according to the rules set by the PA this is to late in the season to create a true RC. Cut-off date is typically mid-season. THis is why topps will leave certain players till the following year. I do however, consider the 2017 Topps Now #87 a TRC. I appreciate your support if you need further info please feel free to email me.👍

@johnrodriguez6480 2 ай бұрын

@@true_rcs ah ok. Makes sense. Thank you for clarifying.

@1stBowman 2 ай бұрын

Excellent video. Some really interesting takes. Good stuff.

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed it!

@mikeorz111 2 ай бұрын

Great video Victor!

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it Mike! 👍🏽

@1stBowman 2 ай бұрын

I need to weigh in/vent. The gambling side is problematic. If I'm honest it's what drew me back in. However, the bang for your buck is becoming so atrocious that I'm stepping back out. I doubt I'll ever fully leave but I'm really getting sick of being ripped off opening wax. It's just too expensive. A great box now compared to 6 years ago is one where you recoup 70% of the value. Mostly you lose 80-90% of your money and that hurts when you are spending $200 here $500 there. Just like in 2020 when I pivoted to hockey I'm going back to where it started in late 2017 with local sports which still deliver value. There are no life changing cards available but the floor is much higher than the American sports. That might be the best model. Get rid of the manufactured scarcity like non auto 1/1's and all those crazy non auto parallels which are a base card with a little stamp on it designed to trick the mind into believing it's scarce, when it's really the same thing. Whoever invented serial numbered cards was a genius. It's a mind trick. Most non-hobby people with a functioning brain would ridicule the idea that a 1/1 is somehow special and worthy of 30X because the manufacturer put a stamp on the card - a card with the exact same image as the base version. I'm on a roll, Victor. I believe that the ultra modern section, which perhaps makes up the bulk of the sales volume in the hobby, is being driven primarily by breaking addicts, flippers, and a few people with deep pockets who can afford to rip wax and lose. That model is not sustainable imo and there has to be a tipping point. Maybe history will repeat itself ( I learnt something with that take of yours) where the value is no longer there, there are too many money men ( too many bosses and not enough workers is the polite phrase), and 99% of cards continue to slowly drop in value - especially in real dollar terms. I'm not sure how you can fix it. I guess it just fixes itself like it did in the mid 2000's until 2017. Collectors/wax openers leave, then the flippers/money men leave, wax sits, eventually print runs come down, value returns and the cycle recommences. P.S. If you read all that I'll buy you a beverage one day.😀

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

I read every word! Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. You have great takes and I can sense your passion for the hobby. 😢

@1stBowman 2 ай бұрын

@@true_rcs Cheers Victor. That's very kind of you. I'll transfer some bar credit at the next National.

@vintagecollector5340 2 ай бұрын

Speculation has always been a part of the hobby. The only main difference between now and then is that its more socially acceptable, its cool, and alot more money is flowing into the hobby than ever before. Its not all bad, because its helped boost the hobby to a more respectful and lucrative level. I'll agree that the love of the game definitely helps tie sentimental value to the hobby, though. However, "pop reports" is based off strictly artificial scarcity. Theres millions more of those 1989 UD Ken Griffey Jr rookie cards in ungraded condition and still plenty of unopened product of 1989 UD, as well. Its very possible that supply will eventually outweigh demand. Its so bad now that people are paying premium prices for damaged Griffey UD rookies. It's gotten way out of hand. People are idiots and dont know how to shop for true scarcity. I mean, compare that overproduced rookie to an original rookie photo or photo slide of Ken Griffey Jr, and you'll see which is most rare. Photo slides were actually taken at the games and most of those are believed to be 1/1. Scarcity does matter....if you care anything about owning very desirable and valuable collectibles.

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, well said. Also, thanks for tuning in! 👍🏽

@Hodges1455 2 ай бұрын

Gave a video like. Great video, Victor!

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Much appreciated Hodges!

@josephpolanski6322 2 ай бұрын

Great job Victor

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Thank you! 👍🏽

@1stBowman 2 ай бұрын

Here's another thought. Perhaps a bad one. I don't know. I think the Griffey card is only a good card for a collector who has some emotional attachment to the card and would like their purchase to retain value. For a non-collector - someone just in it for the money - the card is a bad buy, just like Brady is a bad buy. I genuinely believe that cards are not genuine investments and those cards will not outpace inflation if bought today. You have to have a collector mindset to park money into those types of cards. If you do not have a collector's bone in your body you are better off chancing your hand at the hot potato game that is ultra modern - which is what seems to be happening currently. The serious money goes into real estate and stocks.

@true_rcs 2 ай бұрын

Do you have an outlet to write hobby articles? I know Hobby News Daily is always looking for writers. I can point you in the right direction if you’re interested.