Sports Photography on a Budget | Budget Sports Photography

[@TacoTeaser]

Great video. Good advice. With over fifty years of photography experience I would say that for beginners; first, utilize the equipment you can afford. Second, BE THERE! Know when to press the trigger. Many of my best photos when taken at the right time with the worst equipment.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Some of the best journalistic photos I’ve taken in my career were taken with cameras that are now considered ancient and woefully obsolete.

[@danbrovont1148]

Spot on Jack, it takes time to acquire the tools in your toolbox. I have been filling my toolbox for over 20 years, my 600 f/4 lens is early 2000 vintage and still works great. So don't get discouraged if you can't have all your equipment right away. The important thing is to keep shooting, it is the only way you will get better images.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Good point!

[@SteveChick02]

Great video. This is exactly how i started. I have worked on upgrading lenses first, I started with kit lenses and now I have a 70-200mm f2.8 and a 100-300mm f4. Next up will be trading my camera body, possibly for a D4s or D5.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Thanks for watching!

[@randybocksnick3750]

JACK-- I started shooting High school sorts in 1964 and still shooting today! I'm 76 yrs old and have traveled the state of Montana many times over and have shot Nikon for 49 of those years! Randy Bocksnick(Montana)

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

You're a man after my own heart! I'm going to keep doing this until I can't lift that 400/2.8 anymore!

[@sportsnewst2Day]

We are from the same generation, I agree with your advice. Start out with the basics and build the gear over time.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Yep!

[@markglenday7291]

Hi Jack all of my gear is second hand and I own the Nikon trinity plus I have the Sigma 120-300mm f2.8 sports love your videos thank you

[@Phillies_fuZz]

Love the video man. Beginner here! On a bit of a budget. Been looking at the Sony ev z10 for sports video. Heard some things that although it’s a vlog camera, it’s still good for sports depending on the lens. Want to hear your opinion if you’re familiar with it!! Thanks!!!

[@livspicy3588]

Do you think a canon EOS REBEL T7 DSLR Camera | 2 lens kit with EF18- 55mm + EF 75-300mm Lens, black would be a good beginner camera for soccer photography?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

@@livspicy3588 Yes, that will get you started for daylight photos with the longer lens.

[@livspicy3588]

@@JackBeasleyMedia ok thank you so much! This video was very helpful.

[@alexcortez8909]

I'm still using a Nikon D3S right now alongside my Z8. It has over 200,000 actuations. I'm waiting for it to die and it won't! 😂

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

My D5 had about 600,000 when I sold it

[@stevepuddlejumperpilot6062]

Solid, solid advice. I just recently replaced my D750 with a refurb D780 from Nikon refurb (the D780 was 10% off the regular refurb price, which saved me $500 from the regular retail price. It had 1 click on the shutter. Not kidding and it looked brand new). I wanted better high ISO and hoping for better auto white balance, but I have to say, the D750 is no slouch in low light work. I shoot mostly high school football, and dollar for dollar, the D750 is a great performer. I've had lots of cameras thru the years, and the D750 is EASILY my all time favorite. Only real downer is that the buffer isn't all that big. And I agree on the len choice, the 70-200 is easily my favorite lens, since it's soooooo versatile. I find I always pick that lens up first, since it's not very heavy and gives me good results. Currently have a Tamron 70-200mm G2 f/2.8 and it's a GREAT performer, with the built in stabilization modes, it's a tough lens to beat. Love that lens. Unsung hero is a Tokina 300mm f/2.8, which I also have. It is wicked sharp and CHEAP!!! And, last but not least, I recently picked up a Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 for a good price off a guy. He said it was just too heavy and he got sick of lugging it around. It's gonna be my new Friday night football lens, so, we'll see if I "hate" it after the game of carrying it around. :) But my first impressions are that it IS heavy!!!! As always, love your videos and thank u for uploading them!!

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Thank you, I appreciate all the great comments!

[@RamonFlores-so8oh]

Sweet video I do a lot of my kids sports with a d3500 right now and I’m getting the feeling I need to up my game a bit I been looking at the tamron 70-200 2.8 Would this be a good match for my d3500?

[@1mkrlife]

It sounds like a lot of great information, but I’m still at photography 101 as I learn the jargon. I’ve started taking more photos of my kids sports such as : Soccer,Rugby, Football & Volleyball with what I had laying around which is a LUMIX DMCZS50. I feel like the zoom is pretty good & still shots are okay, but speed is a no go. I would love to take better photos and more speed/action shots. Where do I even begin? Expertise,advise & suggestions welcome. Maybe my current cameras body is good, but need a new lense 🤷🏻‍♀️ Update- I went to Best Buy and asked a lot of questions and have learned more and more. Thoughts on the Sony a6400?

[@thesamedambub9072]

I’m lucky I’m off on Friday’s. And in Texas Friday night lights 🏈 is huge. I want to start taking game shots 📸 at local games.

[@Magiclenses]

Thanks for the great information But please let me know to use it at night sports which lense you recommend? I have 70-200 2.8 But it is great only for the daylight sports

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

No, it's perfect for night sports - as long as the action is relatively close. For indoor sports, it's hard to beat.

[@michaelwood9032]

Hey Jack...picking up photography again after a 15+ year layoff. Love the videos, and am working my way through them. This year I'm the yearbook advisor for the high school I teach at, and I had a question about shooting night football, as it gets dark up here in WA a little earlier. I'm using a D500, with a Tamron 70-200 f2.8....can I use a 1.4x converter to get more reach, or would the f4 just not be enough light?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

High school fields are tough. Some are OK, others are terrible. I’m guessing if you go to f4 you’re going to be down around 1/500 - which I wouldn’t go below. Brightest area of the field are the sidelines up to about the 20 yard line. Darkest are the end zones.

[@trishamiles5769]

Great video but I was wondering if you have any videos on external flash. I do all my photography at night at high school football games and not really sure if it will help or not. I see you have some in your equipment. Just wondering if you use them?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Everyone sports photog I know stopped using flash for night field sports years ago. More recent cameras and noise reduction software have made shooting without flash possible. I see the occasional flash setup for indoor sports like wrestling or basketball, but that's about it. Why do you feel you need it?

[@trishamiles5769]

@@JackBeasleyMedia Thank you for the response. I have a pretty good lens and camera body set up and use good editing software. Thank you for the information as I’m still new to photography.

[@rickkuhl3461]

I teach HS Yearbook, looking to get a longer lens for outdoors. I have a Nikon 70-200 2.8, a new lens in the 400 mm gets pretty expensive, how do you know what lens to buy on ebay? Any suggestions?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

The problem is that you’re trying to shoot sports in dark gyms and on dark fields. I see tons of HS yearbook kids on the sidelines with their school kit lenses and I wonder what kind of shots they’re getting. For me, I always buy used when possible, generally a generation or two old. You don’t want to get something that no longer is serviced by the manufacturer. Also, avoid “grey market”, meaning anything shipping from outside the continental USA.

[@laughingpapaya85]

I will be taking photos for a basketball league this May and planning to buy second-hand 5d ii or 6d, which is better, or any other cameras you can suggest around that budget $500

[@markguerin6071]

Just want to say I really appreciate your advice and channel. I am starting out in sports photography with my kids who play volleyball and run track. Thank you for the great content. Cheers from Michigan.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Thank you!

[@moussaba8422]

Great video jack. I just wanna start out and thinking of buying the Nikon D5300 . What's your take on this Thanks in advance

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

It's certainly a good starter camera, but you might struggle in low light situations. It'll likely be pretty noisy.

[@kuna1_415]

Very informative! Thank you for sharing your expertise. I studied photography many years before the digital era. Sadly I drifted from my creative path....but now I'm back! Planning to buy a great starter camera for sports photography. The options are overwhelming for sure!

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Me too! After doing photojournalism for eight years, I took a 23-year break when I joined the Army. I started back up again in 2018 and had to learn digital.

[@thaitran4527]

buying used is a great way to get started, but there are pitfall with buying used. Recently purchased a 600 f4 that ended up arriving fill with fungus. Being able to inspect/test used equipment is important as you can end up with a dud.

[@thesamedambub9072]

So I just purchased my first camera , I got the Sony a6000 with the Sony 55-210mm lense. Any tips?

[@GoldieAlek]

Thank you for the advice and the video! One question… the lenses. 70-200mm F2.8… canon comes with image stabilizer. I don’t think others do… is that an option that is a “must have”? Or am I wrong and all of them come with the stabilizers? Thanks!

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Most modern lenses have internal stabilization, but not all. However, at the shutter speeds we’re normally using for sports - 1/1000 and above - it’s not really necessary.

[@xsa_ge]

Hey! Would you ever suggest the Canon EOS 80D, I personally love it and I've used it for Yearbook/Journalism with some sports photography but I'm looking to get a personal one, since I'm already comfortable with it and know how it works I wanted to get the 80D.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

I think it's fine as a starting camera, especially since you are used to it. But, it's an older model and if you are looking for an upgrade and to go mirrorless, you might want to consider a Canon R7 or even R6.

[@fefetron]

good starting point. It is funny to me how the "budget" is pretty different from, I assume, USA to any latin america country.

[@casshoyt1859]

I'm trying to take indoor sports photographs with little light. I have an older D50 that I love but all my pictures come out blurry. I would love some suggestions on where to start. I will look for a lens that you recommended. Should I be shooting in sport mode? Or Auto? I don't believe the shutter speed is high enough. I assume I can adjust that on my camera? I took a photography class years ago but it's been a long time.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Manual - shutter 1/500 minimum, but 1/640 or 1/800 is better. 1/1000 is perfect. Aperture wide open. ISO set on Auto.

[@d.adcock2282]

another great video. For daytime sports love my Nikon D300, decent frame rate and autofocus pared with the Nikon 200-500f5.6. For low light and indoor prefer Nikon D500 with 70-200 f2.8. Also have used the Canon 7DMrk ii. Like that pared with the Canon 100-400.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Good stuff!

[@aliciaaguilar3850]

My son wants to do sports photography and I got him a Nikon D500 and the quality of the photos don't see to be good should I get something else?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

The D500 is a good sports camera, especially in daylight. It could be a lot of factors at play here - lens he’s using, how he’s setup the camera, his technique, etc.

[@craiganthonyphotography]

I have a 7d with a sigma 70-200 2.8 os looking to upgrade to 7D mkii or 1DX.

[@rajanturner1427]

I just recently started getting into photography, seriously its only been almost a month as I'm writing this comment. I have a Rebel T100 3000D I believe, would that be a good body to use? Also where can I check to see what lenses able to be used with that?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

The Rebel cameras are entry level and a good place to start learning photography in general. For sports, however, it’s not optimal. I recommend you stick with daylight sports as the Rebel will perform poorly in low light situations. It’s sensor isn’t optimized for low light situations. As for lens compatibility, I would look on the Canon website.

[@brittanysolomon5243]

Is the Nikon z5 a decent camera for sports? My son & daughter play baseball/softball and my son plays basketball. I want to be able to get good video and photo footage of both.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

If you're just starting out in sports photography, I'd say the Z5 is a pretty decent starting point. It can take sports photos if you put it in AF-C, use the highest frame rate level (4.5 frames per second), and use Dynamic Area autofocus. It will also do video in Full HD (1080p) up to 60 frames per second.

[@jennchavez9183]

I have the 90D and just picked up the 70-200mm f2.8 I’ve been doing hs football as a mom/hobbyist for a few years now. Any suggestions for a body upgrade? I know I want full frame

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Since you're a Canon shooter, I'll point you in that direction. If your focus is sports, and you don't want to spend a small fortune, I recommend a used Canon 1DX Mark 1 for around $600 US on ebay. That camera was specifically designed for sports and journalism. It's successor, the 1DX Mark 2 goes for about $1200.

[@ActualCounterfactual]

Whats your opinion on extenders, I have never owned one, or tried them (I use Pro Level glass and I am thinking of extender for my 70-200 2.8 instead of paying loads to get the next level glass).... looking to use it on a 1DX body, whats your take on this?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

There is a bit of a loss in sharpness, especially with the 2x or higher teleconverters. Personally, I only use 1.4x and then on pro quality lenses.

[@6NNG]

Is the Nikon D810 a good choice for beginners in sports photography?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

I haven’t used a D810, but I have used it’s successor, the D850. Yes, it’s fine as a sports camera. It is getting a bit long in the tooth and I don’t know how much longer Nikon will repair them. You might want to check that before you buy.

[@axl6670]

Not on a budget I’m planning to buy the a7iv for sports but mainly for landscape photography but I need a lense for the sports part any recommendations?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

The 70-200/2.8 is my work horse.

[@williamfarley8434]

Great video! Yes, my first 35mm camera was the Pentex K-1000 lol

[@CandaceWilliamsVideo]

I got a Nikon d5100 and I have the vr 55-200mm and I have to upgrade my lowest f stop is 4.5 i absolutely agree with the tips in this video wish I found this before getting my camera always great video

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Thanks!

[@percymoore279]

Hey my friend, have you tried shooting football with a Z50? I was thinking of purchasing one because as far as mirrorless cameras that's in my budget right now

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

I tried it briefly with a Z50 I had bought to shoot video. It did better during daylight, lots of noise at night.

[@percymoore279]

@@JackBeasleyMedia I've been hearing good talk about the z6 mark 3. Trying to see what the price will be on it when it comes out. I also been looking at the z6 and z6 2. I tried the z6. I kinda like it. Haven't tried the 6 2 yet though.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

The Z6ii is definitely better than the Z50 for sports.

[@vadimkosyakov1038]

I have D700 and 80-200 2.8 mkII + Tamron 100-400 5.6. That are my started set)))

[@jjmoyles]

You got the 400f2.8 at last then Jack, I've just got a D6 to go along with my D5 and my 300f2.8 is still going strong, excellent flog Jack.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Yes, I traded in the old 300/2.8 plus some other lenses I hardly used for it. I’m excited to put it to work this coming football season. Thanks for watching!

[@angelogarciajr5356]

Hi Jack....I use my ef 100-400 on my R6 with adapter. I just saw this new Sigma 150-600mm Sports Tele Zoom. I am very interested in this for day sports and birds for a great price. Can you comment on this? I am about to get the rf 100-500 but this is making me reconsider having the longer reach with the Sigma for almost half the price.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Hey Angelo, I haven’t personally used that lens, but it’s got good reviews.

[@angelogarciajr5356]

@@JackBeasleyMedia Evidently it is not out yet and I did not look close enough....no mount for Canon. Thx Man that looked so good. I just read for mirrorless cameras and assumed Canon. Dang it :) I believe this new sports lens was just announced today but only for Sony and Leica L mounts

[@boostedmaniac]

The Pentax k1000! I remember those in my photography class. The best budget camera.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

My K1000 is sitting on a shelf in my office.

[@boostedmaniac]

@@JackBeasleyMedia yeah a few of my classmates got one. I started out with a hand me down Canon AE-1 program.

[@feridbathory4000]

Is the mirrorless Nikon Z50 “good” enough for sports? It’s around my budget. I photograph horses, other animals and horse sports (horse jumping etc). I’m Looking to upgrade from my very old Nikon D70s. Or would the Nikon d7500 suit better?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Is it good enough? It's probably a decent start. I had a Z50, but used it almost exclusively for video. I did try it out once during a game and I thought it was OK. Frame rate was a little slow, but not a big problem. I think the real question is, do you want to stick with DSLR and f-mount, or move on to mirrorless and z-mount? The world is moving to mirrorless and if you're near the start of your sports photography journey, you probably want to go that direction before you get too invested in DSLR technology.

[@feridbathory4000]

@@JackBeasleyMedia I don't have many lenses for my Nikon d70s, so that wouldn't be a reason to stay with DSLR's for me. I'm mainly concerned that the Z50 might not be as fast as a DSLR? Also because of the viewfinder in mirrorless camera's. Which is obviously different than looking through the lens with a DSLR. I read somewhere the mirrorless viewfinder is slower? If the Z50 is going to be fast enough to take decent shots of horses in action outside in daylight, that would probably be the best move then I guess? And because you have had the Z50, do you have any idea if the battery life of the Z50 is indeed as bad as I hear people say? In comparison to a DSLR. Sorry, English is not my native language, but I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

No, it won't be as fast and you'll get blackout in the viewfinder between frames. It's not an ideal sports camera. If your budget is around $1000, I suggest you save some more and try to get something around $1600 on the used market. A used D500 ($1600 renewed) or D750 ($1400 renewed on amazon) are good options for DSLRs. If you want to go the mirrorless route, you'd be looking at a Z6ii ($1700 used), at least for sports.

[@feridbathory4000]

@@JackBeasleyMedia Okay, thanks, that was actually very helpful. So that means the Nikon d7500 wouldn't be good enough either I suppose, that's a bummer. I will see if I can save up for these camera's and new lenses used in the Netherlands then..

[@Chellariat]

would you say the Nikon D610 is a good choice? i'm looking for someone that works for a sports photo but also for a standard everyday camera. and none reviews i've seen really mention the D610's sports capabilities

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

The D610 is an entry-level camera, so it's autofocus and drive speeds, along with its low-light capabilities are not as good as the higher end cameras. Having said that, if this is your first foray into sports photography, it's still a good starting point. You'll likely find, however, that your photos will appear "noisy" inside dark gyms and outside at night. Another thing to consider is going mirrorless instead, since the industry is headed that direction. A used Nikon Z6ii might be a better way to go.

[@taqz7529]

Hi Jack! I had a question, what is your opinion on a Canon 5D Mk III, 70-200 2.8, and 50 prime 1.8 for a kit starting my college sports photographer job

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

That sounds like a great starting set up, but you might want to consider a wide angle lens rather than that 50mm. Or, add a moderate wide angle (28mm) to round out your kit. There will be times when you'll wish you had something wider.

[@mydailyboredlife5883]

Do you recommend cannon 70d with sigma 150-600 mm contemporary lenses for sports photography ?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

It’s difficult for me to say as I haven’t personally used either for sports photography. However the zoom range on that lens is very good for sports photography. However, because it’s a relatively slow lens as far as maximum aperture, it’s really only good for daylight games.

[@chadwickmelder]

Great video! Thank you! Just a constructive feedback, the audio is not optimal. Perhaps some sound absorbers should be in the room you are using.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Yes, I’ve made some audio improvements since then.

[@dotMY12]

great advice for starter in this field

[@Cameron-bp5dl]

Hello, quick question. Canon EOS 4000D, 75-300mm 5.6 lens, possible?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Possible, yes, for daylight games. You’ll definitely struggle in lowlight situations, though.

[@clausgiloi6036]

New subscriber! I'm interested in getting back to photographing equestrian sports. My most recent camera was unfortunately stolen in a burglary, but also not ideal for the type of shots I would like to get. For myself, and probably many others, social media resolution is really adequate, but I want the tight focus depth that a 2.8 lens provides. What would you suggest for a sub-FX setup that sacrifices ultimate resolution for price and size, but still provides that 2.8 depth of focus? I've always been a Nikon guy, but am open to alternatives.

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Well, you're going to have to get a f2.8 lens either way. I've never shot equestrian (other than a rodeo), so I'm not sure how long a lens you need - although 70-200/2.8 would be a good start. As far as camera bodies, if you want to stick with DX, then I suggest the D500.

[@clausgiloi6036]

@@JackBeasleyMedia I've been assuming that a 2.8 lens with only coverage for DX would be both physically smaller and less expensive that a full coverage lens. I'm not even sure that it exists, have not been able to find one. 70-200mm would probably be perfect.

[@roddies4evr518]

Hi. I have D3300. Doing kayak racing. Between wind and waves. I cant get a great focus shot. Any recommendations

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

You didn't say what lens you are using. That might be part of the problem. Also, this video details some techniques to get sharp action photos - kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6TLmYOpdralh9k

[@RobSambles]

Good video Jack - great advice 💯

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Appreciate it!

[@najibbrot3600]

can a D7200 be any good for sports and casual photography?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

It's fine to start with. You can upgrade later on as you gain experience. You'll have greater success in daylight conditions with that camera. It will struggle under poor lighting conditions.

[@najibbrot3600]

great thanx, you suggested an upgrade, what would be the next budget camera to upgrade to for shooting soccer games..thanx@@JackBeasleyMedia

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

@@najibbrot3600 The next step up might be a used full-frame camera like the Z6ii. The fx mount lenses will still work on it. I recommend you convert to fx lenses over dx at that point. You could also stay with dx lenses and get the D500, again used. But, mirrorless is the wave of the future, so you might want to jump over now.

[@matttitus2116]

k1000 still used to teach full manual today, it probably always will be

[@mikehinh]

Great video. Thank you

[@thepanel2935]

*_On a budget?_* Then don't buy the _current_ version of long lenses and bodies. You can get a *_Canon 1D Mark IV_* camera for $1000, and you can get a *_Canon EF 400mm f/2.8 L_* (non-IS) for $1400. The Canon 1D Mark IV will give you ten frames a second and an 18.1mp Raw file, which is only 2mp smaller than the Canon 1Dx, the 1Dx Mark II and the 1Dx Mark III, all of which only give you a 20.2mp Raw files. Older models can be a bargain.

[@clydesmith2676]

Great advice!

[@kamijenkins4202]

Love your videos and information.

[@jarlathmcnee3833]

Are there any sites you would recommend for older models

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Usedphotopro.com, B&H, or MPB.com

[@jarlathmcnee3833]

@@JackBeasleyMedia thank you

[@cowetascore8476]

I shoot with a 7D Mark II cause I still can't afford a 1DX and it works out great with a 2.8 70-200.

[@kelvinmudenda11]

I would love buy ur 70-200 lens

[@nicholascook4256]

do you think I’ll be ok with gx85?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

I think it may be OK to start and to learn basic photography, but you're going to want to move up to something more suitable, sooner rather than later.

[@Bushcraft242]

As a photographer i use to use pentax film 🎞️ now digital

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

My first real camera was a Pentax K1000 in the early 1980s.

[@blinkinglightproductions4767]

you are amazing thank you so much!

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Thank you!

[@hortonsstuff6948]

Sports lens for hockey, football, Lacross,swimming, and track lol ours kids play everything and our d3500 came with a 18-55, and 70-300 there are ok for still shots not fast enough for hockey lol and not close enough for football

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

You’re probably fine for outdoor, daylight sports but you’ll struggle indoors or at night.

[@lonelypigeon7562]

I have a friend who's a photo editor for our local daily paper. He told me that in order to get REAL GREAT pictures, instead of upgrading your body, buy good "glass"....2.8 etc. I currently still shoot with my D700 and had a job to cover an air show. I had one image that I took of the Blue Angels flyby......let me tell you, the glass was ok but the image was super sharp! and after I viewed my specs on that image on my computer, that was taken with my D700! Body may be older....but she still puts out!

[@i_like_the_number_7]

I had that exact same camera and lost it on a jungle trail in Cambodia :_(

[@fjphoto23]

Excellent!

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

Many thanks!

[@carriezeldenrust119]

Where do you buy your used lenses? FB marketplace? Camera store? Ebay? Amazon?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

B&H, usedphotopro.com, Amazon, eBay, mpb. Whatever you do, make sure it’s a USA model.

[@krustysurfer]

K1000 me too 😊

[@d.adcock2282]

Have you or anyone used the Sigma 120-300 f2.8?

[@JackBeasleyMedia]

I haven't, but I've heard you need to get the "sport" model