Did Fanatics Fest Forever Change the Hobby?

[@SportsCardInvestor]

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[@CryptoNerd-l3u]

Anyone who actually attended the event with a VIP pass will tell you it was a huge waste of money. The benefits didn't justify the price hike due to the overwhelming number of people with "VIP" passes. Additionally, the organization of autographs and photos was a complete disaster. Many attendees were left disappointed after spending half a day in line only to have their opportunities canceled. For example, Allen Iverson canceled his photo ops after making us wait from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m., with the cancellation announced around 3 p.m. The event was open from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Sunday, so we had no chance to do anything else. Fanatics is only offering refunds for the photos and autographs, ignoring the wasted time and disappointed fans, including upset kids. This was an absolute disaster, and Fanatics needs to do much better for fans in the future.

[@SportsCardInvestor]

Really sorry to hear that, I wasn't aware that happened.

[@breakgangclay]

Let's not forget ppl with VIP to see Iverson was being skipped by entitled ppl who didn't have to wait in line and I'm hearing some ppl were paying $50 to $100 to skip in a few lines

[@Jesse_Saucedo]

Yeah I heard a lady on a youtubers fanatics fest vlog say the VIP pass was a waste of money and made no difference while they were walking around. Sucks that happened

[@OGBison]

sounds about Fanatics, sadly. sorry you had to deal with that

[@sweikel7012]

​@SportsCardInvestor of course you didn't know because trying to pull the wool over people's eyes

[@mijslap1921]

I'm from the Midwest absolutely no way I can justify spending the money to go to this. If I wanted to go to a sporting event I'd rather go to a game!

[@alvinbarrett741]

I wasn’t at Fanatics Fest but I was at the National and I would have liked the Athletes interactions. One thing I would recommend is for the shows to not be so close to same time frames.

[@forpetesake20]

18:39 a perfect example that this is gambling not collecting

[@nategarcia7694]

The 2 go hand in hand. You can argue the gambling aspect is out of balance with the collector part tho

[@TheRealJohnHamp]

I assume you are referring to him saying "I need the thrill of the chase"? If so, to be fair, he did preface that statement with "when I'm ripping wax" which is a small part of what some people do regarding sports cards. However, I think that collecting in general is naturally inherently similar in some ways to gambling. Any collector searching for the last card to finish a set, or that holy Grail card they have been searching for for years is chasing the dopamine release that they get when they finally locate and purchase what they have been looking for. It's really not much different than when a gambler gets a rush from winning a big bet. I guess what I'm saying is that who cares how people are enjoying this hobby? Whether they are ripping wax to try and chase that lottery ticket hit and are strictly motivated by money. Or if they are that "true collector", we all see in every comment section preaching about being one of the master race. It's not your money so who cares how people spend theirs? So what if some people see this as gambling? I personally don't give AF and think you shouldn't either.

[@forpetesake20]

@TheRealJohnHamp he literally said lottery ticket, if that aint gambling then nothing is. i didnt read any of your comment 🤣😅😂 boot licker 😅🤣😂

[@anovak3309]

Of course, people who strive on selling hobby boxes talks down on retail products, ive lost way more money on hobby products then retail. Look at Prizm basketball this year when a 900 box might get you $50 in value, when a blaster prizm box for $40 almost guarantees half the value back.

[@carolinatarheels7903]

It was even better 6 years ago where you could pull a non graded $500 Luka base rookie out of a $20 blaster or $40 mega.

[@grim7747]

The retail line of sports cards needs a change. Retail shouldn't be it's own product with exclusive parallels and lower-level hits. Make retail an extension of hobby where you have a shot at all the big stuff.

[@Spankz808]

I totally agree

[@socalrams74]

The prices are ridiculuos for hobby boxes, what teenager can afford $300-500 for a hobby box?

[@mikethouvenot7290]

That’s how it used to be, most of the same hits as hobby but just a little tougher odds. It was worth taking a chance at retail, unfortunately it’s not anymore.

[@Duuuval23]

No doubt. You should be able to pull the same shit from a blaster box that you can from a hobby box.

[@taedar]

​@@socalrams74 Hobby boxes in the mid and late nineties were close to and some over 100 bucks . That's almost 30 years ago. 300 bucks isn't totally insane

[@KK-pm7ud]

Helloooo CT Scanners

[@Andrew-hq2ku]

😂😂😂

[@Mrdoubtfire23]

T Pot was not there . I was waiting to meet him take a picture maybe autograph,he gives an honest advice about collecting sports cards.

[@t-pott4504]

Hope to see you soon! 🤝

[@0SULLYW]

I wonder if Doug keeps his vampire coffin in the back of Cards HQ, Can anyone say they’ve witnessed him outside the shop during daylight? If I ever visit cards HQ I’m bringing a few slabs, garlic, & some holy water

[@davidbobo9740]

Didn't you also say the same about your store changing the world ???

[@carolinatarheels7903]

You mean Geoff hasn’t changed the face of how things are being bought and sold? 🤣🤣🤣

[@crosbycup6593]

These guys are the issue with the HOBBY. No one wants what’s being brought in. The great things about cards were being able to grow a collection of things or players you liked and own unique pieces of athletes and being an avg person that wasn’t rich. Now again there’s cards that no one can own cause the rich ruin everything. Influencers and sneaker heads need to leave the hobby.

[@southdaytontradingco]

Geoff Wilson fanning over fanatics is gross. Complete pandering.

[@Andrew-hq2ku]

Helloooooo Daddy Rubin!!!!

[@bradleywhite5406]

I continue to watch his videos to see how corny Geoff is and because I support T pot who is a true and honest person in the hobby. But Geoff just comes off so disingenuous

[@stueystuey1962]

I'll stake my claim here wrt comments. Collectors are collectors. Fans are fans. There is some overlap but not nearly enough to 10x the hobby going the Fanatics route. I do not know what Fanatics outlay was, but I'm sure it was considerable. I am certain that the roi was not there for Fanatics nor for those who set up at the show. Prices for cards are such that fans are going to be like wtf? Are you kidding me? I'm not wanting to be a jerk. I just don't think that fans' events as cool as they are, will grow the hobby.

[@ryanfitzgerald2816]

@@bradleywhite5406 I'm with you, without T Pot in the thumbnail and on the panel, I don't watch their videos. He's the only one that has anything in common with me as far as collecting goes.

[@josegarrido8650]

Wilson is always looking at how to get his hand on that pot of money

[@pewpewTN]

Panini & Fanatics are the worst companies to have controlling the hobby. They are going to ruin it all.

[@nbaballersclub]

Panini tried, but fanatics will be the end of the hobby as we know it.

[@ryanfitzgerald2816]

Good thing is there are many millions of cards already produced out there, don't have to keep buying the modern garbage to have fun collecting.

[@brandonhomb7965]

They have already ruined the hobby. Not sure why anyone thought Fanatics would be better.

[@user-ed1yx2fq7l]

I can’t fathom why anyone would waste their money going to a NY card show where everything is over priced and taxed

[@jamescarbon3853]

Not everyone is broke

[@InstrumentPlayer]

I’m new to the hobby and appreciate all this information. Use to collect in the 90s and am enjoying picking it back up

[@Duuuval23]

Do NOT take advice from Geoff. Teapot, yes!

[@bradleywhite5406]

I sincerely hope people take this advice and I can not emphasize this enough.

[@zachc3246]

I met Trish Stratus here in AZ. And she was so amazing taking time with the fans and making you laugh. Meet and greets can be bad or really amazing. Kevin Nash was ehhh didn't talk much.

[@stephencifuentes5907]

Fanatics fest can be very cool and new , but the National is for us collectors that don't need to feel all flashy and in the spotlight.

[@Samuel-cb8ip]

When I went to the Cubs game, I tried to autograph from athletes. They were laughing at us even though there were a lot of children present.

[@stevenbroughton9264]

They went to look for the card and seen the crazy prices and said screw tyat

[@DjFilipino]

I think they delivered from seeing all the videos. I think 3k a table was little absurd though.

[@goaliecoach00]

From all the content on YT it looks like it didn't do a thing for the "sportscard hobby." It's just a new event that brings sports fanfest around the country.

[@carolinatarheels7903]

I thought it was like a state fair where people are trying to sell you a hot tub or a camper. Felt like a live infomercial.

[@djt.frosty69]

There are 100 colors for the same card. The hobby is a damn joke lmao

[@RobSportCards]

You comment something negative in every single video, you must be very unhappy in life. You have millions of KZbin videos to watch but somehow find yourself watching sports card videos just to comment something negative 😂 while helping the channels algorithm by watching it and commenting.

[@maxrothman8722]

@@RobSportCardslol

[@sunny8784]

so true, 30 different 1/1, so is that really considered a 1/1? uh no..lol a vintage card that has a pop 1 or 2, thats truly a pop 1 or 2. they didnt make 30 different variations back then. that is whats ruining the hobby. The athletes need to do better as well, i get it they want to make money, but they should do things on their own rather than use fanatics, the owner of fanatics is scum. Terrible he is in the hobby, he will ruin it.

[@RawCardTom]

You 3 guys have a knack for solid information, great opinions and points of view on the topics at hand each week. Very well done!

[@altonT]

My best interaction with players was 1990 Pirates fest. Brought a ball for signing and got 8 pirates greats to sign, for free. One came over to me, introduced himself, asked if I was enjoying myself and signed my ball.

[@grindstone11]

But now those players are upset they didn’t earn how this generation is. It’s a 2 edged sword

[@maykecabrera587]

I have to say I'm been bit by the bug and just started collecting again. I mainly stick to baseball but love ufc so I might try that but just ordered a couple of boxes from fanatics. Let's see what I get when I get them. I've actually been following you guys lately great content. 👍

[@TomCardHits]

I enjoyed what Fanatics had to offer! We had a great time and it made for some great content with all the different things they had going on 👍

[@MrDion0123]

Wish we had shows like these in Australia

[@kinggambino3698]

i was thinking that this would be a hit in melbourne imo (SYDNEY IS TO BIG AND CROWDED). even adelaide...... i say adelaide because look how easy it is to take over that great city for a great event and how much they embrace it... (gather round AFL)

[@RobertWalterweldon]

I was an everyday sportsfan drawn into collecting over 5 years ago. I hit massive cards in my own wax purchases and group breaking. It cost me a lot of money however. Dealing with people who never want to pay comp prices no matter where you turn in order to keep going forward made it a bad decision in the long run. Im out chasing the "childrens game." All this shit trying to keep in with the Jonses was just a fuitile move on my part. Now im getting to the point of getting out of it completely. I wanted to be involved with the Hobby. But the Hobby did nothing but tease me and overall decided to bump me out. I got the hint and will focus on real life experiences rather than glorifying athletes.

[@slimrick]

That was a comic con for sports nerds a sports con ... Looked fun tbh

[@SreyAun-sd1eb]

It was a solid event. If they run 7 or 8 of these around the country every year it would be good. But is it transendant? No. Its a nice event. These could be nice supplement to regional card shows but its not a danger to them.

[@angelou1]

Geoff acting like a real fan boy. Get of Rubin'd joke. You know it's not an apples to apples comparison. Just do a pros and cons on both. l could'nt care less about seeing some celebrities I'm all about the cards l want to see endless booths of dealers with catfs!

[@PacksForProfit]

One big failure was scheduling weeks after The National. Next year I’m sure I’ll do both no matter what, but for the average person if neither are local it’s quite a big ask not spacing it out 30+ days.

[@Duuuval23]

Anyone investing in AR, needs to have a talk with their shrink and financial advisor. Dude looked atrocious tonight and he will be hurt by week 3. I’m not hoping for him to get hurt, but it’s the reality. Listening to the Bengals players trashing him during their scrimmage, was hilarious 😂😂😂. They were not lying either. Also, Geoff, not everyone can afford to spend $800 on a fucking hobby box.

[@sweikel7012]

Agree with ar comments he is trash really only qb to invest in Is cj stroud

[@hesisportscards7699]

I think as they expand Fanatics Fest over the coming years, it'll have a larger card presence. The comparison between Comic Con and Fanatics Fest is spot on. I could see in 10 years "Fanatics Fest" becoming a household name for everyone.

[@t-pott4504]

Agreed

[@bodietyler519]

Someone let Geoff know Fresh Clean Threads makes colors other than black.

[@Andrew-hq2ku]

😂😂😂

[@elizabethwiggins3849]

Collecting is not like it use to be. Companies are driving the price up where new collectors can't afford to buy them.

[@VivaSicilia]

What needs to happen to 10x the number of collectors? Well first, card companies need to lower the price of these boxes, it's ridiculous. They will never get 10x the number of collectors as long as the prices are this high. Fanatics say that "collecting is cool" but it's not cool, it's an expensive hobby and they are trying to lure an everyday sports fan with pro players at FanFest? C'mon, once these 10X collectors go to a Walmart or Target and find nothing and then go to the card shop and walk out spending over $250+, we will see how long these 10x collectors will stay in this expensive hobby.

[@richardharden6811]

It looked amazing!

[@GaMbIt1986]

Loved this episode. One of the best you guys have done in this format

[@SteveRucker]

Its a money grab.

[@juanmanueldominguezjr]

Love this team!

[@fullhouse7727]

New york is not the place for it. Put it in Dallas and watch the attendence go over 100k. Nobody besides east coasters will make the trip and spend the $ to go to NYC

[@the_book_of_edward]

It was my first ever event and I loved it butttt I expected more on the sport figures side of things. Over all very cool and fun time. Definitely made my first trade there so I was happy

[@paulmouradjian6045]

That manufactured patch is a desperate maneuver to create another worthless chase. 😂

[@carolinatarheels7903]

“ Collecting is Cool” wow, how long did it take them to come up with that? Maybe 5 seconds while they were watching an episode of Saved by the Bell from the 90’s.

[@therej5052]

Have to remember this is an event for kids first. Kids should love it and adults need to be second.

[@KK-pm7ud]

This is an event for the sports companies first.

[@kevinharrison3845]

Have to remember this is an event for everyone. That’s the point of growing the sports and trading card hobby…

[@kinggambino3698]

isnt this event labelled as like a comiccon of sports? i think thats more aimed at young adults but idk

[@rebelwithacause3574]

Of course it is. All these sports are children's games that adults should consider an after thought.

[@WaveGodx718]

It really isnt cards are expensive tickets are expensive and you also have to pay for eaxh athlete to sign or take a photo op with thanks but no thanks

[@KK-pm7ud]

Grant Cardone running Fanatics strategy

[@Prox-nt3jo]

Fanatics Fest has a motivation that The National doesn't. Fanatics needs to sell cards because they make them. Fanatics needs the National to now sell the cards that they sell. The National doesn't need to compete with the Fanatics Fest. The better Fanatics Fest does, the better The National does. I would just let Fanatics spend the money on marketing if I was The National.

[@MrThebig80]

I mean Michael Rubin is the CEO of fanatics I dont think theres much of a chance of competing with that.

[@SS-pc6dg]

Why do you call it a hobby? It is clearly a business for you...

[@FrankensTCG]

Like any HOBBY there is a BUSINESS side. Just because they're in business, doesn't mean they're not in the hobby collecting.

[@jamesher7835]

It's just a piece of cardboard money is more valuable

[@SS-pc6dg]

@@FrankensTCG The name of the channel is, "Sports Card Investor", he has the "Sports Card Investor Store", he sells a product for other sports card investors to track their sports card investments and he hosts a website that is a price guide for sports cards. He is in the hobby of trying to collect money and NOT the hobby of collecting sports cards. Buying cards as "investments" in order to flip the card and make money is a business and NOT a hobby. A real collector/hobbyist would only trade cards until they opt to exit the hobby. He exited the hobby years ago. Hobby - An activity or interest pursued for pleasure or relaxation and not as a main occupation. Business - The purchase and sale of goods in an attempt to make a profit. The ONLY interest he has is the hobby of collecting money... sports TRADING cards is what he is attempting to exploit.

[@SS-pc6dg]

@@jamesher7835 Money is just a piece of cloth and/or a magnetic pattern in some hard drive... neither of which tastes very good nor provides much, if any nutrition. The only things of true value in this world are air, water, food, friends and family. Personally, I'd rather have some shiny pictures of athletes on cardboard than some images of dead politicians/old buildings on pieces of cloth or a magnetic pattern in a hard drive but you do you.

[@realaudioreviews]

@@jamesher7835no

[@Andrew-hq2ku]

Anyone else surprised Tpott is still employed by Geoff after last week? 😂

[@hillmakesmusic]

Your guys are putting out a top notch show, but the audio needs serious help. Please address this in future videos!

[@TravelLivingthedream]

Do you want to buy a 1969 Topps baseball set in excellent to mint condition ? I’m serious I’ve contacted Goldin auction as well but thought I would hit you up first

[@TheLegendofBrettMorrison]

Perfect catch me at the National One Day and Flea Markets... thats why the Hobby is what it is.. you can go to New York or a Flea Market in Kentucky or Ohio and OR West Virginia or anywhere and Never Know What your going to Find and where you are going to find it... Honestly LESS PEOPLE BETTER CHANCES

[@mangobango6970]

I noticed the card cleaning booth right behind ya'lls booth. Was that a very prominent thing at this show?

[@Andrew-hq2ku]

Right next to the CT scanner booth.

[@CardInvestor30]

Ima pull the lecurryreaper 1/1 card so I can come to Cards HQ

[@JigginwithG]

I pull more stuff from retail than hobby usually 😅😂

[@FrankensTCG]

Your audio certainly hasn't changed the hobby. Geeze, someone needs to retune your setup.....

[@RobSportCards]

You comment something negative in every single video, you must be very unhappy in life. You have millions of KZbin videos to watch but somehow find yourself watching sports card videos just to comment something negative 😂 while helping the channels algorithm by watching it and commenting.

[@chrishayes4166]

It was so much cooler and yet the show in Manhattan NYC had 40k less people show than the National in a "class D" (Geoff's words) conference center. The show looked like a lot of fun, don't get me wrong. But I don't think we have to pretend that we need to completely reinvent the wheel when it comes to the Sports Card National as it's distinctly more popular, at least currently.

[@hotjoe817]

If you wanted 100k in people they should have given people special items as they walked in, just saying, giveaways would have been nice

[@Exit22]

You're the reason I quit collecting cards and sold my collection.

[@johnnybrows8123]

Is that a good or bad thing?

[@J-man1017]

Who is

[@J-man1017]

Kinda sad ..whys he bother u so much don't watch? U Mustve been a post covid collector huh

[@terryalexander563]

So why are you even watching this video? I don't understand that. If I don't like something or someone, they definitely aren't getting my time. I would love to understand this phenomenon, I find it quite interesting.

[@TheRealJohnHamp]

He made you quit collecting cards and sell your collection yet you continue to watch these videos AND comment on them? All while he has absolutely no knowledge that you even exist? You would probably be much happier if you didn't let random internet people have so much control over your life.

[@captun5207]

Apples and Oranges. Real collectors won’t bother with FF. Sports fans want an experience not a card show. There is plenty of room for both.

[@boompow2549]

Spot on

[@mikeywestside8509]

One man's grail is another man's toilet paper

[@mitchjohnson4970]

Are PSA 10 cards worth picking up if you can get them for less than $20? I only PC Juan Gonzalez and figure if it's roughly $20 to get them graded, they should be worth at least $20 if I need to sell them in the future.

[@DaveHebert-vk7yg]

I heard on CNBC interview with gent from Fanatics that there were tickets that went for $9,000 or more for a SUPER VIP experience. Did you hear about that and if so, what did they get for it?

[@TiagoNunesCA]

Don’t read negative comments. Keep up the great work!

[@johnwayne9828]

😂😂😂awe, you afwaid of some mean comments? Does somebody need his mommy?

[@stueystuey1962]

Autos are extremely personal. Not to be weird but the draw to auto cards, unnumbered or not, refractor not, we know (like to think!) that the player has handled the card.

[@jay8151]

Don’t tell me about a UFC fighters comments about fans, let me hear A.I. say something because I’m sure he hates it

[@t-pott4504]

Im sure you can look up clips of AI talking about fans if you crave that

[@Darthkeldean]

Guys so your saying fanatics fest is like the state fair with celebrities? My local state fair sometimes has rings and experiences. How you blowing fanatics is a shame. Tpot was the only one pointing out negative’s. Why didn’t y’all mentions the long wait for the experiences like many who went have mentioned. Not everyone is an internet celebrity who gets head of line privileges. You don’t have to bash your suppliers but at least stress who your business is reliant on allocation from fanatics to stay in business so people know this wasn’t a true unbiased video.

[@jamesrushland2836]

I have never been to a National that hasn't had issues especially with the internet!!!

[@fluriekfluriek2913]

Do we know attendance difference between The National vs Fanatics fest?

[@PacksForProfit]

I think he mentioned roughly 110k The National and 70k Fanatics Fest

[@dandougie363]

Yup I bought kids tickets they didn’t even check

[@letsgetweirdtv1]

THEY OFFER GAMBLING CARDS FOR ONLINE CASINOS SITH PKGS NOW FANACTICS BAD!!!!!

[@johngast3550]

Only people who never spent their weekend at a mall to maybe make $1000 would not blink at the $3000 to set up at Fanatics Fest let alone be wanting to go to have major shows at LA or Vegas.

[@findstevesface7701]

Most people i know didnt hear about it til after national

[@BSABD315]

Best way to sell my non graded RC collection in bulk?

[@dropballbrenan]

Really enjoyable video with lots Of good information and ideas BUT Is it possible to have one of these videos without Doug proving a negative view on soMething lol😅

[@user-qb6vi4cv2c]

Gimmicks in a hobby only means that the hobby is struggling. It’s time to back off and don’t get sucked up in all the hype.

[@DRFOSTER82]

Not first but Go Gators 🐊 🐊🐊

[@steveprichard9655]

No, it was about random celebrities!! It’s not the same!

[@shaankhilnani3757]

Did u go to burbank card show

[@sneijder023]

I thought. Collectors die but cards live forever. Supply and demand.

[@guitarlearningtoplay]

The logoman looks the exact same and no one cares

[@SunnyRaval]

WWE carried FF- people really need to put more respect on WWE and their fanbase!

[@user-ed1yx2fq7l]

WWE is D level acting

[@rozzie101]

Fantastic already messed up with MLB gear, how can they be expected to do right by Sports cards???

[@DirectorJohnAsher]

You guys HAVE to fix your sound... I love the show but it sounds like you're in a bathroom.... might be all the glass around you guys reflecting the sound?? You sound distorted... the mix is off. Just FYI !! keep up the great work!!!

[@paulmouradjian6045]

Sorry..Doesn't seem that Wayne Gretzky needed Sothbey's when he purchase the T-206. Give is all a break.

[@frankvaughn605]

The problem is if the goal is to 10x collectors with theses big shows not everyone wanting to collect can afford most of what is for sale there.. Not everyone can afford to spend 100's to thousands of dollars on cards and that's mainly all that's there at these big shows unfortunately.

[@carolinatarheels7903]

What else did Jay-z have going on? He hasn’t had a hit record in 20 years. Of course he’s going to take the gig. Maybe next year they can get Corey Feldman.

[@pezscards3859]

Sorry no one wants Arena Club slabbed cards.....tired of all these wanna be graders just trying to jump on the bandwagon and make a buck....pure greed. I know....shocking term there

[@elizabethwiggins3849]

Its all about the MONEY

[@Hdoubleuthree]

Bro is like 50 years old posting dramatic crying pics in his titles. LAME

[@Andrew-hq2ku]

😂😂😂😂

[@YourcasualSoutherner]

I thought it sucked

[@JoeyPeeps157]

What’s with Geoff on the thumbnail always looking like he’s gotta drop a deuce? I wanna see Geoff happy😃

[@guitarlearningtoplay]

1st year, I can see this easily overtaking the National! If they can get it to 50% card show that would be perfect!

[@TheLegendofBrettMorrison]

Hellllllooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

[@TimyD-bh7rc]

Cant get enough..... Thankyou!

[@kocain313]

How come 2 of u guy dont have enough nice things to say about fanatics and all the comments and alot of other KZbinrs all say what a disappointment and waste of time and money it was?

[@johnwayne9828]

Hmmmmmm, maybe because it WAS a waste of money. Did that thought ever cross your mind?

[@t-pott4504]

Who said it was a waste of money? Everyone’s videos I have seen said there were pros and cons.

[@kareempies4341]

TPott comparing himself to a professional athlete is classic. TPott is the epitome of an internet hero because of this Internet channel. Geoff gets way too much hate but oddly TPott has a lot of fan boys, I guess a lot of people online are similar to him and relate.

[@Andrew-hq2ku]

😂😂😂 Tpott is a legend in his own mind. SCJW (sports card justice warrior)

[@bradleywhite5406]

That would be because T Pot is in this for the love of the hobby and is sincere. After watching that abysmal sales pitch on the CT scan video by Geoff he just lost me forever. But that’s just because in sports cards people have different values which is fine

[@kareempies4341]

@@bradleywhite5406 what does “love of the hobby” even mean? Is this like saying you can’t be a true sports team fan unless you have posters on your wall and paint your face?