SPOTIFY ALGORITHMIC PLAYLISTS EXPLAINED | What you need to know!

[@KittykoMusic]

Thanks for the video! What is a Spotify Radio playlist?

[@zephyrhillmusic]

Good video again Joey. We are getting down to the nitty gritty that artists need actual real fans, that like their music! If an artist makes good music and can get people to hear some then they stand a good chance of a follow and regular listens. Spotify is almost acting like an algorithmic A&R guy. 😀👍

[@JoeyClarksonMusic]

Precisely!!!

[@dimitrios_siranidis]

Independent Artists together 🔊🎵⭐ thank you

[@JoeyClarksonMusic]

Community is everything! Thank you for taking the time to leave this lovely comment :)

[@SDIGGIE]

She Never Told us HOW? Im still frustrated

[@redcurrantrecords]

Thanks Joey, slowly trying to break the 1k

[@JoeyClarksonMusic]

You are very welcome! Good luck!

[@tyronewilliams8344]

...so as an independent artist on Spotify, we're screwed.

[@JoeyClarksonMusic]

I wouldn’t say that at all. Most of my network are independent artists and many of them have been playlisted on Spotify official playlists, algorithmic playlists and user generated playlists. I would say your statement rings true if artists try to cheat/game the system though, which unfortunately is something that I also see a lot of.

[@alanduncan1980]

So, someone could release a song of just fart noises and tell people to heart it and all of a sudden it'll be considered a very, very good song and Spotify will recommend it to the world. Got it!

[@JoeyClarksonMusic]

While I can appreciate the humour (and this definitely made me chuckle) that’s precisely why pushing your music on people who don’t like it, and using vanity metrics, is a terrible idea. Expanding on your fart metaphor: the moment Spotify considers it “very very good” from the fake engagement, and proceeds to send it to anyone outside of the people you told to heart it, is the moment it will flop/tank… because as soon as the fart track is sent outside of that fake engagement circle, people are going to dislike/skip it, which will halt any fake momentum you’ve managed to garner. This is not to say there isn’t an audience who wants fart sounds, but if you want to find them: don’t start by showing it to an audience who has no interest in it. With all of this said; spotify is actually cracking down on ambient noise uploads, so releasing fart songs (unless they’re actually musical) is a terrible idea unless you want to have your “music” removed from the platform 😂 Best of luck with whatever genre you create though!

[@paulnunn5463]

Really im confused 😕 this and the dont repeat video,so Spotify pay nothing artists like vanity metrics ,vanity metrics hurt so what is the point to it all,fans should listen a few times then move on elsewhere 🤔 I don't get it other than the obvious that a booker and Spotify realise the value of listening numbers not listened to numbers, ok this from a fan ĺistener perspective 🤷‍♂️

[@JoeyClarksonMusic]

If a fan listens 1 time a day (or a couple) that would be perceived as a normal amount. If a fan listens to a song on repeat for an hour, that is likely to be flagged as spam activity - as people generally don't choose to listen to a 3.5 minute song for a straight hour. That's where the potential damage comes into play. The reason we should focus on growing our audience with audience members who like the genre and style of music we play (rather than begging friends and family to help us get our numbers up) is so spotify can collect the data of what our ideal listener looks like: this way, if they find other listeners on their platform who share similar tastes to our listeners, they know that if they put our music infront of the new people, they are likely to enjoy it and stay on their platform. I hope that helped clear it up!

[@paulnunn5463]

@@JoeyClarksonMusic I'm old school from the days of less music choice so we did listen to an album or a fewsongs over again till we knew the words, for me now its too disposable especially during Lockdown when we get introduced to so many new musicians that while I love them I can no longer say I know their stuff as I once might have🤷‍♂️maybe I need to be more fussy and cull my listening and viewing 🤔must admit Spotify do a pretty good job of the daily playlist choices eve with my odd range of music

[@JoeyClarksonMusic]

@@paulnunn5463 I can absolutely understand repeat listening to a full album! I still do that when new albums come out. Its not uncommon for me to play a new album back to back for 1-2 hours (usually 1-3 times through the album). Its the singles, back to back, that flag the real problem. Again, 1-3 maybe even 5 could be considered a normal listening habit. But 20 times in a row (which is around an hour of the same song, for an average 3 minute song) would probably appear to be very fishy. Unfortunately, artists and some well intending fans have done and do this for more than hours at a Time. This isn't an hour over the course of a week or a month, this is an hour every day... or more... or worse yet... streaming on repeat with the sound off (as if Spotify can't tell the volume is down!) I would be very, very surprised to learn that even in the days of physical listening only, people would listen to one song on loop for 1+ hours every day 😱 I think that this is where the problem lies, not in the small fish numbers of real listening experiences. Listening to a song for the number of times you actually want to listen to the song is not the problem :)

[@paulnunn5463]

@@JoeyClarksonMusic ah yes that makes sense in a nutshell, shame more artists don't explain this detail and shame Spotify pay is poor turning it into a number game for artists payment and subscriber value for our money 👍

[@nozza2651]

Please make a vid on editorial playlist!!

[@JoeyClarksonMusic]

Thanks for watching and commenting! I'll add this one to my list for sure 🥳

[@etereotipo]

Thaaaanks