SPRING Mount Keyboards = Future - Featuring Epomaker Type 65

[@DeRickz69420]

YES I would definitely love to see a POC of how you'd mod your own spring leaves to a gasket mount board, like how you converted your OG tofu to a spring mount! I'm currently using a gasket mount board and all these newer, more bouncier mounting solutions have definitely made me hella jealous.

[@Keybored]

Will take note of it!

[@Crazygamer-sq1zt]

@@Keybored did you ever progress with this idea?

[@HandsomeAlex25]

The leaf spring mounting concept is a really good one, and I think that's the way forward for anyone going for a deeper sound profile. I already submitted the interest check form at Epomaker.

[@albertko1]

I'm curious if there's going to be any issues with metal fatigue or "sag" over time. In cars, they've even used composite materials for leaf springs to avoid such issues. I wouldn't mind a FR or CF plate that has a the spring integrated

[@Keybored]

That is something to keep an eye out for

[@philipp594]

That only happens when you pushing the material close to breaking. It happens with cars because the leaf springs only go in one direction but there is compound loading in curves and also cost and weight are big conisderations in that case so they fatique over time. If you compare the size and weight of these keyboard springs to the car ones you will notice the difference.

[@TheApostateTapir]

Just found your channel and the science based approach really speaks to me. You're basically a keyboard wizard; thank you for sharing your knowledge!

[@J7T800]

Finally, a board that cares a little about your wrists. Still going to use a wrist rest though, because that completes the look.

[@Keybored]

Definitely a better height for wrists

[@josebarrios2464]

Out of the many keyboards you’ve built and typed on which one is the one you keep going back to?

[@Keybored]

Hmm... There are quite a few

[@YurttheSilentChief1]

Nice to see more manufacturers going for THICC bezels on keyboards

[@Jeffrey_Wong]

Please do! I tried 3D printing some leaf spring blocks to replace the poron foam pads in my Keychron Q6, didn't quite get the dimensions right the first try but I'm really interested to see what this mod could do in terms of sound and feel.

[@gunterdienektarine3802]

i really hope this becomes the new standard mounting style because this way you don't have to use a softer plate material to make your keyboard bouncier

[@philipp594]

I like alu plates, because they distribute flex more evenly and sound very similar whereever you are on the board. You can still make the sound deeper in other ways. Clacky switches with alu plate and pe foam are a really underrated combo.

[@leoneldb60]

It would be great to see a bridge spring replacement for a typical poron gasket mount 😁

[@PhoenixKeebs]

Hey keybored, can you make a video on case swapping the halo65, to an aluminum case. I have been looking, for a tutorial everywhere but can't find one.

[@WinkleKeebs]

THE formula: Isolated flux cut, black 1.2PCB, Leaf spring mounted and the 8x bubble rate IXPE sheet. Thanks owlab

[@Keybored]

Haha yup

[@oriolinton]

no pain no gain right lol ....that was ridiculous and i certainly hope that they fix that issue as i dont want bleeding fingers from my Keeb man..thanks for the review and i look forward to watching more of you content.

[@imohsoconfused]

Yes! I want to see more experimentation with springs! 😮

[@F0XdIE67]

Wow, budget keeb manufacturers are really stepping up their game!

[@Keybored]

Definitely!

[@TechManG]

Would love to see spring gaskets replace the poron! Thanks for everything you do for this community!

[@liseorte]

Yes! I’d love to see you attempt springs on a gasket board - that would be awesome

[@okayzimbabwe]

Tofus have been in production for awhile

[@pogcat3773]

As a tofu enjoyer, I can confirm that the stems on the production units do not fly off with your keycaps. Great video!

[@Keybored]

Hope so!

[@swagman9001]

yo any tips on how I can make my space65 rIII more bouncy?? even with no foam and the pom plate it is not very flexy as it is a really shallow case and the silicone gasket socks are quite hard.. like are there softer gasket socks or should I get some other kind of gasket or ????

[@siegekeebs]

Production tofu are definitely fixed! Although they do fit tight in the plate. Really good switches

[@TheApostateTapir]

This is the nicest sounding keyboard I've ever heard.

[@sune7482]

Has no one else realized that Magic Mind is literally Brain Max from Regular Show, it's the same color and everything.

[@Caution40404]

Would love an option for stiffer spring gaskets (not a fan of super flexy keyboard, tbh) and more importantly, no flex-cut PCBs because they kill the sound so much.

[@Lishtenbird]

* looks at calendar * Uhm, no - spring is present, sir.

[@Keybored]

Lol

[@scymension]

Hmmm. Spring gaskets on budget boards like the GMMK Pro would be cool but I doubt there is enough room for those without heavy modding

[@WatamelonUberSheep]

I've hit a certain point in the hobby where I don't want to follow the latest never ending trend of this hobby like the newest mount style to the vast amount of similar mx style switches. I just use my hhkb nowadays and for custom builds I just whatever case that looks good and buy some gateron yellows to lube for it.

[@solaufein]

You should try Akko SPR67. It is spring mounted and it looks very soft...

[@yannickjulien154]

The production now Tofus suffer from slightly bigger housings which makes them harder to seat into plates and a nightmare to pull out without mangling a few switches, other switches by KNC keys manufactured by Tecsee have this issue as well such as the Green Jackets and the Red Jackets 2.0.

[@Keybored]

Mangling switches and bleeding fingers lol

[@tontiv]

green jackets 1.0 or 2.0?

[@metrix8155]

I'll be honest, I think that the flex cuts are not only unnecessary, but are actually detrimental to this keyboard. It's already so bouncy that the flex cuts don't really do anything to provide any additional flex. It just made the sound super thin for the no foam build, and even the full foam didn't sound that great to my ears. I just don't understand why they were included considering the already insane amount of bounce provided by the spring mounts.

[@soymilktotheface]

I’m not an engineer but while it wouldn’t provide additional bounce, would it not contribute to ease of bounce? Like force required to bend? feel like you can’t say it’s completely unnecessary

[@Keybored]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@K1LO_]

Couldn't agree more

[@metrix8155]

@@soymilktotheface I mean I would technically do something, you're right. However, it would be so small compared to what the springs already do that it would be negligible. I don't think there will be a non flex cut pcb, so we won't be able to know for sure, but that's just my guess.

[@zerotwo3084]

@@soymilktotheface So, Bounce would be the entire assemby moving, flex would be more local like when you press a single that key and maybe some sourrounding keys flex. This kind of PCB can work with a very soft and cut plate but when you add an alu or fr4 plate, even with some cuts, the movement of the individual flex cuts is basically nothing.

[@lone0017]

With matcha and mushroom, I think the magicmind contains a fair amount of l-thenanine. So if you need some thing a bit stronger, try taking l-theanine + caffeine, 2:1 ratio. Nice video btw, I like the idea of adding spring to gasket mounted keyboards. Let's see if I can find some thin piece of metal for that.

[@Delbs1]

Man, I really hope either this gets a 60% version, or the CK Bakaneko60 gets a Silver edition, because I really liked the sound/feel of both, but unfortunately theres no Silver colorway with 60% 🥺

[@FromPlsNerf]

I must have this....I load up my Bakeneko with polyfill to make it bouncier. This would be perfect for me..

[@Keybored]

Definitely is bouncy!

[@gamingsoups]

honestly ive seen the whole flexcut gimmick (if you can call it that) falling out of style recently i think my personal config would be tape modded, no foam, and an alu plate. I wonder how that would sound

[@jessiequema2494]

I say go for it!

[@MichaelMorikawa]

Retrofit spring mounts for poron gasket boards: Could this be the much anticipated Keybored keyboard? (brought to you by PCBWay)

[@philipp594]

Wrist rests are bad for ergonmics, because you are pinching the nerve in the carpal tunnel when you wrist is lieing straight on it. Eiterh don't rest it, or rest it on the table in front of the keyboard and prop up your elbow so that you are not hurting the nerves.

[@thestreamreader]

yes try it out on your other boards

[@Soundtrack2Chaos]

So there's a Type 65 and a Typ65 now?

[@Keybored]

Haha are there? People need more creative names

[@drauc]

Make the Yunzii KC68 or something similar have leaf-spring gaskets please!!!

[@Keybored]

Will have to see what that is!

[@CosmicBananaTCG]

Spring up the gasket boys let's see

[@Keybored]

I'll have to see if I can do my own!

[@jonathanelkin3830]

Make the QK65 a leaf spring!!

[@coyotex850]

only a matter of time before we start getting keyboards with coilovers lol

[@Keybored]

Some PSS10s for keebs

[@ImOnMy116]

Absolutely would love to see you engineer a similar mounting in another gasket mounted case! It’s too bad epomaker’s almost surely using a proprietary daughterboard. I feel like a no flex cut PCB in this would be great, and given that it’s plate mounted, presumably the type c daughterboard is the only thing standing in the way of swapping out the PCB.

[@Keybored]

I'll definitely look into it now!

[@ImOnMy116]

@@Keybored Would definitely love to hear what you find out, thank you!

[@lauhernsean6179]

try using less leaf springs. the flex will be insane

[@Keybored]

It'll be too crazy haha. Ultra flex

[@tazzmania6292]

Flex 10/10 Looks 8/10 Sound 3/10

[@TrebleHarmonies]

the future is now old man

[@Keybored]

Sure is

[@ufinc]

Foamless sounds 1000x times better I can't believe people are still using foam in 2023 smh

[@make749perday]

"If you don't value your time, neither will others. Stop giving away your time and talents-start charging for it." -Kim Garst

[@jammies701]

Nice vid

[@JeffWaynee]

Custom keyboard features are becoming like Linux. Too many choices.

[@Keybored]

Haha it is very truw