Springfield’s SAR-4800 FAL…in 5.56mm

[@mbizarria]

I'm a police officer in Brazil and sometimes I use this rifle as my duty rifle. Actually it's a Imbel MD2. But they are basically the same.

[@glennarnold4108]

Elias Bizarria I wish we could get those up here.

[@glennarnold4108]

We can’t even get new IMBEL barrels here for the FAL. Don’t know how much longer we’ll be able to get the upper receivers.

[@henrique3045]

@@glennarnold4108 Do you know why is that happening?

[@glennarnold4108]

Henrique No I sure don’t. We need IMBEL upper receivers, lower receivers, and new barrels.

[@emerson5225]

Eu achei interessante essa idéia de um FAL em 5.56x45...mas só não gostei desse carregador nele(não combina muito com a arma)... já que tantos pelo mundo reclamavam que o FAL 7.62x51 tem um recuo forte(como disseram em um documentário:"dá coices como uma mula")...mas resumindo tudo,eu presumo que essa versão foi feita só com a intenção de diminuir o recuo dos disparos

[@ineedlean]

The FAL is such a visually and aesthetically appealing rifle to look at. Want one so bad

[@Spocklee]

Yup I have one and I love the way it looks, such a distinct look for sure

[@pauloigor3822]

Fun fact: you can see the MD series in conflicts against drug dealers in Rio de Janeiro even this days.

[@autisticghostdog8179]

and by the drug dealers

[@GuiCury92]

In both sides

[@vilmarmoccelin]

@@GuiCury92 Actually the drug dealers around here prefers the AR-15 platform or even the AK... And beyond the preference they are way cheaper to buy in Paraguay and snuggle to the favelas.

[@bladerj]

@@autisticghostdog8179 they have much better modern weapons, gone are the days they used surpluss from wars around the world. now they even have thermal scopes

[@violet1100]

So wait, Isn’t this basically a FNC? Ian: *Yes. But, actually no.*

[@MeFee100]

More like FN CAL, which eventually succeed.

[@meanmanturbo]

Yeah, a FNC bolt looks nothing like this bolt. The fnc uses a long stroke gas piston and a rotating bolt.

[@thaddeuscarpenter1580]

No, the Sar-4800 bolt is a tilting lock identical to FAL and it also has the FAL short-stroke gas system. The FNC is a turning bolt locking system with a long-stroke gas system more like an AK.

[@wallaroo1295]

@@thaddeuscarpenter1580 🤘🤠🤘 Yeah mang! Awesome summary!

[@Jurflip2]

@@thaddeuscarpenter1580 Yes, correct. The FAL bolt is totally different to the CAL bolt which is again very different to the FNC bolt.

[@LAHFaust]

"it's a FAL, but in 5.56!" I need this in my life.

[@pedrootenio4225]

Actually you can use 7.62 calliber too

[@LAHFaust]

@@pedrootenio4225 I have a 7.62 FAL. That this is in 5.56 is what makes it appealing.

[@eduardo163]

5.56 is shit... for a full male experience use the 7.62...

[@LAHFaust]

@@eduardo163 reading isn't your strong suit is it?

[@ederkkj]

@@LAHFaust doesn't seem to be

[@Lucas-ve1yh]

You should take a look at the IA2, would love to see what you as a gun guy thinks about the Brazil newer 5.56 assault rifle.

[@wooblydooblygod3857]

Also the IA2 .308 version, which is honestly fundamentally pretty different.

[@giuliannochiarelli151]

As Ian says this rifle were created in Brazil not in Argentina. But in Argentina we came up with some kind of 5.56 ak: the FARA. it was produced in limited numbers until it was cancelled in the 90 because of budget cuts. Nowadays the Argentinian marines use the m16 as their service rifle so it’s clear that we abandoned the idea of the fara

[@PostBellumARG]

The FARA was based on an Ak gas and bolt system

[@efirizaki5656]

"Baget cuts"

[@DemianArmandSteele]

@Robertino Tanos el "neoliberarlismo" es la falacia que inventaron los trosko peronchos para justificar sus fracasos, papu.

[@RichardCranium321]

@Robertino Tanos so, politics as usual then??

[@RichardCranium321]

@Robertino Tanos usual doesn't necessarily mean all... USUALLY, countries won't allow an armed populace, but there are exceptions!🇺🇸😊

[@rhubarbpie2027]

Remember when Springfield went out of their way to bring bitchin' surplus guns into the US instead of selling Illinois gun stores down the river? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[@mr_fnh]

#FuckSpringfieldArmory

[@nelsontodd9184]

Rhubarb Pie yep

[@KOTYAR0]

Can you... elaborate? I can't understand what you are saying

[@rhubarbpie2027]

@@KOTYAR0 look up Illinois state bill 1657

[@John1911]

Here is my 2 cents. We have one. A fixed stock conversion. 1. It seems lighter and handier than the 7.62 version. But I’ve never checked. I imagine because of a skinner barrel? 2. It’s a barrel of monkeys fun to shoot. Imagine a FAL you can easily put 500 rounds through in an afternoon of running and gunning. 3. In no way does this compete with an AR. Less so a modern one. So don’t buy it expecting that! 4. Then why buy it? See #2. Just an awesomely fun gun. 5. Ours is very reliable. We even have the gas set to feed wolf 55g steel case. So you CAN run the cheap stuff in it. Regards, Marky

[@pedroitavo1624]

try to use the original FAL in the Araguaia against the fucking comunist..........its like use black pawer guns against the soviets......this shit are horrível (terrible) .........mans die for this.......

[@EDARDO112]

It sounds very brasilian to modify a weapon so you can use cheap rounds 😂

[@happyhaunter_5546]

The person that bought that in pre-ban configuration when it sunsetted: *IT'S TIME.*

[@DemoralizedMan]

The FAL, never FAiLing at making me FALl in love with them.

[@Petite669]

Your pitcture fits this comment so mutch lmao

[@joaojk8690]

Brasil só tem lenda 🇧🇷♥️🇧🇷

[@MatthewTobias]

Well, you did have Senna!

[@mateusmachadomartinsjunior4309]

Fala isso pra garruncha que agente usava até a metade do século 20

[@ajorsomething4935]

The Imbel MD-97 is a really cool gun, it'd be really cool if Ian could get his hands on a original.

[@commandZee]

Regardless of its collector's value is, it would look great slathered with mud and caked with Arizona moon dust.

[@bored383]

caliche mud is made of malice and evil

[@gruenfreiherr8714]

Surefire way to make sure it doesn't run...

[@wooblydooblygod3857]

@@gruenfreiherr8714 the FAL is very reliable even it pretty harsh conditions. Just… don’t let it near any sand

[@troy9477]

The Galil is heavy for a 5.56 also, but no one has ever accused it of being a slouch. This looks like a great rifle, and i love the change to the Para configuration. Someone had good taste. I have heard the Inbel guns are well made. A gunsmith friend of mine in another state likes their parts kits for reasonable-cost FAL builds. My acquisition of one will have to wait until i move to a free state some time in the future. Great video as always. Thank you

[@benaguilar1787]

GOD DAMNIT I was planning/am planning on bidding on this rifle. Now theres going to be more competition for it. Wonderful video as always though.

[@centurian318]

Back when Springfield Armory imported neat stuff like real licenses built HK91’s and FALs of every flavor.

[@richarddixon7276]

Almost all FAL's simply look Functional & purposeful , their not as rad as Steyr or as iconic as an AK but they are up on the cool wall , this one in my eyes is really cool and getting as cool as any FAL is able .Thanks Ian,great show as always !

[@512bb]

I agree Ian with your assessment. As a owner of a SAR-48, 7.62, of coarse I have been tempted many time's to send it to DSA for the full treatment of one of their cool updates but there goes the collectable value. Thats why I just bought a LMT 308 & FN SCAR 17 so I guess I have covered all my base's.BTW the LMT is simply incredible, my favorite 308, hands down!

[@cofa4011]

I really enjoy the work you are doing, transmitting such amount of knowledge with true passion for the weapons as much as for the transmission act itself. You love teaching and that is great as i enjoy learning new things ;) Thank you Ian !

[@nomadgameplays9028]

Nice "fuzil automático leve"

[@cavvieira]

Nomad Natan isn't it Fuzil de Assalto Leve? Light Assault Rifle. Which is funny given how heavy these things are. The original Belgian name meant Fast Automatic Rifle.

[@lucasfernandes9918]

'' fusil automatique leger ''

[@395leandro]

@@cavvieira Não. É Fuzil Automático Leve ou Fusil Automatique Léger em francês. A versão PARA usada no Brasil é em 7,62.

[@vezzzzz]

@@cavvieira lol u talking about rifles with the nickname CV lol that's kinda scary🤣

[@cavvieira]

@@vezzzzz Don't fall asleep...

[@jwc00789]

I love that conversion!!! Wish they were still being made and imported.

[@martinlag3234]

That FAL in 5.56 looks like a heavy variant of FNC. Still...love it and want it!

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

I think the FAL Para is one of the best looking rifles ever made. Including this one.

[@peekaboo1575]

I hope we get to see Ian reviewing a 762 Brazilian FAL one day.

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , Ian .

[@drunkensailor6901]

Interesting gun indeed. Love the fal series of guns

[@michaelthomas4890]

I have one of these. Converted to standard configuration. In my experience almost all these were tinkered with, mostly by getting rid of the thumbhole stock and flashier ( even when it wasn't really legal). I saved the parts. It'll be interesting to see what this sells for.

[@felioalmeida7765]

This fal is Brazilian. ESSE FAL É BR HUEHUE AQUI SÓ TEM LOKO. GLÓRIA A DEUSSSSSSS.

[@Gabriel_Santos328]

When a Brazilian veteran has PSTD

[@ovolokokblka7835]

HUEHUE BR. GLÓRIA A DEUSSSSS

[@SirEdubardo]

AHEOOOOO HUEHUEHUEHUE

[@theinformationbomber7102]

absolutely beautiful rifle just stunning no words left to describe it's sheer beauty

[@SS-tr5ru]

These need to be made again

[@Swarm509]

I'd love to see this run at a 2 gun. Pair it with some older kit for a "what if" run if the FAL had stayed in an intermediate cartridge. I expect we all know how it will run, but would still be cool!

[@DJliberal]

I like thumb hole stocks in some applications, but of course you have a point about practicality. Keep up the great videos.

[@BNoakville]

Curved mag on a FAL looks odd but interesting

[@iLLeag7e]

I think it looks cooler tbh

[@sander7165]

@@marksbikeexports5123 they did that so it work not only with blanks

[@jarnorantanen8737]

@@marksbikeexports5123 Oh so how come 2 of mine work perfectly in my metric FN FAL ( to fair I dremeled noselug from inch to a metric size) and its tall enough for me to use as monopod while shooting prone.

[@marksbikeexports5123]

@@jarnorantanen8737 the 7,62mm Bren mags issued to the UK army did not feed live rounds in a SLR reliably as the spring was too weak. l have no idea what your half arsed conscript experiences are.

[@marksbikeexports5123]

@@jarnorantanen8737 .....they didnt did they dickhead, YOU HAD TO FUCKING MODIFY THEM

[@rogerjohnson8707]

I purchased an SAR-4800 Springfield receiver in 7.62 from DSA at some point in the early 90's. Dave told me that the shipment was having all kinds of difficulty clearing customs and that Springfield gave up on their future manufacture. He bought the entire lot at a discount and managed to work out the problems and take delivery. I bought a pristine British parts set for the receiver. Prior to assembly I contacted Springfield and inquired about assembly. They said OK and I drove the 150 miles to Genesco to drop off every thing I had. I had it parkerized instead of paint and picked it up 10 days later. When I got home I found the stock wasn't attached (for legal and tax reasons) but the assembly tool was included. Of my 4 FAL's this is my main shooter.

[@dobypilgrim6160]

Much better. Back in the bad old days I converted several FALs to pre-ban configuration myself. The thumbhole stocks on those are not only ugly, they're uncomfortable to me as well.

[@bobkohl6779]

Loved the real FN Parafal I got to use while working class III. Tons of fun.

[@macchi4288]

Hey Ian, can you make a video about de FARA 83? Is the crown jewel of the argentinian rifles, and very, very rare one

[@davidcronin5689]

Blue collar firearms in Colton California has one with the thumb hole stock. I just held it yesterday

[@dude126]

A FAL that doesn't punch you in the face when you fire it. That's a win, win!

[@SNOUPS4]

Watching Forgotten Weapons auction videos reminds me of the TV show watched by the space station general in the "Alien 4" movie... it's a pretty good feeling to somehow live in this movie's Future nowadays.

[@KevWilOG]

A fascinating custom/conversion that would be even better if offered in this configuration over the counter today.

[@goneutt]

One heckuva conversion.

[@billding7233]

I have one in 5.56, with the thumb hole stock.

[@ratagris21]

The short arm of freedom in 5.56 brought to by Brazil.

[@visionaryfirearmsllc9999]

Unrelated to this video but Ian you should totally do a cocktail list for all the books y'all publish for their respective countries. Would be ballin!

[@JackPlayerBr]

This gun was the start of the development of a native assault rifle by imbel. After several years of evaluation by the Brazilian army the MD97 was deemed unfit for the necessities of the army. So in 2010 imbel launched the IA2 program to replace all FAL rifles. The IA2 is a modern assault rifle chambered in 5.56 and 7.62 and is currently replacing the FAL in all units of the Brazilian army. This article shows the project and the gun in more detail. www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/05/17/imbel-5-56x45mm-ia2-riflecarbine-development-status-report/amp/

[@silvadossantos6803]

"Modern rifle"

[@w.o.v.1033]

You’re absolutely right another thing to add on the practicability is that it takes an A.R. 15 magazine, which that is something that the Ruger mini 14 should take a look at Shirley if Embell can do it rigger conduit otherwise it is another fine firearm that is practicable in a patriots arsenal of choice of platforms 👍 another thing I would like to add is that Springfield also imported or made another FAL, which was called the S a R 48 hopefully you can do a review on that one sometime

[@wesleytownsend8214]

Very cool as usual Mr Ian. Although I have to say that every item you document on this channel is very cool as well. I look forward to your content and I wish you success and all the best to you and yours!

[@AlaskanQueenInExile]

So if this is just a converted FAL doesn't that mean that in theory, you could set it up with some of the more modern aftermarket FAL setups? IE railed upper, handguard, etc? Because now I'm imagining a tacticool 5.56 FAL and it's a spicy image.

[@Machiflores]

Maybe you would be interested in following the fama development. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJjJgaund8uUgK8

[@JackPlayerBr]

The Brazilians are way ahead of you my friend www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/05/17/imbel-5-56x45mm-ia2-riflecarbine-development-status-report/amp/

[@taylorday6244]

I wish you showed us an example of the rounds they fire alongside the gun like a dummy round or something. I know this one is just a 5.56 we all know what that looks like but still it would help for the other guns also.

[@usmctien]

DSA needs to revisit this rifle and produce them...!

[@therabbitcanada]

at Century in Montreal we had cases of non-converted uppers in 5.56, made in Argentina I believe. No sleeves for mag, actually made to fit 5.56 mags. Always wanted to buy one, but they never sold them for some reason while I worked for them

[@Gabriel_Santos328]

You need see the Imbel IA-2, is a insane gun mixed FAL and M4 and they say is a original weapon

[@felioalmeida7765]

And a modernized one, weighs more than a m4, and use abs plastic. One of these guns exploded in hands of a police officer in são Paulo. After this, the Sao Paulo police decides use FN Scar-ls . Good times in the army Pvt 328 from Comando company and service's. Npor não é formação.

[@felioalmeida7765]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pquanX-Nh7xjac0 The video

[@hellhammerCCCP]

I love love love love FAL/HK G3 pattern rifles!

[@Daniel-oc8sx]

There is a modern polymer made version of the MD 97 called IA2 made by IMBEL.

[@eduardobalieiro862]

It really depends on which version, the 7,62 version is based on the fal, but the 5,56 version is its own weapon.

[@aqui1ifer]

Do we know if Imbel still makes 5.56 FALs for the Brazilian Military/civilian market? It’d be cool to import new production MD-97s since, as Ian said, only 700 were originally imported.

[@gabrieldiasmelo]

Yes It does, but now IMBEL it's producing a modernised version of those FAL's called IA2.

[@KillerRedVine]

The FAL is such a heavy gun to have in 556. That would be an interesting gun to shoot.

[@john-paulsilke893]

You won’t need a lead sled to bench fire this gun. Just a couple C-clamps. 😊 It’s Liz day cool though, looks fun.

[@jasonarmstrong5750]

Basically the FNC’s long lost brother from Brazil

[@AlexanderEddy]

Awesome rifle, I bet it's a ton of fun to shoot!

[@BERNARDOALBERGARIA1969]

Soooo cooll. I am from Brazil and these are very popular among the police from various states. Sadly I moved to Portugal and here all we can shoot is a slingshot, provided it has the original rubber.

[@partycat2921]

Best show on television.

[@tonydeaton2890]

I call mine a Spring-Fal. Very rugged, reliable rifle.

[@MagronesBR2]

Monsieur Saive: "*THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO SINCE DAY ONE!*"

[@Moondog66602]

Totally cool Ian

[@Kindjester79]

I think it's a neat gun, would love to see it firing in full auto.

[@rizaradri316]

IMBEL MD are 5.56 variant of FN FAL made in Brazil

[@mean45acp]

Gun Jesus I personally like this sweet baby. I have been looking for one of the SA-4800 .556x45mm rifles since around 92 when I first heard about them. This would fill out 2 spots in my collection. First a FAL in 556. I have about every type of FAL imported into the US from the really bad parts kits to complete select fire samples from every manufacturer. My pride and joy is a LEGITIMATE South African Bush War gun with no markings, actually 2 of them, one with the big hole cut in the mag well and the other without it, both still ha e the ugly yellow brown camo. The other spot for Springfield stuff not made by Springfield. I have always wanted to see a 556 FAL even though I love the FNC. IF this had been made by FNH it would be like having the Holy Grail. Thanks for showing it. It's a PARA conversation too, how bad ass is that?!?!?!

[@moultonlava72]

Did you just mix up the Brazilian and Argentine flags on the thumbnail or is there some connection to Argentina?

[@Barbaroossa]

no connection whatsoever

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Just a mistake on my part - which has now been fixed. Sorry!

[@luiznascimento1474]

We still love you 😂👍

[@luisantolafrancis519]

@@ForgottenWeapons well done Ian..anyone can make mistakes keep up the good work.

[@leonardotavaresdardenne9955]

ian can't even differentiate us from the filthy argies... real sad :(

[@Phomex-or8zc]

DSA needs to start making a modernized 5.56 FAL

[@RexApplegate]

I shot one years ago. Jammed on me a couple times, been a while but I pretty much remember it as an example of why Gene Stoner's platform is charging on and the FAL mostly isn't with its crappier recoil impulse and heavy trigger. But, they're cool in that they're a lot closer to what the FAL engineers had in mind, as opposed to what US government forced it to become.

[@robertkoonce8365]

Personally, I like it. The little extra heft doesn't bother me, and I've always liked the FAL, just never could afford one.

[@charlesinglin]

This kind of brings up something I've wondered about. As I understand it, the prototype of what became the FN FAL was designed for the 7.92x33mm Kurtz cartridge, then adapted for the 7.62 Nato. Did FN or anyone else ever try a FAL in 7.62x39mm? I suppose it would have the same problem as this, being a bit heavy, as well as being too expensive to compete with the SKS and AK.

[@CAPNMAC82]

Sounds like a product Brownell's ought to look at :)

[@marcelorezende7568]

IMBEL adapted these rifles to 5.56mm for police use and these were very popular.

[@cleibealvesteixeirajunior5923]

Ian, you should do the Imbel IA2 next if you can get your hands on one, i ain't gonna be easy, as Imbel is owned by the Brazilian Army and is focusing it's manufacturing efforts on providing rifles to the Army and police forces. The semi-auto version is already available on the civilian market in Brazil, but i don't think they are exporting... The IA2 is basically the next step after the MD series, it's an FAL in 5.56, with a rotating bolt and a polymer construction. I find it amusing how Imbel insists on modernizing what they are used to manufacture instead of coming up with anything new. I mean, they make a double stacked, polymer framed M1911 in .40 S&W...

[@kenhelmers2603]

Pretty cool! Thanks Ian :)

[@WardenWolf]

The SAR-4800: when you want to miss everything you shoot at, now in 5.56.

[@worldtraveler930]

I agree with Ian.

[@jerryjohnsonii4181]

Very Cool FAL in 5.56x45mm !!!!!!!!!!

[@TinCupGamer1991]

If we beg, maybe Imbel will start importing FAL’s again. Because I NEED this really bad. I hate my AR and if I can get an FAL in 5.56, I’d be thrilled.

[@mr.ramixhardbass3331]

Cool weapon, greetings ftom Argentina, hope you have a nice day :)

[@r.daneel.90]

@Robertino Tanos are you an idiot?

[@mr.ramixhardbass3331]

@Robertino Tanos yes i know we are not well, but we are not in a dictatorship, seriously what the fuck man, we had elections a month ago and the opposite party won. Please educate yourself a bit more before spreading random stuff

[@riukimura]

@Robertino Tanos here in Cordoba are pretty cool, where you at?

[@wlewisiii]

This is what I always wanted - a plain FAL in 5.56 rather than the way over powered 7.62.

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

It makes me wonder how a proper Mini-FAL would look like, taking all the homework in how Ruger made their own diminutive version of the M14

[@summerheatpaintball5334]

This will be the fourth gun I’ve hunted for and (hopefully eventually) bought because of Gun Jesus’ videos. My wallet has a heart attack every time I open yourube

[@michaelangelomaimone3181]

I mean, with Beto’s declaration that he’s coming for our ar-15’s and all-47’s I actually started looking at the possibilities of FAL’s and other such rifles in 5.56x45mm

[@knutdergroe9757]

I think it is way easier to hang dumb ass like bento..... Then go though all the other headaches....

[@JackedRado71]

Ah Gun Jesus posts just in time for my morning sit down

[@mr_fnh]

Your daily shit down more likely!

[@jeffie8696]

I used to visit Springfield Armory about 20 years ago quite often. I live about an hour or so away

[@Robin6512]

I sure would love to get my hands on that one.

[@yemum2364]

Bet it would be a very smooth shooting rifle

[@megumiaki2244]

I heard that back to 00s, an US company imported Imbel MD97 style .223 FAL, but now they no longer import these .223 FALs.

[@georgekontalexis8436]

Please make a video about the fx05 xiuhcoatl rifle.

[@TheStraycat74]

love my FN FAL G1SA Sporter, wish I could afford this. I'd love a comparison between this and the M-76 Valmet

[@buckybarns5984]

I don’t understand why they didn’t keep the paddle release, but adapt it to take mini 14 mags. Also to make it less heavy they could just remove the bipod and carry handle. Then just replace grip with a standard AR or AK polymer grip with a polymer FAL stock. This solves some of the weight issue as well as the uselessness of the carry handle, and a more amby mag release.

[@obiwankenobi2749]

I love the fal 50

[@NewEstonia]

Back end of it(collapsing stock, rear sight) looks a lot like Galil has.Same round pipe stock.

[@michaelray4033]

I would consider buying one if they ever come back on the market. FN! Get to work! I want one.

[@mattclements1933]

1:08 Gun Jesus...[ ] which is pretty cool. [Points at the camera for emphasis] Hey, you don't have to convince me!

[@adam3651]

We need to have a dedicated Imbel importer today! Surprised nothing still to this day for a real factory FAL instead of DSA crap