Nature vs Nurture: Behaviorism or Genetics?

[@firouz4296]

I work as an educator and observe children daily. It is obvious to me that we are born as complete and independent humans with our own characteristics and traits (nature) and the society and parents change that (nurture). What influced me the most was Alice Millers book „the drama of the gifted child“

[@sprouts]

Thanks

[@MarkLewis...]

No... we are (demonstrably) born completely dependent, as ignorant and empty blank slates. By a combination of nurture and nature, and over time, we learn and grow characteristics and tendencies. "Traits" are genetic, not heuristic. Eventually, we are able to develop a sense of "Self" and keep the teachings of everyone else we agree with, and discard the rest we don't. We are not individual snowflakes, products of Nurture OR Nature, we are reproduced byproducts of Nurture, Nature, and (eventually) Self. Please stop teaching children!

[@bunzzy9469]

​@@MarkLewis... did you read the original comment correctly because there saying The same thing as you as far as I can tell.

[@MarkLewis...]

@@bunzzy9469 Apparently, you didn't. By what gold medal leap of broken logic is: THEM: "we are born as complete and independent humans with our own characteristics and traits." THE SAME AS: ME: "No... we are (demonstrably) born completely dependent, as ignorant and empty blank slates." Maybe you should reread both comments again.

[@MarkLewis...]

@@bunzzy9469 Oh damn... you must be a teacher too?!

[@robertosantanaperdomo9388]

To me, the fact that first born tend to be better at school is proof of the parent nurturing impact. Raising a 2nd child is nothing alike raising your first. Your experience, your attention, your skills, your approaches... nothing stays the same.

[@sprouts]

Right, that’s on theory

[@Ari-tp3dt]

It depends on the parents, situation, environment because from my experience its the opposite. Especially when different stressors were introduced throughout the life most crumble under all that, some come out stronger. Example would be long-term discrimination, prosecution, ethnic cleansing, police brutality, war, terrorism, death, poverty, starvation, neglect, and lack of education, all this affect people differently. It puts such a mental toll on once ability to function. At the first sign of help people become dependent so much that they cant do anything unless they are being guided daily by someone even though physically they may seem fine to most but internally its chaos and in need of help from professionals. The hardest thing for them is to identify they need help. Again lack of education makes them thing less of themselves if they see a psychologist.

[@distrologic2925]

Actually a lot of things are different, not only the parents. Growing up with a big sibling is very different from growing up with a small one. Big siblings need to figure it all out first, small siblings can learn from their big siblings, but they are also having a hard time competing with them.

[@sarahd1731]

I completely agree

[@fiskekroker]

Another one is that the first born spend more time with adults in the learning process, as where the 2nd born grows up spending more time with another child, wich it also learns from.

[@Disha_R]

I clearly understand this as i have similar experience with my brother in the home . We are so different even though we share same mother and father and same environment.

[@sprouts]

Right? Its so odd!

[@unpopularskyler7494]

Same here, me and my brother are so different, and I have more genes of my aunts and grandparents than my parents

[@Aditya-4_4]

I think the diffrence is perception of those same experiences. Eg, both might have same parents but still thier point of view is different hence their individual experience is different.

[@HereIAm247]

I think nurture can determine how much/in which ways the natural potential is expressed. Everyone is born with a different maximum potential. But how you live your life will very much impact how close you get to that maximum potential. As well as the opportunities, teachers and resources that are available to you. Most people rarely gets close to their max potential. Athlethes are a good example of this. Sure, they have the genetics too. But if they had a 'normal' workout routine, they could likely be beaten by someone with 'bad' genetics, but the workout routine of an athlete. Of course, they also pay the price by dedicating a lot of their time and effort, and missing other social opportunities to work out. Of course some things are easier to impact than others. But I think it have a lot more to say than people realise.

[@jamesfranco9961]

Nicely said, you basically touched on what epigenetics are.

[@randomcat3053]

Been thinkng about this for years (having a brother, a year younger than me). Same geenes, same upbringing, yet couldn't be more different. Until i came across a study, where groups of 6 rats were put in envirenments, where some work needed to be done, to get food. And every time the same social structure emerged (1 king, 2 soldiers, 2 beggars and 1 rebbel). Even when the rats were from the same social group (6 kings lets say) , the quickly adapted to recreate that structure. That got me thinking: maybe we don't just do, what we like to do or are talented in doing. Instead we find social roles (within our capibility spectrum ofcource), not jet sufficiantly occupied by others and grow within those roles. That would explain the higher iq in older siblings. The smart-role is occopied so the younger siblings dont bother growing that particular skill, instead finding an other role in which they have a chance at beeing Nr.1 . That in tern makes this role/skills unintersting for the older sibling. Beeing allmost 40 now I can safely say: my brother is nether less intelegent nor less talented than me. He just never had any interst in school or musik until moving out. I on the other hand never bothered with mechanics or team sports during that time. Yet I actualy like playing basketball and fixing small mechanisms, which i only fou d out in the last couple years. In a funny twist, spending allmost two decades apert made me and my brother more alike, than growing up in the same household.

[@Annisa_Kacang]

I’m 1 of 6 and we are all so different. We were definitely treated slightly different and I think a lot has to do with nurture 💙 Annisa

[@sprouts]

Nature vs nurture, genes or upbringing? Join us on patreon.com/sprouts to make more videos about these questions.

[@pyeitme508]

Og

[@ansleywimer9873]

80% upbringing. We were not born knowing everything, and we need human beings to give us an understanding of the world.

[@HeathSawyerisHeheboy]

The crayfish study was interesting. I wonder if there was correlation between social interactions of crayfish, growth, activity and death? John Hattie's research finding on the feedback effect as a measurable positive influencer for learning springs to mind. Perhaps there was a great deal happening in that crayfish tank. It's a shame we can't measure effects on individuals.

[@erwinlommer197]

As a layman I'm not sure how representative crayfish studies can even be about humans. After all earlier in the video it was already established that height and iq have strong correlation with genes in humans. But with crayfish not even those strongest correlations were found. Sounds to me more like the result of that study is that crayfish are not similarly affected by nature and nurture as humans.

[@jamithornburg4571]

Woww this shit is COMPLEX BRAVO!!

[@brendamorales5179]

We are very complex. I think that we could be so smart but environment as well as nurture could make a little difference. I have noticed it among my brothers but also with my cousins, etc. We all are smart but what we do with our intelligence is another question. Some of us had discipline to study and have good notes; but we were the less.

[@sprouts]

Yes. So complex

[@distrologic2925]

These models are not nearly complex enough. Think of all the things that shaped your life, and you as a person. What kinds of people your parents were, did they get divorced? Did one of them die? Did you have siblings, were you a migrant? What was your school like, did you do sports, how did you spend your free time, what toys did you play with? What tv shows did you watch? What books were in your parents shelf? All of those things form the experience and body of a child.

[@soulfuzz368]

This is true. It is also true that genes play a role in every one of those examples.

[@bethblas1822]

There is evidence to suggest that certain genetic variations have been associated with cognitive abilities. As well as the environment in which a person grows up can significantly impact their cognitive development. Factors such as access to education, socioeconomic status, parental involvement, and cultural influences all play a role.

[@Ali-pg5nq]

Five feet eight inches is equal to 172.7cm 1foot=30cm 1inch=2.54 12 inches =1foot

[@Sarah-JaneR32]

The nature v nurture thing, i get this a lot at mental health but in my case it's more to do with my thinking / reality. I was diagnosed autistic 5 years ago but I also had a very severe illnes when a child, for years, so it's still being debated if it's nature or nurture as to my ' problems ' in how I think and see things. thanks for the video

[@sprouts]

And thanks for your comment. It's so complex...

[@immaconcepcionsagrada1411]

hello sir.. i am one of your subscriber. always watching your updated videos

[@sprouts]

Thanks and very welcome Imma!

[@JoshuaTheGreat211]

Nature gives the potential...Nurture the realisation of that potential... Epigenetics is a great example... Nature determines what genes you have and Nurture determines what genes get expressed

[@jeffreywang7665]

My cousin, Vincent, explained a lot about this kind of stuff in an auntie’s house!

[@krishnantampi5665]

Nature and nurture plays that's a brief description. 😊

[@cartoonmania327]

Hi iam Ehtisham Manzoor Assistant professor of Education Excellent video helped me a lot in preparing my lecture.

[@rawbacon]

Different for different people.........Although my Brother only lived to 22 it was obvious by then that he had a lot of the same personality as my Father and I'm certain it was passed on genetically........Unlike Fathers and Sons that get along because they have the same traits they tended to clash because they both had the same negative traits.

[@yandi3462]

Well for what I saw in this video, I understood that some people are born with these personality and inteligence to get good grades in school and the difference is that one is not born knowing the things but we can practice and improve on them. For example , I have my brother that he doesn't have the necesity to study for an exam. When he was little, he could capture the things faster than me or even though he could solve math problems without having to use the calculator. I think that comes from our ability or genes of ourselves.

[@MPM6785ChitChat]

Identical twins separated at birth is an interesting take on things.

[@taylortimbrook2030]

I do think nurture is important for things like mental health, but for foods we like and mental disorders are genetic.. I think it's probably a 45% nurture to 55% nature. Js yeah your kid might have depression sure, but if you teach them to deal with it well, things like validating their feelings and working together with them there way less likely to unalive than an abuse victim prone to depression. The topic is very interesting tho. My opinion Nurture: mental health and how well you manage your feelings for the most part. Nature: anything inherited (bipolar, schizophrenia, autism, adhd, depression, anxiety, ect) your food preferences, allergies, so on and so forth.

[@karlacusi8654]

This video provides a fascinating exploration of the age-old nature vs. nurture debate, delving into what science truly knows about the complex interplay between genetics and environment in shaping human behavior.

[@sprouts]

True. Thank you :)

[@gabymonserrate1292]

In my own opinion about this particular topic Nature Vs Nurture ? Both are so different even though they share same parents and same environment. Genius are both born and made influenced by both genetic and environmental factors. Parents can nurture genius by identifying children’s potential encouraging creativity, listening , curiosity and providing a nurturing environment. Some people are born with these personality and intelligence for example to get a good grades in school and the difference is that one is not born knowing the things but they can practice and improve themselves.

[@julianzapatarojas2502]

excellent explanation about the origin of the savants

[@ArathiJNair]

So.. what is the answer 🤔🤔?? May be each trait is influenced by different factors; some more of nature and some of nurture. Which combines to give a certain outcome

[@andy4905]

It's obvious to me, you get born with a personality type. Already seen it in both my children. One was born high strung and easily frustrated. Second calm and rarely upset.

[@Max_m]

I maintain we are 70% nature, 30% nurture. The 30% is simply the ‘nurture’ impact on the already present 70%.

[@hereigoagain5050]

Love how Sprouts sneaks statistics into our noggins without our permission.

[@angelawatson1594]

I am a mother of identical twin boys. Its a fascinating concept.

[@nikitasteer2481]

Me😕...before watching the video to help with my assignment questions...Me🤔✍…after watching the video...Thank you so much for simplifying the concept because its a bit confusing and my ADHD does not help with reading content as such

[@sprouts]

Hey, keep learning. Much love :)

[@loveandlight5986]

Hence 33k 3 months. The quality 💗

[@Disatergame]

I think it's both too. Because the environment does effect the person attitude, actions and the brain is also a factor because there different types of brains

[@MarkLewis...]

The result of poor grades are almost always directly proportional to the efforts of the teacher AND the student, collectively. If either one, (or both) puts forth a poor effort, only a poor result can and will be achieved. The bad teacher usually still keeps their job, and the bad student... usually pays for it the rest of their life.

[@theBear89451]

Yes, but the split is not 50/50. Some studies have shown 90/10.

[@MarkLewis...]

@theBear89451 This is subjectively minimizing the acknowledged point. Your biased redirecting finger pointing does nothing to solve the very real problem you admit exists. Statistical blame is the narrative the guilty push. Teacher, right?

[@samickill9730]

Another great video

[@rollin19]

Nature vs Nuture is a conflict within one's self of what people will think of them if they do something or to listen to someone and to live eactly by their rules. In reality our brains are wired differently. Some people are more empathic whiles othera are not,it never crosses their mind,some people act out from how they were raised others act out based ooff of biological factors,not all brains are made the same. Some are more fearless than others also,while many are fearful,also what we put into our bodies can dictate how our brain will function.

[@Skateforlifelad]

Intelligence and the will to learn I believe can correct behavior that's inherented either by nature or nuture

[@AdrianAshdown]

What if nurture expands beyond parents to include the social environment as a whole? The way relationships build and how the community interacts with you could have an effect on your growth. This may provide explanation for the differing ways the fish developed.

[@vaggo9611]

one of my favorite channels

[@TheYafaShow]

Ever hear the joke about gaslighting? No? Yes you have. I posted it on this sub almost a week ago and you liked it. I know you did, I saw you do it. I had the notification and everything. In fact, your friend told me and you the joke the day before I posted it here. He may not remember, but I do, and you were there, you heard it, because you laughed.

[@bboyneon92]

Ever since I began studying psychology, I always thought of about the correlation between the two entities. But, as I watch this video. I have this thought about nurture being an act of nature itself isn't it? Why separate the two?

[@AlexanderLayko]

Where does "free will" come into play? 🤔

[@a.zakaria5143]

Me being solitude because since I'm in elementary school i see my friends become stupid when they got first love and i see in many story love is a root for starting a war. I m thinking since elementary school not just playing school. Maybe that happend because the crayfish brain grow differents and some have more complex

[@nassimasidiali8559]

Ooooo thnx for this instructif information

[@sprouts]

Most welcome 😊

[@13thravenpurple94]

Great work 🥳🥳🥳 Thank you 💜💜💜

[@shanzesalman5606]

do these videos have transcriptions?

[@uniquequeen5432]

1.53 *The "Dyslexia" itself proved me dyslexic*

[@Rimsha89017]

Where do you get all this information? Do you research or do surveys.

[@sprouts]

Research

[@mariemac5347]

Fascinating! Thanks

[@shanuguleria6572]

We can't just say that same environment bcs with time like small fraction of second,minute etc things change and that small change makes a unique and different thing

[@sprouts]

Exactly

[@Sasoripwns]

I couldn't even hear the music lol

[@davidnorman6348]

If someone has difficulties spelling because they didn't get support when they were young, then it's not dyslexia.

[@ljkoh20052000able]

On the contrary, nurture is still covered by the health of the sperm or the ovum of the parents way before fertilization since behavioral patterns are formed on how well the future parents took care of their bodies.

[@rustyreview]

If I got an E in school my parents would kill me. 😛

[@ArathiJNair]

Instead of thinking if nature or nurture right?😝

[@aboyisagvn888]

No because why did I read the "Lysdexia" and understand that spelling

[@chelsea-bz1nn]

this is an opinion and not a defined grrrr this is the only way - I wont get butthurt if ppl disagree id love to FREINDLY debate my points as I ain't greatest at my first point so questions welcome ^^ with nature vs nurture i feel like neither should be pitted against each other but coincide with each other. look at dogs for example, you can train out breed norms such as dobermann distrust of strangers can be mitigated by proper socialisation or a german shepherds tendency to bark at suspected intruders can be trained out and a pitbulls dog aggression as bred for fighting and whatnot can also be trained via proper socialisation (not saying these are ALWAYS the case but often are ^^) but also nature cant't be fought either so a recent one I saw I think was a working type german shepherd, this dogs mother was prone to food aggression and the father became extremely aggressive after hitting sexual maturity - the owner of the pup was not originally aware of the poor breeding - and the owner mitigated proper and very good training attempts and as a puppy and the pup was doing very well, but as the pup hit sexual maturity it began to develop severe food aggression no matter how much the owner tried to fix it. the pup then became unusually aggressive snapping at random points and even at the air or itself. she took it to the vet as it seemed like canine distemper but the results were repeatedly negative and she could not save this dog no matter how hard they trained and she had to put the dog down as it became fearful and aggressive seemingly out of nowhere and this is where she found out the parents tendencies ^^ my own dogs were 2 dobermans one was an absolute sweetheart and the other was boisterous and showing dominant and aggressive tendencies and even through raised in the same environment their personalities were opposite. we sold the more aggressive pup to a home without dogs as he was showing dog aggression while the other remained as sweet as anything. the aggressive pup went on to be muzzled in public and does bite training and exercises with the bite suits and sleeves and became much easier to handle but could never be completely trusted but the other one we kept was slowly trained more and more when my stepdad was able to get his hands on him (not a nice person) consistently praised and trained to be more and more aggressive and eventually he got what he wanted because he snapped at our much smaller french bulldog (she wasn't severely hurt only a cut) but we sold him to a loving home and he went back to that happy friendly pup just an opinion and story so of course I wont get but hurt of disagreement

[@hjtam88]

Crayfish experiment = All have identical genes, All put under the identical environment, and yet all behave very differently, In other words, neither nurture nor nature

[@bingeable3]

Nice video 😊

[@sprouts]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@utkarshunscripted7848]

Variation due to domestication

[@blueovis]

Can you do batman effect 'cause I have a hard time understanding the concept 😭

[@flynig1]

Perhaps the crayfish’s container and distance away from the other subject habitat.

[@Nature-Nat]

nature is greater

[@mohomadmadil6901]

What's this software ❤️?

[@sprouts]

human ;)

[@guangxidavidliu]

Simple answer: the simpler the DNA sequences are, the easier to genetic mutations to show.

[@SCHAFERwatches]

Why don’t you nurture yourself? Why don’t you select yourself?

[@98nfp]

*watched*

[@artattackbysoumya]

Nice video my friend

[@sprouts]

Thanks 🙏

[@samehedi]

the video ended when it got interesting... this.. this is an ad

[@ArathiJNair]

Yes

[@samehedi]

to whomever hearted my comment. this was not a compliment

[@paresaquadir8568]

​@@samehedilol

[@freesk8]

Nice!

[@sprouts]

Thanks

[@FestasAlegriaeventosproducoes]

VERY WELL

[@rageraptor7127]

How did a cray fish get a random mutation that allowed it to be a sexual?

[@sprouts]

Good question

[@workinprogress3609]

My son had a verbal setback at around 18 months. He now has a mild case of asperger's. I don't think it was nature or nurture. It had more to do with medical procedures that I had to put him through to get him in daycare.

[@UnknownUser-by4le]

Vaccines

[@goldenhoneybee8128]

Exactly. Brain swelling is a common side effect during prime brain development of our people....the first 2 years of life

[@franceblack8521]

Yes,but nurture I think have the biggest impact than nature.

[@rawdasalmataman7908]

In my opinion nature beats nuture. Everyone in nature are born good and kind however nurture can make them bad and evil but I believe that people are capable of change and return to their nature. But I sometimes think that nurture can really change a person and Bury his / her nature. So I don't know which is better nature 9r nurture. What I think is stronger than nature and nurture is a person 's will. When it comes to talent and hardwork I mean when it comes to a person 's passion. I think talent ( nature )is stronger. Hardwork does pay off but does it make you better than the people who were born with talent? No.

[@catherinebirch2399]

I think it's the other way round. Humans are born selfish and cruel. Good parenting can make them behave better.

[@rawdasalmataman7908]

@@catherinebirch2399 No. I was told people are born good and bad people become who they are due to their nuture if it is getting spoiled or have a hard life. I personally see it that people aren't born bad or good when they are born Not everything is black and white there is grey but whether people are born good or not good or bad ( I mean in between) it doesn't matter because it just matters who you become. I do think parenting effects who the person becomes but it also depends on the environment. It is not like some people ate born Devils and parents make them become angels. I don't believe people are born bad but what the parents do is not a child from becoming selfish and cruel. I think people hurt each other intentionally or unintentionally That is how life goes. As long people live separately from one another there will be suffering.

[@nl7247]

It’s all daddy’s fault 😂❤

[@emmaz3948]

respect the efforts and learnt a lot but the animation is very distractive.

[@jameseldridge3445]

The real question is which belief is more appealing to the masses? Lol

[@saritamcghee7370]

With me and my siblings, I'm the middle child and the smartest of the 3. With my children, my middle son who's personality is just like mine is also the smartest. Hmmmmmm....

[@MarakanaCacak1989]

Do you know any examples of evil parents having good kids ? Like dictators, or some serial killers kids happen to grow up to be doctors, and invent cure for something, something in that sense..?

[@penajasminemariselaj.7668]

haha nandito nanaman ako

[@pyeitme508]

Wow

[@ApatheticApologies]

This is pretty badly described tbh

[@sprouts]

What do u mean?

[@DG-fs1pq]

A combination of both is more likely, but I am leaning toward nurture for learned traits. As for Darwin, we know he was a racist and should not be taken seriously in this arena.

[@charlesxavier3489]

Facts

[@AustinScienceNetwork-ne5md]

Neither Charles Darwin nor Alfred Wallace knew about genes....had they been contacted by Gregor Mendel. they would have. I stopped listening to this video after this erroneous claim.

[@Njordin2010]

Could you explain in a video why women do contribute such small amounts to discoveries / scientific progress while being very well represented in numbers and paid scientific jobs? They must have similar IQ? Hot topic i know but facts are facts. (i´m not a native speaker, sorry for that wording that may seem offensive. i´m only talking about data discrepancies)

[@grapeshott]

Women are well represented in STEM jobs? I think most of the data will disagree.

[@Njordin2010]

@@grapeshott in science overall. I know the recent data, probably all of it and i know what you mean. Even if you odd certain biases out there is still a large trend for women not being able / not want to do scientific work in certain areas. Since there is a biological / psychological factor to it, i'd like to know more about that and how much biology contributes per se. It seems like thats a huge factor.

[@juliak8684]

women actually contribute a lot to scientific discoveries and always have. they just never got the credit. your statement is ignoring the system we live in

[@Njordin2010]

@@juliak8684 as i said these biases are already counted in. I don't want this to get political. There is a biological factor and it is at least as huge as the psychological/social/political and i'd like to learn more about that. Women excel mostly in soft science while men fare better in hard science. Why is that?

[@sprouts]

It's an interesting topic. Regardless of the data. Most big scientific discovers have happened many decades ago, often because it takes us so long to understand how important someones discovery actually is. Now 100 years ago, there were very few women in science or any leadership position really. I think that explains a lot.

[@shanto44422]

😊💫💗

[@Fatb0ybadb0y]

IQ is 75-80% genetic.