Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game Rules Manual (2024) Review - War of the Rohirrim SBG

[@Jedi.Bricks]

brilliant breakdown mate!

[@SpruesAndBrews]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!!

[@Jedi.Bricks]

@@SpruesAndBrews @ a lot of really valuable insight. I’m coming back after a few years out so this is exactly what I needed. Hope it does well and the channel grows 🧙‍♂️🫡

[@thomassaxon8254]

I'm not sure how roll 2d6, add courage value, does it equal 10+, was particularly difficult to remember tbh. But to each their own.

[@sebastiencarrieres8825]

Not difficult per se, but I would say the new way is easier to comprehend. I would say it takes a new player 10 seconds to grasp instead of 20...

[@SpruesAndBrews]

Having a stat of 6 and needing to roll a 4+ isn't quite as intuitive as just having a value of 4+ on the stat line though!

[@mabinogion7023]

Nice summary. I like the rules changes but the army lists will be building is a shambles because the armies of lists are really a different movie focused thematic idea as opposed to actual lists.

[@Redtecho]

Not happy about that. I want my soup cause I like using my models.

[@AndrewMcColl]

The Legions aren't limited to the movies. When the changed was first announced they mentioned they'd drawn inspiration from the books as well (because they have the rights for both). Yeah, it's a pain if you've got a non-standard soup list packed with tricks that keep your opponent on the back foot, but I would counter by saying the game was always meant to be played this way. In the Filmdeg interview with Rick Priestly he mentioned how all of the initial design had to be approved by the Tolkien Estate rights holders to ensure it accurately depicted what was in the movies (as that's what the initial license was for). Also, remember that what's in the rulebook is only ever a suggestion outside of official events and the like. If you and a friend want to have a battle where the Dwarfs of Khazad Dum come to the rescue of Minis Tirith as they battle all nine Nazgul, then go for it.

[@ajtame]

Was disappointedd to see the lotr army rule book sell out on GW, IMO a rulebook should never sell out and it's a huge detriment to having rules printed in books anyway (as a 40k player I've wanted codex's abolished for years).

[@star_wars_miniatures]

Unfortunately they didn’t print enough! 😅 independent stockists have only been sent a tiny amount of books to fulfill pre-orders so there’s hundreds of customers that have to wait, even though they put their order in on the day 😢😢

[@syd4890]

The comment on list building is bs mate sorry to say. GW could totally appeal to both narrative and tournament style players. Why not have Narrative List Building PLUS Open List Building which could literally be a one page summary "if you want an all out war build use the units that have same region/faction keyword." Let players decide HOW they want to play and not decixe for them.

[@SpruesAndBrews]

I suspect it's out of Games Workshops hands and is stipulated by the new Middle-Earth IP owners, who i suspect want no "stream crossing"

[@Aftar2]

As OP said - probably licencing stuf and they NEED to force thematic army building, but they gave you full faction rosters to "check the rules . Now is matter of checking intelligence test by community just to allow building armies. Sadly at the start most of people failed it, but there is a lot of time to guide them.

[@ChickenIandlEggs]

I used to playtest for GW's Specialist Games and can confirm that was exactly how they described not crossing over distinct systems. It was a big deal then and probably is still now.

[@Aftar2]

There are point and "faction" list with points, dont know why people pushing for only using army list instead of full faction just because of one sentence.