Squale 1545 30 Atmos Blue/Red GMT & Steinhart Ocean 39 Vintage GMT Premium Blue/Red Double Review

[@silverlakeas]

Steinhart. Great watch & I love this particular blue/orangy red combo.

[@abbath1586]

I just received my Steinhart yesterday and I have to say that it is very nice looking, feels good and well built for the price. I'm shocked with what you get for the price and personally, I love the darker blue and lighter red combo. I bought the jubilee as well and I do wish it was polished, but it still feels really good to wear and super easy to size and switch out. All in all, I think its great for the price and you really can't go wrong.

[@khronokraze]

it's a great watch. still wearing right now as I'm writing.i don't mind that jubilee has no high-polish other than the sides. the watch itself is mostly brushed and not that flashy, so I think it works and helps to make it feel more tool than blingy unlike the more modern Rolex gmt master 2s. sort of why i think my other Pepsi GMT watch, the squale, works better with the high-polish center links of its jubilee Enjoy it!

[@jazzman5598]

I LOVE my new Ocean 39 Vintage. My first high beat, my first GMT. I am really happy. Apparently, it is an homage to the original Rolex GMT Master. No crown guards etc. I must say, I wish it had a Cyclops, :-(. I think I could buy 10 or 15 of these Swiss watches for the price of one Rolex. I just do not, nor do I ever anticipate having in the future, the kind of money a Rolex runs. I am SO blessed to have such a dream watch as my new Steinhart. BTW, I have a question: (Time to ask the Scientist!) My Steinhart runs about 10 seconds a day fast. I saw on another channel that the ETA 2893-2 has daily slop allowed as between 7 seconds a day slow and up to 20 seconds a day fast was within spec for this non certified movement. Does that ring about true to y’all? Thanks a million! GBU

[@Mark-sd7fc]

I’m wearing my Steinhart O V red right now , I love it and this GMT will be here in a couple days, so after over a year do ya have any things to say about the GMT?

[@khronokraze]

I have sold it a while ago, so, can't say experience for over a year. It's a solid watch in buildand design. But, ultimately didn't feel compelled to keep it.

[@Mark-sd7fc]

@@khronokraze thanks for the fast response I’ve always liked the look of the gmt so I ordered one I just wonder if it’s gonna feel too fancy for me I love my seiko divers and my Steinhart o v red because they feel and look like tool watches. Thank again for responding have a good winter and really man , stay safe , wash your hands and wear a mask 😷

[@jazzman5598]

Fine, in depth vid! I would truly enjoy seeing more of the case back as well.........just a watch nerd 😜

[@Neverokful]

Both very nice watches for the money but I feel 39mm is the sweet spot. If they did a gloss dial then it would make a huge difference to the look and add real depth. I am not a fan of the matte dials. Glad neither ship with cyclops. Great fun for such a reasonable outlay.

[@ForeverUnknowing]

I would keep both of these. I think they are different enough. Same movement, both Pepsi GMTs, both on Jubilee style bracelets, and that's really where it ends, IMO. The Steinhart gives off a way more vintage vibe (as intended), whereas the Squale has more of a modern feel. Both great watches. I'd go with the Steinhart if I could only have one.

[@khronokraze]

I did end up selling both of them.

[@khronokraze]

Fyi, I might have kept the squale had the lume application ohln the handset not been so weak, the dial wasn't that good either, but the handset was the worst and faded fastest compared to the dial indices. But, the ceramic bezel was very good lume. However, not much point if no handset to see in dark and reference time. The Ocean 39 was a near keeper, but after some heavy thought and examination, the colors didn't work for me. Bezel too dark and dull, the dial with faux patina overdone and too even applied. I don't mind there tone, but it didn't make sense the printed text is exact same color as the faux patina lume. They should be different as they are not the same paint material. It just looked too clean and everywhere, looked a bit too artificial as a result. There should be difference in color, even slightly, at least between the lume and printed text/logo on dial. Just my humble opinion.

[@zachscheel3784]

Really unfortunate, I love the vintage but that lug to lug seems so much longer than it is because of the barely curved lugs...why release a 39mm version with lugs to serve the opposite purpose

[@1SaG]

That's what I thought about the 42mm ... until I had it on my wrist. Looks just fine to me - and to everyone I asked. The 39mm OTOH should suit guys (and girls) with wrists quite a bit smaller than mine just fine. Mine are 17cm (~6.8 inches). I now own 2 42mm Steinharts and the 39mm Vintage GMT model shown in this video. My point is: Don't judge any watch by pictures and videos alone. They can be pretty misleading. The real test is to have the watch in your hands and on your wrist.

[@jazzman5598]

I just got the Vintage......wrist has been rebuilt so super thin. Watch looks great and sits well on my wrist. Really fine watch.

[@BhBraaq]

I love the Steinhart, definitely comes down to taste but love the classic 39 mm and the vintage look.

[@patricj951]

Thanks for review! I try to decide between Steinhart and Squale. According to what I read and heard so far, it seems that the strongest criticism against Steinhart is too straight lugs while Squale has bad lume. Does not seem as very difficult issues to solve.

[@khronokraze]

The lugs never bothered me on the Steinhart. At 39mm they sit fine on my sub-7" wrist. If you were to talk about the Ocean One with 42mm case, that's another matter. Overall, Steinhart quality has never disappointed me. Squale... With as much history in dive watch making as it supposedly has, I don't get why they can't do better lume? idk, for me , there's no excuse a dive watch doesn't have very good lume.

[@AcmeRocket]

nice review! just ordered the same steinhart vintage. cant do ~$15k+ for a pepsi- this looks great.

[@relosapulso]

same here haha, i'd buy a car

[@dougp.6108]

Enjoyed the video. Tough choice, both beautiful watches by great companies. The Steinhart vintage is a little to washed out for me so I bought the 39 GMT Pepsi with jubilee and love it. Plus the blue matches the red better on the Steinhart. I prefer 40mm so I just received in the mail today the Squale black classic diver and think it is perfect (for me). You do a great job in covering everything but maybe try to shorten the video to no more than 20-25 minutes. Looking forward to your next video.

[@khronokraze]

thanks for watching and enjoy your watches. yes, it is a difficult choice between the two. they moth have merits. I may keep both, lol.

[@kylestewart4444]

Aluminum bezels just look better than ceramic in my opinion. That flat, toyish blue that we see on the Batman and most other blue ceramic models from most manufacturers doesn’t look nearly as good as, for example, a black bay with a blue aluminum bezel. The way the matte aluminum diffuses light rather than having that glossy reflective appearance and the depth of color you can achieve with aluminum just makes it superior in my opinion, at least aesthetically. Obviously the durability of ceramic is lightyears better than aluminum but if you take pretty good care of your watches and you don’t carelessly slam your wrist into door jambs, walls, etc, an aluminum bezel works just fine. And if you do happen to scratch the hell out of your aluminum bezel, they’re pretty simple and cheap to replace.

[@khronokraze]

I generally prefer aluminum or steel bezel inserts over ceramic. but, I am open to ceramic for different look on certain watches.

[@nachovalenti]

Kyle Stewart I agree and in addition to everything you mention,over time the wear of the aluminum gives more character to the watch in my opinion.

[@justanotherprouddad1391]

I'd be interested in buying the Steinhart if you decide to sell it. I am brand new to watches and this caught my attention, but both are very good looking watches!

[@khronokraze]

thanks for watching. I'm still not sure which I will keep or maybe even end up keeping both. they are both very nice in their own ways. will let you know. since watch is so new, at best at this time I'd sell for $750 + shipping. that's nearly the same cost as Gnomon without the jubilee option which is an additional option almost $100 more. something to think about and what to expect if I sell the steinhart soon. thanks.

[@michimadiforever1458]

The reason why the hands on the squally doesn’t reach the edge is because they went with an oversized case in relationship to the hands, it does look more like the Rolex GMT if you’re going for that sometimes the forced patina that they put on the indices to make it look like it’s aged starts to get old on the wearer.. after owning it a while, they would prefer the white indices… these watches are not precise for time anyway, but really are just for jewelry and an idea of the time, so it doesn’t matter about precision hand, reaching the indices. The tan paint to make it look old thing is a fad to look vintage. I still love both watches and would like to own both.

[@garyk8285]

I'm just thinking, these days, with price hikes... Is the Seiko Sumo Pepsi now the bext pepsi original design to invest in? You can still find them for around US500... and cheaper than SKX. I know its a big watch, but it wears more like a 42mm, especially if you look at the dial real estate, and measure bezel tip to bezel tip which is the true measurement if you conside the watch optics. I know its again a little against the 39-41mm trend at the moment with the vintage-sphere taking over, but these are all fads, and they come go longer term. I think its the best design now for originality and price at the moment. Plus it has enough cult followers. The above models are nice, but are very much homages...

[@khronokraze]

I acknowledge the sumos design and popularity to some. But, for me, I just felt it visually looks a little bloated. And, there were some design details I never fell in love with such as the dial and handset as well as the bezel insert font for the numbers. But, in terms of original Pepsi diver design, I suppose it might be.

[@Thee_Finger]

Thanks for the vid, very good job getting all the details in. Wish more people would spend time like this showing all spects of their watches. It’s a big help for those of us who are interested. Also, lug to lug lungth doesn’t seem bad, althought the lack of lug curve is little concerning on the Steinhart. I still ordered one today, and I’m hopeful it will fit my flat 7.25” wrist OK. I actually like that retro diver case shape visually, hope it sits well enough.

[@khronokraze]

The lugs are no big deal. Because your wrist is larger than mine, it should be even less of an issue. Overall, they are well built, look great, and comfortable to wear. Great taper on the bracelet, too.

[@Thee_Finger]

Khrono Kraze Thanks again. Also for anyone else complaining about lug-to-lug... my Rolex 214270 Explorer is 39mm and is actually 1mm longer lug-to-lug. Granted, the lugs curve/sweep down much more... but the number of 47mm itself is not bad for a 39mm watch!

[@gregalonzo747]

For me, it is an easy decision. Keep the Squale. 😀

[@khronokraze]

I would have kept the square bit there lume was too disappointing. I did eventually sell both.

[@carlopaglialunga3965]

Thanks for the review !... I too cant make up my mind between the two, perhaps if you want the closer look to the Rolex Homage then Squale is the way to go. Personally which ever has the better Movement then I would go for that .... I have the New Steinhart Ocean 39mm 500 GMT Batman version with the Oyster bracelet loving it !!!.and that's my Choice !.. Thanks !

[@khronokraze]

I also had the 39 GMT 500 premium. look at my previous video review of it. I really liked it, but my example had the crappiest stiffest bezel ever so I sold it. anyways, these are both Rolex homages, pretty close to the inspired references with just some subtle differences. So, good either way. I will see what I end up keeping. thanks for watching. And, they all have the same ETA 2893-2 GMT elabore grade movement, so movement-wise they are equal.

[@mhsvz6735]

Steinhart is the keeper. More classic and vintage looking.

[@bifflee3603]

The squale looks like my parnis where as the Steinhart has its own looks despite being a homage.

[@sweoff]

You do a review against the new Stienhart watch that has the new ceramic bezel

[@nesam.2998]

Thanks for the review. But it didn't solve my dilemma. My wrist size is on the shadow zone (flat 7 inch). Definitely like more Steinhart's vintage vibe and execution but afraid it will be to small for my preference (my smolest size up to now is 41mm - Sinn 103, others watches is 42). Know about flat lugs etc. but would like to have chance and try it. Ahh, dilemma... It could be very expensive tray. Pepsi will be my fourth watch which wll be last acquisition for some time

[@khronokraze]

hmm. don't know what to tell you? sounds like you're accustomed to somewhat larger case sizes. the 39 steinhart might be perceived as a little small for you. but, 7" is generally a good mid range for many watches to wear well on. I think it's a matter of taking the time to get acclimated to a smaller case size and then it may not seem that small anymore. alternatively, steinhart has their ocean one watches in 42mm. the other watch I used to own which is maybe as close to this one was the Steinhart Ocean One Dual Time Vintage GMT Premium. it has an antique silver dial instead, not the bezel is move aged Pepsi insert, thinner bezel i general, box sapphire crystal, and a nice oversized crown with no crown guards.

[@user-qs7dp6yb2x]

Thanks for the video, man. It was nice to see them sbs and hear first hand experience

[@khronokraze]

thanks for watching.i figure these 2 might be most popular pepsi gmt style homage watches currently so it might be helpful to see both sep and together. Of course, these are my examples and my experiences, others may vary, but at least it's another video and pov experience that might help feel out which one is right for you or whoever.

[@nunocastro1810]

Great video!! Thank you!! I am planing to buy Steinhart Ocean 39 GMT.2 two-tone CHOCOLATE Diver Watch (jubilee strap 5 links with 3 links gold colour pvd-coated) for my 50 years anniversary but I can not find a good review about this watch. I've never bought a gold tone watch and I'm worried about that gold pvd-coated 3 links may have problems in the future and lose the gold tone, the same with the bezel that is aluminum brown/gold (not ceramic that I will prefer). In your watch knowledge what do you do you think about this model? It will be a good choice or maybe better go for another model? Do you see any weaknesses in this model? Thank you in advance.

[@khronokraze]

Well, I've not a lot of experience with gold plated watches. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. The Steinharts are well made and relatively inexpensive. By the time it may wear out the plating, I think either you may not care accept it for it's long use and well-used appearance. Or, find it's time to buy a new watch. If it worries you so much, then don't buy anything plated. Or, see if maybe they may have a special hardness coating applied to prolong the longevity of the finishing. Either save and spend top dollar for solid gold components. Or, avoid all together and just get stainless steel. And, get a ceramic bezel instead of an aluminum or steel one. There are SO many choices out there these days at all price ranges.

[@nunocastro1810]

​@@khronokraze Thank you very much for your attention and quick response. You help me to clarify my ideas about purchase it or not. Best regards!

[@khronokraze]

@nunocastro1810 just threw in my 2 cents of thoughts. Hope it was of some informative or experiential value to you

[@akarexx0718]

The squale bezel looks sick!

[@mikevandenheuvel9106]

Witch one hugs your wrist the best? I have a 6.5inch wrist.

[@khronokraze]

Both are fine. The Squale has better case shape namely due to the lug profile. Curves down more. The Steinhart, as you may know from other reviewers, has straighter lugs. There will likely be a slight gap between wrist and lugs. It's never really been a problem for me as the lug to lug is relatively short and it is still a comfortable watch to wear. The gap is only noticeably at certain angles. Otherwise, it seems to look and feel fine on wrist.

[@johnblackwood4369]

will be a regular GMT 39 with a ceramic bezel ?

[@khronokraze]

sorry, I'm not sure I understand your question? but, if I think I do, no, almost. it's different in a number of ways. the case and crown are totally different. no crown guards, large crown, and has drilled through lug holes. and, of course, the dial and hands applications are different as well. plus, not only is this ceramic bezel insert, but fully lumed, too.

[@StayOnIt]

Great great review here!

[@khronokraze]

Thank you kindly!

[@adambreuse1875]

The Steinhart doesn't come any more with the jubilee strap

[@khronokraze]

Must don't. But, I think the Pepsi GMTs, both ceramic and aluminum bezel versions, still have that option. At least at gnomon and Steinhart directly.. unless that's changed recently.

[@bozo4136]

any idea how often gnomon restock the squale gmt? i have been waiting a month now, ready to buy when it restocks, but i need a watch quite soon.

[@khronokraze]

No idea. Seems like several months. And, it is not the exact same design as the one I had. Changed the hands for one thing. Might be different again the next time it is restocked

[@gunnersforlife7796]

Does the steinhart wear larger on wrist?I have 8 inch wrist and relly considering this model.

[@khronokraze]

I don't think so. Seems to wear as a 39mm watch should. I think the squale might seem a little larger. Has slightly wider(thicker) lugs, 40mm, and overall look had more visual presence to me.

[@ishanrko]

Hey could you tell me how did you get the Jubilee bracelet for the Steinhart. Did you end up paying extra and buying it separately

[@khronokraze]

Paid extra and bought it separately, but at the same time I got the watch so they arrived together.

[@1SaG]

The Vintage 39 with Steinhart's Jubilee is what's on my list. Looks so good on that bracelet and I love the Pussy Galore-vibe I'm getting from this watch. Their 42mm Vintage Dual Time ("Pan Am") also looks great, but I haven't seen that one in the flesh yet, plus it's getting up there in price.

[@brianmurphy8154]

That red looks very much aluminum...I agree it doesnt match very well and I want to buy this watch. Does Squale say that it is all ceramic?

[@khronokraze]

Yes it's all ceramic. I've actually seen this exact color and tone as aftermarket he's Seiko mod parts... Which is a bit if a turn off. 1st, the color tones just don't match, as I stated. Pick a solid red that works with the blue half. OR, make the blue have a metallic sheen that matches the red half. 2) although I am into and have done modded Seiko's myself.. I just don't fancy the thought this part used on the Square is exact same as the ones I've seen as aftermarket mod part. Kind of cheapens the feel to me knowing this in the back of my head. I have to say Steinhart did a much better job with their last Ocean 39 Pepsi GMT where they now have a ceramic Pepsi bezel insert option in addition to the aluminum they had first. The colors are a way better match on the Steinhart Pepsi GMT. 3rd, as I think Ive stated. I've been disappointed in Squale lume. It just seems weak in comparison. And, as I stated, the lume priority is backwards. Bezel strongest, then the dial, then the handset weakest. Anyways, maybe they've updated the lume on later production models?

[@brianmurphy8154]

@@khronokraze Yes I like Steinhart...I have one, I just wish they would do the maxi case of the modern Rolex...thank you for the replay and video, cheers!

[@khronokraze]

Yeah.. they need to refine their case, namely the lugs, and they'd have so many more onboard with their Ocean One and Ocean 39. They have a new updated diver. Ocean 2?.. I think the case and lugs are redesigned better. Only in 42mm right now, I think. Maybe they'll make a new 39mm version later

[@devonchung1918]

How come you were able to get the Steinhart vintage with a jubilee bracelet? did you swap it out yourself? I asked them if i could buy it with a jubilee or if they would consider selling it with a jubilee, their response was "we don't modify the watches before we sell them because then it wouldn't be a new watch and we only sell new watches" I wasn't very happy with their response as you can imagine

[@khronokraze]

You can buy the Jubilee separately, which I did st same time of purchase of the watch. I guess they just won't install it for you. Other than that, there is currently no option with the that particular model to only hedy out on the jubilee.

[@devonchung1918]

@@khronokraze Yeah I realize paying an extra $100+ for the bracelet is an option, I just didn't want to pay more and own two bracelets when I only want one. The reason I was looking at the Steinhart was as a budget option, anyway I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this watch would look better with a jubilee, just wish they'd offer it as an option.

[@khronokraze]

@@devonchung1918 yeah, I didn't mind owning two bracelets with a watch. I like to have both options and switch up my strap options anyways. I agree, I wish they would just give you the other option bracelet on the Jubilee as well just like they do for the ocean 39 and 42 mm GMT Pepsi aluminum bezel Style

[@ThienNgocVo]

Do u still keep Steinhart Vintage GMT?

[@khronokraze]

I sold a long time ago

[@ThienNgocVo]

@@khronokraze I am planing to buy steinhart 39 gmt ,but consider the gmt ceramic 2 ver and this vintage ver, how is your ideas?

[@khronokraze]

@@ThienNgocVo between the 2 ceramics, assuming you are looking into the Pepsi bezel colors, I actually would prefer the newer looking one. I'm the red and blue color is brighter which I prefer. One of many reasons I sold this vintage style one was I found the red and blue colors too dark and dull. I need for them to pop and show some visual excitement. Whenever I look at it on my wrist and see how it looks on me in the mirror, I was always not impressed by how dark the bezel looked.. additionally, I did not like the how the lume AND print had the exact same vintage lume color. It looked too clean and even. The lume and dial print for text and logo, even the outer minute track should be different material. Thus, they should look different and not identical in color. I would also got with the more modern GMT style because I believe it costs a little less tok and frankly looks overall more correct and less manufactured vintage look which is not 100% convincing in my eyes

[@ThienNgocVo]

@@khronokraze Thank you so much for your share, so i will get the newer pepsi ceramic ver with jubilee bracelet for save money.

[@chgege2334]

Thanks for the detailed comparison. I really like Steinhart and I am ready to pull the trigger. Can I ask what your wrist size is?

[@khronokraze]

my wrist size is 6.875". I don't think you will regret the steinhart. thanks for watching.

[@Keifsanderson]

@@khronokraze That is an oddly specific number :)

[@hugobrmnr]

The Ocean 39 Blue/Red GMT with ceramic bezel would have been perfect ... but it doesn't exist.

[@jazzman5598]

It does now. Direct from Steinhart and about €650.00. Beautiful and super build quality. October 2020 now.

[@robertorizzo3159]

Great video!!

[@khronokraze]

thanks and thanks for watching!

[@christopherschmitz2815]

Hey Wing, i see you in the Facebook groups often, good to see you on KZbin too! I have the Steinhart but I am looking for the Squale so if you are selling please let me know! I will shoot you my contact info on facebook my man, thanks!!

[@khronokraze]

thanks for watching. I am still deciding what to do. my initial plan was to keep the steinhart and sell the squale. but, despite the leas than stellar lime, I can't deny the squale has both better wrist presence and difference in design philosophy to be its own thing. just not sure I can also justify keeping basically two Pepsi GMT style watches. will let u know if I decide to part with the Squale. thanks.

[@tomjones9519]

Squale has terrible QC. The lugs are not spec. I had so many issues with mine.

[@khronokraze]

wouldn't know for sure myself since this is really my first squale. overall I like. the lume is a bit disappointing and most disappointing part of the watch o have. other than that, I have not had any other issues myself.

[@CharlieLeal13]

So who won?

[@khronokraze]

Not really a competion, but I suppose both lost as I eventually sold them both. But, the Squale went out first.

[@unclejack168]

@@khronokraze why did you sold both of them quickly is there any buyer or seller remorse for both?

[@khronokraze]

@@unclejack168 the squale I sold first. Then the Steinhart. No, no sellers remorse. I had my own good reasons for selling them. The Squale Pepsi colors were wrong. They just looked like from 2 different bezels.. the red from a Pepsi aluminum, the blue from a batman. Additionally, the lume sucked... As it usually seems to on the few Squale I've ever owned. Rather, on this one, the lume priority was backwards. The bezel actually really good and last the longest. But, the dial seems to fade relatively fast in comparison and the dial indices lasted 2nd and with the hour and minute hands third. If anything it should be reverse with hour and minute hands to last the longest. The Steinhart didn't pop with the red and blue bezel colors. I understand it is imitating a vintage look, but I discovered I prefer the red and blue to pop more. Lume for vintage fauxtina was surprisingly good all around. But, the use of the fauxtina color was the exact same for the print on the dial. That didn't make sense as the print is not supposed to be same print material as lume. They should have left the print white or at least a lighter off white color and not same as lume. As it is one dial and overall, the faux vintage look looked too clean and even for an aged look. Artificial looking. So, no regrets. The search for perfect Pepsi GMT continued and continues. The last best one I had was the Yema Superman GMT Red/Blue Gnomon Exclusive Limited Edition. You can see my review on that one if curious.

[@unclejack168]

@@khronokraze thanks for detail reply really help me su much with my decision. Best regards.

[@tiltedrealizations8610]

BUYER BEWARE: I own this Steinhart watch and I have one big gripe with it. The red portion of the bezel absolutely do not look as crisp in real life as it does on picture or film. If anything, the color is more pinkish than red with the numbers within it also being very dull and rather hard to discern. For this reason the watch is a disappointment to me. I wrote this in a review to Gnomon Watches, where I bought the watch and subsequently pointed it out to Steinhart as well. So far though, a couple of weeks later, Gnomon has not posted the review and neither Gnomon nor Steinhart has responded to me.

[@1SaG]

Interesting. I had this one in my hand and on my wrist last week and the bezel looked absolutely fine - just like in pics/videos. Perhaps you received one that slipped by quality control?

[@tiltedrealizations8610]

​@@1SaG I've concluded that this watch simply "suffers" from being too photochenique with the camera picking up details and colors that the naked eye will miss, thus setting you up for a disappointment if you buy the watch based only on what the pictures and video will show you. I have since paired the watch with a high quality, chocolate brown, distressed leather strap, which helps bringing the bezel forward, making the whole ensemble look MUCH, MUCH better. Only problem I have now, I set out to buy a homage diver, which I feel I haven't accomplished. So when I do buy one within the next several months, it too will probably be a Steinhart, as I have researched this corner of the market extensively and I just can't find another place with a better bang for the buck.

[@ericrrichmond19]

Good video. I have the Squale and love it. The Steinhart lost for me because of the vintage lume, printed markers and small GMT arrow. Squale just dropped a Pepsi with vintage lume for those interested.

[@khronokraze]

thanks for watching. Sorry, I don't really like it, the new squale vintage GMT. I have the previous version,obviously, that does not have the vintage look and It looks much better and appropriate. It just makes no sense to me mixing the most modern Rolex GMT Master II homage and design by putting faux radium patina lume on it. It just makes no sense and does not match up.. the design of this watch is essentially current 2019 Style. The patina should not look like it was from 50 years ago. sorry, not a fan. The last one without the Vintage effect and just white lume was much better and makes more sense. just my humble opinion.

[@davidhackett1694]

Not on Gnome--Where can I see the new one?

[@ericrrichmond19]

@@davidhackett1694 the non vintage Squale is sold out. Only the vintage lume Squale is available. Both are Gnomon exclusives. If you want the non vintage, get on the mailing list. They release a small batch every 6 months. Here's a link with a lot of buyer impressions and pictures. r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/topic?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums%2Ewatchuseek%2Ecom%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D4977789&share_tid=4977789&share_fid=13788&share_type=t

[@khronokraze]

@@ericrrichmond19 true. anyone interested, I am selling my non-vintage one on Ebay right now.

[@DoneRightReviews]

Looooooooooooongest video ever..... and I loved it! :)

[@nasirnasiry2836]

STEINHARD SUPER

[@paulbancroft2812]

These gmts function identical to the Rolex with the exception of quick set. All three of the watches the two on your desk and the Rolex can measure time in 3 time zones.

[@khronokraze]

Sure they can. It's just the difference in whether the GMT jumps or the main hour hands when you get to a new local time. The former which is usually the ETA 2893-2 is more of what some call the Work GMT. Pretty much you stay at your home time and use the GMT function to track other time zones. The later which is in the Rolex, and Omegas, and mostly higher end watches is softened referred to as the Traveler's GMT. More convenient to keep the GMT on home time and adjust main hands to new local time zone. You can find this sort of movement in certain entry level watches with ETA based C07.661 such as the Mido Ocean Star GMT (Mido Caliber 80) and new Hamilton Khaki Aviation Converter Auto GMT (Hamilton Caliber H-14). If u dont travel much but like to keep track of other time zones, the Work GMT is preferable. Conversely, If you do travel more, then the Traveler's GMT would be more desirable.

[@umutaydogdu1502]

Squale lum is fiasco😖

[@rinomallardi9322]

You could also keep this review shorter, this unclear slow talking for 2 useful words per minute drives me nuts. Get to the point ...

[@brandons3692]

You mispronounced Squale. It's pronounced as "Squall-uh" not "Squall-ee". It's one of the most important dive watch companies in history. Comparing anything they produce to a Steinhart, that has no pedigree, is quite blasphemous.

[@oceanwatchesclaudejolly1742]

Brandon you are right i just bought a squale and i'm very satisfied i think the quality is much better than steinhart and i heard steinhart are using metal from china to construct the case

[@khronokraze]

Regardless, in my experience between the two, the Squale isn't bad, but the Steinhart is still better. 39mm is a better size, for me I appreciate drilled through lugs, the bracelet is better and tapers more, you don'tpay as much for the Steinhart, and the lume is superior on the Steinhart as the Squale is unimpressive and has backwards lume priority. Besides, this is a comparison of watches I've owned and my opinion of the two. And, it seems enough people are interested in the comparison as they are both watches of interest and consideration to many that share similar design concepts.

[@brandons3692]

@@khronokraze Opinions are just that, so no offense taken. Especially where size is the primary concern. That said, Squale made history making watch components, in particular, cases, for some of the world's first top tier diving watches. So, while we look to those other brands as premium, it's because they relied on companies like Squale to produce the parts to get them there. Steinhart simply doesn't have the pedigree or chops. They are a good company, and I love a lot of their watches but they aren't in the same league. Not by any stretch of the imagination. Write both companies and ask them to describe their build process. Only one is going to personally respond. And if by chance both do, only one is going to truly impress. That's Squale.

[@khronokraze]

@@brandons3692 no offense given, no offense taken. I still dont get why a brand with such an established history of making sive watches still can't make and apply a decent lume for their divers?

[@brandons3692]

@Paul Martin You're responding to a 5 month old conversation. LOL. Post your watch collection or be quiet. smh.

[@randymarsh3677]

Yes i do need that triangle to be that big the more lume the better for me