Square ground filing with double chisel bit file

[@aerialrescuesolutions3277]

Absolutely the best video I have ever seen about chisel chain, the close up live footage of the file going through the cutters is awesome. Mine cut fast, but not this fast.

[@38unknownhinson]

Same. I dont speak this language and have no idea what you just said but this is a very well put together video. Learned alot from this thank you

[@curtisneill2007]

100%

[@richardf9137]

Excellent Excellent Excellent, Absolutely the best Video Explanation of Square Filing!! Thank You so much,Very Grateful!

[@longlowdog]

The most comprehensive square grind video on KZbin. Perfect camera work and English subtitles no hindrance whatsoever.

[@JMKady76]

Man I have watched a ton of videos on this subject, but yours are the ones that have allowed me to actually get a proper square file on my chains! Excellent explanation and the images of the cutters from several angles made all the difference.

[@aktrapper6126]

I really like the method of clamping the chain in the end of the vise with the chain falling off beyond the tooth you are filing. So many benefits to this method, you won't hit the chain link, and you certainly don't have to worry about the tooth moving around when your filing......well done.

[@bob_frazier]

Now THAT is a professional video and a professional file job!

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

nate thx for helping this info get out for folks , there is not to much more a fella wood need ta know its all right here ,, well done fella s

[@michpatriot9097]

Hey Buckin what files have you been using? i think im gonna try some of these next time i order, Ive only used Pferd but i really like the shape hes using in this video!

[@JoeGhost61]

@@michpatriot9097 hes using Vallorbe double chisle bit files ftom the Swiss.

[@JoeGhost61]

@Buckin' Billy Ray Smith, thx budy we try to share around all the details about square ground filing here overseas. Its very populare in France, Swiss and Austria, the Germans are a bit to lazy. 😁

[@robertopinzani6774]

I was watching the Billy Ray vid. About square filling ,and after im gonig here and i find a comment of Billy Ray himself ,great video clear and essential i had to add. this channel to the Billy Ray one

[@michpatriot9097]

@@JoeGhost61 thanks so much Joerg..just ordered one!

[@eltravieso111]

Thanks for the great video! I had purchased the exact same Vallorbe file and have been practicing this sharpening method based on other good videos. This video just reinforced all the basics in an extremely clear visual way. I keep one saw dedicated with a square chisel chain and only use it on clean trees where I know I won't hit rocks. The other saws get round filed and it's all a happy mix.

[@gaylordsuckballs5096]

What site did u buy the files from? Or did u go to a store?

[@eltravieso111]

@@gaylordsuckballs5096 I bought it from Madsen’s Shop and Supply in Centralia, WA. Order by phone.

[@AlexSwan]

Yup agree, even though it's in French with subtitles this is by far the best video on square ground chains! Manifique!

[@harryporter3531]

I feel like I should get college credits for watching this course 🤔 super in depth

[@JohnnyButtercuts]

Probably the best video on square filing. Absolute perfecto and thank you for the subtitles my friend!

[@magnumtreefalling6400]

Awesome video, thank you making one with subtitles. I've been trying my hand at hand square fill. Been square grinding for a number of years now and got tired of packing 4-6 chains in my backpack.

[@saltrock9642]

Best chisel filing video on KZbin. Thank you 😊

[@1ybuzz]

Thats the best hand square filing I have seen. Very well done.

[@extremefishermen6335]

Im ordering those files same brand ..your filing skills are surgical! Your video is very helpful i appreciate it and im confident i can get it on point thanks to you . GREETINGS FROM THE USA 🇺🇸MY FRIEND

[@lightsnsiren79]

Thank you for a detailed close explanation of the technique. I’m going to try it.

[@benny6609]

This is seriously the best video I’ve ever seen for teaching how to square file.

[@aerialrescuesolutions3277]

Totally.

[@KAK8327]

This is the best tutorial on square filing and I don't speak French! Thank you!

[@mrxlh]

Excellent video explaining the distinct intersections and how to correct them by adjusting which filing angle.

[@thatrowl]

that was a very high standard of production and saw handling thank you

[@brownbear846]

Perfect video Sir Thanks for the colored lines and subtitles 🎉

[@ohsoloco5113]

Great video. Thank you for the English subtitles! I've been running full chisel chain on my Jonsered for 20 years filing with a round file. I may have to try this.

[@roguesalmonlife]

Absolutely beautiful step by step guide! Thank you sir!

[@ozymartinez4295]

Video increible super explicativo paso a paso , todo perfecto y en verdad corta a gran velocidad , gracias por enseñarnos amigo ,desde Tampa,FL,E.U. Lo felicito.

[@eduardo_k]

Fantastic vid on square filing. Thank you for taking the time to make and post it!

[@tasmedic]

Interesting. I was taught to file upwards and into the top corner of the cutter, not downwards, the reason being that the intention is to form a burr at the sharp edge of the top plate and side plate. Filing downwards prevents a burr forming, and I was told that making the burr guaranteed the sharpest edge possible. This principle is taken from knife sharpening. Also, the burr is easy to see when you're filing, and stopping as soon as you see the burr makes it possible to remove the minimum amount of steel to get the sharpest edge. If you can't see the burr, then you're basically guessing how much steel you need to remove, since there is no visual cue. I'm very happy with the sharpness of my chains (I have 5 chainsaws), but I might give this idea a go and see what I think to it. I also sharpen both the right and left pointing cutters alternately by standing in front of the tip of the bar. This avoids having to go round the whole chain twice in order to sharpen all the cutters. Just my 2c. I'm now thinking I should make my own video!

[@drd1924]

Agreed in all aspects. I like to file outward also to form the burr....I might say though that this guy in the vid looks like he has been doing this a long time so likely...... Takes the exact same amount of strokes off each tooth. However this is not always the real world scenario and it takes as many strokes as necessary to get the tooth sharp. Meaning if one or 2 teeth take 6 file strokes while the rest of the chain only takes 4 ....I am going to leave it And not go over the whole rest of the chain just to take 2 extra strokes off the rest of the teeth just to make them all exactly the same.

[@botfoblhrp]

What a excellent video, just heard about this couple weeks ago. But know i understand how to make it work . im ordering a file now. Thank you very much for this fantastic video.

[@michalkotulak4948]

Hi Where from you getting files?

[@michedmck]

The files wear out fast! Order more!!!

[@pearllllllll]

@@michedmck Hi mate Just a question As I'm thinking you may know Do you need a square type chain Or Can you convert the chain Already sharpening it with a round file To applying the square file To create the square cut ? Thank you

[@aaronbounds1336]

😲 Never have I seen shavings like that before. Wow.

[@roguesixty1692]

That's a 1st someone that can actually hand sharpen square making a vid for a change. Good job.

[@e.lebrunet6311]

Jacob from Guilty of Treeson (youtube channel) made one on square filing too not long time ago. With these 2 videos you will have everything to master the skill 👍

[@ShafnerTreeServiceLLC]

perfect video, sir! I'm watching it again.

[@simd510]

Thank you for the video. I am trying to learn. Subtitles are super helpful!!

[@stihlnz]

Thank you very much for your knowledge and the part numbers, good luck to you.

[@stihlnz]

Hey Swisse man ..what size file do you use for the gullet ?

[@bennyblanko3]

This guy knows how to sharpen and cut! Wow, the slabs just pealed off when limbing! Look at the noodles! And, a 500i with a short bar. That doesn't happen on the west coast often, but works perfectly for the application.

[@tbruce-sawsandsplitting]

This video is incredible, will definitely be re watching online the shed starting all my chain! Those teeth look like animals!! Tye cuts at the end are so satisfying! Like a hot knife through butter!! Big respect to you

[@444gtb]

Great video, thank you for sharing! One of the best I’ve seen.

[@Powdaman22]

Can’t wait to try this. Thank you. Merci

[@Mehle1705]

Great video! Very clear/ concise and all the angles were shot perfectly!

[@Thoreau-e4l]

Great video! From USA, Great state of SC!

[@toddkummet934]

Thank you for this video. This is a technique I am learning and this was very helpful. By the way...... nice Stihl.

[@scubaseppy]

Great video. I’m going to give this a try now. Unbelievable depth.

[@corpsiecorpsie_the_original]

Thank you for making this video. It was very informative and well done. I'm also in aww of your skills and abilities. You and chainsaws are a natural combination.

[@valcye]

I have been watching several channels on square filing and at an age where change has to be questioned (my wife calls it interrogation). 1) Why? faster cut? ego? 2) does it dull quick 3) how forgiving is the file should you get a stroke wrong. 4) does the end justify the means? 5) Is it worth me giving it a shot? Yes! Thanks for the lesson

[@bob_frazier]

We're in the same boat. I'm finding that changing from round to square file to be a real challenge. Worth it? Not sure yet. I can round file perfectly. Of the age where I have the time, but it's like deciding to use the opposite hand to write with. Takes some real concentration. Good luck!

[@stihlnz]

@@bob_frazier Bob, I've been at it for a year now ... my 3/8 chain is generally pretty amazing ..really fast ..I'm have a bit of trouble with the .404 .. I've got a simington 451C ..then do it by hand.

[@bob_frazier]

@@stihlnz That's awesome Tom! And now there's Hexa I want to at least try it. You?

[@stihlnz]

@@bob_frazier I live in New Zealand .... I think they'll try to sell you the whole kit ..chain and file ? ... I've rung them up ..not sure if I can just get the file. Files are $18 NZ pricey. Come out in march. Good luck

[@bob_frazier]

@@stihlnz March 8s here, and no Hexa products at my local saw shop. Good luck in NZ!

[@jasonhayes4171]

Excellent explanation, one of the best I’ve seen.

[@thestcroixkid]

this would be excellent on a ripping chain/alaska mill, the "chips" in soft wood look like spaghetti! Im sold!

[@johncurrie1789]

Fabulous tutorial! Thanks so much for posting!

[@bernhardivenz8183]

Absolutes Top Video über den Kantenschliff! Vielen Dank!

[@ryy597]

votre video est d'une qualité incroyable! pour ceux qui comprenne le francais c'est une véritable trouvaille. je suis tres content d'avoir decouvert votre chaine et vos video!

[@JuanMiguelGarcia1969]

Excellente vidéo, démonstration remarquable. Grâce à votre très bonne démarche pédagogique je vais pouvoir travailler en parfaite connaissance avec mon outillage d’abattage. Merci Monsieur.

[@bryanbradford2742]

Excellent tutorial!! Thanks 🙏🏻

[@simondenis9511]

Je suis rarement admiratif du travail d’aiguisage des scies à chaine fait par les KZbinurs, mais là je suis impressionné. Votre technique pour filmer et enseigner est aussi superbe. Bravo!

[@schmiedepeter3881]

Sehr gutes Video, alles exzellent erklärt; den Kantenschliff muss ich ausprobieren.

[@willisbruce4044]

Impressionnante technique! Un guide chaine court et une 500i offre une rapidité de coupe incroyable. Je serais curieux de voir la comparaison avec une chaine standard.

[@ImplantedMemories]

Charpening knifes and chains is always some kind of magic.

[@KerimRagimov]

Great video, thank you 🌿

[@jbruins156]

Outstanding video! Thank you.

[@karldarrington3697]

Wonderful video, thank you for taking the time to make it. Very informative.

[@justintime2277]

👍 From Cadillac Michigan

[@robertshoemaker6204]

Excellent job on your video showing how to square file correctly...been square filing for years...Shoe

[@danchenoweth4747]

Where did you By it I would like to get one!!!!!!!????

[@robertshoemaker6204]

@@danchenoweth4747 Hi Dan...buy what,the chain or the files to sharpen with? Usually purchase chisel square ground/file chain from Matsen's mail order in Washington files too. They have great prices also Baileys in California are good to, usually get better prices out of Matsens.

[@danchenoweth4747]

@@robertshoemaker6204 hi vallorbe the square ground filing with double chisel bit file . The file they show on the video

[@danchenoweth4747]

Where do you buy the file

[@danchenoweth4747]

Thank you and Have a good day

[@DelCorbin]

Awesome information and presentation!

[@aurelienmercier2281]

Video au top comme toujours encore bravo et grand merci à toi 👍👍🔝🔝

[@Treewise]

👍👍 best square filing vid iv seen so far

[@waynoswaynos]

When you have a video like this, you might also have 1,000 of these files in stock and include a link to your website where you sell them to interested parties. You can still do this buy adding a comment and highlighting the comment so your comment always comes first.

[@alessandrosuppini943]

Best video ever, still not clear to me though what disadvantages for the single bevel file compared to double bevel

[@aerialrescuesolutions3277]

Excellent again. Perfecto. Bravo...

[@rodwalpole8340]

Thank you .

[@rodwalpole8340]

All good works a treat love it long time hey , cheers .

[@jensenwilliam5434]

Thank you!! Thank you!!!

[@jamesahr2634]

Best video out here.

[@Francois-74]

Super belle video , avec un magnifique test dans du sapin ❤❤❤❤

[@zenonczerwik984]

SUPER dzięki POZDROWIENIA z Darłowa nad Bałtykiem emeryt PASIONAT eko ogrodów

[@jolllyroger1]

Even with sub titles best video on the subject

[@bluelude2001]

Amazing video!

[@mathias12345678]

Excellent! Très bon explication. J’espère c’est le mieux film dans internet. Merci bien!

[@Witschor]

Awesome Tutorial. What about the Rakers ( Depth Gauges) 0,65 or 0,8mm? Cuts Insane!

[@Witschor]

@Maciej Jan Długosz thanks

[@job38four10]

Wish this was in english looked like a very good demonstration of square filing. After sharpening saw chains for the past 45 years, I only heard about this square filing this past month, seem like it's becoming very popular in the last couple years.

[@ahti29]

Its all good but i do not understand the benefits over round filing?Its sharper?I do not think so.Stays sharp longer?I doubt it.

[@hunter5502000]

@@ahti29 It definitely cuts faster.

[@_TN.youtube]

Can we double up on the chainsaw pants. Very impressed with the performance

[@anne-sophiedomelier1214]

Bravo pour cette vidéo. Totalement fan 👍.

[@wilfriedprusse7368]

Salut superbe video toujours au top la sa coupe quelle plaisir de faire du bois avec une tronçonneuse qui coupe voudrais trop savoir faire repasser avec cette technique ce savoir faire...la ce n'est pas un guignol un vrai pro ssss..plus qu a acheter cette chaine et ces limes est de s entraîné voudrais trop etre a votre niveau encore merci pour la demo🤘👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@rem-cv7gp]

Magnifique 🤩

[@Pervoklasnik1]

Thank you for the file code.

[@2553023828]

Thank you!!!!!

[@theronwinsby]

Beautiful!

[@johnhildebrand1991]

perfect educational vidioes ive been wanting to try square ground thank for the nice vidioe

[@SYALIREA]

素晴らしい！　画面だけで言わんとしていることがしっかりと伝わる。説明も丁寧だ。 研ぐ方向が逆なのは日欧の違い、なのかな。

[@adrianomousing6053]

Super vidéo, trés bien expliqué maintenant il me faudrait avoir ce genre de lime, vue comment vous avez coupé c'est comme du beurre, merci pour le partage 👍

[@mikemraz8569]

Finally “thank you “ I have it 🤗

[@Giorgos_Oikonomou89]

Awesome video......The question is what kind of file needs for each chain (1/4-325-3/8-404 etc)

[@工藤二正]

素晴らしい説明です。👍🎄

[@blakethompson9138]

Great instruction!

[@brucelund5788]

great teaching, thanks

[@j.d.williams6882]

Holy crap look at those hash browns he's throwing when hes cutting. Very nice!

[@josephroman4176]

Merci pour ta video Excellente explication y a plus qu'à 😆 De plus monsieur ne se refuse rien, ebranchage avec une 500i..... 😉

[@forrestheaney9059]

Thank you very good video

[@e.lebrunet6311]

Great video, the color on the faces and angles are really nice, easy to get right away what you mean. Great explanation too. Did you noticed if the chain stays sharp longer than a round profile?

[@stihlfansuisse]

@E. Lebrunet : yes, square filing stay sharp longer than a round profile

[@tobiasapfelbacher5243]

Hello. Whats the reason behind to clean the gullet that you show on 12 min. Thanks. Wish you a happy new year!

[@RollingEasy]

Good video...... I really have a good laugh when people talk about hard wood though.... Trust me, everything you cut is Balsa Wood compared to the Jarrah and Buloke and Mallee that lurks in the dark and dangerous corners of some continent in the Southern Hemisphere.

[@mtbrewfalling9442]

Can you comment on how long these files last? I usually toss round files pretty quick but they are much cheaper. Thanks

[@thomasgronek6469]

from what I've done so far, I am counting on four or five full comp, 3/8, 72D (20 inch) sharpenings per file. I have finally seen some by Vallorbe on the internet, and Madsin's sell Pferd I believe, (or it might be Baily's that sells them). Can I have your opinion on something: At 9:54 , just over the second 'o' in Oregon, the curve under the file's lower edge appears to have been cleaned out with a small file prior to him sharpening, so there is a relief for the lower angle. When I sharpen mine, the file binds, and yanks at the chain, I have seen it with everyone else except this guy. I think he pre-filed the gullet to clear out any lower obstruction. What do you think ? (I will be trying it my way to see if it helps).

[@thomasgronek6469]

Never mind, he did it at 11:55.

[@superduper6570]

Great video and the chain cuts realy fast, one question though, can the file be opperated the other way? Like the usual round filing but with the same angles?

[@jimdoria7871]

Can't find this type of Vallorbe file on Amazon, so wondering if Pferd chisel bit is an equal type file.

[@victoryfirst2878]

I will have to try this sharpening on my saw. Looks impressive in the wood slice. VF

[@김시경-y1r]

excellent helpful information!