Squidmar CALLED ME OUT on my Bullsh*t...

It was only a matter of time...
0:00 The Squidmar Formula
3:50 Squidmar is a Thief
7:29 Trovarion is the biggest Thief of them all
12:35 Why I hate KZbin
14:17 Final Score & What to learn from it
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This channel is about painting miniatures for your warhammer, infinity, warmachine & d&d games, as well as age of sigmar and warhammer 40k. space marines, space wolves, sisters of battle, stormcast eternals, beastclaw raiders, mawtribes, cities of sigmar, chaos space marines. Also painting different scale models and miniature busts! How to paint NMM. How to paint warhammer, how to paint D&D figures.

[@Tosicc567]

Jesus so many people in these comments didnt watch the video. Its clearly light hearted fun between people who like eachother

[@Almindale]

Right? Clearly missing the point and just want to jump on the 'we hate Squidmar' bandwagon :P

[@madMARTYNmarsh1981]

Calling someone a thief should never be used in light-hearted conversation. That's the kind of thing that gets people sued/beaten up.

[@Tosicc567]

@@madMARTYNmarsh1981 then you clearly didn't watch the video

[@darthkek1953]

What you're ignoring is the fact it's a show about thumbnails and titles and how they relate to the show. Therefore it's perfectly valid - in this case - to judge the content by the thumbnail and title alone. And, going by the thumbnail and title, it is time for war. All out total war.

[@trovarion]

@@darthkek1953 I am ready for total war. A total war, of which the outcome should be decided by the deadliest form of conflict known to man: An EPIC DANCE-OFF!

[@SquidmarMiniatures]

Wait you're stealing my accent now? New stream coming next week! Jokes aside it was S-tier because we felt we wish we had made the thumbnail! Also yes, we are massive Trovarion fanboiiiss, i think this might be my new favorite trov video. ❤❤❤❤

[@Villalbacon]

Now kiss

[@Villalbacon]

But seriously now, this low key roast is golden by both sides XD

[@patticusfinch139]

Do a copy collab for April fools!

[@alcovitch]

You stole from the community with your garbage tier brushes dude. For shame.

[@Zenkujo]

I adore that Trovarion's response was "I think I tried copying more than that"

[@ST-mh3gl]

I was about to write the exact same thing!

[@theartofshiroho5492]

Yes real intelligence and cold blood here. Gave me even more respect about the man xD

[@TexMechsRobot]

I love how the thumbnail is basically a Squidmar thumbnail lol.

[@SalterThe]

That why he is S-tier thief 😂

[@Slouworker]

It's a talent to be that rucking obnoxious

[@Smoreexplore64]

If only Warhammer Lore channels were as graceful as Miniature painting channels.

[@Pers0n97]

"lore channels" I wouldn't call any of the two clowns that have embarrassed themselves publicly deserve to be called that tbh. On one side you get a cringe-lord that try to pretend memes are canon and on the other side you get the kind of cringy woke activists that want to change the lore to push his agenda.

[@Smoreexplore64]

@@Pers0n97 Honest to God Emperor you’re right. The two we’re talking about both seem more algorithm/growth focused than say Leutin Sandman or Baldemort, who actually go in depth and write homebrew lore to go alingside. But I’m just impressed at the good sportsmanship Trovarion and Squidmar have.

[@03dashk64]

@@Pers0n97what lore is he changing to support his agenda?

[@kilrari]

Oculus imperia is pretty good

[@The_belligerant_servo_skull]

Majorkill and midwinter right? Or who is the cringe woke one? I immediately though of MM implying Wehrmacht historic wargame players were fascist themselves (while advertising world of warships playing a WW2 Germany battleship...unbelievable!)

[@nickf950]

Squidmar has crossed the line from "Mini painter who youtubes" to "youtuber who mini paints"

[@DGWck]

Always has been

[@billdefranza4927]

Oh, damn. I think you're right.

[@heresyhobbyist]

I actually cant stand squidmar videos anymore. They feel so..artificial? The ads, clickbait titles, obnoxious thumbnails, the "youtuber-ness" of it feels like it lacks any sincerity. I feel like owning a youtube video idea is silly, and replicating a painting style is how people learn. I dont think you can own that either.

[@Pikilloification]

Their content is at times a bit cringy, had to unsub because I couldn't be bothered anymore...

[@oldmate86]

same. If I wanna see a video I just look it up. I don't need to sub@@Pikilloification

[@speaktome4778]

Just wanted to say thank you for the videos you make. They really deserve more views. After your last one I finally started painting my first mini using your grimdark sponge method that Squidmar also copied for one of their videos 😜 It's been a lot of fun and I love it! (And thanks to the commenters who encouraged me too!)

[@gigartina]

I will actively Not Click on thumbnails with the surprised-look-with-open-mouth style, even if i think i might like the content. I suppose thumbnails are like book covers, conveying genre and mood in a tiny image to let a reader know they’re in good hands for the next [insert appropriate timeframe].

[@TheMcLeish]

Same with the "I got scammed on cheap shopping market place" videos

[@DIMOdoesstuff]

I actually don't watch Squidmar for this reason. I know that's a bit petty and his videos are usually good, the thumbs just make me not want to click them

[@TheZaidge]

This has the same energy as not eating icecream cuz it’s in a yellow colored bowl

[@slickschoppers]

yep, There are some that are just complete show stoppers, the first that comes to mind is Lyla Mev. she is the queen of making faces to draw clicks. i've been to more than one conference were people referred to her thumbnails as "the queen of surprise but secks" I wouldn't go that far, but her extreme faces do get extreme reactions and that is what she's going for. I have to believe there is a middle ground, and like I said, Lyla Mev is just the one that always sticks out for me. like I often won't click the video just because the facial expression is so over the top ridiculous.

[@devildoughnut1788]

Surprisingly informative video! I’ve been curious why thumbnails change from time to time and this totally explains why content creators would want to experiment with various thumbnails and how much thought and effort goes into creating them. As a casual viewer I never thought much about how important a good thumbnail could be vs the quality of the content inside.

[@dogtags2010]

Funny thing im new to mini painting and you got recommended to me so i was watching and when the s tier thumbnail with the lizard popped up i recognised it instantly as a video i saw the other day. So yeah, clearly works using that style because i recognised it and remembered saving it to watch later.

[@Honkomedes]

interesting to see how much effort goes into this. i think you got s tier, because you evolved the concept of theyr style and invested more time then they do. good work. Zumikito is already entertaining with his expression and all the ambiguous talk... the base rimming thing was just genius.

[@valentinjakob1686]

You're alright Trovarion :) Your channel is one I just discovered some days ago! I really like your down to earth attitude! Keep up the good work.

[@andrewmartinez2354]

Fully agree with your closing comments. One thing that stood out is when you said “the tutorial style video was dead.” I’m a big fan of your work and would say you, Emil and Simon are the my top three KZbinrs I look to for mini painting. That said, I think where you differ from the others is that you are an artist and teacher first, whereas they balance their art while also trying to be whacky and entertaining. Seems to me it’s a stylistic choice, but I empathize with the frustration you’ve voiced about traction to your channel at times.

[@criticalcommenter]

I can see why this channel struggles. Clearly good content but just flat and boring to watch

[@netherane]

​@@criticalcommenter both you and the OC nail exactly the problem. There are audiences for both being entertained, and those looking to be informed. Trovarion absolutely smashes the competition when it comes to teaching and being an artist by craft (informing), closest next imo are the Hobby Cheating series dude, and Artist Opus. Other channels are focused on entertainment first, such as Squidmar, Miniac, and most others are like them. They cater to different audiences. You want the later, and based on your comment, look down on others that don't carter to your desire to be entertained. Which while I have opinions about that, is well your right to think so. Ohers don't share that need, and I don't see why you'd pronounce that one must be catering towards dopaminergic entertainment style simply to "not struggle". tldr; they're for different people, and it's disappointing that not catering is a cause of struggle. Audiences are the problem more than the creator imo.

[@criticalcommenter]

@@netherane people like you are the problem. Willing to write a big rant but reading comprehension is abysmal. Use your brain and try writing something sensible next time. I'll wait

[@darthkek1953]

@@netherane Hobby Cheating is Vince Venturella. What makes him God Emperor Tier is no matter what you want to know, what bit of this and that, from technique to materials to equipment to colours, he has a short easy-to-find quick-to-watch digestible segment on it. I don't need entertainment in my painting videos. I'll go with the OverKill edgelord for that.

[@LoganGrimmnar]

@@criticalcommenter you realize that you're the one lacking reading comprehension skills, yeah? Their response was reasonable, it's not their fault you got your panties in a twist over a perceived insult. 😭

[@easy.pickens]

Very interesting video. Really gives me a new appreciation of how much work goes into creating a thumbnail image. Now off to watch the full Squidmar video. These are both fun videos. Thank you.

[@carnajom8831]

Only thing missing is the Henry Cavil shot! 😂

[@chriswest-beardedbatman5492]

I love the fun and absolute respect between all the amazing artists. And the ability they have to have fun with each other and show the respect they have for one another. Such a fun video and response.

[@isisnmagic1812]

Love all the work you put into your channel and what you teach, keep doing you and never stop striving and we strive to be as near to you as we can.

[@ChuckCanada1]

this is great lol. i regularly watch all these channels and its nice to see them take the piss from one another like this.

[@Grimprospect]

Waiting for the Squidmar reacting to Trovarion reacting to Squirdmar reacting to taking inspiration from thumbnails lol. Jokes aside, I watch both of these channels and don't miss a video, so I would love to see them to a video together!

[@aroncheek5092]

Alot of people learn through example, I have been using the box art for all the 40k units I've painted

[@kevinspyrle5538]

I really enjoy your videos. That being said, do you think thumbnail importance will remain high enough for a profession to emerge of graphic artists who just make thumbnails for KZbin videos?

[@sweatilaa5325]

There has always been a thumbnail style that really works better than others and that everyone in that video genre is emulating, it changes all the time and you need to keep up with the trends. Now it's Squidmar style thumbnails that works best but soon enough there will be a new thumbnail hottness that someone will figure out and the rest will emulate :)

[@khor11]

"imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" - Dwight Schrute

[@virrcraft]

I really like how painting community ready to help each others. Big channels guys admitting that they are not better than someone from smaller channels, they just sharing info about others... I mean just for fun and to help others to grow. I'm noname, but when I first time joined Zumikito's stream - he asked - hey, share your link :) that's so amazing... I mean... I have no words. Thanks guys that you're so amazing, thanks for sharing not only knowledge about painting and how to paint, but also helping the others from the same community! That's really amazing.

[@redigtuffing4624]

I clicked this video thinking it was those two Swedish goofballs. After watching the video, closing it and seing the thumbnail I lost it 🤣 Very humor! Much friends! Thx for the insight and thx for the laughs guys! ❤️

[@bettsdn]

Holy shit lol. When I saw that “only painting skills you need” video pop up in my feed originally, I just assumed it was a Squidmar video before I clicked on it 😅😅😅 Talk about a brand identify.

[@tomacc9859]

Art is mimicking, and a free interpretation of a subject. Like you said, there are only so many original ideas out there. You, as an individual artist, should always strive to learn from the master, like you Trovarion, and hone your craft. That's how we learn what works and what doesn't work.

[@EarhirX]

I put this video on my Watch Later list but until it started I assumed it was a Squidmar video because of the thumbnail

[@franklinmckenzie8856]

"Good artists borrow, great artist steal." -Pablo Picasso

[@ericmats4662]

Im more about playing the game then paiting, sure, i can find it to be interesting sometimes. But most of the time i just find it to be a means to an end. So for me quickpainting tutorials are usually what im most interested in. But i still love watching Trov, even if the skill level is not something i am trying to achieve. But watching a master of the craft is beautifull in its own ways.

[@bradford2211]

He could just patent the circle shape.

[@TheMcLeish]

They'll think they're apple next!

[@ThomasGallinari]

Ha ha I love that you put Emil's face on your thumbnail instead of yours ;) Also I admire the respect between all of you guys, looks like a big family!

[@Tomovader]

I just love general community of miniature painting. There is no drama and even if it is, it is positive drama. Or drama related to equipment brands, but not about content creators. Love the positive vibe in community.

[@redrooster7371]

Fun fact, when Squidmar first appeared on KZbin I thought he was so much copying Miniac. I guess the tutorial style videos don't perform that good anymore is that there are only so much painting techniques and they're already covered in so many tutorials.

[@shawnfairbanks9339]

The best way to learn to paint is to follow a step by step tutorial for the model you’re trying to paint. Being able to use the same color the artist used and compare your results in real time is invaluable.

[@space197]

"Good artists copy, great artist steal" - Pablo Picasso

[@thelonepainter4760]

Your thumbnail is hilarious!🤣 Love your humor.😂

[@stevemuzak8526]

It's all about the content. When I subscribe to my favorite youtube minis painter I really don't care about thumbnail. Notification bell is the most important thing.

[@Gh0st713]

This video should be used as a study of people not watching the video before they comment. Holy shit lots of hate boners in these comments especially without actually using the video itself for context. Trovarion explains how all of them do the same thing and this is all in jest, but most of the people did not actually watch the video.

[@mattiasgamin3891]

You have a very informative channel. I learn alot.

[@theartofshiroho5492]

No worries rly, wether it's cool between you two-three, wether you all were joking around on this matter or not so much. Both channels are not about creating thumbnails, both of you guys taught me a pack of things yet and mini final results are totally different depending of the artist and that's it. Period. End of the discussion. Still a small round of applause for keeping it cool and not reacting the wrong way after being called a thief (even if again t'was all just a little tickling between collegues).

[@pepi560]

this is very interesting because the whole reason i dont watch squidmar is the over the top clickbaity thumbnails

[@1AngelAlita]

Squidmar is all show, there are far better painters to watch..

[@RisingApe]

Great video, and a really fair take on a fun topic

[@Meuchlor]

Sorry completely unrelated question, but what kind of magnifying glasses are you wearing?

[@ShayneGilly]

inspiration and replication leads to innovation. in the art world a "master copy" is a term that exists for a reason. who better to learn from than those who do things the best?

[@wildgophers91]

this is so incredibly inside baseball.

[@trovarion]

oh....100%

[@ScottieJ448]

did squidmar take down the original video? i can't find it anywhere..

[@maximkaratayev]

Your videos are inspiring more in any way 😊 Definitely S tier 😎

[@atothe40khomeboi]

Dropping this vid so soon is S tier 😅

[@jamblpaints8453]

I've made far more videos than are just on my channel and I agree that making thumbnails is the worst part. I hate it. I'm always relieved when i finish the edit and excited to upload and then my heart drops when i realise i still have to do the thumbnail

[@lukeempty3386]

Just use AI

[@christopherharrington1031]

It’s funny coz I totally thought this was a squidmar video from the thumbnail 😅

[@ironreed2654]

It's hard not to love Squidmar, he's pushing a little more for entertainment vs teaching...different vibes.

[@drachenschanze1]

Actually the only one who was trolled by Squidmar was Majorkill for his minibeef with Weshammer

[@ovan2190]

I like this because it requires a lot of self awareness to make a joke about yourself but also know that yeah the jokes are warranted. Squidmar is great with those and he knows how make others know that the jokes are complements if that makes sense

[@techmarineaskelon2361]

Where is the original stream video?

[@SquidmarMiniatures]

Unfortunately we're really new to streaming and aren't really comfortable with having whole vods up, so we always unlist streams. On our discord it should still be linked though:)

[@techmarineaskelon2361]

Thanks for the heads up Emil!

[@crashingatom6755]

Here's a fun thought experiment. Imagine anything drawn or written onto sheet music or a movie/tv/play script could only be used by that person. I drew a still life of pears, you better find something else. I painted a dark hair woman, that's off the table. I used a C, G, C chord structure, find your own. LUL Artists build on what came before them, it's been like that for a thousand years. The first humans to get out of the storms and draw on cave walls wanted others to do the same, and it became a part of our language. And I'm glad everybody is kind of having fun with this, and really lampshading their own iterations of the weird thumbnail algorithm.

[@travis8106]

I wonder if their video was a dig on Majorkill lmao

[@henrikoelewijn7606]

Fun to see Tumbnails are just like old fashion windowdressing. same principal.

[@trovarion]

I never thought of it like that, but it's so obvious!

[@ScytheNoire]

Trying to copy art styles is how many artists learn various techniques and figure out their own style. Mimicking is how almost all animals learn. Everything is built off that which came before.

[@ed8869]

never knew how much thought goes into thumbnails - very informative Trov - sorry you need to use your talent for needed thumbnails!

[@christopherozouf]

Good video.

[@MohawkMiniatures]

I watch a lot of your stuff and I'm mostly a fan so there's no shade thrown here but I remember your old logo looking nothing like mine :D

[@datenschutzification]

I’m probably the exception to the rule but I couldn’t care less about thumbnails. If anything if they look too “polished” or “click baity” I get less interested.

[@billdefranza4927]

If only Majorakill had seen this last week....

[@darthkek1953]

What's funny is MK is on track to overtake SM's subscriber count.

[@50043211]

If you are spending so much time for creating a TN maybe you should contemplate hiring a Graphic Designer to do the job or let a GD create several easy to use templates for your future TN. Glad to see that this is not real drama BS.

[@studiofoureightnine]

When you have an "unsuccessful" thumbnail and you take it down, do you just change the thumbnail or republish the whole video again? I've read deleting/or editing something like an IG pic and then reloading it can effect the performance.

[@trovarion]

You just change the thumbnail. I even explained it in this video.

[@richardkwiatkowski3047]

I find that this hobby seems to bring the Trolls out to play so it's really great to see some of the big names in the hobby having a laugh and showing appreciation for one another. Excellent video. We're all sneaky thieving Hobbitses at heart :P

[@purehavok]

Might be that I'm older, but I've never cared anything about the thumbnail. I read the text to decide if I want to watch the video.

[@trovarion]

Everyone thinks they are immune to psychological effects.

[@purehavok]

@trovarion maybe being one of your patreon subscribers makes me different

[@trovarion]

@@purehavok that's true. Makes you 200% more attractive too!

[@paulj.m.3343]

You’ve been thinking of ideas on how to Emilate it? Mmm

[@trovarion]

I see what you did there.

[@georgefinnegan2369]

So meta! I am living in a meta world, but I am material boi.

[@Nick-fh4wd]

Is it possible to create your thumbnails in seconds instead of hours with AI? Upload a photograph of your painted miniature with the prompt "create a miniature painting thumbnail for KZbin in the style of squidmar"

[@Johan12359]

I don't know about others, but generally when Im looking at thumbnails, I just want to see "what does the mini look like?" And "am I interested in seeing this miniature painted?" Its a shame that it takes so much of your time needing to do more for the thumbnails when it would be better for the miniature painting community if you could spend your time making more videos and painting instead

[@regorminiatures8059]

Exactly the mini is was is interesting, not the dumb faces or idiotic shocking lie titles

[@Khayul]

@@regorminiatures8059 I especially hate the "blurred out" things. I am NOT going to watch something that is blurred out. I want to know what the end-result was, to see if something in there is worth copying, or that I can see an effect and wonder if I know how to do it.

[@sold37sad]

I never really look at thumbnails, but I know I'm an outlier

[@oak815]

Hey, love your stuff. Totally inspirational. And your content is presented in such a different way than Squidmar, who I also really like. I was a small business owner in a sub-culture once, very small and focused. I know their video and your response is all in good fun, but don't let the politics and business marketing side ever wear you down. Remember there are people like me who connect with your style better than theirs. On the flip side, I know this video leads to more views for you and actually becomes a symbiotic KZbin relationship for your followers and theirs. So as long as it is all positive awesome! I'm guessing it is.

[@timdowning6916]

You do you Trovarion - great videos and style so please don’t change. Cribbing from some of the most successful channels is just a sensible business approach!

[@justarandomname420]

We all stand on the shoulders of the giants that came before.

[@oem42]

No idea how you would go about it but if it's something that gives you significant anxiety have you considered just outsourcing that part of the process? That way you can focus more on what you enjoy and leave it to someone who is more focused on the art of KZbin than the art of minis

[@trovarion]

someone that doesn't know the nieche will produce thumbnails that are going to perform even worse. It's not as easy as to pay a professional designer and automatically receive a thumbnail that your nieche audience will be drawn to, if that makes sense? Also I don't make enough money to outsource.

[@TGPROject101]

most of the thumbnails look like unbox therapy and there old thumbnails

[@magaz]

I can empathise entirely with the thumbnail anxiety. I have two videos sitting ready to publish that I can’t think of a suitable thumbnail for. It drives me mad knowing that if I don’t knock the thumbnail out of the park, nobody is watching the video I have spent hours working on.

[@darthkek1953]

Seek out the Bill Hicks segment "Coca Cola's future advert", take the advice from it.

[@Buzzword27]

I'm pretty sure the whole platform is based on "stealing" others work or we wouldn't be in the position we are in now. It's is the same principle in music, there are only so many notes.

[@Alagachak]

All art starts with imitation ^^

[@MightyGachiman]

To be exact: imitation of nature

[@Artmesa]

Gosh I hate youtube thumbnails. So trashy. Except, well except Vince doesn't stoop low like this!

[@Illindi]

Would have liked a link back to Squidmars vid, that's how good react videos does it. And this was an excellent react.

[@trovarion]

I would have done so, BUT: He doesn't put his livestreams public, so it would have been kinda rude to link the whole stream on my channel if he wants it unlisted.

[@G7noG7nelli]

Is it just me but does the squidmar team resemble James and Harry potter?

[@ZombieApocalypse09]

I sympathize with the struggle of making good thumbnails. I will say for me the thumbnail isn't reaaaally part of it unless it is excessively youtubery in which case it does put me off. When I decide to watch a video it is typically because I read the title and it seemed interesting enough to hover over and see what the first few seconds were like and decided to click. Anything that is too youtubery "YOU'LL NEVER BELIEVE... etc." I'm out (except Wizards With Guns because their videos never have to really do with the title). Anything that seems like BS, I'm out. Not sure if that's helpful since I am probably not representative.

[@johnfarscape]

With Thumbnails, I actually notice the odd ones when scrolling, I don't really notice the white circles one, there is s Nerf guy that just uses crazy fluorescent bright colours for the image in a filter, and it really stands out, or M XR who just uses Bewbs 😂

[@jedifaustino8697]

ooh drama spicy

[@acecab5397]

Personally I don't even look at thumbnails that much cause they don't really make a lot of sense. I just see whose video it is and if the title gets me interested, I click on it.

[@VanCityMinis]

I Personally like the netflix approach to thumbnails, change it up for the first week of the video and then after that change it once a quarter to bump views

[@wapniak666]

​@@thatsheresy oh yeah because youtube is only about pure talent and nothing else matters lol thats why no one watches videos for entertainment, people only do it while actively painting whatever is presented

[@USALibertarian]

It's not like stealing jokes or making a song with the same 3 chords which are worse than genocide.

[@fossiltheorystudios2689]

At first I wrote a longer comment that just called Squidmar I wanna-be dickhead, but I didn't want to stoop that low. Trov man your videos and content are invaluable and props to you for being a class act

[@wapniak666]

I guess you didn't watch the video then

[@Alexsaurus332]

Yk until this video I never noticed the circle in the background. Goes to show how well it works lol

[@cinderheat]

The thumbnail to this video surely picked itself!

[@trovarion]

Took 15 minutes instead of 6 hours. Very refreshing!

[@harrymanback3475]

Squidwho!?! 😂

[@Mekhami]

this is fun "nice-drama".

[@marcingrabowski4268]

Trovarion Miniatures is much BETTER chanel! Specialy for professional noobs like me.

[@ROMANLAPPATMINIATUREART]

Might watch later in full 😂 but guys, all of you, spent those energies in painting more minis and bringing creative ideas with miniatures to life. I do not understand what you are doing here.m, but I think it is miniature youtube entertainment. I - unfortanetely - got no time for that and rather see your beautiful painted miniatures 😂

[@wapniak666]

entertainment is simply more profitable and if these people are doing youtube for a job then obviously they want to make decent living

[@trovarion]

Just a little fun and meta analysis of what is doing well on youtube and why, thumbnails and so on. You will see when you watch the full video. The intro might be cut a bit more dramatic than I intended - but then again...maybe that's why the video is doing so well. Meta af. 🤣

[@ROMANLAPPATMINIATUREART]

@@wapniak666 makes sense as KZbin for a job, I agree...

[@ROMANLAPPATMINIATUREART]

@@trovarion thanks for the explanation. I try to understand, but it is not my World, my brain can not grap this analysis, nor does it want to think more about it :D ... happy for you if it works and I hope I can make the time to watch in full. Thank you for the explanation :)

[@mathieulabillois3138]

It s youtube😂 , maybe I ll stop watch their video if they claim this is copying. I discovered em through another KZbin channel 😂 I love your thumbnails, I wouldn't care about their comments

[@crazyharkonnen]

I unsubscribed Squidmar a long time ago. Thanks for confirming that I was right.

[@mugglehammer]

You don't like friendly banter and humor?

[@Hrodholf]

I like your Swedish accent impersonation.

[@ShinXyres]

Thumbnails must suck to make for the reasons you mentioned. Its 3 hours invested into making something that has a major impact on click-through but doesn't actually contribute to the video itself at all or the content.