SRAM 2024 GX: Is Cheaper Better?

SRAM's new GX Transmission is quite a lot cheaper, but how does it compare to X0 and XX? Here's a comparison between SRAM's 2024 Eagle Transmission

[@kevinmortimer1883]

so basically the only thing that will be significantly lighter.... is your wallet

[@petergriffin4724]

Well spoken, well spoken!

[@j3ptv420]

😂😂😂😂

[@XavieRibeiro25]

Expensive Vs ridiculously expensive

[@TCK71]

Been using SRAM GX for years, never had any problems at all. GX all the way in the new stuff.

[@nl3712]

There are documented issues with derailleur jockey wheels - replaced under warranty by sram

[@danemoreno88]

Nice I just ordered a whole gx groupset

[@oliverbourne9599]

Great vid thanks Rob. Just been looking at this kit, so nice to see it all laid out like this. I'd be an XO type of guy as would want all black on the build

[@BasicBodThor]

To me the battery placement alone with GX makes it better than the more expensive X0 and XX

[@core-i7413]

It's more protected, and it looks nicer.

[@dr.brockhaus5548]

GX with XX Crankset and XO Casset would maybe be the perfect price to weight and longivity mix.

[@WordupG]

Same conclusion for me

[@JuniorMineiroMTB]

I mount GX with XO casset and crankset 😂😂😂😂 perfect union

[@francismcgowan5915]

Thanks so much for this video. This answers exactly my questions about the drive chain

[@ms.karihart2983]

We’ll certainly didn’t see that coming , I believe your assessment is spot on

[@JacesOwnWorld]

This is really good to know. I have been away from the biking scene for the last 7 years, but I am currently researching bike companies for my next enduro bike, and piecing together parts I would like to have on the bike. I have noticed that there are so many new components, so many different component names, and finding this transmission thing has been all new to me, and to be honest, a little bit confusing. But I know the SRAM transmission is something I would like to have, as I see my new bike as something I don't really want to upgrade for the life of the bike, unless I have to. The price difference between the GX and the XX transmission from SRAM is pretty significant, so its really good to know that the GX system performs just as good as the XX version. My enduro bike will be ridden 95% downhill, so weight in grams does not matter to me.

[@cibablea]

The absolute best information abou these systems to be found online. Thank you.

[@leedove7255]

Even the GX makes the Pinion MGU good value. 😀

[@myriamrenefischer2867]

Maybe worth mentioning that the X0 crank in this video is the e-bike version? The X0 comes with a cut out for bio-bikes and is lighter.

[@SpringmausZH]

Hey Rob, great video! Another question: in the last picture you can see a cable connected to the GX rear derailleur. Is the rear derailleur already available for e-bikes without a battery? Thanks

[@DanEscapes]

Great video Rob, really helped me understand the new sram group sets. I’m still running mechanical shimano but very interested in upgrading to SRAMs new system and the GX would be the one I go for. Should I save my money or use it for another upgrade, maybe suspension.

[@danielpatino81]

I do like the way Sram located the battery in the GX it gives me a better sense of my battery not falling off, and it makes the system look more compact. I do have the old GX AXS in one bike and the new GX transmission in my E-bike and honestly both systems work just fine!!

[@76ram1]

Brilliant consumer review. Well done Rob.

[@claudiovic88]

What I would like to know is new T-type transmission vs regular groupset longevity, do you feel it lasts significantly longer?

[@philhicks5818]

Works for me , I’d go for the cheapest gx model even if I had £1800 to spend , as I not a fan of the silver on the pricier versions , Rob does the new drive trains really out perform the old axs which I have atm

[@crush1221]

Would love to see an 11 or even 10 speed version of the beefier transmission design for e-bikes. 12 speed seems like a waste and the chains break easier... but that derailleur looks strong!

[@MTB_CRZY]

Thats exactly why they went to a flat top chain..

[@Noshillzone]

Really cool video! Underrated channel

[@chainsymtb]

Awesome comparison , What chainring was you running?

[@KP-ol3tc]

My Odyssey bmx hollow pin chain has a hex key master pin and I love how quick and simple it is. Is that something the transmission chain has or is it a regular master? Random question, I know lol

[@chickenclips]

that is a sick t-shirt, Rob - great vid as always

[@propylaeen]

Arn't these for eMTBs? SO what is 100 grams when your whole system is just under 25kg?

[@giannislazatube]

Nice video!!! two questions....i have a YT Capra CF Comp 2015 bike, is it compatible with the new GX. What is this nice black surface on your desk? Thank you!

[@dcv9460]

AWESOME COMPARISON! AWESOME VID! Thank you for this 💯👍😎

[@michalmalanowicz7595]

I'm using almost anything as cheap as possible, but went for XO chain, because in my case - it really lasts twice as long as other counterparts. Maybe it's because I don't really clean or lube the chain as often as I should and I ride in winters as well.... but, this is how it works in my case.

[@nl3712]

Same here. That chain is indestructible

[@hannes6114]

No, more expensive chains can actually last much longer according to studies.

[@nl3712]

@@hannes6114 XO shown in tests to last longer than any other SRAM 12-sp chain. i cannot believe the difference when compared to using GX-level (whatever they are call) chains - probably 3X or more longer on my bike (riding in a variety of conditions but mostly dry).

[@hannes6114]

@@nl3712 same, it is weird that they last so much longer

[@barryrowles8851]

Great video. Where was the riding footage shot?

Thanks for comparing! But where can I get that cable for power supply on the ebike ???

[@2wheelsonline]

Great heads up on the weights, etc! I have Park Tools scales for components and complete bikes and I weigh EVERYTHING! Light tyres & wheels are tops for me. I don't have an emtb these days (now a much lighter mtb) but did weigh everything trying to get my 2018 Vitus E-Sommet as light as I could afford. 21kg was the 'lightest' 🤣

[@clivejones-zs4rg]

love the product placement

[@glennmorgan8691]

Awesome job on the deep dive video Rob thx!!! It looks just like the original axs line up value wise gx for the win.I have the non udh gx axs on my xt drive train(sramano) and love it,I am curious to see if the new gx tt would work as well as the non udh on a shimano drive train?ps Rob did you manage to get the 54tooth dt ratchet for your hub yet?

[@sendyboiii7]

so my understanding is that you use a sram derailleur on a shimano cassette and chain? Does that really work well without increased wear? I thought about maybe doing that because I broke one tooth on my cassette anyway and will need to replace it and the chain

[@glennmorgan8691]

@@sendyboiii7 Hi Chris.Yes it shifts excellent without any noticeable more wear.I use silca hot melt wax on all my e-mtb's.You would also need a micro spline free hub body if your running a sram cassette now.A youtuber I know has an excellent video on the sramano setup check it out his channel is lovemtb.If you do the switch use an xtr chain they have the best longevity out of the shamano 12 speed chains.Cheers!!!

[@sendyboiii7]

@@glennmorgan8691 thanks man. would switch because I have a nx cassette which is just bad but uses microspline. thanks for the infos I´ll maybe try it

[@CarkooNtheGoD]

Good to see you using new canyon strive ^^

[@johnmackie71]

Great vid Rob. Thanks

[@hanstubben]

In the SRAM line-up GX is always the answer!

[@dasanoneia4730]

i like how robust it looks will definitely consider in the future

[@clintondavies8098]

Great comparison how does it compare to the old version? 🤔

[@neilmartinez143]

How would you compare the durability after the amount of miles you’ve put on them? Is it better than the traditional AXS(non T-type)?

[@LaT1NaS0]

The clutch on the old GX AXS was horrible and caused a lot of chain slap, assuming there is no difference in the clutch compared to the XX and XO this definitely seems like the better option. The hardest test is seeing what they are like long term. SRAM talks about the durability of these new drivetrains, time will only tell i guess.

[@Chunky246]

But it wasn't so much the clutch (yes it's a bit weak), its the fact that the whole DR flops around as there is no cable housing anymore to hold it in place.

[@LexaBukreev]

video quality is awsome! Picture is 10+

[@robertwehlau7220]

So your saying the NX transmission group set is the one to buy? Even over the GX ?

[@chillout1109]

0:00 Jeezus! That's either a ginormous derailleur, or Rob has tiny hands.

[@topgundk]

How about the remotes that comes with the drivetrains. It looks like there is a difference there. Any observations on those in regards to qulity and feel ? Asking because i just received my Canyon Spectral:ON CF 9 yesterday with the GX version on it.

[@WordupG]

Exact same remote on all models

[@mariop.4898]

Apart from the weight difference between GX and XO, what materials are used in each of the cassettes? If different materials are used, what is the wear and tear?

[@alexeyfedosov9184]

with regards to me - I am happy with my old sram GX ASX at 500USD, don't want this UDH until all this stuff gets much cheaper

[@Superteastain]

Best video ever dude. You just saved me a ton of dough!

[@billderas3420]

Rob. Were you able to use the new GX cranks that came in the gruppo on your e-bike?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

yes - they were Bosch GX Crank arms 👊

[@markroberts7866]

So going from a shimano deore derailleur with a chain and cassette that don’t match on my trek fuel exe this wireless GX drive train should feel incredible?

[@chriswiles87]

Nice, was thinking of getting timp peak fezzari with a GX Transmission

[@aubreyhaines7282]

Very honest review 🎉👌

[@gavindean]

do they do a crankset for the Ep8?

[@sidney9115]

hello I have a focus jam2 6.8 2022 and I would like to switch to a coil shok but I can't find any recommendation to know which can fit if you have an idea Sorry to ask you this, but I don't know where to find this information. THANKS

[@erqs865]

Weren't they talking about the price point of the gx to be around 800 bucks? I could def be wrong.

[@brendansherlock6442]

I follow the law of diminishing returns, if you've no budget, go for the best, but dont be fooled into thinking the ratio of cost to improvement is linear

[@emtbtrailrider539]

Awesome video 🇺🇸

[@Daniel-zq3ic]

man I just don't understand what's the difference between axs and transmission. Is it that transmission is made for shifting under load and axs not so much?

[@IMac8939]

The price difference between the non ebike groupsets is even worse. I mean 1180 for AXS GX T-Type vs 1700 for the AXS X0 T-Type. Today on ebay I spotted 1 discounted AXS X0 for 1400 delivered, BUT that is still £220 more for zero performance and very little weight saving. I also much prefer the newer GX AXS hidden/more protected battery design. ONLY thing I like more with the X0 is the cranks with the cut out section in them.

[@junglegymbali5136]

I got to use gearboxes even electric gearboxes with electronic shifting that's the future you show just antique Technik cheers from Bali I cycle since 1970 daily

[@walrusinanus]

Wait what? Where did you get the X0 cranks? Those are supposed to have a hole where there is just that protrusion on GX. Weird stuff!

[@seanhammond4527]

I have gx on my trek roscoe 8 happy with it

[@sergiocantu112]

Does The gx crank is compatible for the new , xx chainring ??

[@In_dependent]

are the components interchangeable? ( same way as current eagle lineup ) ?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Yes 👍

[@lukasvrana6388]

I had same thoughts 2 months ago when I ordered custom DH bike - I put GX (DH version) on it, price jump to X0 was too much compared to performance/weight

[@felixbecker8296]

still that one driveterrain is more expensive than my entire bike 😭

[@sebsoud]

it's said it's entry level, so it means that sx/nx productions are stopped?

[@tomerg2]

Nice review! I'm not sure how accurate this is but I've heard beyond weight saving (specifically for chains), sram's hollow pin chains are significantly more wear resistance than their lower tier chains (Other than the chain it really seems like a no brainier and go for GX)

[@ihateblacky]

they wear well but they are super inefficient compered to other chains

[@ssmtb]

@@ihateblacky interesting, so they transfer power less efficiently? Got any reference videos/post or just based on personal experience?

[@martinekliw]

What happened to the XO crank ? It had a cut out in the arm. At least mine has it 🤷‍♂️

[@RobRidesEMTB]

eMTB crank is slightly different :-)

[@martinekliw]

​@RobRidesEMTB oh.. right. There is the ebike version also. I guess at least the normal version crank is very different than the GX crank. Looms like the GX crank is now the same for ebike and non ebikes.

[@ronlind1757]

GX all day... could change out cassette to XO for weight if that's a concern, and it's all good!

[@tekal23]

How has the longevity been?

[@nikadsf670]

If I had the frame, I would go for this GX, but man, my SLX 12S is so awesome, I can't even imagine something better than it

[@billybennett4203]

Rob can you change the Jockey wheel off the GX for one of the more expensive wheels?

[@leedove7255]

Why would you even want to do that?

[@billybennett4203]

@@leedove7255 well in video’s on the higher end brands it shows a stick being placed in the jockey wheels and it still has ability to keep turning because of the design. So seems like a good feature to have whilst out in the woods. Where you have chances of getting stuff caught in there.

[@leedove7255]

@@billybennett4203 Looks to me like the higher end wheels have bigger holes so MORE chance of getting something stuck in it ;-)

[@robertmitev1202]

Would be great if someone could develop some sort of a system whereby non UDH hanger bike could use this system, like my mondraker.

[@vidibites]

Video request ; Comparison on the Shimano Freeshift tech please.

[@tomdosdos7179]

Well there you have it. Who wouldn’t want to pay more for the “slight, ever so slight” different sound? 😂

[@RobHill00]

My XX didn’t cost £1800 and doesn’t have the magic wheel? Might be because it was the Bosch e-bike set?🤔

[@growlith6969]

If you want to play devil's advocate, you could have identical parts with different heat treating and coating methods, even if you threw out the possibility that it's the same molds and designs but different alloy type all together.

[@Silkl4sh]

As always IMHO just go for GX with XX chain.

[@LeanForLife989]

I saw it on a Chinese factory for $498, so that's about $700 profit each time they get someone to buy it. Also, if ur weight conscious consider going on a run.

[@gbshenanigans6952]

Can you take the bottom peace off the xx and put it on the gx?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Yes! They’re modular like that so you can run XX cage for sure on GX!

[@Twentykixx]

Actually, the GX cassette will wear out very quickly on an e-bike. This should be pointed out that the real problem with the GX will be the cassette, so piece out the setup if you’re really pinching pennies, or go to the X0 for the premium cassette. 👍🏼

[@IIISentorIII]

Bullshit... ;)

[@dft1]

can you run xo cassette with gx everything else?

[@Twentykixx]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@dft1Yes, for the Standard AXS group set all of the components are interchangeable/compatible across the lineup. Not the new SRAM Transmission AXS group set however, completely different and incompatible unfortunately.

[@j2kub]

Well, that's the trick to make super expensive drivetrain and then just expensive looks like good deal.

[@maccie101]

yet another MTB upgrade I'll never afford. Can still dream though

[@arthurslee4189]

I love GX!!!!!

[@captlevi1579]

How i wish to have a mtb 🥺❤️

[@Hmmmppffff]

So two groupsets would have done the Job perfectly fine XD But hey. Lets so three

[@IIISentorIII]

Shimano DEORE XT is the way to go for Performance. And for Performance value Shimano SLX with a Deore XT Shifter. 😁

[@Logansix]

Very interesting video. I recently got the "old" SRAM GX AXS on my new Trek Fuel EXe. But my bike shop can't get it to adjust well. It either hangs in the high gears or in the low gears. What is the reason for this? Unfortunately, I don't know much about it.

[@mtnbikerva1]

Crooked frame?

[@thim8009]

Man, I just can't spend that much. I hope I don't ever try one, I know I would want one. I'll stick with my slx.

[@ujjalmanna6721]

my dream is MTB rayder ❤

[@justind5262]

I thought xo had cutouts in the crank arm?

[@mattaklein]

I’ve got XO cranks and they have a cut out

[@stephendenagy3396]

The GX rocks. It is not cheap. It is the best money I ever spent.

[@redlinemoto.]

i like it the problem is my frame not design to mount that kind of RD

[@CoyoteMTB77]

I think Rob has unraveled SRAM’s marketing in 10 minutes!! Twitching bums at HQ perhaps 🤪🤪🤣🤣

[@scjgreen]

Last time i checked wasnt SX the Entry Level?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Correct, on mechanical anyway 👍

[@Rawkus919]

OK. I'm convinced.

[@razorree]

well.... good luck, ONLY BIGGER AND MORE EXPENSIVE.... easy to destroy, so good for Sram, coz you need a new one soon.... I'll stay with Shimano Linkglide on my eMTB (currently I use 11-46s, M8000 XT drivetrain - proper MTB rear mech. almost completely flush with a frame, hard to destroy, durable, cheap.)

[@Zetler]

Buying a gear box motor will be the real saving.

[@ivanteo1973]

30 grams difference. that's a weight of a energy gel.

[@IIISentorIII]

It could easily be the difference between life or death!

[@DaSmokeDaddy]

Probably not the correct place to ask, but how should I upgrade my NS system?

[@hannes6114]

NS System?

[@DaSmokeDaddy]

Sorry about that, typo. Like I said, it's probably the wrong place to ask. I have the old SRAM NX system. I wasn't sure if some of the components were upgradeable to the higher end systems.

[@hannes6114]

@@DaSmokeDaddy the cassette definitely isnt, it has the standard shimano hg and not the xd or microspline standard

[@hannes6114]

With old do you mean 11 speed?

[@Lenswide]

They are all crazy expensive anyway