[SSBU] A Sword Character's WORST Nightmare

[@aann]

SIDE NOTE !!! yeah i know there’s a few other anti swordie picks, sheik, greninja, diddy, etc, but I like inkling and I feel like she’s specifically designed to beat swordies sometimes and its funny and i wanted to talk about inkling

[@yoshidude8345]

Wouldn't Sonic be one of them too? I mean he can effectively punish a sword character's move with his speed right?

[@mandalorianhunter1]

​@@yoshidude8345Yeah he definitely is, I been playing that since Brawl

[@MSCDonkeyKong]

Lucina players: Oh boy, I love covering space and making the opponent's approach really risky! Inkler and Jonkling: That's cool, I have a gun.

[@tamaya6680]

Never in a million years would I have thought someone was gonna say that inkling is a good counter pick to swordies let alone call her a swordie killer

[@aidenvega6306]

Inkling is one character i wanted for smash. Nowadays I play GnW competitively and was tired of losing to ikes and shulks. So I've picked up many characters. Mainly diddy to be the swordie stomper. He's SO hard tho. Maybe I go back to my origins now

[@mltprngkim391]

Diddy you say 😏

[@adoyo]

Ah yes indeed, Diddy is indeed really hard, hard as a rock when using him 😊

[@RickyG93]

Shulk is such BS. I struggle vs Ike too. Other swordies no prob but Ike and Shulk are a nightmare.

[@Supersonic37838]

Diddy can outrange most swordies these days, he makes the stage really slippery with his banana peels.

[@lowlink534]

​@@Supersonic37838 You just gotta practice banana peel setups 3 hours a day like Tweek 😂🎉

[@l.aerosmusic]

When I saw the masked Lucina mod I was thinking "is that in the game?" "I dont recognize it but i dont play Lucina maybe I'm just dumb" and then I saw the fucking miranda cosgrove cloud and it made sense

[@shrutikmk]

top 10 inkling in the world here good video few things i do disagree with but big picture does encapsulate inkling vs swordies hopefully will inspire more ppl to play her

[@vgrants1717]

Wait, which things? Please enlighten us with thy knowledge

[@some_yeast8267]

hi shrutik

[@shrutikmk]

@@some_yeast8267 hello yeast

[@shrutikmk]

​@@vgrants1717 a lot of swordies have grounded pokes or low hitting pokes to counteract inkling dash, which forces her to jump to punish it. if she jumps, swordie aerials are online again. swordies 100% have the ability to deal with the dash by overshooting on inkling's dash with a tilt for example and then either forcing her in shield or a jump. once that RPS is generated the inkling generally has to be better to find an opening

[@vgrants1717]

@ But if swordies try to play defensive, can’t Inkling pressure them with Splattershot and bomb? Sure, it won’t kill, but damage is damage and fairly free stage control is good. I know Inkling usually plays right outside of the opponents threat bubble to bait and punish, but if you force them to act first, can’t you just punish that? Idk, maybe I’m completely wrong, but I like to use neutral and down b quite a bit on Inkling, cause if I don’t, I may as well play Bayo or ZSS Edit: I watched your video on Inkling kinda dying, and thank you for putting Rosa as a losing mu. I thought I was the only one

[@Crafti0ne]

Finally, a video talking about how inkling is good in 2024

[@aann]

inkling KICKS ASSSS LETS GOOO

[@OnlineKILLER_rip]

I WANNA GO PRO WITH INKLING❤

[@PERSONALEEMG]

agree. those characters you mentioned. (gren, sheik, inkling) low profile like crazy, and they have a gimping win con that they will go for given the oportunity. they have the "I dont have to hit you to beat you" gameplan that is effective on swordies.

[@squishy.mp4]

Been an inkling player for 6 years and it’s a blessing when I find a swordie in bracket aside from a few (seph and cloud specifically) Overall good video can confirm most of the stuff is accurate 🔥

[@aann]

so truth ‼️ i actually forgot you played inkling lol should’ve asked you for info too

[@RickyG93]

I actually like the Seph MU. We go under everything even more lol.

[@squishy.mp4]

@@RickyG93 yeah we bully him in neutral but actually killing him is a pain, your rarely getting a good roller on him, up throw up air is a myth on him, and seph has one of the best disadvantages in the entire game making it hard to edgeguard and ledge trap him. He basically gets to play with wing the whole game which is horrible for us. Not saying it’s impossible just he’s actually one of the hardest characters to kill for inkling even though he’s as light as kirby (also w pfp lol”

[@RickyG93]

@@squishy.mp4 I've managed uthrow uair and Rollers on him consistently I'm pretty sure. I also found methods for edge guarding him, and for ledge trapping I just don't rely on Splat Bomb that much because of the planking. Tho a lot of Sephs and other swordies love to try and counter Splat Bomb at ledge which is a free parry on reaction.

[@SoulHero7]

As a Mii Swordie main, I haven't had many problems with fighting Inkling. Down Tilt, Nado, and Forward Tilt help stop the dash spam, and I run Airborne Assualt for recovery and grounded mixups. Most Swordies have either a fast disjointed down tilt, a Counter, or both to stop awkward approaches and force opponents to play by our gameplan. It's hard sometimes, but I try to adapt my playstyle to my opponent if I notice my standard combos aren't working.

[@aann]

i like that. Mii swordie is pretty fun, shouls really experiment with more projectiles though

[@ZuzNewsReviews]

Who knew swords couldn't cut through paint?

[@nabbitgohome9672]

Great now I can’t stop thinking (though I don’t mind it) about the male and female inklings doing the whole India jones scene (you know the one)

[@dagoodboy6424]

Interesting. Its an even matchup for mii sword 2113. I never struggled ag inkling although i suck at mashing outve roller burry. Mii brawler also does very well ag her.

[@aann]

woah,, will look into it, mii swordie is way fun but i run PURE melee. suboptimal I know but rly fun lmao. could be a good idea to experiment a little more with 2113

[@RickyG93]

Inkling main with tons of Lucina experience here (Mr. E). MU is 55/45. Wouldn't call Inky a swordie counter outright tho as we definitely lose to Cloud and Shulk and I wouldn't call Chroy, Ike, or Seph winning MUs either. Also fyi Splattershot suuuucks vs Lucina. You can just Up B it either oos or even if it hits you. And before you say "just zone with it" that's usually not worth it. It's often a waste of ink which you'll need and it doesn't do much, plus you can just swat it if you max space any aerial as a swordie. It's better as a landing option, ledge mixup (not against Luci tho due to Up B), edge guard tool, or in specific scenarios in other matchups (stops Spin Dash, gets rid of Gyro, blows up Snake's grenades). Just space bairs instead, it's better in every matchup that doesn't have some utility purpose for the Splattershot like the ones I mentioned. There are better ways to get people inked up anyway, namely rapid jab. You only need them half inked for the full benefit of it, so a rapid jab will generally suffice. At high percents you can use Splattershot to clear your stale list, but I wouldn't recommend it over saving ink for a Splat Bomb ledge trap if you're low on ink (which odds are you are low on ink if they're at high percent).

[@opo4724]

thanks for saying it how it is, i do NOT think it's that much of an advantage 😭 i mean im not an inkling main but a chroy main; so im just having trouble believing inkling has much of an advantage vs me, if anything.

[@RickyG93]

@opo4724 We don't. We're not a swordie counter. We do okay vs Lucina and also Byleth, but other swordies are even or beat us. I will say that Seph would be winning for us if it wasn't for One Wing, which lasts forever since we can't kill reliably. Shulk is a disaster matchup. Ike nair and dtilt deletes Inkling. Cloud is Cloud. Chroy is slightly less problematic than these, but similar to Cloud it's a case of just getting better charactered a lot. Same with Corrin.

[@opo4724]

@@RickyG93 yea fr, the inkling glaze was kind of crazy in this video especially since he only really talked about marth/lucina and no other matchup. like i think inkling is cool asf but im not seeing it vs most swordies that arent lucina or byleth as you said

[@bigtoblerone8446]

Counters or counter-like moves also help against mashy swordies constantly swinging aerials tilts and specials to cover space; just look at mkleo's recent match against spargo where he kept reading him with down b Seph i think has a better match up against swordies than most people seem to think since his counter like move acts funny, being a more explosion like hitbox in front of him that activates, some swordie landing aerials that would otherwise be safe against a traditional counter move are not safe at that range or angle against seph's "counter" move

[@hotnchili]

Would also consider greninja as an anti swordie character

[@aann]

that’s true! the playstyle is pretty similar

[@lowlink534]

By that logic ZSS would be too but she's supposed to struggle against Roy and Cloud (or maybe it's just Marss losing to Spargo? lmao, I do beat most Clouds, but I lose to random Lucinas and Marths because Ifdk the range or speed of their moves 😂🎉)

[@bcon1308]

@@lowlink534 respectfully, no. As someone who put a lot of time into both, Gren is really ZSS+. Shuriken is better than stun gun, better grab/pivot grab, actual combos, fair and bair are leagues better than ZSS', all tilts and smash attacks are better, and Gren can use up b in a relatively similar fashion to flip jump. ZSS has a much harder time against swordies and kind of everyone else also than Gren does because of how many playstyles he has.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

I would say Sonic is a anti swordue character I know a lot of people say he gets walled out, but he has a lot of options to open up the character, catch their landings and edge guard them. I also think Lucario is another example, at first he has to fight them but when gets aura, he can start spacing them out. I been using these characters for multiple games against swordies. I do play K. Rool against sword characters

[@shadowraith10]

Good thing I'm a Link main so, I'm not like other swordies. (I can camp you out, combo you, or outspace you all in one kit.)

[@lowlink534]

I'm not like other swordies, I spam projectiles and nair, which is a really active kick 😂🎉

[@DogeKingOfficial]

I remember when you were talking about this vid on stream lol ❤ (love from Australia) VEGEMITEEEE

[@mjdevlog]

I hope the top players use inkling more as a wildcard counterpick. Like, i dunno, Sonix picking up inkling to counter Sparg0's Roy would be hype as fuck

[@lajazziamacklin8418]

The CPU Inkling has a habit of burying me into the ground. I'm not even joking. However, my amiibo have managed to get around Inkling and beat the living daylights out of her.

[@jesusportillo201]

As a Sephiroth main I can confirm that this character is a fucking nightmare

[@lowlink534]

I think there's more characters that are a nightmare to Seph than to other swordies though, he's quite a bit slow, for the most part, Nair is fast but even as a get off me tool it's hard to hit because they have to be literally touching you

[@jesusportillo201]

@lowlink534 Oh I know. Inkling is just one of them. Fox, Sheik, the rats and Diddy are way worse

[@TheKingsCard]

Why are you so underrated?? W Video!

[@aann]

i appreciate it :)) don’t worry, I have big plans for this channel

[@zukosvfx]

Early peak video

[@aann]

@@zukosvfx glad you enjoyed the peak ‼️ also nice makoto profile pic 🫶🏻

[@MSCDonkeyKong]

In traditional fighters, you can create whiff punish opportunities with walking in and out of your opponents attack range, but this is really hard in Smash because walking has this weird acceleration on it for a lot of characters, and that makes it really hard to use it for whiff punishes or to find good use cases for it. (I do like it for landing tippers as Marth or Ridley though). Dashes actually do work as a good tool for this but they require good enough stats to reliably do and you're locked out of a lot of options when you do it since Dash Attack now overtakes most of your normals. As a result, I think whiff punishing can be kinda tricky for a lot of characters to do in Ultimate compared to other fighters since we're working with these as our options, and that means some characters are gonna have easier time with whiff punishing than others. It relies a lot more on good moves and stats to do, moreso than trad fighters or a game like Melee with it's less committal movement options like Dash Dancing and Wavedashing. It also makes sense that characters like Inkling and Joker and Greninja are gonna be really good at whiff punishing, because unlike Mario and Falcon, they have options that hit from a long range really quickly. Mario's Fireball is kinda slow compared to Inkling and Jonkler's guns and shuriken. Having a disjoint on top of that, a low profile dash, and a rushing special? Makes total sense why Inkling shits on Swordies like this. That's a kit with a lot of swordie's weaknesses, meaning more nonsense that swordie players gotta look out for. It's much harder to look out for several good tools than it is looking out for one good tool.

[@lowlink534]

Yeah, some characters like Falcon have really slow turn arounds which makes them kinda shit at footsies like that, maybe we need more shmovement in the next game?

[@lowlink534]

I like Inkling but I think having to mash out of roller is cringe, a guy at my locals plays her and this time I was ok I'm just gonna shield and not get hit by roller, I did that for a while but then he just hit a random roller while recovering, then I remembered I had to mash, but he was already coming to forward smash me, and the effort it would take to probably die anyway wasn't worth it so I just watched as I died... Also, if I beat his Inkling, he's just gonna pickup MinMin, so the cringe never ends 😂

[@brezzybee9559]

In the words of my favorite ssb streamer when they see cloud "MIDDDD" If you know you know

[@camoking3609]

because she brought a gun

[@HaarSSB]

There are lot of spanish cursewords on the tags of players you're facing in Elite Smash in this video and it getting so distracting for me lmao Good vid bud, nice analysis on a forgotten character

[@xtroyr_5747]

I love shielding, if I did not, I would be playin melee

[@CharlieTurnip]

The modded models are top notch

[@aann]

@@CharlieTurnip I love them too ‼️ I left some links on my pinned comment if you’re interested in getting some!

[@Evixyn]

I like Woomy in this title and the nerfs are noticeable. Now she seems a little too honest outside of roller set ups, but if anyone get hit by roller, that means you're just a terrible player. Personal I prefer jump man against sword characters then woomy as he has more jank his combos and consistent ways to set it up at any percent to take stocks.

[@aann]

@@Evixyn lol yea roller isn’t nearly as broken as we thought it was but it’s so good to catch tech rolls

[@CipherKnighto]

Ahem Sheik, Diddler, Greninja 💀

[@aann]

i do mention them in 2:22 nerd inkling is just my homie and sheik was recently arrested by the police so inkling it is

[@CipherKnighto]

@@aann oh damn when’s the trial

[@kevton1397]

Why Diddler for Diddy?

[@D4rkVIolet]

im learning mapul in Rivals 2, she can prolly do the same things lowkey

[@wormslugsnail]

2:30 Thats not me...

[@MagnetonPlayer_2]

Inkling will forever be, to me at least, like finding the Terrifier clown. From Robin, to Chrom, to Mii SF. I will forever dread finding an Inkling online. Nice video dude ❤

[@aann]

@@MagnetonPlayer_2 glad u enjoyed it :)) yea inkling is a pain to fight sometimes lmao

[@sebaschan-uwu]

I play chrom and I don't think inkling is particularly hard to fight since chrom's neutral game is top 10

[@Wario_B]

0:34 we all do dude.

[@aann]

i got min min’d 🤬

[@lowlink534]

Po po po poker face

[@Dontannoyme34894]

I never see her in tournament

[@outofcontextallen3408]

0:26 sour spot and/or you staled it a bunch

[@aann]

most likely! thankfully i was the yellow inkling there lol, still i really thought being that close to the blast zone would mean I’d die for sure

[@RickyG93]

​​@@aann Bair is stingy won't kill if it's not fresh no matter what. Trade off for being the best bair in the game in every other way I guess. Thankfully if you know bair is stale you can substitute it with fair or nair. Fair lingers so long that you can use it like a Link nair. Just jump above and go for it. Even the sour spot is good for its low angle, and once you get the hang of using it you can nail sweet spots too. And nair is surprisingly strong when fresh. The startup hitbox of Up B is also insanely good for gimps. Sometimes I just do drop zone Up B back to ledge just to put that hitbox there. It's insane how often people double jump into it and just die, especially with characters like Roy or Wolf. Oh and don't be afraid to try using Splattershot offstage, it can intrupt recoveries and you can then nair (or dtilt if ur on stage). Characters like Diddy, Ness, and Jr. fold to it as well.

[@Bomberman64x]

Kazuya Mishima

[@plastickkerorolm4889]

I stand by this opinion. Lucina is boneless aegis.

[@aann]

idk what u mean by this but facts

[@plastickkerorolm4889]

@aann i think lucina is over looked. I think she has many of the advantages of mythra without alot of the drawbacks. Same with pyra. She's the even middle. I think she actually is actually like mid high teir.

[@plastickkerorolm4889]

Like simply put. When I play luinca I don't feel like I'm looking for the same opportunities as Marth. Infact I feel like I'm looking for aegis setups. Forward tilt spacing, uptilt coverage, disengaging with forward air and juggle setups. They feel way more like aegis rather than Marth.

[@EternalPizzaALT]

I still wonder what your pfp is

[@BamSnoozled]

Holly peak

[@chipi4179]

Inkling gang

[@karelissomoved1505]

then there's byleth

[@AegisZentix]

Nice mods lol

[@Koots-g9i]

DK

[@Yoster_05]

FUTABA

[@myorangesarenice1122]

Guyana

[@aann]

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