The Way We Learn Games Makes Us Bad At Them

[@crSIMBA]

If the Yotube Algorithm sent this to me does it mean Yotube thinks I'm swinging to much in neutral???

[@MikeyDLuffy]

@@crSIMBA unfortunately it knows best

[@jeanschyso]

Of course not. Keep living your best live buddy

[@ScrubSuiNoHado]

The algorithm send this to me too and i most definitely swing, jump and di too much in SF6 therefore i'm afraid you are swinging too much in neutral.

[@Cooldad_dpj]

I had the same thoughts 😂

[@vetri99tsukuya20]

The replay takeover feature is the most fun/best part of this game. I am CONSTANTLY seeing situations where me walking away/jumping instead of staying in place kept me from capitalizing on my opponent's mistakes

[@MikeyDLuffy]

@@vetri99tsukuya20 yea such a game changer. Every FG needs this feature haha

[@TheMoonPersonTV]

i cant even lie this is a lesson i've learned and re-learned so many times and it ALWAYS works until I get impatient and think "ok i need to start winning games in 2 minutes" and my GSP blows up smh

[@MikeyDLuffy]

@@TheMoonPersonTV your offense is always too good in every game so it makes sense you feel the urge to end games in 2 minutes 😅

[@F0xdash]

you know, now that i see this video, this hits me. when i started Gran Blue vs rising i was just some casual joe, learning to play this game. i faced others at my level, i lost most than i win, but the matches were fun because we were in the same level, i just lack knowledge. then i get better and have a good insight of the matches, so i level up my rank to face more challenging players and i get destroyed... quite stressful. then i learned more of the game mechanics and i still lose hard, but i noticed that some matches i win because i had patience to see what my oponent is doing. i still lack more experience, though, but when i face people on my level i can see clearly that i am too impatient, too careless. i need to ease my mind and make actions more reasonable... this video is a good insight of what i have seen but not noticed yet.

[@gentlekef8653]

Very interesting point my friend, since I play akuma this extra applies lol! Still for me I was a bit too lame, learning to be more pro active was a big game changer for me. Happy to see another mindset video!

[@lostporpoise8883]

Kinda funny im on the opposite end of the spectrum, i like playing everyone so i dont actually spend time learning combos and end up having to hit people way more than they have to hit me, i leave too much damage on the table. But damn if my neutral isnt good

[@a1337turtle]

you can try playing games where you dont really need to lab a ton? I like the older SF games for this reason

[@TimTam854]

I love these videos where you challenge us to think, re-evaluate and reassess. Thanks for sharing great content, you're one of my favourite creators.

[@MikeyDLuffy]

@@TimTam854 appreciate the kind words!

[@forgottengodsthatliveamong137]

Yo this is such a good video. Very to the point and informative. Honestly, it's crazy to think that this concept is so simple yet a lot of people, especially myself, can miss this and lose themselves in the endless grind for improvement. I'm gonna try my best to keep this vid in mind whenever I'm playing smash in the future and I'll see how much I can improve with this info. Thank you so much! Absolutely earned my sub!

[@RohanKumar-ci9sl]

This applies to a ton of games honestly. Val, League, Deadlock, Tekken, etc etc

[@MikeyDLuffy]

@@RohanKumar-ci9sl yea agreed! I can list examples of games that are nothing like fighting games and it can still apply, but I didn't want to bloat the video

[@NotLoopine]

Been thinking about this alot lately. Fighting Game pros focusing on neutral rather than grinding slightly more optimal combos, MOBA pros who are genuinely mediocre mechanically but have great macro game sense and anticipation, even souls players who never truly learned HOW to learn a boss and were carried by their reaction speed. I feel like we waste time focusing on all the wrong things, but I needed all this time in-game to realize what the truly important aspects of these games were. More people need to hear messages like this, it would not only save you time, but shape your enjoyment of the game

[@sendo__]

The thing about focusing on neutral is that newer FGs (specifically SF6 as my example,) rewards unga bunga behavior for skipping neutral. If you don't check a raw DR, your opponent just skips neutral and the mixup options are insane and you get punished heavy just for trying to play footsies.

[@321Tdog]

I always play way better when I consciously be more patient (usually when I have a good nights sleep). An additional advantage is that I can when my opponent is being _too_ passive and I know I can push offence a bit more than normal

[@LewisGeter]

Crazy because I was venting how I kept forcing interactions too much in smash bros. Just for you to basically solve that issue for me. Appreciate it !!!

[@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821]

Punk's ability to punish you at max range where your button doesn't hit him, but his hits yours, is such an overwhelming ability at a high level of play. Let me cite a key example. There's this Rashid in the US Midwest, named Dual Kevin, and his whole approach as a Rashid main, is playing extremely fundamentally sound neutral, pushing you to the corner, then landing crazy mix ups, setting up Level 2's, OD spinning mixer etc. Dual Kevin enjoys this ability of having stronger footsies to play his game, and he's probably a top 5, if not top 3, Rashid in the world for it. But when he faces Punk, that footsies advantage goes out the window, the roundhouse Rashid uses pretty freely against other pros is practically bait for Punk's crouching medium punch. All these advantages he usually enjoys with other opponents, goes out the window, because at Punk's best ANY over extension can result in a lost round, he becomes damn near a computer in space, in terms of speed, it is freakish, and terrifying to see when he's working in prime form. @Mikey D.

[@pizzaboy220]

Great vid as usual Mikey. It's interesting that you mention the Overwatch vid because I think the first time I learned this concept was when I was trying to get good at Halo 3 as a kid, and was given this advice regarding BR duels that unless I had the jump on the other guy to just duck my head and run away, and that it was way more important to try to lower the D portion of KDA than to increase the K.

[@MikeyDLuffy]

@@pizzaboy220 haha for me growing up playing Halo, I was just trying to run at people with the Beam sword. It took me way long to learn to chill in any game haha

[@pizzaboy220]

@@MikeyDLuffy tbf if there's a beam sword in my hand, there will be no chilling lmao

[@Dominant_Pant]

Great video and great advice! I know your content is mostly SF focused but as a ssbu player i would really appreciate a video covering how to stop mashers. Roys aerials are + on whiff and it drives me mad

[@jessemack4863]

I appreciate your videos so much brother

[@MikeyDLuffy]

@@jessemack4863 and I appreciate you watching them!

[@nathaniel1940]

tbh i never really tried to improve at fighting games because i figured i'd never be good because trying to lab out combos always sounded boring. but i got into rivals 2 with no concern for improving or learning techskill or anything and i could feel myself getting a lot better and i wasn't really sure how. this almost seems to explain that, and makes me feel more confident in my own potential

[@ChillOut_Gaming]

Another banger, can't wait to try to implement this but end up running at people with my brain off

[@affinity601]

channel interaction

[@MikeyDLuffy]

@@affinity601 my goat

[@nextos]

Thanks for releasing videos again

[@ViviBuchlaw]

You play action games to find out who you wish you could be You play fighting games to find out who you really are The more you think of Fighting Games as a martial art and not an excuse to push buttons, the farther you will go

[@MikeyDLuffy]

Bro is talking truths

[@RivermanGillz]

"defense wins championships" - Mikey D.

[@MuJoNeSs]

1:15. That perfectly sums up.

[@VegaVibing]

Yo shout out to skyline. Man really just said, here's how you get good at overwatch. Made a discord. Then disappeared. Wouldn't have gotten GM without that guy and Jayne.

[@MikeyDLuffy]

@@VegaVibing yeah I loved his videos. Sucks he disappeared so quickly haha

[@krobi26]

Thanks for the video!

[@Flexium_GG]

He’s back guys

[@JohnDoe42069]

We eating good with this one

[@RandomDude647]

nah. the way YOU GUYS learn games makes YOU GUYS bad at them. I'M built different

[@MikeyDLuffy]

😂, you ain't lying, you're a beast

[@marufranco5281]

Whats "Mid level" exactly? Whenever i ask this question everyone says its relative which doesn't help much, specially when you ask what point is considered "good" yet the same people who tell you its relatively at the same time can say whos good and who is not good, is Mid level considered good? High level? whats considered high level? Also i understand that in the relative sense players have this attitude of "if you don't reach top 8 in big tournaments then you are not good" or stuff like that

[@yoshitsune5691]

Yup im that master rank Juri player gatekeeping with my autopilot flowchart 😂 at least I’m not a flowchart Ken 😂

[@Bluegoo]

What is the game at 1:02, my friends? It looks amazing

[@milfmacron]

I'll bet some form of KOF? I'm recognizing what I think is mai shiranui? Good luck finding