SSC - TSM | ZeRo (Sheik) Vs. Zage (Pac-Man) SSB4 Pools R2 - Smash Wii U - Smash 4

[@T0rche]

4:10 "Ooohhh!! The *Melon* into the *Hydrant*!!! That does so much damage!" ... I never thought I'd hear that in a fighting game...ever...

[@GoldnApple]

the most unique fighting game ever

[@HeyoImKaGo]

Golden amen brother.... Amen

[@Dillo64]

Zage was awesome, didn't even know Pac could do half that stuff. He had something for every occasion.

[@xanblu]

There's bad luck, and then there's "facing ZeRo in pools" bad luck

[@emiliomendez4961]

+BaconKingGames Zage got a whole lotta cred, tho, I mean, if you get to play the best in the world and get told you are the best at a character, Zage must be super happy

[@someguy9638]

Zage isn't the best pac man lmao. Zero just said that's the best pac man he's played because zero has never played any good pac man's. Mainly because abadango doesn't like the pac man vs sheik matchup and wario does better. Zage is definitely not better than abadango

[@emiliomendez4961]

Never said he was the best Pac-Man, I literally said "Zage must be super happy"

[@someguy9638]

You didn't but zero did. "Best at a character". Also zero meant he's the best pac man he's faced since he's never played Abadango's pac

[@wierdnick504]

+Some Guy ZeRo actually did fight Abadongo's pac-man at apex, and has done many friendlies with him At Evo To practice the pac-man MU

[@olixleon]

Fair shout to Zage for doing so well against Zero with pacman, so close to winning game 1 even leading at one point

[@thomassquires3346]

*[Sarcasm Intensifies]* OH, LOOK! It's ZeRo playing as Sheik! I WONDER WHO THE FUCK IS GOING TO WIN?!

[@Nain9]

+Thomas Squires (TheTomTom) the fair

[@jevn11]

Bayonetta

[@nicholasmagliano5145]

Salem

[@Briankruisinga]

One of the best Pacman's I've seen

[@ThePlayingPenguin]

Look at tea play, it's terrifying

[@yuvalsela4482]

Pacmen.

[@YacubCubby13579ZR]

This set makes me wonder how Abadango would have done at EVO if he used Pacman in top 8. Nice stuff to Zage.

[@bobbylee5045]

***** I thought the same thing. honestly if Abadango were to be playing that first game, he probably would have taken it.

[@someguy9638]

Abadango doesn't like the pac man sheik MU apparently. I guess it may be just after losing to nietono so many times he gave up on the MU and decided to play his brawl main in the matchup instead

[@bobbylee5045]

Some Guy who does he play now?

[@someguy9638]

Bobby Lee he plays his brawl main, wario, against sheik.

[@bobbylee5045]

kool

[@bluelink142]

That's really annoying. Pac Man was throwing out all these advanced techniques, making up things on the go, being so creative. But what does Sheik have to do? F-throw into Bouncing Fish and spam F-airs until kill percentage. I have nothing against Zero, he's an amazing player. But in general, matchups like this make me cringe every time.

[@Nain9]

+bluelink142 IKR, alot of ZeRo's matches are like that, he just does the "easy stuff" with the top characters he uses and just play safe all the time instead of doing something "interesting".

[@thereemsroids7735]

blame Sakurai

[@cal5964]

There is a reason why is Sheik S Tier and Pac Man buttom tier idiot

[@ReactRa]

+Assassin ZER0 Pacman is nowhere near bottom tier. Last patch 1.1.3 Pacman is in A-tier

[@originalname1198]

Reactor Ray and now he's in D or E :(

[@evanb.6150]

omfg that ZeRo impression. cracked me up the first time i heard it

[@jeremyjakob9721]

So a lotta people have been wondering... willl zero ever fucking lose?

[@beerainee]

he will eventualy . even ken started losing in melee

[@dejaentendu5837]

the problem is after game 1 zero new what was coming the best thing to do is to switch to your second main after game 1 versus him.

[@DarkwarriorJair]

Nope. :^)

[@dejaentendu5837]

***** "me" lmao. I was rooting for zage, I can't do that shit at all with pacman. I'm trying right now and I can't lmao.

[@DarkwarriorJair]

ZeRo will always stay at the top, losers! :^P

[@NosrepModnarRm]

For a Pac-Man fighting Zero of all people, that was really damn impressive on the first round

[@NintendoFan021]

I was so surprised when Pacman up-smashed that hydrant all the way to the other side of the stage. Like imagine if Zero was at high percent on last stock and taunted at that moment..

[@lofidryzl]

Zage is my idol. I love Pac-Man mains, and this guy is so good.

[@SilverRay85]

you mean Pac-Mains? I'm one too 😎

[@schlatta-dirtydeeds9351]

0:45 Mmm, Zage juggling them melons...

[@Sol_Calibre]

Literally cannot sleep on pac mains, if someone uses that character you KNOW they are being super serious and knows all their tech, they;re not just some scrub mac or spammy link.

[@Nain9]

+Solomon64 specially Zage, he is everywhere with the neutral and down specials

[@AuraLink]

One of the best Pac-Man players for sure, too bad he couldn't get a game off ZeRo

[@Nain9]

+AuraLink Yeah but game 1 was still very close

[@glxxmy4244]

Sheik**

[@Dish.Washer]

N o l v a ?

[@the7deadlyhomunculi1]

does anyone know how to air cancel pacmans fruit without air dodging? zage does it at 0:12 ive been trying to do it but i cant figure out which inputs do it.

[@noctumbras]

Man, I need to watch more Pac-Man matches. Pac-man has some neat tricks.

[@bartymatrix7]

Best way to play pac man is to be unpredictable and lay traps. So yeah its really fun to watch.

[@bartymatrix7]

Zawder Games yup

[@MrCiNiC]

Zage with FANTASTIC plays.

[@DagzTheClown]

You played well Zage! Great set to both of you! I have picked up PACman and you are very impressive to learn from !

[@BrickNGames]

2:53 Why was his Up B that long? He didn't even use it shortly before that.

[@Nain9]

+BrickNGames some sort of glitch?

[@NoNameMan043]

Where is this "legendary Zage vs Shofu set" that went on during Xanadu?

[@DagzTheClown]

Zage, you're an outstanding Pacman, and against sheik no less. I'm very impressed 👌🏻

[@CopperMasterX]

Zage deserves a lot more credit as a Pac Pioneer.

[@someguy9638]

Zero doesn't know the pac man matchup for shit. Pac man is one of those characters where if you don't know the matchup against him then you're in for a ride. His traps and setups are so unpredictable and zero just wasn't aware of them so he fell for it. Good stuff to zage

[@someguy9638]

Case in point: 6:51. Zage bounced on the trampoline 3 times. Zero could've taken away his 3rd bounce by falling down and jumping on the trampoline before he did and that would've been the game. But oh well.

[@Erdertainment]

+Some Guy You are totally right! I cannot understand all those people in the comments here saying "Whoa dude pac man has the potential to beat shiek" because you can clearly see the only reason why ZeRo had problems with Zage's Pac-Man was matchup/character unawareness

[@someguy9638]

Exactly. Don't get me wrong zage is a good player but he's only ranked 19th in MDVA which is a bad region anyway. I'll still give credit to him but clearly zero didn't know and still doesn't know how to properly fight pac man as sheik.

[@someguy9638]

Erdertainment sheik destroys Pac man. He can't charge fruit without being sniped by needles and sheik obliterates the hydrant with f tilts, bairs, and fairs. That's why abadango eventually gave up on the matchup and chose to go wario instead

[@Erdertainment]

Some Guy Yep. Being a Pac-Main myself, I know what you're talking about. I always switch character when my opponent picks Shiek.

[@sabaca304]

Former Snake mains should play PacMan. They are both bout playing with those projectiles everywhere and endless amounts of setups and creativity.

[@icecatti]

7:54 LOL i loved this pac man so much. sooo fun to watch.

[@patrickalvey7079]

Are tournament players allowed to play stages in Omega form?

[@pdprosch]

Coney's Zero impression is ON POINT.

[@NauticalNoey]

DUDE! That Pac-Man was amazing! So much technical skill! I was so cool seeing all the stuff that guy could actually do! It was actually interesting! Then there's ZeRo.......

[@Gruvest]

But is nobody going to comment on the dopest setup that was throwing the apple into the Hydrant's water to have it travel across the stage twice when ZeRo was on the ledge?

[@9ball179]

I feel like on the 3DS, it is very hard to do swift moves and jump around all fast and stuffz. But on most other controllers, it's quite easy. :C I like watching Zage and learning tricks, as I am a pacman main myself, but sometimes go for ROB and Mr. G&W. That is the only reason why I am watching this...

[@Aflay1]

I agree. I main Pac and use Roy and Pikachu as my pockets. Thing about the 3DS/2DS is many advanced techniques are made easier or more reliable with the c-stick, but they are by no means impossible on the handhelds, at least the most important ones like fast falling aerials and such. It is important to adjust to GameCube controller eventually.

[@Saucy__Jack]

+Aflay Yo, you still play 3DS?

[@robertcampbell8814]

Pac-Man has the most potential out of all the fighters, If you can master him then you have a chance at beating players like zero.

[@someguy9638]

I main pac man and I'd definitely agree with you. Although when it comes down to it zero just didn't know the matchup for shit game 1 since he's never faced abadango's pac man. But he made a swift adaptation game 2

[@robertcampbell8814]

Pac Mains Unite! The Few, The Proud.

[@nado273]

+Some Guy He's fought Abadango's Pac-Man plenty of times in friendlies for match-up experience.

[@someguy9638]

Nado even if he has I can still tell he sucks at the MU

[@Nox-gu9cj]

personnaly i will follow zage... he has a lot of talent and he's pac man is just amazing *_*

[@Nain9]

+Noxis Prénom plus #originality

[@Nox-gu9cj]

Yeah :D Just see what he've done at delfino place :v

[@BenjerminGaye]

link to zage vs shofu?

[@palmid7564]

He shouldn't have picked a stage with such little running space.

[@jerzeymakk]

Zage Pacman is mind blowing lol

[@Igumshmush]

The zero impressions are so funny "what ze hell vas dat"

[@Nox-gu9cj]

it's great to see a pac man :).

[@ghiblifantasu4348]

I thought he would do Melee?

[@HomestarRunner20X6]

Keep huggin' those tiers, Zero.

[@spenpinner]

the z-drop > hydrant is cute but needs to be changed up to something like hydrant > throw, or empty jump > throw.

[@theherohartmut]

+spenpinner Grabbing with Pac-Man is risky, though. If you whiff it, you're wide open for a punish.

[@spenpinner]

what?

[@fruitlion8]

Both Pac Man and Ryu strike me as characters that might be able to trip up Sheik once people learn more of their tricks.

[@Elkington7]

The ZeRo impersonations always tickle me.

[@aaronjyount]

when the commentator mimics zero's reactions hahaha so funny

[@Liam-mv9zi]

"Iz jus Pecmen... I waz worry but now i no iz jus Pecmen" I. Am. Deceased.

[@sebastians.3338]

Nothing to say about Zero's skill, he's a fucking beast at this game and anyone who denies that is deluding himself. But damn, he's fucking boring to watch. You see Zage being so creative and savvy with this crazy character, just to see him losing to the same old Sheik shenanigans. I respect every Pac Man main I see on tourneys because he's such an unorthodox character. Playing Pac requieres some brains.

[@ZombieMaru]

They should do team tournaments for wii u

[@DeeRenaissance]

zero... respect ya man, awesome win at EVO, but at the same time, do you really have to use high tier characters? why not show true skill and play mid to lower tier = utmost respect and true greatness --- also I think a great balance would be to make Sheik SUPER light and easy to KO to make up for all her OPness imho

[@pendalink]

WHATCHU KNOW ABOUT TRIGONOMETRY?

[@luisalexander8492]

that pacman was AWESOME!

[@Bacchus325]

I want to be Zage's best friend just to watch him play on the daily

[@abelattyjuggler2894]

That moment you spoiler yourself who's going to win by checking the time.

[@bandie8224]

Psssh. You know who wins this when ZeRo's name is in the fucking title.

[@abelattyjuggler2894]

+Lennychu thats true, but in general I spoiler myself by checking the time

[@megadragonking546]

Shiek's air game is just too strong

[@jerodzimmer1781]

Zage was really PACking heat! HAHAHAHAHA im done now...

[@7ate9100times]

He sure PACked a punch! no? okay

[@DarkwarriorJair]

Nice match.

[@myrmirtom3273]

Picking up pacman now

[@Benjitopaz]

'iss juss pec-min!'

[@KoopaDad]

I feel like zage could of taken that first stock if it wasn't for the repetitive up b mistakes that zero capitalized on. Pac is still a hidden sleeper so the matchup info is kind of iffy. Good game on both ends.

[@Fatal25k]

Well, that was a close match. :/

[@alexathome2556]

Pac-Man is too underrated

[@TheWhitefox9]

seeing someone use a low tier character like pacman like that: respect! zero using sheik: meh, what do you expect its sheik

[@southrodney]

Yo... we all knew who really won there. That pacman was fresh as fuk but couldn't beat the fair spam shiek cancer.

[@Nebsytv]

they should make tom nook a playable character

[@ThatEpicGuy990]

When this was live, did people actually think ZeRo was going to lose to Zage?? C'mon man, he had no chance...

[@voltekka47]

ThatEpicGuy990 Had no chance? Game 1 was pretty damn close.

[@someguy9638]

Had no chance of taking the set. Zero has never faced a good pac man before since abadango goes Wario vs him. If you don't know the pac man matchup then you're in for a ride. Even if he won game 1 zero had the quick adaptation for game 2

[@ThatEpicGuy990]

+ChillTerumi And he still lost in the end, so that's already irrelevant. Once ZeRo figures out the matchup quickly, the other player has no chance.

[@lewisbirkett4428]

damn the ngnl shirt

[@ADrew26]

i played this pacman...GOT WALLED OUT...good shit zero

[@Nain9]

+ADrew Anther's Ladder?

[@retrometroid2377]

is this the best pacman :O better than abodango? wow

[@xxmegaloxx9434]

It's just pacman -ZeRo 2 minutes later (√°•°)√ |_____| what is this guy doing

[@whippersnapper6319]

That pac... dang

[@Nain9]

Zage staying awesome! Still most styilish pacman ive seen

[@mikesinaro]

How is no one there watching this?

[@coodoo17]

Sure Zage lost, but Zero got styled on

[@jordan2671]

It's just Pac-Man

[@Tiloffman]

yo tantalus, its just pacman xD

[@trapmaster123rd]

Zage vs Abadongo money match

[@samwad484]

zage will always win in our hearts

[@roqm0z666]

is just pacman

[@lazlo_bananas8285]

That. was. inspiring

[@TheWhitefox9]

wow, zero is using sheik he must be sooooo mlg -.-

[@leonardoquickgyro12]

Ripman - 2015

[@Canela_t]

Pura habilidad aqui

[@SrgtTeemo]

the only reason zero is so fucking good is because hes maining the best character and i find that very frustrating, i mean yeah hes good, hes VERY good, but i dont think he would win all the time if sheik wasnt that fucking op.

[@anthonydargan1459]

Nah it's not sheik it's him. I mean why can't people beat him in sheik dittos? He beats other sheiks with diddy after the patch. And I think sheik takes way more skill to use than diddy

[@SrgtTeemo]

Anthony Dargan like i said he IS good, but he wouldnt be as good with any other character. its a mix between his actual skill and sheik. plus i have never seen him with any other character, wich means there wont be any ditto that could get better than him, because i guess he attained so much knowledge of sheik by playing him/her all the time....?

[@WadeAlma]

These Zero voices XD

[@zeldamen80]

waka waka

[@chefajax4620]

I REALLY HOPE ZERO PLAYS ABADANGO PACMAN

[@spenpinner]

its pec-men!

[@FatLion]

HAHA HES PAC MAN

[@JoJoFan87]

Zero best player... Plays Shiek, yeah no.

[@Acceptera]

Sweet pacman :)

[@callinater6133]

better nerf pacman

[@alexanderar.6901]

Well, nerf sheik and Zero will be shit, easy

[@maphitha1]

interestinf set, but pac man's always been a gimmick character and it shows in this set. got off to a nice start but a gimmick wears off eventually

[@FatLion]

I like this white guy again

[@cal5964]

Camp Man

[@ntarps1]

Koolaids still better than this pac lol

[@FullOfSomething]

lmao, these commentators man...

[@mikyu4758]

Tier hoar against a guy who spent 500+ hours on finding new combos and getting better

[@jaadfable]

Dude... Do u know how much zero puts into this game... And of course he's gonna play a good character this is his full time job he needs to pay bills.

[@mikyu4758]

Sorry I was just really salty because zage lost I know how they are both really good players

[@SendFoodz]

zero with the nogamenolife shirt!!