SSD RAID 0 (2 TB)

[@ProtoMario]

I have 2 basic patroit ssds in raid for scratch editing, and it is fast as hell, way above 600 read. My boot drive is an Samsung evo 850, and its a 500 read alone, and anout 500 write too.

[@davet231]

@@paranoidnela Meh I'm happy with my 2 Samsung 960 evo 1tb name m.2 in raid 0.

[@SuperFromND]

Video just came out, PLEASE tell me you made a christmas tree entirely out of weed and SSD's.

[@twilson7384]

dude druaga needs to make this happen next year i think this comment made me laugh to hard though thanks man

[@opheriaux]

Arent you that one guy from discord?

[@SuperFromND]

ಠ_ಠ

[@FlinkerComments]

wait isnt he that guy fro discord?

[@jordananderson8299]

Talk about a 3 SSD RAID at 9:34 He forgot to add the little 32gig SSD to the raid but whatever

[@Guywhosayswisestuff]

Always a happy day when Druaga uploads. Plus, it allows me to distract myself from the mess that is my family relationships today so it's especially welcome on this occasion.

[@linuxsubsystem1638]

A mysterious man who always got tons of SSDs around him, struggles at getting a CMOS battery for his computer.

[@EpicLPer]

Uploaded on Sunday? AWESOME!

[@darianalexander5503]

Uh. Merry Bottleneck?

[@TheDeeplyCynical]

Ho Ho Slow

[@prizedcoffeecup]

Merry (loading ==________ 20%)

[@jamesdickins3427]

prizedcoffeecup merry (LOADING ==_____________50%)

[@ajddavid452]

yeah pci-e gen 2 x2 is caped at 1000 mb/s, given a typical ssd has a speed of 550mb's if he could find a pci-e gen 2 x4 card for around the same price he would have all the performance benefits

[@loganiushere]

ajddavid452 Admittedly on a 1GB/s RAID, 100 MB/s is not the end of the world, though 1: I haven’t watched the video yet and 2: I’d be more concerned about the RAID controller not beign able to keep up with the SSDs if the manufacturers of the card couldn’t spring for a full 4x PCI-E interface... EDIT: Looking up the speed of PCI-E Gen 2 4x I found a discussion of the EVGA fourms pointing out that PCI-E Gen 2 has more overhead then gen 3, so for Gen 2 4x you can expect about 1.5GB/s, so I’m guessing 2x will be more around 750-800 MB/s... so faster then SATA 3, but slower then 2xSATA3... bottlenecks yay EDIT2: I think that 400MB/s speed he ended up getting is due to the RAID controller, because that's just too slow for PCI-E 2x GEN 2 EDIT3: If his motherboard's manual is to be believed, the RAID card is only getting PCI-E GEN 1 2x, which would before overhead be 500 MB/s, which is amazingly in line with what he got. MOTHERBOARD BOTTLENECK

[@PistolSwitches]

my face is a capacitor

[@quadraforest]

Pistol Switches mine is a diode :/

[@emralcrewrblox]

Resistor over here.

[@Arquintox]

condensator over here

[@nitprudo3243]

mine is ugly

[@2003ryans]

Voltmeter over here.

[@jamiechampion4922]

"And the camera just thought one of the capacitors was a face." Druaga1 in a nutshell.

[@zachgreene2977]

"Use a knife, you're gonna love my SSDs" Is that a SlapChop reference.

[@MerolaC]

OMGGGGG!! MERRY CHRISTMAS, Druaga!!! Thank you for this wonderful gift!

[@krypticmac]

Druaga you should do a Q&A. I would love to know what you do for a living. Love your videos. They always make me laugh and I love your ssd thing you have. The video where you broke down about ssds in everything really was amusing. keep up the great work man.

[@Nidhogg84]

Druaga1 have you saturated all PCIe lanes on the motherboard? You plugged it into a PCIe x16 slot (x8 electronically with GPU installed). Using all those SATA 3/6gbps ports is most likely reducing PCIe slots speeds. When you use the RAID controller configuration tool. It stated its in 5Gbps x 1 mode (PCIe v2.0 x1), ideally you want it to be in x2 mode. You'll need to configure the BIOS to make sure that slot is operating in x2 mode (or x4 mode) and not the default x1 mode. Both performance benchmarks are within margin of error.

[@feilox]

Yea I ran into this problem years back. Things to learn is research the pcie lane you're using first. Find appropriate sata card and make sure it supports raid and boot. Calculate your SSD make sure it's below the PCIe lane speed.

[@TheRealARC]

Opening any SSD is sacred. All hail the glorious SSD of SanDisk!

[@CharlesShow]

ARC I got one from pny my first ssd but im still happy did it because I had bad luck with this one fucking laptop and the mec hds dieing after I get the drivers for win 10 on a core 2 duo its not easy

[@EllieSky]

Well isn't this video a nice little Christmas present

[@CringeHunterJon1]

I got my first SSD for Christmas this year! I've never heard my PC make such a noise as when it was running 175 MBps transferring from HDD to SSD.

[@YeridaBills]

Hey Druaga, if you tried to install the raid software do you think you'd get better results? Also, are you sure that using higher lane pci-e slots makes a low lane card improve performance?

[@VerticalGamer]

I heard if you get 420 likes the weed fairy will tell druaga to reply

[@averagegeek3957]

+Poble Why am I still getting hate?

[@Sir_Mikel_Bass]

Merry Christmas & Happy Chanukkah Druaga, and since I know you celebrate it, Merry Weedsmas/Danksmas !

[@arwlyx]

Druaga, 2x, 4x, 8x and 16x are the bandwidth connectors on the PCI-E card, in this case the RAID card you have is a 2x PCI-E card, so inserting it into a 16x slot (the one you're using with the GTX 970) will not improve anything because you're already hitting a wall with the 2x card. What makes the difference is the generation that 2x card supports and the slot supports. ie 2x PCIe 2.0 < 2x PCIe 3.0.

[@strongbadable]

Hey hey....Merry Christmas !!!!

[@mainfighter]

Already running a 1TB and 2TB SSD raid setup in my PC and have been for almost a year now. Also have a 8TB HDD raid setup. Both my SSD raid setups are fully used and I have 5TBs used on my HDDs.

[@redditor001]

On Christmas!! Best gift ever

[@sasanmottaghipour876]

Thanks for a year with great videos Druaga, hope you had a merry xmas !

[@silentpoet1988]

In the raid menu it shows at 31:00 pcie speed rate 5gbps 1x Its a pcie x1 card it will only ever use one lane no matter what port you plug it into

[@itmkoeln]

PCI Express Lane Sharing is a big issue (even on the 40 Lanes 2011-3 Socket CPUs provide).

[@MrOffizier]

So I'm not completely sure, but from what I heard in school it's like this: If you want the extra lanes (x1 = 1 Lane, x4 = 4 Lanes, ...), you actually need the physical pins on the raid card (your card fits into a x1 slot -> it actually only can handle x1. So better put the card into a slot which does not bottleneck you g-card(I got x8 -> x16 20% more performance). As you read in your manual, even if a slot is the size of a x16 one, it does not need to have all the lanes routed to it. So always read the manual when setting up you PCIe cards.

[@CattoRayTube]

Would plugging your old mechanicals into the RAID also reduce the bandwidth of your new SSD setup when both the RAID and the mechanical are being accessed?

[@krazyhartin]

Druaga, you're doing great man, I still enjoy watching your vids. Keep it up. :)

[@ThIrDWatCher]

I am a simple guy, i see druaga doin ssd stuff so i press the like button

[@Tom5TomEntertainment]

I think part the problem is the RAID controller MIGHT not be fast enough since you're spreading the PCI-E bandwidth between 2 SSDs at the same time. Also, your CPU usually limits how many PCI-E lanes you have available. I think Linus Tech Tips has some videos on PCI-E lanes

[@sugna82plays61]

Wow, this is the earliest upload EVER!!!

[@expansiongames]

pci-e 2.0 is max 500MB/S per lane but your raid card has 2 lanes thas the X2 on the box so you could get 1GB/S

[@AlpineTheHusky]

The thing is...2x cards are not a thing... There is only 1x 4x 8x and 16x in the standard :b

[@mountains121000]

Druaga I have a problem For Christmas I got a ps4 and it came with a random 500GB hard drive with no bracket or anything. What do I do??!?!?!

[@Frankaccino]

INSTALL A 1TB SSD! (That's what Druaga would say.)

[@mountains121000]

***** do u realize its 500gb?

[@asuasuasu]

You can cut off "and it came with a random 500GB hard drive with no bracket or anything." and it still will be as valid

[@chriscallas5680]

That last pci express slot actually connects to the phc. The south bridge. It's not the full speed. I had this issue on my setup an I just went x79 an a processor with the right pci lanes to accommodate the bandwidth

[@KamuiS]

Druaga1 , The Raid can be moved to another computer so long as it is attached to the same raid card or a card that uses the same chipset and allows you to rebuild an array.

[@IntellitechStudios]

what's your usual storage/software config?

[@Cultivator3747]

listen carefully at 1:55 for Heavy Weapons Guy (Team Fortress 2 (C) Valve corp) saying "You are So Small! Is funny to Me!" at a fast pace and rather quietly while Ian (Druaga) says the RAID Card is so small.

[@JellyDrive]

You have 3 Sara ports right? Why not just have the optical drives on the sata card?

[@OscarWanDaLe]

Do those SSDs happen to be the Black Friday eBay ones for $183~?

[@bnmc]

Just got a mid-2007 MacBook (with an SSD). Merry Christmas!

[@Deadhog_Rage]

i got a 2009

[@TheVirusGuy]

Happy Druaggstmas :D Many weed under weed tree , much ssds to raid :D More old macintoshes and more videos :p

[@melzoa]

Why not RAID two optical drives?

[@ivvil412]

what case are you using in your main computer ?

[@joeyf504327]

if you read the footnote in your manual, the default speed was 1X. So there might be a setting to bump it up to 4X

[@Snowwie88]

Druaga1, does your motherboard support an m2 ssd? If so, you may consider it. m2 ssd's (especially the pci-e versions, not the sata versions) are 3 to 5 times faster than regular ssd's. I myself use a Samsung 950 Pro 512GB M2 ssd on an Asus X99-A motherboard. Great board, and, if you use the right processor you got lots of pci-e lanes. I have the 5820k processor, so I am at a maximum of 28 lanes. My videocard is using 16 lanes so there are still 8 lanes left. The ssd is using 4 lanes and puts out speeds on average 2,500MB/s read and 1250MB/s write. And no hassle with extra cards, cables or power plugs. (I have a video about this ssd on my channel. If you are interested in how it looks, installs and works just check it out). Oh and you might find the Cooltek G3 installation video also interesting because I tried to mimic your way of making video's, say and do stupid things etc (like throwing three scissors to open a box while one would be suffice). Would be great if you left me a message there. Otherwise, happy Christmas. ;-) Another big advice: USE SATA CABLES WITH CLICK SYSTEMS. The ones you are using are bad and come loose at any moment. And some more: Disable Indexing on ssd's, especially if you are using them in a raid 0 configuration.

[@chunktvlive]

I always go with full tower cases. Just because most systems will definitely be able to use that room to grow in the future.

[@no-defun-allowed]

Stripe size with raid is how frequent data is split between drives. It is up to the file system to determine how small files can be

[@Quev]

Where do you get all this hardware from? :D Do you run a shop?

[@triaxelongd3337]

What are you using for the speed test?

[@BalticoYT]

I got alot for Christmas this year. A Macintosh SE, an iPhone 7, and now a Druaga1 vid? Nice.

[@averagegeek3957]

+TLP29 Good luck without a headphone jack :D

[@Barbaratio]

I like the style of windows you're using, how'd you do that?

[@hidde1626]

Druaga1 makes SSDs GREAT AGAIN!

[@PrimaryReloaded]

Whats the Theme of your Windows called?

[@Witnaaay]

If you arent booting from the ssd pool, why not use software raid (Windows Storage Spaces)?

[@Arhentir]

5:57 Silicon image 4x port sata-1 PCI raid card.

[@gibbygano]

Yeah...good call on that. I tried to clone my Windows 10 install from my single SSD to my RAID 0. It was a total non-starter. Had to reinstall fresh, the RAID drivers did not want to even begin to play ball with an existing installation.

[@FatheredPuma81]

Did you try installing the drivers that came with it?

[@gaiustrollius9920]

I wouldn't say you need a complete upgrade. You just have to find a better mainboard for the system, that has more bandwidth at the pci-e lanes. Also you don't need a bigger case, you just have to clean up the whole pc and do some cable management. I'd also highly recommend you to overclock your i7 2600k.

[@Nidhogg84]

Hyperduo is a Marvell chipset feature that increases HDD performance when 'added' to the array. Basically building a SSHD. Allows up to 3 SSD with a single HDD.

[@hankster1128]

I want to know how you can afford all these SSDs.

[@lamstudio4466]

Merry Christmas Druaga 1

[@CMDRunematti]

"...and thats the drive i was using for paging fole" immediately i think Why? "dont ask me why..." most interactive video ever XD

[@Itimo01De]

Hey druaga. I don't know if you seen that but both times it ran at PCIe 2.0 x2 speed (because it's an x2 card). You can even see that on 15:23 and 30:47

[@bpfuels]

What's wrong with exfat? Only file system will full Mac and windows support

[@1x4x9]

26:46 That looks an awful lot like a GeForce FX 5900 PCIe illustrated there, complete with the then ASUS style cheap heatsink with noisy fan. The odd memory arrangement and the HSIO heatsink near the connector are dead ringers.

[@davepedu5896]

What tower case is that?

[@heyfishy2783]

yayayayayaayay my christmas present came!! another video!!

[@690_5]

How's the coil whine on the 970?

[@TumbleGamerTK]

Its my first time building a computer should I get an SSD or a HDD? also what are the prices between them?

[@15fakeaccount]

I wasn't expecting swapping PCI-E port to solve issue, since that RAID controller is only PCI Express x2-one (aka 1 GB/s), but seems like total bandwidth of chipset is really issue there. So best bet would be just plugging these SSDs to your mobo and old mechanical drives to that card and using software RAID.

[@bedlamnfse]

merry Christmas to you and everyone here.....love your good stuff entertainment :-)

[@AmaraTheBarbarian]

If I'm not mistaken PCI-e lanes with an intel system are controlled by the processor, so you may not need a new processor not a new motherboard...

[@Nidhogg84]

Steven Randall CPU and the motherboard control PCIe lanes, however only 2011-x socket motherboards will increase PCIe lanes substantially. I doubt he needs 40 lanes. A BIOS update may allow auto-negotiation of the x2 card properly. Many motherboards will default to x1 speeds when it cannot sync at x4.

[@AmaraTheBarbarian]

Ah okay. I'm on an AMD platform so all mine come from the chipset, but I knew intel's was different.

[@madjimms]

external USB optical?

[@frosttea3759]

You're right that RAID stripe sizes set the minimum size for files on the RAID, however, 64k would be better for smaller files, and 32k would be better for larger ones. The bigger the files you'll be dealing with, the smaller a chunk size you need.

[@mashysmashy3467]

You don't have to worry about the graphics card lagging with that setup. I've also got a GTX 970, and benchmarks I ran on it showed no improvement going from PCIE 3.0 x8 to PCIE 3.0 X16, so X8 doesn't seem to bottleneck it at all.

[@mewimi]

You could put an HDD LED in that hole, I think that may be the purpose. Would be more ideal for front panel though? So maybe some type of weird server setup....

[@Fargo2731]

Hey druaga do you know where to find a very cheap graphics for gaming? Like 50$ below

[@0x8087]

What happens if you RAID a DVD drive?

[@Deltaforcemember]

Where do you get the Green for this fam :O

[@Nicolussius]

My cable management used to look like that too. Now I just crammed everything into the tight space on the other side of the case using a few zip ties

[@nilswegner2881]

BlueHazard cable management??? what is that?

[@BonFire201]

what aver media card do you have?

[@Snowwie88]

Druaga1, why not use the two sata-3 connectors on your motherboard for these two Sandisk ssd's? Then you get the maximum speed. Yes, I know your Windows installation is on the Samsung ssd but that ssd sitting on a sata-2 connector is not as bad as it sounds. And it will still be bootable. You just have to change some boot settings in the bios. Look, Windows loves small files. Ssd's are fast with small files. You will only notice the difference between sata 2 and 3 if you are copying, zipping or moving very big files. On your Windows installation you do not. Just keep this Samsung on a sata-2 port for Windows (it will work just fine) and move your steam games and all the editing work to the Sandisk raid 0 array. Then you can even plug in your optical drives to the pci-e card, because the optical drive speed is so limited the pci-e x1 card can handle that one with ease.

[@Jujstmeh]

Kudos for you cable management

[@andrewjohnson493]

A Druaga1 video on my Birthday ... Perfect :)

[@WednesdayMan]

same headset as me?

[@thecount25]

The stripe size has nothing to do with file sizes. For any kind of flash drive your probably want to set it to 64K or higher (trying to match the native erase block of the flash drive typically 256K).

[@DeckedSpring67]

Last time I got a Sandisk Ultra II it died after 8 months. I wonder how long it'll last in raid0.

[@HobkinBoi]

2:00 "You are soooooo small, it's funny to me!"

[@HITARIX]

The good old "You're so small, it's funny to me!" from the Heavy.

[@derrerrrr]

INSTALL SSD IN AN XBOX 360

[@krono9451]

abdellahalsaidi RBLX Not going to work.

[@krono9451]

All of Xbox 360 models use a proprietary drive interface and other type of drive format, so it it impossible to swap the HDD with a SSD. SSD could be used as an EXTERNAL drive though.

[@DeMichel93]

they do not use proprietary drive interface, they use SATA, you can easily swap hdd in x360 enclosure. The only problem is, the firmware has to be the right firmware for console to actually recognizing the drive. I bought some enclosure, throw in an WD drive (i think it was 160GB), make firmware "downgrade" to 120GB and console recognized it as 120GB drive. Console is not modified, it will work, there's plenty of tutorials on the web. Slims are even easier to work with, you just put SATA drive into it, without additional enclosures (like the old X360 version)

[@TUnit959]

I think theres issues with anything larger than 500GB, but yeah the only thing proprietary is the external connection from the phat360 hard drive. Inside the enclosure itself is just straight up SATA. You need to spoof the firmware so the console will accept it though.

[@derrerrrr]

then how can you clone the drive content to the ssd

[@marco_evertus]

That cable management inside the PC tho, makes me wanna puke....classic Druaga1

[@xaer0knight]

actually a really good rig. the bottleneck could be the CPU. 8x and 16x PCIe slots aren't much different in speeds.

[@muramarco01]

fuck the Christmas lunch, I have a druaga 1 video to watch 😂😂😂😂

[@spencermitchell5951]

Druaga1 1:27 thats a low profile bracket for optiplex 380 slim (thats what i call them) there may be some other computer models as well

[@spencermitchell5951]

i just relised he mentions it at 2:03

[@VikingDudee]

Yeah Im software raiding 3 ssd's for my games drive, 2x older PNY drives and 1x 512GB SanDisk I lose about 30GB in raid 0 but I got 1.3TB of SSD's space with reads over 1200mb/s and writes and writes at 1300mb/s, I load into COD so fast that I have wait about 10 seconds before the 15 second count down starts at the beginning of a match. Im not worried if I lose data on the raid if something happened, its just game files which can be re downloaded if 1 drive fails, no big deal.

[@33masterman33]

HOW MUCH FUCKING MONEY DO YOU HAVE TO THROW AROUND!!!!!!!!???????

[@jamesparry88]

he buys his stuff with his Druaga weed.

[@elmaz8503]

ad revenue

[@a_lilypup]

it's business expense. If your job involved researching with high tech telescopes, you would most likely have multiple $5k telescopes just laying around in your house.

[@nicholaswilliams1197]

Master Boot Record Master Race reporting in!

[@estebanr7877]

I've never understood what the low-profile metal tab at 2:04 was used for. How would it even be installed? Someone please enlighten me :o

[@The1stImmortal]

Esteban Vicente low profile cases need it. you just unscrew the bracket from the board (there's a couple of tabs with screw holes) and screw on the low profile bracket.

[@TheXppp1]

That subtle heavy was funny