SSSniperwolf Illegally Doxxed Jacksfilms?

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[@cheebahjones420]

The Flips Continue! How boned is the Cheeto?

[@CypressItalian]

I need your haircut. Who's your barber ?

[@ViableGibbon]

Please Do A JFK 1991 Film Review on it's LAW ACCRUCY PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE?

[@Footlong-zf4tg]

Would like to know with how the partial treatment (protection from copyright and no real punishment for doxing when youtube has banned for even saying it as a joke) that sniper has been getting from youtube open up youtube for discrimination lawsuit for most people that have been banned for the same thing?

[@dr.wolfstar1765]

Wait this is a terrible video. I agree jackfilms got doxxed and sssniperwolf is terrible but your info is either outdated or just out right lying. 1) sssniperwolf isn't denying wrong doing. She publicly apologized 2) youtube did demonize sssniperwolf for an unknown set of time 3) jackfilms is being critized for being a bad actor by KZbin. Please do your research before making videos

[@queenannsrevenge100]

Her claiming that “she doesn’t know how to Dox someone” is like forcing a bank teller to give you money at gunpoint and then claim you have no idea how to rob banks.

[@a1022007]

Lol. That was probably her argument for armed robbery…

[@PenguinLord10]

That was the funniest goddamn thing I've seen in weeks.

[@ilaser4064]

100% Ignorance is not an excuse.

[@SomeYouTubeTraveler]

Her entire career consists of pretending to be surprised and ignorant of things, you think that's gonna stop when she's in trouble??

[@wilbo_baggins]

I bet the content she removed she'd say I don't know have to be a p**o

[@LittleBiscuit]

The fact she went to his house, posted it to millions of ppl, and didn't apologize until she started to lose money herself speaks VOLUMES about her lack of care for other ppl's safety.

[@the_kombinator]

Can you not tell that by watching about 3 minutes of any of her content?

[@bethanychatman9531]

She also didn't apologize.

[@jonnym4670]

jack is obsessed with her one or two videos would have been criticism keeping making all the ones he did is harassment

[@marianacarina2580]

@@jonnym4670 Doesn't justify doxxing tho

[@Toast-com]

​@@jonnym4670 Making videos about someone, and being critical of them, isn't obsession. And, like the previous commenter stated, even if that was so, that doesn't warrant SSSniperwolf's doxxing of Jacksfilms.

[@Fizzlegear]

her sister literally posted "what you don't know how to fight?" when he expressed that he won't come outside... that is a threat of violence

[@soliniv1411]

Thats how adults talk in their world 😅

[@a-hw3ow]

still a threat.@@soliniv1411

[@pbandjamiee]

@@soliniv1411thats how people who either grew up tough or people who wanna be tough talk 😭?

[@momchilandonov]

It's obviously a joke lmao.

[@zrc1514]

@@momchilandonov It's not when strangers with a record who have beef with you are outside your house.

[@Timewarpiaman]

"Nobody ever attacks the male react channels" Did she miss all the drama around the React Bros? Absolutely everyone rightfully came for them. This is what it looks like when someone weaponizes their minority status to play the victim.

[@russman3787]

Women are not a minority

[@Shinigami.Hakase]

Not just them but also XQC which I think Jacksfilms also talked about at some point since his "style" is very similar to hers

[@Timewarpiaman]

@@russman3787They don't share the same power, privilege, and opportunities as men. Granted women aren't as much of a minority as they were back in the day and they're not a minority in the sense that they're in the minority but they're still technically a minority.

[@jajafeedyns8082]

@@russman3787 'Someone' in this context is not many, but a specific person.

[@kosmique]

"Nobody ever attacks the male react channels" - she yells out, as she charges forward with a phoneful of 5.6 million men, thundering towards the home of Jacksfilms.

[@georgedoty-williams2085]

The worst thing is that, in order to protect his family, Jjjacksfilms stopped uploading. She won.

[@Hungryghost01]

Maybe not in the best mood his life and family being threatened

[@thomassmith5696]

You’re dramatic

[@Feverdream7777]

...maybe a grown ass man shouldn't be involved in mocking and disparaging a young woman online. how about that?

[@Hawk7886]

​@@thomassmith5696youtube covered for her and so far has proven that they're fine with doxxing as long as the one doing the doxxing makes enough money. It's the worst of the worst.

[@NSluiter]

@@Feverdream7777 Least simpiest SSSniperwolf fan

[@Brianna-eo8nu]

As a woman myself, SSSniperwolf saying jacksfilms is only criticising her because she’s a woman and he’s just sexist and jealous is the most pitiful thing I’ve ever seen. Don’t use your identity as a scapegoat from taking criticism. It’s utterly embarrassing. The fact that THAT isn’t the worst low she’s stooped to is very telling of the deplorability of her character.

[@Stoshnut]

Jack has also called out male creators before!! Anyone remember Jinx?

[@luvhair255]

I hate it, it makes us all look bad! It's an insult to real victims of sexism. I agree, her and her sister have really aired out their inner personalities and dirty laundry for the entire world to see.

[@YeetLemon]

Miss, you dropped this 👑

[@whatisahandle_69]

I find it funny that YT was perfectly happy to let her do her thing. All she had to do was ignore a troll. But she didn't ignore the troll (I say troll but he was calling her out for very valid reasons). If (subconsciously) she really thought he was just a troll and her content theft was justified, she wouldn't have reacted and she wouldn't have to turn comments off on every video today. If ignored, JJJacksfilms would eventually quit the bit. But she made it personal now, she fed the troll.

[@bguzewi0]

And it's patently false to begin with, seeing as how he criticized Jinx for the exact same thing years ago.

[@Dorkyzzz]

It takes ONE unhinged fan of hers to call up and swat Jacks house, much like what happens to other youtubers who have had their addresses leaked

[@MrCrazyGameGuy]

It absolutely blows my mind that TheActMan gets banned for joking about doxing people on Twitter, but Sssniperwolf literally doxes someone and they don't do anything about it.

[@Mario123007]

While yeah it's a blatant double standards, there's some things that need to be corrected: - actman joked about doxxing ytbe employees, which definitely got ytbe panicked. - actman channel didn't get banned, it got demonitized for a month, whereas sssniperwolf only got demonitized for a week. - fyi: actman even show his demonization to his friend who to an employee at ytbe, and he also thought this is crazy.

[@KirbyfromDreamLand844]

Probably because the KZbin employees simp for SSSniperWolf for whatever reason.

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

its cuz KZbin are incredibly corrupt and hilariously incompetent.

[@RBLX_Player]

​​@@KirbyfromDreamLand844like obese 60-year-old discord moderators

[@danielbroome5690]

KZbin didn't actually do anything. They gave her a temporary demonitization, but ONLY on new videos, not channel-wide, and they're willfully ignoring the fact that she's ban evading them by having a second, monetized channel where she's re-uploading demonitized videos.

[@Hawk7886]

I wouldn't be surprised if they gave her direction on the evasion. It reeks of a, "Hey, we gotta do something, so this is the minimum we can legally get away with, but here's what you can do..." response.

[@tewks4458]

@@mathers000 That's great, so what was her punishment for ban evasion?

[@syav4467]

@@tewks4458 Want to bet mathers can't answer that? 🤣

[@mathers000]

@@tewks4458 demontising the other channels lol, as if they'd do anything major

[@robh.5658]

There's like two channels that say her SssniperWolf name on Rumble, and one of them have a couple of her videos on it. Not sure, if it's her channel, or if someone else is using her stage name.

[@SoraZ2112]

“Let’s talk like adults” Insanely ironic, considering how childish SSSniperWolf’s actions and responses were.

[@chrlpolk]

Because passive-aggressively driving by a person’s house and posting it online in the middle of the night is the adult way of initiating an adult talk.

[@arbiters487]

I love the fact jacksfilms was critisizing sniper wolf's overuse of reaction videos IN A REACTION VIDEO!!! They're both being extremely childish, but hey without them being childish we wouldn't get to watch the drama!

[@Luxian_Lost]

​@@arbiters487Do you not get the point of satire? The whole point was to copy what she was doing for the point of poking fun, in which his content became transformative because of the massive subtext it caused. And even with that he was a) more transformative b) actively hunting down and crediting the creators she stole from. Especially with doxxing, you cannot say it's a "both" problem. You tubers have been SWAT-ed, assaulted, and harassed via their address. What she did put Jacksfilms in serious danger, all for critiquing her and her unethical buisness practices.

[@Tkokat]

@@arthasmenethil5752 "Insanely ironic, considering how miserable and cowardy this JackFilm is." What were you expecting him to do? Get out of his house and break her face? He would have gone to jail.

[@Tkokat]

@@arbiters487 "I love the fact jacksfilms was critisizing sniper wolf's overuse of reaction videos IN A REACTION VIDEO!!!" If that's your take away from his video, then you didn't understand the point of his videos.

[@thepicausno5561]

Leaking someone's address doesn't count as an invasion of their privacy??? If that's true then that is a very dangerous hole in the legal code. People have literally died from having their address leaked, with people swatting them or showing up at their house with a gun. Someone could make you unsafe in your own home and you would have no legal recourse.

[@Lurksmore]

Showing a picture of a house , precedent set by Streisand, is not "Invasion of Privacy". Doxxing, harrasment and stalking are still possible crimes. Consider, Burglary or Robbery, both crimes are "taking your stuff".

[@willowravencroft]

that's the sad part.. we need a decent politician to pass a better law against doxxing..

[@beefhasslehoff]

In a lot of states your address is part of your "public record" and can be accessed by just about anyone willing to look for it. In fact, we've all probably "doxxed" ourselves many times by posting pictures outside our home with our home in the background, or something similar.

[@professorpwerrel]

@@Lurksmore I would argue to intent: The Streisand photographer was documenting coastline; something in public interest. Sniperwolf went there in a more 'mob' kind of way, half egging her followers on, implying something should happen to him.

[@Lurksmore]

@@professorpwerrel That makes it Doxxing or Harassment.

[@not_abot213]

I find it hard it hard to believe that she didn’t doxx without malicious intent. This is the same woman who would doxx one of her biggest ex-hater’s full name and slander him without genuine evidence.

[@AmuletRebel]

That just proves how broken the system is. A person doesn't have to say "I'm going to hurt you" to have malicious intent. But they're just taken her words at face value and suffering very little consequences.

[@redpandasarecool3]

she is also a felon and has been accused of armed robbery and disorderly conduct

[@aduckofsomesort]

Pulling up to someone’s house at night demanding they come out to talk is basically universally known as a call to fight. And she has a record of violent crimes.

[@jaminkeyz5016]

That's a good point, She could be charged and considered to have violent intent. Also the stuff that has come out due to this, is just as damning as this

[@JezaJames]

As someone who has been in many fights - ya'll are acting like babies. it's weak. I don't like her but I like him even less for being such a baby. he has been dissing her non-stop. Then he is surprised it escalates? I think many youtubers have had labotomies personally.

[@CT_Taylor]

If your reaction to your *content* Being criticized is to escalate/attempt to fight, you are not an adult and you are emotionally a child. @@JezaJames

[@Alustar22]

@@JezaJames "As someone who has been in lots of fights" so clearly you never learned to use your words like an adult, yet running around calling other people on the internet babies? Some people's kids, man.

[@ThisisCitrus]

@@JezaJames Grow up, you child.

[@VelaiciaCreator]

Her sister has indicated that she went there to pick a fight. Literally won't stop bringing up the subject that Jack wouldn't fight her.

[@andrewshandle]

That's a very one sided way to look at it. The statement was more "are you afraid to fight a small girl" to try and point out that he'd have no reason to be scared. It's like claiming you are scared of a chihuahua. Honestly, everyone in this story is unlikable. Jacksfilms, even if he thinks he has good intentions, is clearly profiting off her and she's just dreadful all around. Sometimes nobody is the good guy.

[@Eldritch-1]

She's going to pull that with the wrong person.

[@nullakjg767]

And he stayed in his house and cried lol. Imagine thats your husband? A little girl intimidated him. What a beta man child. Shes probably gonna leave him over this. Its hard to respect a man who is such a coward like that.

[@yannick7049]

@@andrewshandle He was actually creating actual transformative content and working to find which creators Sniper stole from to credit them. Heck, he's even said that if she at the bare minimum would actually properly credit people she stole from, then he'd be done. What she was doing was still illegal at that point, but at least the creators would get some recognition.

[@richardmillhousenixon]

​@@nullakjg767That's an interesting way of saying that you've never felt the touch of a woman.

[@WilliamGranath]

Fun fact: @masteroogwgay just got demonetised permanently from KZbin for "stealing content", here we are with sssniperwolf not getting punished for doxing and literally stealing content.

[@dragonshiny7321]

Man, this guy aged like milk

[@TimTam_3]

I hate how she says “she doesn’t know how to dox.” Ignorance is no defense of the law. Simple as that

[@sarahwatson3192]

“I don’t know how to use a gun!” Will soon be the new version of her “excuse” let’s not even talk about her outright stealing another creator’s full identity. INCLUDING THAT CANADIAN KZbinR’S MOCKING OF THE REAL TORONTO ACCENT SHE GREW UP AROUND!!!! TORONTO ACCENTS ARENT FROM ARIZONA, THE UK OR THE STATES WHAT SO EVER! ITS A CANADIAN ACCENT SO SPECIFIC TO THE CITY OF TORONTO!!

[@PowerKnowing]

Depends. There are some laws and crimes where intent does matter (as displayed when LegalEagel talks about harassment and its meaning), but this is NOT one of them.

[@barryxr6919]

Still absolutely wild to me that she got the KZbin equivalent of a verbal warning. I wouldn't be surprised if literally anybody else got banned, sued, etc :/

[@RemixedVoice]

She's a cash cow for KZbin. They're not going to stop maximizing their profits

[@tjsupes9768]

They absolutely would too,just look at Act Man who jokingly said hed do it after QuantumTV wasn't punished and KZbin demonitized him for "threatening employees"

[@hooting-ton5215]

​@@RemixedVoiceI hate capitalism. I hate capitalism. I hate capitalism...

[@xavierb9061]

News companies do it all the time

[@SimplyMissTonya]

If it were a man that doxxed a woman, you know he would get worse than what she got as a punishment.

[@Feetareleghands]

Even if SSSniperwolf didn't know what doxxing is, as she claims, ignorance of the law does not excuse the actions.

[@cameronschyuder9034]

This. If she truly didn’t know, then it only absolves her from (some) intent, but she is still responsible for the consequences of her actions. Because she still ended up hurting him, and that should be obvious to her. Unfortunately, some people don’t care about the harm they cause to others, only that their reputation stays intact, so they try to justify their deplorable actions

[@strynevanzelk4944]

But doxxing requires specific intent as he outlined so I don't think there is much to achieve here legally.

[@felipewilliams3047]

@@strynevanzelk4944 a specific intent doesn’t mean that her intent has to be the doxxing it self. Doxxing by itself isn’t a crime (in most places) but it can constitute harassment and specially in this case, even incitement of violence. The intent it needs to have ( as in most criminal cases) is the intent to harm in any way.

[@ishowslow5044]

by her logic ppl could say "But I didn't know murder was illegal 🥺"

[@Djorgal]

@@strynevanzelk4944 Specific intent doesn't mean the intent must be to "break the law". For example, the crime of theft requires the intent to "deprive someone of their property". So, even if you truly didn't know theft was illegal, and thus had no intent to break the law, you still acted intentionally. A good rule of thumb is to consider whether it was an accident. Did SSSniperwolf reveal his address by accident? No? Then it was intentional.

[@handson4580]

this is a classic case of outdated law. I agree she may not meet the requirements to be illegal but she still needs to be punished for violating jacksfilms online privacy and vaguely threatening them so she at least needs a misdemeanor (also promoting her fans to get his address saying its easy to find) and unlike the California coast one she took the picture purposefully at the house

[@dashvash5440]

Nothing small would likely charge her behavior. It would be awesome if we had an education system that taught ethics and if we also had repercussions where young adults and teens have to attend several classes on ethics, empathy, and trying to open their minds a little about the fact that everything isn't a joke and words/messaging can be very dangerous and it doesn't hurt to spend a moment critically thinking about your actions. It's not new but this sort of personality is weirdly popular and often operates under the its just words, memes, etc. Even while saying and promoting dangerous or horrible things way worse than a slap or a punch.

[@dakotareynolds3049]

"She may not meet the requirements to be illegal but she still needs to be punished for violating jacksfilms online privacy and vaguely threatening them so she at least needs a misdemeanor" Do I agree that she should be punished? 100% yes. But if her actions don't meet the requirements to be illegal they can't just give her a misdemeanor. That's just not how that works. Either she committed a crime or she didn't

[@tsurugizaki]

I would say this is quite different to the Streisand situation because of the intention. The photographer wasn't targeting her. Sssniperwolf was specifically targeting Jacksfilms. Even taken in best possible faith it's still insane behaviour to show up to someone's house unannounced because of an internet feud.

[@edwinrivera2046]

In the middle of the night

[@Marndarrr]

As much as Lia likes to pretend she’s 15 years old, she’s 30. A grown woman with *a history of doxxing who has in the past complained about people showing up at her house uninvited. She’s not an idiot, she’s a lazy, selfish manipulator. This was 100% with malice. She knew exactly what she was doing, especially proven after her sister asked “why is Jack scared of a little girl? Doesn’t he know how to fight?” *changed from “criminal record” after learning her armed robbery and domestic charges were later dropped

[@XXMatt0040XX]

She started in the *Call of Duty* sphere. If you remember the type of people who were involved with that era *coughKEEMSTARcough.* That should say all you need to know. ...But seriously how Keemstar hasn't been put behind bars or well... killed by someone baffles me.

[@tfkdandsvkc]

Is being 30 a death sentence,??

[@miaa7968]

@@tfkdandsvkc No, it just means "i didn't know" isn't an excuse for breaking any laws or causing harm

[@redisthecoolestcolour]

THIS, so much this. She uses her apearance to manipulate people and it gets on my nerves.

[@nootdraws]

@@tfkdandsvkcno, but she’s not a child. People like to frame her as being an innocent young woman who just doesn’t know better, when she is 30. She should know better than to do this.

[@lettersnstuff]

the fact that everyone who’s covered this story has blurred, censored, or just straight up not shown the house, says more about this situation than the law can

[@phoebea]

I was thinking the same thing: if it's not a crime/doxxing, why are you blurring the photo?

[@rmsgrey]

@@phoebea It's not a crime to call you a whole bunch of rude names, but if I were famous enough for people to report on my calling you names, and did call you names, you can bet most people reporting on it wouldn't call you the same names as part of their reporting. Something can be a dick move without being illegal.

[@TheoSur]

@@rmsgrey what

[@eisen161]

@@phoebea It's polite.

[@davemccombs]

Yeah lol idek with that one 🤣🤣@@TheoSur

[@cjlister8508]

The scary thing is that she has a criminal record for armed robbery. Someone known to have guns turning up at your house like that should be taken a serious threat.

[@NylaTheWolf]

PARDON?!?!

[@cjlister8508]

@@NylaTheWolf yep. Google it. Her mugshot is out there

[@richardslav9282]

@@NylaTheWolfYeah, she has two in fact. One from July 22nd 2013 for armed robbery and the second from August 12th 2016 for disorderly conduct - fighting

[@GothGirl_IHOP]

Her sister has gone forward to say they both intended to cause physical harm to him.

[@LifeCompanionDogs8083]

The actman got perm demonetized for making a joke of doxxing youtube employees on twitter. The double standards are sickening.

[@TheSwauzz]

Bro what? That's insanely frustrating, but also unsurprising. People protect their own harder than anyone else. It's certainly a huge double standard though and tells you where the priority lies. Lia makes them enough money for her to be treated differently.

[@RrraverCrow]

They eventually reinstated it on his channel but I’m sure that sssniperwolf’s ban won last that long and considering the fact that she’s already ban evading and making money off of another channel and YT has yet to take action against it…

[@sijrichters]

@@RrraverCrow - They caught her. They already demonetized her alts too. Probably getting an extended suspension.

[@ProxiProtogen]

​@@sijrichtersonly one of her videos is demonitized.

[@captainngoose]

@@sijrichters LOL I doubt it. I really don't think she will get in any additional trouble. Just silently fixed the issue.

[@Galarticuno]

Few things unmentioned/forgotten: -Sssniperwolf isn’t her first channel, just the most relevant -Sssniperwolf has a criminal record for disorderly conduct and armed robbery -KZbin gains a lot of revenue from her content theft and puts her on a pedestal frequently -By stating his address is easily findable online, she essentially encourages her devoted fans to find his address -Sssniperwolf also has a lot of unsavoury content resurfacing showing what is essentially sexual harassment involving minors -She currently has a secondary channel she is using to ban evade her demonitisation -Many people consider her “apology” to be AI generated

[@MineCreeperLPs]

Not even consider it was tagged as 85% likely to be ChatGPT generated by a bot made to track if for school homework which is very accurate. Also it just doesn't sound like her at all. Especially if you remember her attacking the one porn star who looked like her.

[@penguin22penguin22]

the ai generated part IS mentioned in the video. on screen as you can see. you should delete that sentence from your comment. edit: ty for the likes. Also i guess he didnt make that very clear though.

[@darkerbinding6933]

You should post the Case numbers for the criminal actions. Those are public record and free to be posted.

[@loggior.speedweed4345]

don't forget her 'allegedly' domestically abusing her ex boyfriend.

[@NateS917]

​@@GodofGamessswe got a sniperwolf simp over here. Embarrassing

[@askmeagain43]

It is insane her channel is still up and running. It's almost like youtube hates real content creators or something...

[@TheGreatVoicemancer]

The fact that she's still posting KZbin videos and turned off the comments on all her recent videos shows she is fully aware that what she did is wrong but doesn't want to read more hate

[@avpguy11]

She should be deplatformed at a MINIMUM.

[@lssjgaming1599]

Considering she has CSEM on her channel she needs prison time

[@kethmarhkfy7luf.263]

Get a restraining order, and let KZbin decide if they want to let her keep making videos and be liable when she commits a crime violating it using their platform. They'll delete her channel and nobody will work with her.

[@defenestratorX]

KZbin not going to do that, do you know how much money youtube makes from the content she posts. Wouldn't be surprised if she was youtubes biggest cash cow and in a age where people refuse to watch ads or pay for premium with high interest rates coming up. KZbin is in the situation where they need to make money or else it most likely will not exist in the future.

[@LuisSierra42]

The rules only apply if you are poor or ugly

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

She maliciously violated the ToS; but the problem is it's making KZbin money and it's not politically risky like 3D printed firearm related content. If you're a fan of firearms you know YT has LONG been inconsistent on enforcing it's ToS, they will manually review a video, ok it for monetization, then delete an entire KZbinrs Channel. The "3D Print General" had far less videos on firearms then he did on other things, in NONE of the videos does he instruct HOW to make these items, he is obeying both the law and ToS. They purged his channel for it.

[@Kaltonicsaiyan]

SSSniperwolf really cannot take a joke nor criticism

[@Hawk7886]

She also can't bother to do anything with any modicum of effort

[@jordansweet8054]

I remember when Michael McCrudden did a Before They Were Famous on her. She acted so crappy about it (not as bad as PewdiPie did), it showed her true colors.

[@CryptocurrencyInsider]

you mean SS-SniperWolf? 😂

[@chickensandwichman5443]

I'm going to come out and be as blunt as possible. SSSniper'wolf's ENTIRE internet personality is "she's hot". She's basically only famous for being "that one eye-candy reactor girl". I mean no disrespect to her for this. I am not saying that is all that she, as a person, is, I'm saying that this is the entire basis for her entire online fame. It certainly doesn't come from any actual effort, or quality of content, on her part.

[@johnbobtailsquib3290]

KZbin is not really the best place anymore to report bad content creators who dox or threatened others with real intent. However they will gladly ban, remove your monetization, if you use a fair use video/image or even make a joke of how sensitive KZbin higher ups are.

[@PolterDev]

I think jacks does actually have a case here because during the situation sssniperwolfs sister was posting on twitter talking to jacksfilms about how she wanted to fight. And then stopped after a couple hours before likely deleteing them (probably at the dying request of their pr team/lawyers

[@beetle8209]

For the people that are saying that jacksfilms is the bad guy for the criticizing her the most Jacksfilms is doing is constructive criticism which is good that helps the person but she took offense to him trying to help her and doxed which is putting him in danger.

[@tygerchickchibi]

I don't know if making parody videos is the best way to help anyone tbh

[@redacted8824]

​@@tygerchickchibihelps the original creators tho

[@trollking6315]

Shit talking someone for months while hiding behind the veil of "satire" is still shit talking and poor form. She isn't a snuggy. She is a human being with a career. Making parody videos on her for months, not one and done but months is not the way to handle shit. Jack needs to get his boomer self with the times and realize this isnt 2006 anymore

[@jakobe856]

@@trollking6315but who wants to watch a person who barely reacts to things on video she didn’t ask or give credit. Yes this isn’t back then but she not even doing the bare minimum for a video

[@beetle8209]

@@trollking6315Yeah you're right doxxing someone is so much better

[@HeisenbergFam]

The fact KZbin didnt ban her is scary since it may encourage others to do what she did, I hope Jack & Erin are safe

[@finallycanchangethenamenot359]

I am 100% sure that if it would be a small to mid sized channel they would ban them, but since she's youtube's cash cow she got almost no punishment

[@haileydee9954]

nah

[@Hawk7886]

​@@finallycanchangethenamenot359yep, she got away with it because she makes them enough money. Late-stage Capitalism at its finest.

[@nullakjg767]

No they died, jack killed his family in a rage.

[@LightHawKnight]

@@finallycanchangethenamenot359 Did quantumtv ever get banned for doxxing the actman?

[@danielluna7648]

"I hope she learns from her actions". She won't. She has proven time and again that she she won't.

[@thomashalsted1888]

The only way she'll learn is if it truly harms her physically.

[@charlespanache7047]

Or monetarily but she's yt cash cow and clearly they are incapable of holding her accountable.

[@aSSGoblin1488]

didnt andrew tate doxx and showed up at someones house? before he was mega famous?

[@lotrhpnmask]

shes done it before this so she will absolutely not learn.

[@u.2b215]

Maybe but Jack's problem is that he can't handle the fact that her "lazy" content is more appealing to people than the corny videos he puts so much effort in. He just can't deal with her being more successful financially than he is. That's why he went out of his way to get her demonetized. If he actually fear for his family's safety and believed she committed a crime he would have prioritized other avenues.

[@festivekai9846]

"You don't just need a legal team, you need an Eagle team" I dont need a lawyer, but if i did, this line alone would have me sold

[@cb-9938]

Sssniperwolf: -has criminal charges of assault and theft -ignored a child who was dying and wanted to meet her -doxxed JacksFilms then posted a joke about it on Instagram - blatantly steals content from people and doxxed the person crediting them - was sued by her Ex-boyfriend for faking her gaming videos (she looks down to find the space bar.....) KZbin: "WherE dOEs sSsnIpPerwoof gEt heR vIDeO idEA" *then saying Jack was part of the problem, even though he was doing what KZbin didn't*

[@kyerannisbet8895]

A few extras: -has a history of being homophobic -brings people down -makes fun of people who had work done, despite her obviously having work done on herself -fat-shamed a girl

[@genericname2747]

-Asked a minor to flash her

[@terrysyvertson9205]

sssniperwolf isn't sorry at all, her apology is fake, she is also breaking the ToS of youtube by putting videos from her demonetized channel and putting them on a monetized 2nd channel

[@Gr_ywind]

You can hear it plain as day. Totally disingenuous, she knew damn well exactly what she was doing and what her goal was. She also knew that nothing would happen. At least now we know that it's fair game to treat her in the same fashion.

[@GJameso]

At least she didn't hop on the 🎵toxic gossip train!🎵

[@drumworkoutstuff4934]

@@GJameso You have to admit though, we would've never gotten the glorious AI version of Hasanabi singing that song if she didn't make that dumpster fire of a song.

[@razvanzamfir1545]

Well, even the video here shows that the apology was written by ChatGPT, so yeah.

[@macsmith2013]

Unfortunately YT is making too much money from her to take appropriate action and banning her for life.

[@liefonthewind]

You showing the Chat GPT prompt at the beginning of sssniperwolf's apology but not even eluding to it verbally is subtly at its finest. Bravo

[@cl8804]

pasha london school

[@louithrottler]

I noticed that too but didn't think to comment. I actually should have started this comment as 'You are right, and well done for your subtle and ironic sense of humour. Showing the ChatGPT prompt...." etc etc. Nice one.

[@austinluther5825]

I caught that, too! /chef's kiss

[@OhOkayThenLazySusan]

But this situation doesn't deserve subtly. This whole video was frustrating because it has taken such a neutral stance - very similar to KZbin's absurd response to it all. She is so blatantly in the wrong here. It's not a joke to say that apology was written by an AI - because it so clearly was.

[@emmakane6848]

@@OhOkayThenLazySusan Well, he is a lawyer and wouldn’t want to give anyone cause to sue him. Devon generally tries to come at these things with a neutral perspective (a notable exception to this being one of his recent Trump videos where he stopped saying allegedly, because it had already been proven in court).

[@maxdaboredbrd]

"lapse in judgement" I see where the AI is taking inspiration from

[@calliebuni]

I love you so much, Mr Eagle. Your videos are done so well and it's really evident how much research you do!

[@christhompson8003]

One big issue I have is not once has sssniperwolf said to her fans "Please don't do anything, please don't escalate the situation, what I did was wrong and it needs correcting"

[@christhompson8003]

​@@mattbosco2178 no, never said "the only issue" I have many issues with what sssniperwolf did. I said it was oneof the bigger issues I have with howshe has handled this. Also FYI, there is lots of evidence, tweets from her and her sister, screen shots and the half assed apology by ssssniperwolf... you know.. the one saying she regrets what she did but doesn't actually fix anything. Saying "I'm sorry :( I feel sad" does nothing to fix the messshe made. fun thing, this can be used as evidence against her in the court case between her and sausage. she claimed his actions have damaged the channel - he will be able to use this as evidence as to its actually her that makes damaging and rash decision.

[@christhompson8003]

​@@mattbosco2178 also love how most accounts speaking out in sssniperwolfs defence are blank husksand have nothing to suggest they are real also love how most are quite new accounts (about a year old) That or they all follow the same Business accounts (seriously, who subscribes to the nordVPN youtube account) btw, not saying you are a bot / paid account as if you where someone did a sloppy job😆

[@TheZebbga]

@@mattbosco2178 You cared enough what they think to reply.

[@sekiko7183]

​@@mattbosco2178There's something called the internet bud. If it existed, it's somewhere.

[@TAMAMO-VIRUS]

@@mattbosco2178 There is evidence. The photo of Jacksfilm's house is still out there on the internet. There are even screenshots of the post itself to show that it was SSSniperwolf who posted it.

[@hpalpha7323]

People are too fixated on the "doxxing" angle. This isn't a matter of releasing personal information, it's a physical threat. No different than "be careful what you say, I know where you live"

[@Aloddff]

Yeah. It’s commonly noted that threats of violence can have the same psychological impact as violence Genuine fear of harm is harm. So when you threaten someone there is legal responsibility regardless if you meant it or not

[@Soulsphere001]

As far as I can tell, she never threatened him in anyway. Well, I suppose showing up at his home could be considered a threat, though in this case it's not a legal threat.

[@CoalOres]

@@Soulsphere001 Yeah but she seems like the kind of person who'd have an army of let's say... unconditionally loyal fans, the most insane of which might potentially be motivated to take action.

[@Soulsphere001]

@@CoalOres "Seems like"? It would be nice if you knew one way or the other rather than stating that "she seems like". Though you could, very well, be right. I mean, I guess it's a similar thing to what former president Donald Trump did back on January sixth, and even before that, at the capital. I don't think Trump meant any harm, but he was pretty dumb not to realize that some of his fans were going to cause trouble. So, yeah, she has the capability of causing Jacksfilms quite a lot of harm (whether or not she means to).

[@kellidinit3725]

Yes it is. Especially these days.

[@FreeWaves9]

So it sounds like in California, sniperwolf did commit a crime

[@nickclinton7661]

Imagine what her words would be if the roles were reversed except he doesn’t just steal other people’s work without credit

[@jarbear8185]

KZbin's response to this is despicable ... both sides? A reminder there is a tier system based on how much money you make for KZbin. If this was a minor KZbinr who did this ... instant deplatform for sure.

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

Yes, it is youtube.

[@keatoncampbell820]

There's good people on both sides

[@callen8908]

Trump said the same sort of thing defending Nazis

[@schmidtytime]

@@keatoncampbell820yeah bro tell me which SS officers were nice people since both sides have good people

[@rasengdori13]

Say capitalism.

[@ashleepurefancy]

hearing a lawyer say "it was kind of a dick move" was something i didn't know i needed to hear

[@KanokYT]

Same. I was surprised, but it felt right

[@andrewchanathip]

18:32

[@MGame0042]

@@Gearrion Many court cases are decided by opinion, my friend. "Based on intent" is opinion because people lie. But if a judge declares SSSniperwolf guilty of doxxing because in their opinion, she had ill intent, that's all that is needed. The other side could be stated too. She can be found innocent or the case dismissed because of the OPINION that she REALLY DIDN'T have ill intent. So opinions can definitely mean a lot.

[@ohboy1057]

@Gearrion You do realize that opinions on morality are why the law exists to begin with, right? The only reason murder is illegal is because we collectively agreed on it. If opinions are worthless then your only system of morality is might makes right, which I'd love to see you defend when someone mightier than you decides to screw you over.

[@jaw217]

It was the most diplomatic way to stay on KZbin’s good side. “I could say what she did was illegal, but I won’t, because… money… and I don’t want her to come for me next.”

[@mmx3374]

When an actual lawyer gets involved, you know things are starting to get real.

[@hulda4ever]

6:39 that is a face of pure terror

[@JemRochelle]

What I find the most frustrating is that all of this happened right as Jacksfilms' videos about Sssniperwolf were actually resulting in making a difference: small creators were submitting claims against her videos and she was being forced to remove the stolen content. And now that this has happened, Jack has stopped posting videos on Jjjacksfilms about her, and I'm worried that suddenly all the progress he was making for small creators to be able to fight back will be stopped in its tracks. And I'm guessing that fact isn't lost on Sssniperwolf either.

[@JaseAnimates]

Jack's likely being dead silent right now because he's seeking legal advice. He might continue again down the line, but I wouldn't blame him if he doesn't.

[@jaredcramsie182]

I doubt it's a coincidence. The fact that people had finally managed to get meaningful action taken against her, rather than just words, was probably a factor in her choice to escalate the feud.

[@ClonedGamer001]

Exactly why she did it

[@davidcaldwell8920]

He's most likely doing it because what she did was illegal and he's coming for her. He's not the type to be intimidated.

[@madisoniacone1680]

@@JaseAnimates very true, I also would not want to look at her face right now if I was in his shoes lol, I'll miss bingo night tho

[@BasJack]

I don't think "being too dumb to understand the ramifications of your action" should ever be a legal defense

[@mr.x2567]

Especially if she’s 31 and a bunch of evidence implies otherwise anyway.

[@derkeheath5172]

It's a very...Presidential...defense.

[@CBoy92]

I'm pretty sure that's a law. You not knowing you were breaking a law is not a defence for breaking a law.

[@r.j.3729]

To play devil's advocate, it makes sense for children or people who literally have no idea what they are doing, insanity pleas, and things with mental health, I don't know, I am not a lawyer or a policy maker, and haven't had the need to look up the technical term for it. On the other hand, when you have been on a platform and have suggested that you don't like stalkers and have had a following of 5 million people, somewhere in the 10 years she has had on KZbin, she should have had more than enough experience, either with the content she watches or with her personal life, to know what doxing is and if a reasonable person can't see that then we as a society should redo our thinking

[@sijrichters]

And it's not like she's never committed criminal behavior in the past. She's had criminal records for Armed Robbery and Disorderly Conduct. She should know how the law works at least.

[@gr6e]

Me, showing up to somebody's house uninvited in the middle of the night: YOU'RE HARASSING ME

[@GreenMantis2007]

My favorite thing about the whole situation is that after she got her temporary demonetization and said it was justified and that she accepted it... she then just took all her content and reposted it on another channel to monetize it again.

[@QueenOfTheNorth65]

SSSniperwolf says she “didn’t intend for this to happen.” UGH! SO tired of people using that for an excuse, when they are the ones that set things in motion. There’s a reason it’s called the thought “process.”

[@LexIconLS]

Also, actions have consequences. It's absolutely baffling that people just do not understand that.

[@kaischreurs2488]

with "this" people saying that usually mean "getting backlash from it".

[@Anon2767]

I don't know. I can quite easily believe that she isn't capable of understanding consequences of any kind.

[@taylorlibby7642]

​@@Anon2767Sadly, that doesn't seem far fetched.

[@sabikikasuko6636]

Also, she's acting out the dumb so hard, but she's got over 30 million subscribers on KZbin, and is chronically online. Doxxing is a BIG part of internet culture, there is exactly a 0% chance that she didn't know what was she doing when she interacts with internet culture ALL the time. She was mad that Jack took a jab at her and knowingly crossed an uncrossable line specifically to cause as much harm as possible.

[@RaineYiVTube]

Someone with a criminal record of armed robbery showing up to another's house uninvited should be seen as a threat and treated as such.

[@darknesswave100]

She's lucky she didn't get shot cause that's grounds for it

[@SilentThundersnow]

Exactly. It's not the non threat of a photographer taking a pic of the cliff your home sits on, and he doesn't have a following of people who love bullies and bullying or they wouldn't follow her. Trump's 'nice people on both sides' has some so much damage to our civilized society. These people literally have been coming out of the cesspool ever since. Along with his other criminal behavior that he too, does the reversal of blame, trying to make those who hold him accountable of criminal behavior, seem like they are victimizing him. This is what they all are doing. Every bully in the country. Reversing the blame when they get caught doing wrong.

[@Aelda69]

​@@kylerinner6430 She was arrested... In the act. That means she did it.

[@kyuubinaruto17]

@@kylerinner6430 Even as a Sniperwolf hater and Jack supporter it still feels weird to call her a child molester. Even if that's the official definition I'm sure most people will instead think of actually physically touching somebody inappropriately. Yes, she definitely did wrong, and legally her Omegle videos qualify as creating/distributing CP. However, even as terrible as she is I don't think she's actually touched a child.

[@BossBitchSlaanesh]

@@Aelda69 Nope, in the United States you are still presumed innocent until proven guilty even if arrested in the act of committing a crime. Note I'm not defending her, I'm advising you not to make moronic statements.

[@totallybeatable9238]

6:45 “wait what” POOR GUY

[@snowfreeze]

So, someone needs to sue her. For copyright infringement and harassment/stalking.

[@snowfreeze]

Intentional infliction of emotional distress too.

[@Bakutalk]

What we learned from this whole situation is KZbin is a disgusting company and as long as you’re big enough no matter how talentless you are you’re above all rules.

[@nexussays]

Replace "KZbin" with "The USA" and "company" with "society"

[@Bakutalk]

@@nexussaysyeah that too 😅

[@pinkkrystalz7610]

Technically we're all talentless since "talent" is a social construct. What she actually is is insecure and skilless.

[@csrjjsmp]

She’s not that big thoguh. Doesn’t seem like the explanation

[@malcire]

That's not really new news.

[@joeramsay6269]

Sniperwolf’s sister’s tweet made it clear to us that their intent was in fact to cause jack and his family harm

[@JojoSmacks]

Her sister tried to assist but really dug a deeper hole

[@Someguyhere111]

The tweet itself made it clear. There's literally no reason for her to post that photo if not to cause him harm. There's literally no reason for her to even take the photo to begin with.

[@chunkycornbread4773]

@@Someguyhere111exactly. “Just wanting to talk” doesn’t require posting someone’s house on your popular KZbin channel.

[@man.inblack]

@@chunkycornbread4773 she could have knocked on the door and had a conversation without her online buddies. I’m not saying it would be right, but it would be braver than sniping electronically and running

[@Nefariousbig]

Honestly, work. Why should Jack feel like he can just run a hate campaign with impunity? You don't think it's endangering her to push this incel content for MONTHS at a time, creating an obssessive narrative around her?

[@pigminy]

Me personally if “ it’s not technically illegal “ is used to try to justify something like this it might not be illegal but it’s most definitely not moral

[@robertplatt1693]

...and if we enforced moral codes, Lia would be on trial for witchcraft.

[@natilus5440]

To put it in the lawyers words, "It's not illegal, but a dick move."

[@lightsabermario]

This is also someone who has been arrested for armed robbery. Yes, you heard that correctly, SSSniperwolf was once arrested for armed robbery, and this individual shows up at night outside your house and makes vague threats? You better believe I'd feel unsafe.

[@GodofGoblins]

I'd be more concerned if she was actually convicted. Not to mention allegedly the incident was her being aggressive with a security guard over clothes at a store. She didn't whip out a gun and try to rob the store, but those actions "technically" go under armed robbery. So yeah, I highly doubt she is some ultra mega threat or anything. Add to this she posted online where she was and stated her intentions, so if her plan was murder that is absolutely ridiculous since you basically guarantee you're screwed in court if you follow through. She isn't someone who would go shoot or murder someone, she's just an emotional wreck who doesn't think straight. Just my perspective

[@SobBaget602]

@@GodofGoblins stop defending her she told minors to twerk for her, and she'd show them her "doubles"

[@user-mv5zt8qd9l]

​@@GodofGoblins You don't have to directly have violent intentions to be threatening to someone. Dragging your social media fandom to someone's front door absolutely is an aggressive and intimidating action.

[@GodofGoblins]

@user-mv5zt8qd9l well this is important when it comes to the legal aspect. It specifically states on California law that malicious intent must be proven to execute a punishment. Since that is incredibly difficult to do due to how everything went down, she is legally safe. We can talk morality all day, but court isn't going to care about that. All people can do is shame her actions and ignorance and move on

[@purpleYamask]

Especially important to note, on her livestream people note "oh they have doordash they might come out" and then on Jack's stream, Erin goes "is she the one who got us food?" So she literally tried baiting them out with food to fight. Psycho move, literally hunting them, especially knowing her public record of Armed Robbery charges.

[@trashgalaxy]

So I wanted to make a comment about how Sssniperwolf didn't just post a picture of Jacksfilms' house to her story. It was actually a video where she was saying how Jack should be out any minute and how she ordered ice cream to his house to try and lure him outside. Her sister also made tweets asking if Jack didn't know how to fight or something.

[@IndomitusEsports]

This needs to be more known, everyone is under the impression that it was just a photo.

[@wraith_2309]

What the actual heck she's psychotic. Thanks for sharing this.

[@KidderRachel]

WHAT?

[@imabosssorta1923]

Also a later photo captioned "we show up to your house what do you do?"

[@trashgalaxy]

@@KidderRachel Yeah, it was a video, not a picture. The only creator that mentioned it was a video, at least that I've seen, was Tyler Chou.

[@orangedoggy]

I love how the editors added the chatgpt she used

[@CheckTMOW]

I sincerely believe that SSSniperwolf truly intended to cause harm towards Jack. She is mentally ill and any logical human being can realize that there really are insane people on the internet that would do something truly dangerous towards Jack. KZbin's "punishment" really is a complete joke.

[@StarWarsftw12]

What legal precedence is that? By that logic every person who shows up at a celebrity or politicians house after a massive debate or "boycott" is mentally ill.

[@natilus5440]

she had past actions of narcissism, pedo behavior(but not really since it was a girl and shes straight), and impulslive behavior like doxxing@@StarWarsftw12

[@user-mv5zt8qd9l]

​​@@StarWarsftw12 It absolutely would be an abuse of power if one of those people dragged their fans into the dispute while making it personal. That is not something that people who are sound of mind are comfortable doing.

[@mynamejeff8401]

Gavin from the slow mo guys and his gf were almost killed after an insane fan broke into their house. It is clear that there are people that insane to do that.

[@GummyDinosaursify]

A few facts you missed out here: Sniperwolf's sister (who was allegedly with her) posted on twitter that they intended to "fight him". Sniperwolf's fans have continued to repost the image of his house, including a full address, on twitter. They have also doxxed a few other KZbinrs who have spoken against Sniperwolf. Jack and his wife have not been home since the incident and have been on vacation away from their home, we have no way of knowing if them returning to their home may result in any sort of harmful action towards them or their property. Also, Sniperwolf has posted videos before of her talking about fans following her to her house, so there's a case to be made that she knew exactly what she was doing. Not to mention, she's also been arrested and convicted for armed robbery, which pair that with the tweets from her sister, paints the situation in a different light.

[@bangsihyukswife4748]

i've also seen that she supposedly owns a gun and goes to a shooting range if this is true then jack most definitely had every reason to be afraid

[@zelandakhniteblade5436]

This and some other comments to this video tell me that LegalEagle did not do a very good job of gathering the facts of the case before posting this video. I sincerely hope he creates an update to it adding the additional context.

[@PenguinLord10]

@@zelandakhniteblade5436 Depending on how recently these came to light, the video may have been finished before they were known. News moves fast on the internet, and unless you're making videos that reach the incredibly high standard of quality Sssniperwolf's videos meet, it can take too long to properly address updates before publishing a video.

[@aaronleverton4221]

@@zelandakhniteblade5436 This is a legal explanatory channel, not an investigative channel. He explained the law.

[@zelandakhniteblade5436]

@@aaronleverton4221 Legal conclusions depend on the specific facts and evidence of the case. Many of these were left out. Since they are relevant, an update would seem to be in order. This was done on some other cases where additional information came to light subsequent to shooting and even in one famous case within a single video as events unfolded in real time.

[@darknesswave100]

So because he called her out on stealing people's stuff she thinks its okay to go to his house and show his address to her literal MILLIONS of followers? How does she not think shes in the wrong here?

[@ingiford175]

A house of a 'creep', that is 'willing to harasses' women, makes it seems she was trying to find a white knight to do her work for her

[@houseofaction]

she didn't show his address she showed a picture of his doorway and that is it

[@stephen9894]

@@houseofaction That's almost the same thing, and it wasn't just his doorway. It was the front of the building, she also intimated that it's in LA near a studio she was using

[@dontajj4994]

@@arthasmenethil5752 I'm curious. How much are you being paid as Sniperwolf's PR guy?

[@Sniperbear13]

@@houseofaction you do know how easy it would be to get the address from a picture of the front door alone? people can post a random picture of a tree and someone can track down the exact tree's location; how much easier do you think it is to track down a house?

[@bbd121]

Ssstupidwolf is never getting banned. Money talks, and much like Ford with the Pinto, it's cheaper/more profitable to work around it than to 'take the problem away from production'.

[@robertplatt1693]

Also what she did didn't match what the law says is illegal.

[@ScarlettCatte]

@@robertplatt1693 No, that's incorrect.

[@ryanriggs9963]

Great video man but I have to say the transition into your ad read and your tagline was incredible

[@BillAngelos]

I like how she "wanted to talk like adults" and then never did anything to have an actual talk, just posted the creepy threatening video and left.

[@redisthecoolestcolour]

She ordered DoorDash to try and bait him out. They refused the delivery and wouldn't open the door.

[@BillAngelos]

@@redisthecoolestcolour if talking was what she wanted she could have knocked on the door. Still creepy, but a lot better than everything else she did.

[@Nassifeh]

I have to wonder what "adults" she knows that "talk" this way. If the "adult" conversation you want to have over a conflict can't happen at a coffee shop or by telephone, it should be happening either through a lawyer or not at all.

[@OddOtter707]

Welcome to Gen Z!

[@eliselapuce]

She ordered food to be deliver to their door, to bait them to go outside, tho

[@TheDigileet]

Jack has been completely silent about this. It could mean he’s pursuing legal action against her. If he is, every lawyer he contacts will tell him to stop discussing the case publicly.

[@nullakjg767]

Hes probably busy hiding under his bed shaking in fear over the big bad sniper wolf lol.

[@luca.mayflowers]

​@@nullakjg767are you 8 years old

[@nsahandler]

​@@nullakjg767how many fake shill accounts does it take to defend one youtube loser?

[@ZarChasmOfficial]

​@@nsahandlerI don't understand why she has so many simps. She's like a 3/10. I'm being generous XD

[@raymondhorn1052]

​@@ZarChasmOfficialI know you are just making a joke but try to not attack her appearance. It sends the message to her fans that people are jealous of her or just mad at her appearance. She committed a crime and needs to be punished for her actions regardless of her appearance or gender.

[@JackZoe-bf3zq]

KZbin saying "behaviour of both sides" is the equivalent of your mom getting mad at you because your sibling did something.

[@Emnms68]

I think there is a significant difference between taking a photo of a mansion that belongs to someone you’ve never interacted with from far away and posting it on a photography website, and actively and publicly feuding with a person online; making fun of their appearance, mocking them, and generally making it very clear to your massive audience that you don’t like this person and want them to stop criticizing you, then showing up right outside the front of their house and posting a video of it for that same audience to see. Also, I thought the video included the house numbers in the shot, but I could be wrong because I’ve only seen the censored version. Of course it is reasonable to be scared considering the fact that there may not be a guarantee that someone does something, it sure is more of a possibility now that she has presented the information to her massive audience. Also, it is absolutely reasonable to be afraid for your safety or take someone showing up outside your house saying they want to “talk like adults” when that person has a past of violence with an armed robbery charge on her record. Physically showing up like that, when you have as large of an audience as she does, is so unprecedented and unexpected because it is so beyond what is socially acceptable when it comes to an online feud, of course it is reasonable to feel threatened and unsafe. If she already went that far with it, what else might she do? It’s just very menacing of her and very dangerous.

[@Nero24200]

I think a big difference to note with Streisand's home is that visitors to the website might not have even known it was her home until the lawsuit took place. SSSniperwolf explicitly noted that the home shown belonged to Jackfilms.

[@areadenial2343]

This is a very salient point. Taking a picture that incidentally shows someone's home is very different from livestreaming someone's home and clearly stating who the house belongs to

[@jaredmundi3599]

Exactly this. There wasn't any history of online beef in the Streisand case, where it can easily be shown that what she's done here was done to incite fear in Jacksfilms and potentially violence among her fan base. It is not even close to being the same.

[@evandavis5223]

Yes. At the time, no one, not even the photographer, knew that was Streisand's home until she sued. Sniperwolf explicitly stated that this was his home.

[@DarkZombeh]

@@jaredmundi3599 Even with all that, it doesnt come close to the definition of doxxing under the law in california, the outside of your house is not private property... Google proved that with google street, you wont get away with saying that, and you need to know the ramnification of stupid legal arguments, the only way sniper could be in danger legallly, is if she has said to anyone, that she was hoping something bad would happen to jack, it doesnt matter if they feel fearful of their life, if all she said was, i wanna talk ,even if WE ALL know its bs way of wanting to talk, legally , you cant just ignore the evidence, because you know deeper context, because then thats precedent for a lot of people getting in trouble for dumb stuff

[@gideonmele1556]

@@areadenial2343and physically going there at night no less to confront the person on camera

[@Oldsnake2240]

The Streisand case doesnt seem like the best or even most fair comparison. The photograph of her house was documenting the coastline and it just happened to capture Streisand's house; SSSniperwolf published the picture with malicious intent and, as evidenced by her earlier story, she was aware it was intentional.

[@Hawk7886]

Yep, SSSniperwolf was attempting to weaponize her fanbase at worst, and intimidate Jack at best. She's an actual bad actor.

[@pingidjit]

I was thinking this same thing. Not an apt comparison

[@theyorkrose5274]

Agreed - posting something that happens to be someone's house is what Google Maps vans do, but taking photos of someone's house BECAUSE it's someone's house is the kind of thing that gets journalist photographers banned from the industry and sued for millions. Worlds apart, imho.

[@TheOverSeened]

And she mentioning where she found it

[@corvidsRcool]

Damn, I should have kept scrolling because I commented this above in response to a comment because I hadn't seen it mentioned. That really bothered me.

[@americankid7782]

I think the part that makes everyone annoyed isn’t the legal side of this situation. The part that is annoying everyone is the fact that she is in blatant violation of KZbin’s policies as showing someone’s address is a banable offense.

[@williamnelson5549]

It should be illegal though especially since it was with ill intent. The fact that KZbin failed Jack and his family supporting sniperwolf is horrible.

[@GodofGoblins]

Well thats the problem. Gotta prove ill intent. And based off her actions, that is pretty damn difficult. She stated multiple times she just wants to talk, she took down the image quickly, she displayed ignorance on what doxing even is, and didnt even post the literal address. Had she directly threaten him, or show the literal address, or kept the image up, much easier to prove ill intent. Instead? She just looks like a moron, which is standard. But being idiotic isn't illegal, and since malicious intent is required for california law, she is very likely legally safe. sucks but it is what it is.

[@genderqueercam]

Even on the very off chance a 30-year-old woman running a successful KZbin channel somehow didn't know what doxxing is, she really gives the impression of one of those high school bullies who always knew their way around the school rules so that they could never actually receive any sort of punishment for what they did to their victims

[@Nefariousbig]

Does Jack somehow not know what targeted harassment is?

[@kayladunaway7101]

​@@Nefariousbig It sounds like *you* don't simp ❤

[@Darthwgamer]

@@kayladunaway7101 I doubt he knows what the heck outside is

[@gruby615]

@@Nefariousbig not targeted harassment if he was just doing his own thing. he wasn't actively engaging in conversation with lia at all during this, and only talked to her through his videos. the only times he actively talked with her was that one case in 2022 and you could argue recently. she took the bait, but won't take the bait on this attempt on sleeping with you.

[@bonkulonius]

@@Nefariousbig It certainly wasn't what Jack was doing. Parody and criticism isn't harassment no matter how you try and spin it.

[@OctagonalSquare]

The things that piss me off the most: 1. KZbin has unfairly promoted her even though all her content is theft 2. They have multiple times held off on copyright strikes to give her time to remove sections of videos before the strike hits. Something NO OTHER CREATOR GETS! 3. They have banned creators for JOKING about doxxing creators and staff. And they just demonetized her “temporarily”. 4. She began uploading all her videos to an alternate, monetized account, which is avoiding the monetization ban. This is a terminable offense in KZbin’s TOS, and yet, with 2 terminable offenses she is still on the platform. Makes me glad I’ve been cross-posting to Rumble and Odysee already, so when the exodus happens, I’m ready. Because this is yet another straw on the camel’s back, and a couple more could break it

[@Soulsphere001]

Companies are always going to give people who make them money more leeway that others. That's business for you. Also, wealthy people can generally get away with significantly more than others can. Welcome to Earth, where the bottom line is usually more important than anything else. The doxxing that she did was perfectly legal, which is probably why they didn't ban her. Plus I imagine it's better, though I'm not entirely sure, to legally dox someone than make a joke about illegally doxxing someone.

[@OctagonalSquare]

@@Soulsphere001 you don’t know if actual doxxing is worse than joking? Read your sentence again

[@Soulsphere001]

@@OctagonalSquare There's a difference between joking about illegally doxxing someone and legally doxxing someone. It's basically like killing someone in self defence versus making a joke about murdering someone, though that's an extreme example.

[@ownmicelio]

Name of the alt channel, to destroy it

[@NeedForMadnessAuto]

You Need Minds Website 💡

[@airsoul366]

The more telling and scarier thought is how she has no remorse for any of it, it's crazy how she doesnt find anything wrong with the act of showing up to someones house, unnanounced, sharing the location, and throwing an empty threat. Like, regardless of the intention, thats psychotic behavior.

[@patrickbellucci942]

I love your channel man. its a great source for real answers.

[@nicodimus2222]

Her apology is SO obviously a statement from a PR professional, rather than her being sincere about it.

[@Nobody-hc1rw]

Either that, or written with GPT.

[@DigitalSniper45]

Not to mention she couldn't even get the name of the person she's apologizing to right TWICE and still hasn't edited it is just appalling.

[@X-SPONGED]

It's ChatGPT, can't even spell his name right.

[@mephdlop]

Oh, that is most indeed a boilerplate "sorry, not sorry; sorry I got caught" PR apology written by someone else, meant to sweep things under the rug. I'd be willing to bet that the only reason there was even an "apology" was because KZbin said to put one out in order to get her little slap on the wrist.

[@Danovio]

professional my ass

[@mrbuttocks6772]

A big thing, is that she's been CONVICTED of a violent crime before. Which instantly elevates the seriousness of the doxxing.

[@lutherheggs451]

Shhhh, shhhh, the adults are talking....See I know "special" people who might need helmets desperately want to keep bringing up her "record", yet none of the parrots who keep farting that out actually know anything about it. I can not like her and not like what she did, but I loathe even more people who feel the need to do the bare minimum Highlights for Children level of research and their parrots who continually fart out their pathetic bare minimum information. YOU and 99.9% of the people who keep spouting that have no idea what her "record" actually says or anything really.

[@maxpis4412]

​@@lutherheggs451 I'm a curious outside party in this, what does that record say?

[@grmpf]

@@lutherheggs451 This reply is very funny because it is intentionally absurdly arrogant, yet contributes no helpful information on the issue at hand.

[@thefoxsaysno9951]

@@lutherheggs451 She was arrested (according to her) for assaulting a mall security dude after shoplifting, though the charge was armed robbery so she prolly left out that she had a weapon. The other time she was arrested for disorderly conduct whilst fighting with her boyfriend. Tell me which is the good part of her record? Why do you feel the need to ableist (your little comment at about uh, "'special' people" who need "helmets")? Why are you acting smart when you can't even use proper grammar? Why are you acting holier than thou? What is this guy misunderstanding about her record? That she didn't receive any serious punishment? Does that make it better?

[@timothyernst8812]

@@maxpis4412 I believe she has a criminal conviction for robbery. The thing is, prior bad acts aren't admissible in court unless they show a pattern of behavior. Why her criminal record keeps getting brought up when robbery is much different from doxing, I don't know. And while she should have known better than to do what she did, if the law requires intent that may be difficult to prove, because she is notoriously dumb.

[@AFrickinDwarf]

Man, that ad segue was top tier, good job

[@izzy-vn7tn]

If you consider the fact that she has a history of going to jail and spreading false info of people it seems very sketchy.

[@ItsNumber84]

It seems like posting photos of a coastline to coastline enjoyers is a bit different than posting someone's house to a crowd that's both angry at JacksFilms and desperate to get SSStalkerWolf's attention. Seems like very important context.

[@gladtobeangry]

Please don't change her name to something softer. The name she chose is SS Sniper Wolf, in other words she considers herself a nazi and an assassin. She's not some innocent "stalker" she's an SS Sniper, and let's highlight that whenever we can, so there will be no confusion about her intentions and her ideology.

[@krisd5697]

​​@@gladtobeangrynah, that's too much thought. She stole the name from a video game character, Sniper Wolf, from Metal Gear Solid, and added more letters to the begining so it wouldn't be exactly the same. Kind of like how she steals content and adds the bare minimum "reactions" to pretend it's fair use.

[@alex-rs6ts]

Yeah. It's a bit crazy to me Devin didn't take this into account. If there are millions of people looking at the picture of a house, SOMEONE will find it. Never underestimate obsessed people.

[@driftyplays]

@@krisd5697 Goat response

[@Metalrasputian]

While the context is important in determining the law, and that argument may be important to fight to establish new precedence, I think the lack of bringing it up shows that it would likely fall flat in front of a judge. Mentioning the imminent action and lack of previous harassment also points out that the argument would fall flat as that would be contrary to a "willful and knowing" action.

[@DarsyWolf]

Sadly both sssniperwolf and her sister have a history of this and and bullying/harassment, all the while being hypocrites. It was confirmed both were there.

[@kevinz.9785]

For real. SSSniperWolf complained about being followed and harassed IRL, then doxes and harasses IRL. With the defense of: I'm just a dumb girl, I don't know what doxing is, you're defaming me, Jack!

[@amandalindsey7741]

as well as a criminal record of violent crimes

[@fromulus]

That's what happens when you have no realistic perspective on the world. She's spent most of her time in fame surrounded by people that probably treat her like she's a god, like she can do no wrong. That's why she sounds like she stopped mentally developing when she was in her mid-teens.

[@LynCubed]

And sadly, the simps in suits at KZbin have never punished her for it

[@MicheleDelGiudice-mykys]

They things she does just makes it easier to pursue her even when what has happened is questionable.

[@sanctuary6689]

0:50 Oh my gods! Not even 60 seconds in and I’m dying with laughter! Legal Eagle you’re the best!

[@DraegonHeckman]

SSSniperwolf is already ban evading by reuploading her videos to another channel not even new content just reuploaded content

[@heartofperpetualice]

Objection: The Streisand case and this one aren't comparable because Streisand's mansion was part of a photo set over a coastline, with no identifying factors attached. Jacksfilms' house was mentioned in an Instagram story showing she was planning to go to it prior and then was attached to a vaguely threatening message, which came with clear intentions in a conversation with SSSniperwolf's sister. This is blatant malicious intent, and I'm not sure how you don't get imminent threat out of his reaction on the livestream. Even if the threat has passed, that doesn't mean the threat of her coming back is gone.

[@lemonielala3080]

Precisely. Nobody knew it was her house until she said it in the lawsuit. However SSSniperWolf said who lives in the house while filming it and while telling her millions of followers (who she does not know the mental state of) that he was a bad guy. Kinda seems real irresponsible and dangerous af.

[@reed560]

Further, her fan base has access to the information as well, and while it might not be likely, it would not be absurd to assume one of her fans could show up or follow one of them leaving their home. Unfortunately, I think LE missed the mark here

[@theaether3124]

reminds me a bit of chris packham in the new forest, someone set fire to his car in his home, its all well and good until someone takes this information too far, as to how people found where he lived I had no idea...

[@Finn_01]

@@reed560​​⁠​⁠Correction: Some members of her fanbase already HAVE weaponized this information and are calling for targeted harassment I can’t remember the username but a few weeks ago, there was a Twitter user repeatedly posting Jack’s address in the name of popularity, and just today there was an Andrew Tate “parody” account that found his address AGAIN and posted it on Twitter with the intent of doxxing his phone number as well - their exact words were “your [sic] harassing a girl, you sexist bastard. I stand with SSSniperWolf!”

[@AnimeBleachBabe]

But SSSNIPERWOLF knows his address now! Who's to say she won't divulge it later if she felt like it?

[@cskelton]

I think the main difference between Streisand and this case is the audience. Sssniperwolf has documented how absolutely insane some of her fans can be. It wouldn't be much of a reach to say her audience has a much higher likelihood of following through with malicious action due to having access to that small bit of information. At that point, she should be held partially liable for setting up that situation

[@phirenz]

The bigger difference between this case and the Streisand case is that the photo wasn't even labelled as being Streisand's house. The photographer was documenting erosion along the coast and took a lot of photos to show the current state of erosion. One of the homes in this collection of photos just so happened to be Streisand's house. But nobody knew this until Streisand kicked up a big fuss about it.

[@Stoshnut]

Someone also did show up at Jack's house and take more pictures and post them online

[@mattbosco2178]

@@Stoshnut Which only would happen because Jack is Barbara Streisand

[@urazz7739]

@@mattbosco2178 Nope, SSSniperwolf said it was Jack's house. The photographer that took the picture of Streisand's house didn't label it as such. Noone knew it was Streisand's house until she brought it up.

[@hinasakukimi]

also, that photographer wasn't beefing with streisand beforehand (i think). to do this in the context of an argument IS an act of intimidation, especially with the added context of her sister making it pretty clear they wanted a fight.

[@shlokhoms8081]

The good side of Sniper wolf doxxin someone: At least it's an original content.

[@madestro]

I have no clue who Jackfilms or Sniperwolf are, nor do I really care tbh as it seems to be dumb content only slightly above tiktok, but this was in my feed and led me to learn what Doxing is and I thank you for explaining the whole situation from a legal standpoint, I learned something new today

[@robertplatt643]

I get the feeling a lot of people didn't actually watch the video but jumped right to the comments. Dr Todd Grande also has an excellent YT on the issue, which deals not only with legal but psychological aspects.

[@Avruthlelbh]

The fact that she tried to cry sexism the moment someone criticized her should not be ignored as much as it is. She and others like her are the reason people don't take actually genuine instances of discrimination.

[@mattbosco2178]

I don't take discrimination seriously because I'm sexist.

[@nekoest]

@@mattbosco2178 good on you for being honest, unlike sssniperwolf.

[@mattbosco2178]

​@@nekoest That was actually a joke... demonstrating you cannot discern reality immediately before calling her dishonest, probably not the best argument.

[@tonydai782]

@@mattbosco2178 Yea, because on the internet there are people a whole lot worse than just being sexist. A statement that seems relatively normal, especially in text form when tone can't be discerned, will not seem like a joke. You making a statement such as this, and using it to criticize someone else's judgement about an entirely different thing is not a sound argument.

[@wyatt9949]

"I can't stand a female KZbinr getting more views then me" He didn't even mention Gender a single damn time which I just find funny.

[@TrevorRox6]

Claims she "doesn't know how to dox" but has been in court documents where she ruined a dude's life by claiming he was an SO and posting his personal info including address in her comments

[@Colm1800]

i think you might also want to know is that sniperwolf has faked her entire career, literally all of it is WWE levels of faked, even her old COD "gameplay" was actually footage from her at the time husband (there was an agreement between them etc but still fake to viewers), and whats worse is she steals thumbnails, videos, and even styles of speech. she didnt launch her channel, again that was her husband with the contract, she was basically just a face actress for years.. everything about sniperwolf is more or less fake lol

[@mattk750]

Lmao the image of legal eagle representing Jacksfilms is funny to me

[@Spacesnakes474]

The last line in her apology where she "thanks youtube for holding her accountable" is so pathetically see through. She wasn't remorseful at all until she got in trouble, and the only thing she is thankful for is that she got a slap on the wrist instead of the ban she deserved

[@MaxJey2]

That apology smells of 'im sorry i got caught'

[@Sniperbear13]

its PR 101; lip service. she makes it sound like she regrets her actions but you can bet she would do it again. it might also boost her popularity. i mean plenty of people who might not have known her now know the name sssniperwolf.

[@OzixiThrill]

"Ban"? She doesn't deserve a ban, she deserves hard prison time.

[@teelo12000]

I really like the part where legaleagle's graphics editor simulated her asking chat GPT for an apology speech.

[@warlordofbritannia]

It’s ok guys, she only made a severe and continuous lapse in her judgement!

[@dracos24]

Setting aside the doxxing, can we agree that showing up at someone's house unannounced demanding to talk is something I would expect from a crazy ex-girlfriend that refuses to move on. If you swapped the genders of the people involved, I doubt we'd be talking about demonetizing videos, and be talking about restraining orders and criminal stalking.

[@LilithGrey...FromHell]

That's what I was thinking when I first heard about this situation.

[@Gamer3427]

It is weird to me that the "stalking" aspect wasn't really touched on in this video. I'm sure criminal stalking is hard to prove off of one big incident, but showing up at someone's house in the middle of the night, streaming a video of it, and trying to get them to come outside, especially when they're someone you're not on good terms with, is definitely a major issue. Like you said, if the roles were reversed this would be playing out very differently and the police would likely have been involved immediately.

[@sloppyjoes7]

No. We can't agree. Showing up to someone's house isn't stalking or crazy. At worst it's rude.

[@tensemurm5924]

@@Gamer3427 It's a serious issue morally, but showing up and posting a photo (then likely leaving) wouldn't constitute any stalking when it's a one time incident (as you mention). The police wouldn't be able to do anything if the roles were reverse - at most they'd just speak to both parties and tell them to just avoid each other. Absolute dick move, as is standard with her, but nothing illegal (yet).

[@dxdxddx]

@@sloppyjoes7 it might not be THAT big of a deal but it's much more than rude. It is definitely crazy, scary and intimidating.

[@Nasrange888]

17:47 animation had me dead 💀