STØD in Verbs - video #6 on Danish stød (glottal stop)

[@samcousins3204]

Mic, I hope you know that even though you may not have 5 million subscribers like many "popular" youtubers, the work you do here is extremely helpful to many people and you should feel very satisfied with your impact on others, and I hope you continue on. I'm just a random kid, but I watch you every day and you have great impact on my life. Jeg prøver at lære dansk, og dine videoer er fantastiske!! Tusind tak!!!

[@MicsLanguages]

Hej Sam! Din kommentar gør mig utrolig glad. Tusind tak skal du have 😁

[@francescoghigo8394]

I think an extra final video about stød pronunciation would be great, because sometimes it was really hard to hear the difference that you were so confidently pronouncing 🙈 I think stød on vowels is easy enough for me, because I can clearly hear the stop, but with consonants is so much trickier, I find.

[@viktoria93133]

Denne serie var et mesterværk! Jeg sætter stor pris på alt, hvad du gør Mic!

[@angelacarstensen]

Super helpful, I love how structured your videos are !

[@MicsLanguages]

Great thanks! Earlier on I was kind of a messy person, for Danish standards. In the last years I've made it a priority to become more structured, and my videos are a good training ground. I'm glad my effort shows. Thank you very much for your comment 😊

[@allesindwillkommen]

Mange tak for the in-depth video on verbs. A lot of useful information that is often hard to find in the dictionaries or other sources.

[@MicsLanguages]

Great, thanks!

[@pragmatastic]

Another question I have is about the articulation of stød. That's a horrible question, I know, as it's really hard to find out about it. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts, though. What I've learnt over the years - and I could well have misunderstood - is that 'stød' is actually two different things. It can be realised as a glottal stop (famously in how a Cockney might say 'water', or indeed how many Americans might say 'bottle'. A glottal stop can also occur in English before any word starting with a vowel, but it happens randomly and no-one registers it. (Try saying 'and' with and without a glottal stop before it. Danish probably does the same, I'd imagine.) And then there's the second realisation of the 'stød': just one short element of a type of voicing called 'creaky voice'. We can all jokingly try to say a whole sentence with creaky voice, or just make a series of cavity noises with this type of voicing. If it's true that the 'stød' is an umbrella term for both the glottal stop and for creaky voice, then I wonder if there are any definitive rules for when people would use one but not the other. Might it be the glottal stop after consonants and creaky voice after vowels, for instance? That would be a nice, simple rule, and so it's probably not that! Or am I just writing nonsense? Always a possibility! ;-) Thanks.

[@MicsLanguages]

Ohhh, now I'm in deep water 😬 I have actually not even tried to understand what the term creaky voice exactly means. Should have probably done that before making these videos, as I've seen it mentioned several times. To my understanding, the glottal stop occurs in words like god, fuld, bar, ko, kør etc. I see this as the same phenomenon as in cockney "better". The creaky voice happens when the glottal stop is not fully accentuated. While we could say "maden" with a full glottal stop, we normally wouldn't do it, it would sound to exaggerated. So we turn down the glottal stop and change the tonality instead, which maybe could be called creaky voice (?). So the two terms kind of depend on how clearly we pronounce the "glottal stop". More often than not, we don't really "stop". Is this where the creaky voice kicks in? I wouldn't say that consonant vs. vowel has anything to do with it. 'Cause ko and fuld to me sound like the same thing is happening. It's more about how much we force the stød. But I might be wrong here. Sorry, I cannot answer your question with any "authority". I haven't thought about this enough. And I don't read much of the linguistic literature when preparing for the videos. I probably should, but I like to figure out things on my own. Sorry again, and thanks for the great question. Makes me think 🙂

[@maxsandberg5636]

These videos are super helpful, thanks Mic!

[@MicsLanguages]

Great, thank you!

[@EricNielsen85]

Thank you and plz keep em coming Mic. You are helping 2nd generation Danes to learn Danish. Stressing verbs is important, would love a video on that too.

[@MicsLanguages]

I'm glad they're helpful 🙂 What do you mean by stressing verbs? Do you mean: which verbs are stressed and which ones aren't in a sentence? That's an amazing topic, which makes for several long videos. I have been considering making it into a paid mini-course some time in the future. In any way, it doesn't look like there's any concise info on this out there, so I'll probably have to take the responsibility on my shoulders 😁

[@desireevogel1883]

Great series, thank you Mic :) ! It would be also soooo great if you could make a series of videos about prepositions - this issue is so hart to lern and it would be great to have videos about it :)...

[@MicsLanguages]

Thanks Desiree. Prepositions are ridiculously difficult. Even I sometimes have to look up prepositions in my native languages Danish and German because I get confused with the other languages I speak often. If I were to make a video on prepositions, I don't even know how to do it. There is too much too say about it. For pairs like for vs. til, I recommend you to check out basby.dk. He has some great exercises on lots of grammatical topics, and normally also includes a quick written explanation. Hope this helps 🙂

[@mrbridgesidiomasemusicas]

Obrigado, mic👍

[@GD-jc3wx]

Lol this is like so useful and so hard to find EVERYWHERE. Thanks a lot!

[@MicsLanguages]

Great, glad you found it useful, and appreciate the comment 🙂

[@joshadams8761]

I would definitely enjoy a video on stød pronunciation even though you have already covered that to some extent.

[@annepamelamanning]

Thank u again. Very helpful. Did u miss the verbs with the prefix er?

[@MicsLanguages]

Did I? Actually if I remember correctly, in this video I talk about how there is always stød in verbs with the prefixes be, for, er (I hope I didn't forget to mention er-), at least when there is stødbasis in the words. But later I actually figured out that there is stød in all verbs with a prefix. Unfortunately I can't change the video now.

[@petrkurfurst8796]

I appreciate the effort you put into making these videos, and I understand the theory behind the stød being or not being in a word. The only thing that mars the effort is that I CAN'T HEAR any damn difference between you speaking a word with a stød and a word without it. Yes, I suppose it will take practice getting used to hearing it... and then pronouncing it... Thus far, it's a very obscure branch of magic for me :-) Keep up the good work, nonetheless. I will catch up, I hope. Or I will give up...

[@pragmatastic]

Thank you! This has been a great series, and this final episode was the icing on the cake. I found it the most useful because it showed me mistakes I've been making since 1989! I never knew there was no stød in most infinitives, and so I've always said verbs like 'holde' wrong - I've been overusing the stød for years. It was also very interesting to hear about 'har' as a main verb for possession with stød, but as an auxiliary verb without stød. Just one quick question: if you have 'har' as the auxiliary in 'jeg har svaret', but you really want to stress that you have answered ('jeg HAR svaret'), would that still be without the stød, or would you then have it with the stød due to it being stressed, despite its function as an auxiliary verb? Cheers!

[@MicsLanguages]

Thanks for your great comment! I have come across many non native speakers who overuse or overemphasize the stød. Good to hear that you now are aware of some mistakes you've made consistently. It's never too late to improve 😁 Regarding your question, yes, when emphasizing "har" as in your example, we would definitely put stød in it. You got it totally right!

[@Unyil_Rungkad]

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[@ArmandoGarcia-xy8bk]

I believe the only Scandinavian language that has "glottal stops" is the Danish language. Interestingly, one can find the glottal stop in American English in past participles of some verbs, such as "written", "gotten", and in the word "Latin".

[@AlizHorvath-x3f]

Thanks a lot , it was very helpful although I still can't hear s*** , but at least I know what should I pay attention for :D

[@DualHeal]

i really can't figure out the difference xD only that your voice tonality goes up and down but other than that nothing i can hear.. help me outt??

[@MicsLanguages]

You're right. Often the difference is more in the tonality. It depends on how fast we speak. When speaking slowly, the glottal stop itself will probably be easier to hear, but otherwise it's just the tonality. I should have mentioned that more explicitly in the videos. But you already figured it out, so good for you. 😉

[@jc.9]

Your stød seems a lot softer than others’

[@mrbridgesidiomasemusicas]

🇩🇰👍

[@flonahh8148]

1000 Tak Mic

[@tywayhies4060]

not everybody uses that phenomen

[@adambako6939]

Are all danish Men so handsome like him? 🙈😇

[@LambruscoPeter]

Far, får får får?

[@Yorgos2007]

Now I know that Dr. Struensee was the ELSKER of Queen Caroline Mathilde :)

[@MicsLanguages]

Yeah man!! 👍😁

[@annepamelamanning]

What in the world is stød? 😅 Have I missed something? U keep using the word n I cant figure out what u mean or what it means. Google translate says it means shock! 😊 U make a hand action each time u say the word, that makes it appear like stød is like a quick stop at the end of the word. Is my understanding correct?

[@MicsLanguages]

Yeah. Have you watched my first video on stød? I have made 6 videos on stød, and this is not the first one :)