5 Times The Master System DESTROYED The Super Nintendo!!

6 games where the Sega Master System surpassed the Super Nintendo / SNES. Along the way, we'll also throw in a few comparisons with the Nintendo Game Boy, MSX, Sega Genesis / Mega Drive and even Ms-Dos.
Expect to see games like Power Strike 2 / The Aleste Series, Space Megaforce, Ultima 4, Ultima 6, Ultima 7, James Pond 2, Maui Mallard in Cold Shadow, and more!
00:00 - Intro
00:57 - Power Strike 2
03:38 - Space Megaforce
05:03 - SNES vs. Game Gear vs. MSX vs. Master System
06:24 - The Ultima Series
07:42 - Ultima IV
08:48 - Ultima VI
10:16 - Ultima VII
11:33 - Gameboy vs. SNES (Ultima Runes of Virtue 2)
12:40 - A Cancelled SNES Game (Worlds of Ultima The Savage Empire)
13:34 - Asterix (Master System)
14:50 - Asterix & Obelix (SNES)
17:21 - James Pond 2
18:31 - SNES vs. Master System
20:27 - Donald Duck in Deep Duck Trouble / Lucky Dime Caper
21:28 - Maui Mallard in Cold shadow (SNES)
22:58 - Donald Duck no Mahou no Boushi (SNES)
24:30 - NES vs. Atari 2600?
#SNES #SuperNintendo #NintendoVsSega

[@st1ka]

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[@tiagopereirasantossilva556]

power stone II para game gar foi o segundo jogo, sempre !!!

[@TechnoEstate]

Sorry to tread on anyone's bubble, but the Master System *ITSELF* is SEGA losing to Nintendo. Why? *Because the Master System was SEGA's* *_MID-GEN_* *update* in a last-ditch effort to not completely get destroyed -- as their ACTUAL Famicom competitor, the anemic SG-1000, in fact had. 😐

[@ricosimon1057]

St1ka, ignore this comment like TechnoEstate

[@DeaDGoD_XIV]

My first hard drive was 20 MB, we thought we'd never fill the whole thing. 30 years later and I can barely scrape by with 1 TB... Yeah, we're old...

[@st1ka]

Right? I miss the days of me being a kid playing on MS-DOS

[@DeaDGoD_XIV]

@@st1ka I kinda do and don't miss swapping floppies to play my Sierra adventure games, like King's Quest V was on ten double density floppies for my Tandy 1000. Oh, and the separate disk(s) to hold your saves

[@DanielMonteiroNit]

10 MB and it took me some years to fill it😅

[@ederpcastro]

Mine was 40 MB. I took two years to cram it. But that was before internet and CD-ROMs.

[@itsasecrettoeverybody]

I remember the day I only had cassette tapes to record data. But I had no data to record because the only data I could put in was code and I didn't new how to code at the time.

[@Jac2Mac]

One thing to note about Space Megaforce is that unlike most Aleste games, it uses checkpoints which doesn't work in an Aleste game at all and as good as it was, some people say that it MAY have prompted Compile that vertical STGs were not worth it anymore especially when they struck gold with Puyo Puyo.

[@st1ka]

that's a good point!

[@retroprojections]

Wow, great job, thanks! One thing, that I already knew, but you have driven home yet again, that in the US we didn't get nearly enough of the Master System library.

[@st1ka]

yeah, I'd say half of the truly great master system games never launched in the US

[@j.j.applechamp4697]

Why am I the only human who squeals when the soundchip-appropriate intro plays for each system?! Surely I am not alone.

[@st1ka]

Haha thank you for appreciating the small things :D

[@michielkroder4031]

This is honestly one of the first times I heard anyone say anything substantially negative about Super Aleste. It was in fact famous for laying down the gauntlet to other SNES shmup devs and doing what Konami and Irem didn't with their slowdown riddled early games for the system in throwing around a lot of stuff on screen without much in the way of performance problems. Yes, the 8-bit Aleste games throw more enemies at you, but they also don't have all the large objects that Super Aleste has. Fun video though! Next up: 5 times the Atari 2600 DESTROYED the SEGA Dreamcast lol

[@st1ka]

That is true and to be fair, I think Aleste is a good game. But I have to admit, every time I see Super Aleste being brought up it usually comes with some variation of "it's not as good as the other ones but". But maybe that's just me? xD I will say the articles I've read about it, namely hardcore gaming 101 seemed to think the same at least. But to be fair, people are of course allowed to disagree with me. In the end, this video series is actually more a subtle way to promote and talk about other games and cool versions of said games without going the old route of "HIDDEN GEMS VIDEO #26!" :P

[@michielkroder4031]

@@st1ka Right. I of course go by what my friends and the people I know say and Super Aleste/Space Megaforce is a beloved game in my extended circles. My buddy Ben of the channel One Credit Classics regularly livestreams 1CCs or attempts at, as well! And yeah, differing opinions on video games or media usually don't get me upset, so it didn't get in the way of me enjoying the video. Was just a bit of a personal headscratcher for me, like "really?" 😅

[@SECONDQUEST]

I'd watch it

[@KeenRetroGames]

You are spot on on these. Though I don’t think there is a better run of Mickey games than the Master System games (and I kind of lump Lucky Dime Caper in with them).

[@TurboXray]

It's only claim to fame, is that didn't slow down. It's an average game at best. I had it new back in the day, and me and my friends played a lot of shumps for multiple systems.. this was a forgotten game pretty quickly.

[@TheUncommonValley]

If I had more of a chance to collect Master System games, Power Strike 2 would be one of them. Really impressed by how good that game looks.

[@st1ka]

If it helps, Power Strike 2 is now part of the aleste collection on the PS4 and switch

[@wolfgangfrost8043]

As a teenager a friend & I were playing James Pond 2. My mom accused us of both being on psychedelic drugs because she just overheard us talking about a robot fish that can grow to reach the ceiling saving penguins in Christmas Land from a birthday cake monster. Yeah... the entire game does sound like a drugged up fever dream.

[@st1ka]

haha yep

[@jmac79ers]

Great content St1ka, really enjoy your humour and editing!

[@st1ka]

aww thank you! Glad you liked it! :D

[@AirZonkWorldChamp]

As the current Space Megaforce Twin Galaxies champion I will defend it a bit. Although the Power Strike games are amazing, SMF features lots of variety on its stages to mix up the action, I love the weapon system where you mod shots on the fly and the graphics and music really show off what the system can do especially since the game doesn't slow down unlike many other Snes or Sms shooters. Still agree with other picks though.

[@st1ka]

to be fair, I do greatly enjoy Space Mega Force, I think it's one of the best SHMUPs on the SNES. It's just me personally I do prefer Power Strike 2 and I often see Aleste fans being disappointed with Super Aleste. With that said, I do understand why someone would prefer Super Aleste over Power Strike 2 as it does have its advantages over the master system game ^^

[@madspunky]

Space Megaforce is great! The weapon system is interesting and everything plays smoothly. I also like the level design. Perhaps too long and meh music.

[@SuperGaknar]

@@st1ka video title: EXAMPLESSS WHERE MASTER SYSTEM ABSOLUGLY DESSSSDTROOOOOOYS THE SNES authors actual opinion: yeah i can see how some people would prefer the super nintendo version 🙄

[@st1ka]

@@SuperGaknar Someone's mad ;D

[@schaffiourketaris2691]

The worst thing about the first SNES Asterix game (besides the idea of Obelix being held captive by the romans) is that the NES version is much better. It doesn't have the ridiculous amount of levels, plays better & it actually has a final boss.

[@st1ka]

The mere fact someone thought "The Romans captured Obelix" made any sort of sense in Asterix, the game was doomed

[@Myako]

This was well worth the wait. Great video, @St1ka!! 👏🏻👏🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@st1ka]

Thank you! Glad you liked it :D

[@ShmupJunkie]

Oh boy you’re gonna get crap for that Aleste comparison! 🤣 But that’s the whole point to making spicy content. I’m actually going to agree that Power Strike II is amazing and insane what they did on the SMS. And though I do really like Super Aleste as it’s also a very good game for me, I would pick PS2 as the most impressive technical achievement and one of Compile’s best games. Super Aleste was also impressive in that it has nearly zero slowdown and the game Compile used to show other developers the SNES was capable of it, during a time where most SNES shooters had crazy slowdown issues like Gradius3 and Super RType. It was Compile showing how it’s done. I’m sure they simplified the graphics a bit for that reason to prioritize performance. So it’s kind of like saying this amazing game is better than this very good one (in terms of technical achievement). But if you get a lot of crap for it point them here. I’m in the camp that Super Aleste is also a really good game but not everyone’s cup of tea, as like you said the gameplay is very different from most Compile games. A lot of environmental hazards and levels focused around them. But if I had to choose a favorite between the two it would be Power Strike! It’s so good I had to buy a physical copy years ago. And the awesome thing about the M2 Aleste collection is you can play it at the proper 50hz speed.

[@st1ka]

Haha thanks man! And to be fair I do like super aleste, but I do think it's among their weaker games xD

[@megamix5403]

Damn, that Donald Duck game looks like something you'd see on a PC Engine. Nice list, I think I'll check some of these out. Love me some SMS

[@st1ka]

The Master System Donald Duck games are surprisingly great

[@LusRetroSource]

I never heard about Power Strike 2 for the Master System. I need to try that game out! Great video!

[@st1ka]

Oh I high recommend it :D

[@almaelma11]

Great video as always St1ka! Ultima making the list was perfect. I actually have a memory of seeing that game on the genesis long ago but didnt know what it was until way later in life. That said I grew up with Genesis so I got a bit of a bias with it when it comes to games and such, kinda like how I like the DOS version of lemmings cus I grew up with it but know the Amiga version is better quality as a whole. Thanks for the lovely stuff St1ka

[@st1ka]

Awwe thank you! I try! And yeah lemmings is a classic. Used to play Xmas lemmings as a kid

[@miketate3445]

I know this doesn't relate to anything, but I love hearing that little bit of "The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny" in your videos.

[@st1ka]

it's uncanny how will the song fits these videos.

[@Champion2D]

This has kind of convinced me to get that Aleste compilation. I do like Super Aleste though. I got to say I'm not a fan of the James Pond series either. I remember seeing it a lot as a kid. I'm pretty sure I played the Amiga and Megadrive version but I don't remember which one. I felt they were pretty average at best. Also with all the mascot platformers that were being released at that time for me they were easily ignored. Great vid as always mate. This is definitely a great way to highlight and talk about some often forgotten titles. I wasn't aware of the Donald Duck game for the Super Famicom for example.

[@st1ka]

I have the aleste collection and highly recommend it. To be fair, Super Aleste is a good game, but not Compile's best outting

[@TalesBarros]

Awesome video. I got familiarized with games I didn't know, and that's always great.

[@st1ka]

Glad you liked it :D

[@robertdanker6193]

Really great video!! Love the research and definitely agree with the list!! Look forward to the next one!!👍👍😁

[@st1ka]

thank you! I try! ^^

[@recordsbywoof]

what's the name of that fight game at 00:12 where they are fighting on an elevator??? ?!?! been trying to find the name of it since I was a kid!!

[@st1ka]

Power moves for the super Nintendo

[@ch-pg6gl]

you're currently living in the dangerzone for that Aleste comparison lol. keep em coming man. 🤣

[@st1ka]

FLYYYYYY ON TO THE DANGERZONE!

[@francescosmith7859]

Another fun video and you still have plenty of credibility in my book. The comparison videos are always fun and I hope you’ll give us a best Genesis MegaDrive list with all the new games that have come out the past few years.

[@st1ka]

I'm sure I'll get around to it and I'm glad you enjoyed the vídeo :D

[@HakeshuxNathan]

I still have my copy of Ultima IV for the SMS, and I love this game. Indeed it's my favorite version so far.

[@st1ka]

Such a great game :D

[@benryves]

Interesting picks, always good to see some Master System love. :) As far as the backgrounds in James Pond 2 go, try the SMS game on a 50Hz/PAL console. It doesn't improve the gameplay but the game has a few graphical effects (e.g. parallax scrolling, snow outside) that are disabled on a 60Hz machine which are neat to see.

[@st1ka]

oooh interesting. Thank you for that! :D

[@zusk8556]

Sweet! Thanks for that tidbit man!

[@liveyourdreammedia]

my man pulled it. amazing stuff! not disappointed. have a great day!

[@st1ka]

Awww thank you!!!

[@BlackPanthera]

Great video! Thank you, I watched it with pleasure)

[@st1ka]

Aww thank you!

[@skins4thewin]

Hell I have always loved the sound chip in the Master System. I love the unique sound it has.

[@st1ka]

Same here, when properly used it can make some really good music

[@lancelnce]

Same

[@skins4thewin]

Great video! I love these types of videos. Keep em comin'!

[@st1ka]

thank you! I try! :D

[@nikeneon3188]

Great video. I wanted to play in Master System games and you give some really interesting option

[@st1ka]

glad I could help! :D

[@WrestlingWithGaming]

I look forward to only seeing very reasonable comments on the great video.

[@st1ka]

Haha

[@adoringfan1226]

Damn, Ultima 4 master system looks gorgeous. They should port that to the pc, restore the missing features and sell it on GOG

[@st1ka]

It's a really amazing port. Especially with FM audio

[@TheZmusicGroup]

Thank you for this video! I don't know a lot about the Master System library so it's a pleasure to discover these games

[@st1ka]

my pleasure! Glad I could help! :D

[@KaskelotenZebbe]

Maybe Columns would fit this topic? At least the music is better on Master System and it has animated backgrounds. Question: what song is that guitar riff starting each segment? For example at 1:00.

[@st1ka]

Oh columns is a good one. The song is called "ultimate showdown", but this is an instrumental version

[@darrenmcilvaney5492]

Mate I don't know what you were smoking, but there's no way on Earth that any shmup on the Master System is better than Super Aleste on the SNES. You're havin a giraffe.

[@st1ka]

haha

[@OSW]

Your thumbnail game is very strong!

[@st1ka]

I aim to please!

[@noaht2005]

Another Shmup that impresses is Darius 2, called Sagaia on the sms, which looks and sounds incredible and even has parallax. That one is definitely more fun than SNES Darius Twin. I’d also say R-Type on the SMS is better than Super R-Type on SNES

[@st1ka]

Darius 2 is super impressive on the master system. I did consider naming R-type, but I feel r-type the third lightning is the best one

[@noaht2005]

@@st1ka that’s why I specified Super R-Type. R-Type 3 is great!

[@Retro_Royal]

Nice Video and I like the idea of the 2600 battling it out. Some Arcade ports from the 5200 or 7800 can also hold it´s own.

[@st1ka]

Oh yeah. Though I do need more sugestions, I actually know very little about the Atari 2600 :P

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

@@st1ka Winter Games is the big one. Ghostbusters is better in the sense of being far less painful. Space Invaders on the 2600 has way more gameplay options - plus, Tose got rid of the Invader's marching sound! And altered the firing in the most annoying way possible. Among other issues. This should have been a slam dunk for the Famicom, and I began this paragraph expecting the Famicom to win in basic arcade experience, but no - somehow, they failed the most basic homeowrk they were handed.

[@st1ka]

@@juststatedtheobvious9633 I didn't even know there was a space invaders game for the Famicom. thank you for the sugestions. I'll check them out :D

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

@@st1ka Glad to help. You put out some of the best retro content, and this was a genius idea for a series. Worth checking out, by the way - Ikari Warriors. The 2600 version is pushing the system to the limits, while the NES port is Micronics, and famous for cheap deaths. I wasn't sure whether to include it, because I suck at the 2600 version. Is it just as cheap, or am I just really bad at twitch shooters that bait you with obvious traps?

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

@@st1ka Oh! And if you're not above playing dirty - All the games on the Flashback 1? They're NES on a chip. Games like Yar's Revenge take a serious hit to the special effects, because the Famicom can't pull off the 2600's neon laser rainbows.

[@BrunoidGames]

Nice video, man. I would love Phantasy Star vs Mystic Quest

[@st1ka]

glad you enjoyed it! :D I have to say I never enjoyed Mystic Quest much on the SNES.

[@thehumbleone1983]

Power Strike 2 and Asterix for Master System are some of my favourite games 👍 great video St1Ka 👍

[@st1ka]

Aww thank you! Glad you liked the video :D

[@SaadAzim]

Great video, dude. I definitely agree with the list. Looking forward to the 2600/NES video. :D

[@st1ka]

Thank you :D

[@DanielMonteiroNit]

Sometimes I think SEGA would sometimes forget the SMS was a console and would put PC stuff into mindlessly 😅

[@st1ka]

hah! so true! :P

[@kikujade]

I'm from Colombia and Asterix rocks. I had the full collection, too bad I had to give it away

[@st1ka]

I LOVED reading the comics as a kid

[@f3rns]

The master system, never had one but this video will give me the wisdom I need to see this masterpiece in action. You made me remember Ideafix, I loved to death that crazy dog. Lucky Dime Caper man my dad gave me that game for the game gear on Christmas it was an awesome game the music is pretty catchy too. Thank you St1ka for your hard work and this great video.

[@st1ka]

I'm glad I could help. I also have a top 20 master system games video, but it's an old video so it might not be very good xD

[@squidzarecool720]

Don't let the haters get you down. You're still my favorite retro gaming youtuber.

[@st1ka]

Haha thank you! ^^

[@peristrojka]

Did you play James Pond on an emulator? Mine has scrolling backgrounds on the Master System. I believe they don’t work on an emulator.

[@st1ka]

Ah yes, I played it on an emulator. So the Master system version has parallax scrolling? Man, the Master system version is really impressive port.

[@peristrojka]

@@st1ka yes. Sadly most examples on youtube are from an emulator. Here is one how it looks with parallex scrolling backgrounds: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3qwiKBpmsR4e8U

[@st1ka]

@@peristrojka yet another example of why it's such an impressive port. I just wish I liked the game more lol

[@mugen8studios]

st1ka these master system games could be played on "phantom system"?

[@monsutaman1]

Genesis was great too. Mario is missing, Hotel Mario....Meanwhile SEGA was pumping out Sonic 3, Knuckles among other games. Saturn was the biggest win for The big N here in the states, it did what Nintendo could not, destroy Sonic....Saturn in japan was huge though.

[@revjim123]

Is that the University of Oregon fight song you have playing during the Ultima 7 review? Bold choice, kinda weird but bold

[@st1ka]

Actually it's the song to Castle British. Every Ultima game past 5 uses that song for the lord British Castle:)

[@revjim123]

@@st1ka sorry, I stopped at U4. The two songs do sound pretty similar in parts though, my bad. But now that I listen again I hear the difference

[@st1ka]

@@revjim123 ah no worries xD

[@willmistretta]

Great as Power Strike II is, it's not my pick for the best 8-bit shooter. The Guardian Legend is the Compile game that made me fall in love with Compile and with shooters in general. As for Space Megaforce, it's a weird one, but it grew on me. It's the most relaxing, chill shooter I’ve ever played. A weird niche to be sure, but it feels like popping bubble wrap while listening to smooth lounge music. Sometimes that just feels right.

[@analogmoz]

Will is correct, Compile stood above the others back then. The Guardian Legend is still an amazing game.

[@st1ka]

Oh yes, Compile were masters at their craft

[@st1ka]

Yes I'll also accept Guardian Legend :P

[@ShinoSarna]

Guardian Legend is more of a top down run'n'gun than a shmup.

[@willmistretta]

@@ShinoSarna I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. It has 22 vertical shooting levels, which is far more than almost any other game from the period. It also has on-foot areas, but that doesn't mean it skimps on the shooting at all. Quite the opposite.

[@TheGunmanChannel]

You've found your niche, DESTROYED vids. Keep them up!!

[@st1ka]

Haha thank you. Ironically, the Brazilian street Fighter video did even better :P

[@eucalipto9724]

great video! BUT! whats the name of the game in 0:45??? looks nicee i want to play ittt

[@st1ka]

That's Kenseiden. A great Master System game.

[@eucalipto9724]

@@st1ka thanks! gonna check it out this week

[@st1ka]

@@eucalipto9724 enjoy it :D

[@fern1146]

Great video! Happy that you mentioned Asterix, yeah, we here in Brazil enjoyed the cartoons (the comics too, but more the cartoons) My first console was a Master System, Asterix was one of the first games I wanted to buy (couldn't lol) but I rented it many times, and me and my brother would take turns to try and finish it Damn, so many good memories Thanks, it made me happy before falling asleep Edit: Deep Duck Trouble is one of my all time favorites

[@st1ka]

oh yeah, I know Asterix is pretty popular in Europe and South America :D In the US it's pretty much unheard of

[@SomeGuy712x]

I wonder if any comparisons can be made involving the Intellivision system? Like, I think I recall my 6-year old self enjoying Burgertime on the Intellivision a lot, but could never get myself interested in the NES or Arcade versions of Burgertime later. But, it could just be that the Intellivision version was the one I played first long ago.

[@st1ka]

Oh that be would amazing if we find games where the Intellivision beats the NES

[@pixelacos]

great video!. If you run james pond 2 for sms on pal mode, it has parallax scrolling on every level.

[@st1ka]

I had to resort to emulation for most of these, because I don't actually like half of the games mentioned here, namely James Pond, the first asterix game on the SNES, or the SNES ultima games haha xD

[@pixelacos]

@@st1ka yeah! but you can emulate it in pal mode if you have curiosity.

[@st1ka]

@@pixelacos ooh thank you for the tip! :D

[@Partuv]

Awwwwww yes, now we're talking 😁 You just got your credibility back! 🤪🤣😂 But in full seriousness: great video my friend! Keep up the good work! ❤

[@st1ka]

Aww thank you I try

[@Halbared]

Aw man, the Asterix games looked amazing. I had a Nes in the UK, but I always intended to buy Wonderboy3 and Asterix when I bought my Megadrive and the master converter; sadly, I never did buy yhr converter so I never got either Astterix or Wonderboy. Times just moved too fast back then.

[@StefaNonsense]

That was a very enjoyable video!

[@st1ka]

Thank you :D

[@AnthonyRiddle]

The viewing angle of the SNES Ultima games makes me confused and dizzy. It looks like there's always a strong wind blowing making the characters walk sideways

[@st1ka]

Haha

[@erockbrox8484]

Can someone tell me where the pause button is on the SEGA master system controller? they forgot the pause button!

[@st1ka]

Why would you want to pause a fun game?

[@erockbrox8484]

@@st1ka So I can take a shit in the bathroom.

[@francescosmith7859]

What’s funny is that I have seen videos suggesting Space Megaforce is the best shooter on the SNES. Just shows shooters weren’t the best on the SNES.

[@st1ka]

I have to admit I prefer R-type: The third lightning if we're talking snes shmups

[@francescosmith7859]

@@st1ka I think I might pick UN Squadron but would prefer so many other shooters especially Genesis and Turbo16 ones.

[@st1ka]

@@francescosmith7859 oh UN Squadron is great too!

[@francescosmith7859]

@@st1ka so I went back and played RType3 again and I want to change my vote. It’s really hard but I think this has become my favorite SNES shooter.

[@st1ka]

@@francescosmith7859 R-type: The Third Lightning is just incredible. Such a good game.

[@retroactivekev]

Awesome selection! I agree with you, not a big fan of the James Pond series and that SNES version with those backgrounds looks rough.

[@st1ka]

Yeah they're quite bad haha

[@ronindebeatrice]

What is the intro bass line? It's driving me nuts.

[@st1ka]

It's an instrumental version of ultimate showdown

[@fdiasvieira]

Ótimo vídeo como sempre! Impressionante como adultos barbados podem ser tão infantis por se ofenderem pelos videogames que jogaram na infância, hehehe. Abraço!

[@st1ka]

Haha obrigado! Eu bem que tento

[@FloydianSystem]

surprised there was no mention of the nes asterix with the alberto j gonzales ost

[@Astfgl]

Regarding Maui Mallard "I think the Mega Drive version is better" - preach, brother. Preach. Maui Mallard is another great example of "less is more". Ostensibly the SNES and PC Cold Shadow games are expanded and refined versions of the Mega Drive game, but doubling the size of the levels and adding a bunch of collectibles turned the game from a tight, focused platformer into a boring, meandering slog. The original Maui Mallard is still one of my favourite Mega Drive games, whereas I usually get fed up with the SNES game before I even reach the second level.

[@st1ka]

yeah, they messed with the level design and not for the better imo

[@NucleaRaptor]

IIRC the SNES version also took away the bug combo system for some reason. Bomb + boomerang ftw.

[@caiusmadison2996]

If Sega actually tried here in America, it would've won the heart space of gamers over Nintendo. Master Sytem was light-years better every single time they had the same game, Master Sytsem was better.

[@leonardoliveira]

It might sound weird but technically Brazil is NTSC area because it's game systems run at 60Hz and USA region games. Here we use PAL at 60Hz exactly for it being a hindrance for "illegal smuggling of goods" (TVs, VCRs, video game systems).

[@st1ka]

Oh interesting. I always thought Brazil was a variation on PAL?

[@leonardoliveira]

@@st1ka It's called "PAL-M" exactly because it is a modification of the M broadcasting system (B&W TV) used in the United States. (USA color system is called "NTSC-M") Brazil government paid German firm Telefunken to develop a change to use PAL color encoding under the M system so there would be no need to change the transmitters already installed for broadcasting color video. When Brazil choose to use Japanese ISDB-T system of digital TV they paid the system developers to change the codec from MPEG2 to H.264 even though there isn't any real benefit on doing so. It's just to make sure Japanese TVs can not work here without firmware changes.

[@st1ka]

@@leonardoliveira So despite being called Pal-M it's closer to NTSC? Interesting

[@leonardoliveira]

@@st1ka Yeah and that's why Brazilian Mega Drives consisted of SEGA Genesis boards with European casing. The ring around the cart slot is red instead of gray to signify it is 60hz.

[@st1ka]

Interesting, thank you so much for the clarification

[@chadschmaltz9790]

My biggest issue with the Maui Mallard game is the camera. It whips around whenever you change direction that it made me feel a little nauseous. Also I think the sprite is a bit too big for the screen which when combined with how fast Maui moves, makes running into enemies and hazards a real problem. I know that it doesn't have an SNES equivalent, but I was hoping when we got to Donald games that you would mention Quackshot for the Genesis.

[@st1ka]

Ah sorry 😅

[@itsasecrettoeverybody]

To Ultima and Wizardry I would add the often forgotten Rogue to the list of the most influential games not only to RPG, but those games were so loved back in the day that a lot of games can have their lineage traced back to at least one of those 3.

[@st1ka]

Very true. I forgot to mention rogue

[@mistery8363]

what do you mean by eurogame design?

[@st1ka]

European games during this era often had a very specific set of game design. It often didn't age well

[@jimmydurante138]

-obscene amount of arbitrary collectibles -game design that often focuses on collecting said collectibles in obnoxious maze like levels rather than any actual platforming challenge -platforms which often blend into the backgrounds making it difficult to judge where you actually can/can't safely jump. -janky hitboxes -player character takes damage from all sorts of random shit, most infamously droplets of water. Of course that's platformers, Euroshmup's are a whole different can of worms (bad power-up systems that usually involve a shop mechanic, basic enemies take way too many hits to kill, nonsensical enemy placement/patterns, plodding level design/your ship is typically way too slow)

[@nokou8114]

Awesome video St1ka

[@st1ka]

thank you xD

[@creativecatproductions]

Great list! Ninja Gaiden on the SMS is better than Ninja Gaiden trilogy on the snes!

[@st1ka]

I thought about that one. But it's hard to compare one game with a compilation remaster

[@NucleaRaptor]

Trilogy is such a piss-poor hackjob, it's honestly amazing.

[@st1ka]

@@NucleaRaptor I've only played bits and pieces of it. What's wrong with the compilation?

[@NucleaRaptor]

@@st1ka It completely butchers the original soundtracks with some of the most hilariously inappropriate samples imaginable (xylophones & trumpets = wtf), to the point where it's my go-to example of the SNES sound chip misuse. Pretty sure there's one or two tracks from NG3 that are just straight-up missing and replaced with something else. It's also bizarrely censored in ways that the NES originals weren't. tl;dr it's just an incredible missed opportunity. The original NG trilogy are some of the best action platformers of all time, and this (ostentibly) remaster not only doesn't do anything to improve or elevate them in any real way, it actually makes them worse. Flying Omelette has a review that goes into a bit more detail, check it out if you're interested.

[@st1ka]

@@NucleaRaptor damn I'll have to check it out

[@FarmerSlideJoeBob]

Dat ballzy coconut kick thumbnail XD

[@st1ka]

Haha yep xD

[@Mark-pr7ug]

I played the master system version of asterix with that adapter for the Sega mega drive. A great game which was very enjoyable.

[@st1ka]

It's such a fun game! :D

[@Mark-pr7ug]

​@St1ka I also think that the Master Systems res and limited number of vibrant colours often gave its games a unique cuteness. It didn't require rotating screens, multi layer playfield eye candy. Examples of what most snes games used (again and again) as a gradually boring staple.

[@st1ka]

Oh yeah completely agreed. Something about the master system's pastel color palate really works towards its favor

[@Larry]

Pit-Fighter!!! Also, to a lesser exctent Paperboy.

[@st1ka]

ooh thank you! If I get enough I might do a sequel video! :D

[@Mark-pr7ug]

I can remember playing super r-type on the snes and feeling shocked by how short, the levels were.

[@st1ka]

I prefer R-type: The Third Lightning ^^

[@prince_nocturne]

I'm trying to figure out what the tune in the very first intro part is (right after his channel intro at 0:10 ). I KNOW I KNOW IT! I just cannot for the life of me remember what it was from, and it's driving me mad!

[@st1ka]

Old Godzilla was hopping around Tokyo city like a big playground. Hope this helps

[@prince_nocturne]

@@st1ka AH! Yes! Thank you! I had the 'hopping around' part in my head but couldn't connect it to anything. haha.

[@chrisfalcon_vt]

Even with all the flaws, the "Asteroid Field" stage theme is the reason I hold Space Megaforce dearly in my heart.

[@st1ka]

That's understandable ^^

[@maynardwayward12]

I loved Maui Mallard on SNES back in the day...big nostalgia pangs when that comes up

[@st1ka]

Oh Maui Mallard is amazing!

[@MauricioCresti]

Nice video!

[@st1ka]

Thank you! :D

[@Alianger]

Good list overall. Super Aleste is still pretty nice with a great OST, the levels are just overly long and the art style less distinct. James Pond 2 has a *lot* of cut content on SMS, not exactly a destruction there though I agree with you on the sfx. Comparing to the MD I would say the Illusion games and Jurassic Park are better than their MD counterparts, and Wonder Boy 3/Monster World 2 is in some ways better than Monster World 3 (though the SMS port of the latter game isn't that great). Oh and I prefer Ninja Gaiden SMS to most of the trilogy package on SNES. Bubble Bobble SMS is better than... not having Bubble Bobble!

[@st1ka]

Yeah I have considered doing a master system vs genesis video. Maybe some day ^^

[@adultmoshifan87]

Which Jurassic Park game do you prefer? Master System or SNES?

[@st1ka]

Probably the SNES ^^

[@ricosimon1057]

Yeah, except of the tons of flaws, no save features, no maps on 3d first person.

[@JetWolfEX]

Good idea for a video, sometimes limitations do lead to more interesting and well designed games. I already was interested in that Aleste collection but I have to get that now, interesting that Power Strike 2 came out almost 2 years after Super Aleste, that might explain why it seems more impressive for the system it's on, although the other had some nice looking levels as well. You do need to play it on hardest difficulty to have fun with it otherwise it can be boring as you just hold down the fire button mindlessly. I don't think it's overrated but considering that some say it is the best on Snes or even of that generation when U.N. Squadron, anything from Konami and Macross especially were all better then I can understand why someone would think that. I have only played S.Aleste so I will have to see if I end up agreeing. I think Zanac is very boring though.

[@st1ka]

completely understandable. Power Strike 2 is one of the best SMS games, I highly recommend it! :D

[@KeenRetroGames]

Believe it or not, Asterix was pretty big in the US and especially Canada. We watched the TV show all the time, and Asterix and the Great Rescue was one of my family’s first Game Gear games.

[@st1ka]

Wow I didn't know that. I always assumed Franco-Belgian comic book characters like asterix, tintin and lucky luke were literal unknowns in the US and Canada

[@KeenRetroGames]

@@st1ka Lucky Luke had at least one game come out here, but Tin Tin only really showed up as the books, no games or movies/shows I remember.

[@KeenRetroGames]

In book form, Tin Tin was widely known, as much as Babar, Madeline, or the Little Prince.

[@st1ka]

@@KeenRetroGames oh man the tintin cartoon was very popular here. So was Babar

[@KittenRaptor]

I WISH I'd played the Ultima games when they first came out. My first PC RPG was Baldurs Gate and it kinda ruined me for more 'primitive' games. I'm a sucker for Japanese style simpler RPGs but I just can't seem to get into the older Ultimas. VII and Underworld I particularly would have loved to play when they were new but they feel so janky to me now. Any recommendations for games and formats from the series I should maybe try?

[@st1ka]

Have you considered playing the early Wizardry games? They were made in the west, but were highly influential in Japan. there's even NES and Super Nintendo ports.

[@craigix]

On real hardware, the Master System version of Robocod has parallax scrolling. It does not work in some emulators for some reason, but on real hardware it does.

[@st1ka]

Yeah it's super weird

[@darinherrick9224]

Ignore the haters. Your videos rock.

[@st1ka]

Thank you :D

[@chiissu]

For Master Systwm, I think it had the better version of: Taz-Mania, RoboCop Vs The Terminator, Jurassic Park, The Jungle Book, Ghouls 'n Ghosts and Battlemaniacs, (The last 2 as the games are not as brutal)

[@st1ka]

yeah those were great too :D

[@Fellipe2k5]

Vixi, na Outerspace vai ter uns 10 banidos depois desse vídeo

[@st1ka]

Haha

[@PyronsLair]

Cool video, this one must be a success too :D Gogo!

[@st1ka]

I hope so haha

[@SoushinSen]

Amazing intro

[@st1ka]

thank you! :D

[@jengelenm]

Great video!!!!

[@st1ka]

thank you! I try! :D

[@kikujade]

you are walking on thin ice with that headline, styka... hahahaha just kidding bro

[@st1ka]

Hahaha clearly I've lost all y credibility in the retro community

[@blackthornthetechno-prophe3697]

Surprising to see someone who knows Ultima

[@st1ka]

My icon was inspired by the wizardry games. So I'm a fan of early RPGs like Ultima and Wizardry

[@Halbared]

How about Crisis Force as a top shoott 'em up?

[@jesterskully563]

I remember the master system’s version of Rampage was WAY BETTER than the original NES version. NES you could only play as Lissy and George. Sega had all 3 monsters. Ralph was my favorite

[@st1ka]

Ooh interesting. That's worth checking out

[@diegocrusius]

sega master system truly deserves more love.

[@st1ka]

So true!

[@combatking0]

Fun fact regarding Donald Duck no Maho no Boushi: If you have a Barcode Battler II and the interface to connect it to the Super Famicom, scanning barcodes while the game is on the password screen will generate passwords based on the barcode used. Not all passwords generated in this way will work, only those already programmed into Donald Duck no Maho no Boushi will have an effect.

[@st1ka]

OMG really? that's amazing

[@combatking0]

@@st1ka Indeed. Epoch, who worked on the SFC game, also created the Barcode Battler family of products. The same functionality can be found in Alice's Paint Adventure, which oddly enough was also a Disney licensed game.

[@st1ka]

@@combatking0 damn that's amazing

[@definitivamenteno-malo7919]

Half Spanish - half French. You can imagine how many ours did I spent on the Asterix for the Master System. Fuck, remembering it, I am now on tears! Hahahaha! I'm just a 30 year old old man, now...

[@st1ka]

Aww that's actually really adorable. and I completely understand ^^