Stackmat G5 - Is it worth it? Speed Stacks Vs. Other Timers

[@Yo-je2vf]

Very nice review 👌. I'm just happy that somebody has finally reviewed the timers.

[@TwistifyCubes]

6:43 I have the Yuxin Timer V2 (the one that looks like the G4), and I have not had any of those issues (for anyone wondering).

[@iyiniyetlikotuadam]

I want to correct something, Qiyi Timer does work with every timer, it glitches sometimes but not that big of a deal.

[@lollycopter]

Which operating system have you tried it in and do you have to use QiYi's cable?

[@iyiniyetlikotuadam]

@@lollycopter Mac Os

[@daviddgtnt]

Are you using the cable that came in the box / bought with QiYi branding?

[@elmerii]

I have Qiyi timer and it works perfectly fine with CS timer if I have good cable

[@sheeshdawg8134]

Yessss a cuber finally reviewed the timer.

[@Jumpeex]

Awesome video! I bought the G4 the day before the G5 release because I purchased the QiYi 40 days ago (never received it) and I couldn't wait anymore...

[@nanayu18]

Wow that must be really disappointing, do you know if the qiyi one is ever going to arrive?

[@Parou]

QiYi Timer works just fine for me with CSTimer and other online timers on normal stackmat settings with the cable that came with it in the box.

[@askeladd2409]

The g5 still looks less aesthetically pleasing compared to the g4

[@tbf79alexis]

I prefer g5

[@DaneDePain]

G5 is goat

[@Ignnoree]

For me it is the opposite

[@JadenFR_14]

It looks nixe

[@daniel.909]

Ok so for other timers, I use the mini one and its pretty nice. I like not needing to worry about the reset button but I REALLY wish it could connect to a computer.

[@marshallpieri3737]

Mine works on a computer

[@wrmmaglev6620]

I know this is really late but cs timer go to settings than timer than stackmat

[@TheCubeChemist]

The GAN timer wasn’t too badly priced and can not only connect to computers but connects to CubeStation through Bluetooth.

[@thesphyrth]

SpeedcubeShop: We have cool timer stickers! SpeedStacks: We've re-shaped our timer.

[@SpeedCubeReview]

That's false. From my own tests the times are identical, especially not a second slower.

[@SpeedCubeReview]

This for sure won't add even a half a second. The thumb pads are not that small and very easy to hit.

[@SpeedCubeReview]

I understand the rules. Not only is it not that big of a difference, it does not matter as it's a reset for times.

[@SpeedCubeReview]

It's a marketing thing. I feel the issue is not that big and people are acting as if it is the end of the activity all together.

[@thesphyrth]

@@SpeedCubeReview I've been aware of this issue because of your G5 Video. For the Cubing Community, I personally like it because I believe G5 is better suited for Cubing. My minor gripe is that the thumb pads should only apply to STARTING, and not STOPPING. For the Stacking Community, it's a very different beast altogether. They've developed a technique to place their ARMS on the timer instead of their hands... both for starting and stopping. It places their hands very near the cup and in a position to save precious millisecond/s. G5 is basically trying to create a new era of Stacking; an era that alienates the current generation of Stackers.

[@DBrizuelaWimFocaCuberKat]

Great video, it answered all my questions and more. Thanks!

[@saahirbajaj1036]

My Qiyi Timer does work with csTimer

[@kurt1s_46]

Is his background a green screen? I could see through his head when he put up the new timer. Never noticed if this is not the first time.

[@SpeedCubeReview]

Sometimes I can't stand in front of my cubes so I use the screen instead

[@radin_mammudu]

That SIZE N SHAPE

[@asiancringekid310]

3:33 is the timer transparent. I can see the cubes behind

[@gcubing_4064]

That's green screen issues.

[@makku411]

8:03 I use the QiYi timer on CS timer?? maybe the first models were different and they fixed it. I live in Brazil and here the speedstacks ones cost about R$ 400 (our money) whereas the qiyi is only R$ 70 lol

[@Darren098loy]

The qiyi timer works with CStimer as long as you buy their data cable!

[@saahirbajaj1036]

mine does even with a non branded cable

[@StackAttack1]

As a sport stacker I am 99% sure im not switching to g5 as the way I and many others start the timer would make starting and stopping horrible. G5 seems like a big cash grab from speed stacks :/

[@DaAlvaro]

As a cuber, HOW TO RECORD TIMES IF KEEPS BLINKING

[@radin_mammudu]

6:48 I use yuxin and In my case I have no such problems it actually works fine but the plastic or whatever thing is on the button comes of other than no prob for me

[@kailashanand5086]

8:02 i have a qiyi timer and it works pretty well with cstimer i dont see any problems there

[@izumi2165]

what OS did you use it with?

[@elvinmammadzade3642]

9:52 Gan has already came out with gan mat that has those clips

[@mileswalcott6477]

Hey I don't think you put the files to the 3D timer thingies in the description... they look super cool and I'd like to print some out! Also, great vid as always

[@SpeedCubeReview]

You are right! I forgot. I'm trying to find it right now on my phone but I can't seem to find the link. I will look again when I get home. If you find it please let me know and put it here. it should be on thingiverse

[@SpeedCubeReview]

3d Printed button protectors Simple: www.thingiverse.com/thing:2814887 Fancy: www.thingiverse.com/thing:2814903

[@mileswalcott6477]

Thanks so much!

[@EddtheRexMan]

How secure are the batteries in the G5 timer? I have the g4 and decided to try deliberately resetting my times, replicating the issues seen in previous world championships. I couldn't do it. It wasn't possible. No matter how many times I tried the reset and power buttons didn't work when I slapped them after a solve. So I asked some cubers on discord and the consensus seems to be that the batteries in the g4 can be dislodged if you hit it hard enough. So yeah, do you reckon there's any way that the battery/batteries in the g5 timer could be dislodged in the same way?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

No. I heard that there was admission that the reset button was for sure the cause before. I've had no issues with the batteries

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@SpeedCubeReview maybe I just lucked out with my g4 timer! If there doesn't seem to be an issue with the g5 batteries than I think I'll pick one up! Thanks!

[@letsplaynothing7583]

I always hear so many people complaining about the YuXin timer glitching etc. But I have it and I’ve never had any problems with it, no glitches whatsoever. Guess I’m just lucky that I got a good one.🤷🏻‍♂️

[@bagacodecorococo5493]

can i use any timer in comp or i can only use the speed stacks?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

They supply the timer. You don't need to bring anything but your cube. They use the Speedstacks timers.

[@bagacodecorococo5493]

@@SpeedCubeReview ah thank you

[@NotExtraBG]

Tell me reasons g5 is better than yj timer so i know of i should buy it pls

[@codygonzales2940]

Friends be like man I wish I had a g5 stackmitt timer Speedcubereview: I gOt YoU

[@christian3145]

I hope WCA won't implement the thumbpad :( I'll still choose g4 any day its just so iconic I also have a qiyi timer and it works with cstimer but the port broke around a month

[@smove2823]

No they won't for cubing

[@sinpi314]

Did the port break in a month it a month ago?

[@Rodessenth]

My yuxin timer has been working perfectly fine for the last 5 years. The only issue it has is that it can't connect to a computer, which I don't mind.

[@potatoman3219]

Seems promising!

[@RajwinderKaur-ov7ny]

Guys, look closely and you will see that when SCR is holding the timer up, you can see throught it to the background. But when he puts it in front of his face, it goes through his face too.

[@mobilehikqrii]

Hey thanks for responding on my comment on last vid One more question Is gan x v2 better then the xs just asking iam m buying the xs tho

[@MACubing]

Go for GAN 11 M Duo

[@mobilehikqrii]

@@MACubing oh sorry i changed the comment

[@MACubing]

@@mobilehikqrii Still I prefer the Duo

[@SpeedCubeReview]

"Better" is very subjective. I prefer the X v1 over the V2, the XS, and 11. But that is mainly because the tensioning system and the weight. Your times so pretty much be the exact same even if you bought a cube that is four years old

[@pll__skip]

The problem with each timer G5: ruin speed stacks, and the design is weird G4: could accidentally reset the time Stackmat Pro: you need to use the round batteries Qiyi Timer: almost the same as G4 YJ Timer: inaccurate time? Gan Timer: too much batteries YJ Pocket Timer: you cant use it with mat and it has annoying beeping sound (you can turn it off) Yuxin Timer V1: have a useless reaction button Yuxin Timer V2: if you drop the timer, it will remove your saved time (not really a problem for a cuber), also have a useless reaction button Moyu Timer v1: use weird round magnet (same like the stackmat pro), cant connect to cstimer, weird shape Moyu Timer v2: no difference (except for the batteries) G2: Perfect G1: Hard to start the timer GX: too small

[@gcolombelli]

The G4 also seems to have issues with the reset button after a while. Mine just stopped giving that tactile feel and click sound when pressing and also became kinda hard to press after a year of use. I think I'm going to remove the faulty one and put a new button eventually, I'm just not sure how to disconnect the touch pads without damaging it to get the PCB out and change the button for a new one (I've already done this sort of thing replacing microswitches in old mouses and trackballs, can't be much harder). The plastic cover for this button also seems to fail for lots of people. It's not uncommon to see people with the button exposed or with some sticker over the button to hold it in place. I also decided to test the QiYi timer recently and out of the box it works reasonably well. It requires alkaline batteries and will have the numbers faded and hard to read if you don't have fresh batteries, while the G4 isn't as picky with batteries and will continue working just fine as long as they're not overly depleted. I'm not sure if the reset button will fail after a while too, but time will tell. The data port is also a bit finnicky, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, could be a problem with the jack, but it doesn't like most of the cables I've tried. Not really a huge deal for me as I never managed to buy one of those 90° cables and regular ones stick out a bit too much for me, so I usually just type the time.

[@saahirbajaj1036]

If the Qiyi timer is almost same as G4 but $20 cheaper then where is the PROBLEM ???

[@pll__skip]

@@saahirbajaj1036 easy accidentally timer reset

[@gcolombelli]

​@@saahirbajaj1036 The QiYi and YJ timers are probably the best budget timers out there. That said, I'm not too confident on how long those reset buttons will last on any of them. I'm not sure how many cycles they are designed to last, but I wouldn't be too surprised if it was something like 20.000 to 50.000 cycles, it is way less than microswitches commonly used in mouses that are made to last millions of cycles. It's not too hard to replace them if you have some soldering skills, but it's still very inconvenient and most people will just end up replacing the entire timer because of a failed button.

[@thegreatgdog8437]

I just bought the g5

[@origamipaperplanesandtanks8034]

I CAN and ALWAYS use my Qiyi timer with CStimer!!! I just use the stackmat mode and plug it in.

[@lollycopter]

Do you use their cable or did you supply your own aux cable? And I presume this was in Windows?

[@kingjimmycraftofcalderonia2017]

Are you sure the g5 is more expensive than the g4?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

Unless a shop hasn't adjusted prices. Speedstacks has cut their prices in half in the past couple years.

[@kingjimmycraftofcalderonia2017]

@@SpeedCubeReview Just wondering since when I checked Amazon, the Cubicle, and the Speed Cube Shop; it either does not have much of a price difference, the g4 is more expensive, or the g4 does not show up in search results. Anyways, thank you.

[@SeoulCalStudios]

Hi, im a stacker and I actually do have the gen 5 timer already. Tho, I do plan on getting the other timers as well.

[@StevenWintringham]

Have you gotten a chance to compare the timing accuracy?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

Ooh. Thank you for the reminder. Which ones and what do you think is the best approach, trying to start and stop them together or counting frames?

[@StevenWintringham]

@@SpeedCubeReview I think a combination of those two testing methods would be ideal, and it would be awesome if you could record it using a high framerate. I'm mostly interested to see how the YJ compares to the speedstacks, but I think it would be interesting to see all of them

[@SpeedCubeReview]

I've got a plan for tomorrow. Record at 240fps. Then check the frames to the time. If I can get the exact frame my fingers release and touch we should expect the time to be within about 0.01 seconds of that frame.

[@StevenWintringham]

@@SpeedCubeReview sounds like a good plan!

[@speedstackingmaniac]

I have both gen 4 and gen 5

[@xblakethompson]

I live nearby, but I don’t need the button protectors. Can you print the actual timer for me?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

Apparently yes, yes I can www.thingiverse.com/thing:3029807

[@xblakethompson]

@@SpeedCubeReview It better be on my doorstep before the end of the day!

[@SpeedCubeReview]

Yes sir!

[@Jomztherope]

That mega minx in the bottom right

[@gulgentablet2200]

Why i am seeing cubes in the timer screen :D

[@SpeedCubeReview]

magic 🪄

[@gulgentablet2200]

@@SpeedCubeReview lol

[@drecifetm]

Hi, I posted in other video of yours asking about icubes and you answer really great to me. Can I ask another question? I'm from Brazil and here I don't find the stackmat timers but I find the others that you talk in this video. So, can you tell me, asaide from the stackmat, wich of the timers do you recomend the most? I was thinking of the gan, but wanted to know what you really recomend the most. Thanks.

[@SpeedCubeReview]

Really you have three options. A Stackmat as it is what is used in comps. The Gan can use bluetooth and work well with the app, or the YJ which is cheap but tends to work just as well.

[@drecifetm]

@@SpeedCubeReview thanks.

[@mobilehikqrii]

And is qiyi timer good cuz i am buying one is it ?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

I go over the issues with it in this video

[@Darren098loy]

Get their cable if you want to connect it to CStimer on your computer

[@anitasrinivasan4893]

Hi what data connector cord so you have?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

You would want a male-to-male 3.5mm to 2.5mm

[@AnthonyRochester]

I have the later yuxin one that Shawn doesn't have and I've had no trouble with it at all

[@adarshpresanna8113]

What cable should I buy? Is it the same as the g4?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

The cable is the same

[@gokulkarthikeyan5451]

Does the g5 timer also reset if you hit it hard after a solve. Like the g4. When it caused problems during the tournaments?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

I've never seen that happen. Usually when it does reset for the G4 it's because the reset button was actually hit, not because of how hard it was hit.

[@EggyayYT]

I think the reset button will reset after 0.5 seconds to prevent resetting accidentally i think

[@shafinislamicytc4998]

One of the cubing video in the world that don't have dislike.

[@williammccord2942]

Doesn't the GAN Timer have LED lights around the edges too??

[@mjcuber7267]

After liking this vid I felt good😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

[@SpeedCubeReview]

😎

[@frederick229]

Where did you buy that and how much did it cost?

[@gcubing_4064]

On speedstacks website. There is also on amazon

[@frederick229]

@@gcubing_4064 thank you

[@ashmix2222]

Which cube should i get the Wrm 2020 or the valk elite m? Pls help me i been going back and forth deciding which cube to get

[@thesphyrth]

The WRM if you want a fast cube + a cool stand The Valk Elite (or even wait for the XMan Tornado) for a more controllable. cube + Good Magnet System

[@ashmix2222]

@@thesphyrth tnx

[@ramonlotscher6530]

I am soo confused with the cable to plug it in, which diameters do i need and where can i buy one??? Please heeeelp!!!!

[@SpeedCubeReview]

amzn.to/3bebn2K

[@ramonlotscher6530]

@@SpeedCubeReview Thanks you very much, keep the good content up

[@Commander_ZiN]

I think I'll get the GAN one as it feels more for cubes than cups :P

[@sheffer85]

clicked like, and I do feel good :D

[@AndrewTyberg]

As on writing, this video has 436 likes and ZERO dislikes. That’s the most likes I can ever remember seeing on any video with no dislikes.

[@Onlyonelivetolife]

We were at a Event today they had G5 and G4 both were working great. We were told competition G5 only. No more G4...

[@SpeedCubeReview]

G4 and G3 are allowed for use at competition.

[@yuriwanning2876]

So the yj is compatible with g4 mats?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

Yes

[@yuriwanning2876]

Ah well thanks! Have a good one

[@CubingTube]

I thought it would be smaller since it reminds me of the gx edge

[@gcubing_4064]

7f1a says that is not leagal right now.

[@miewwcubing2570]

I thought it had slide out holds

[@KnightHood525]

Congratulations you are in the early gang

[@NotExtraBG]

No im not

[@Andrew-McCormick]

I never would’ve guessed you green screen yourself in front of your cube wall. The blank timer readout gave you away!

[@SpeedCubeReview]

😆 ya, I debated taking time to fix it but... nah

[@Andrew-McCormick]

@@SpeedCubeReview you had me fooled all this time, up until now. Most people probably wouldn’t have caught that!

[@SpeedCubeReview]

To be fair, I use the actual wall only until around this year. I'm using it as the green screen now just to save space in my office.

[@Commander_ZiN]

I see it in all his vids, kinda part of the charm :P I like the different views he shows with it.

[@gcubing_4064]

6 hours and 0 dislikes, nice!

[@cubespeeder5148]

so should i get the g4 or g5?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

I go over recommendations in the video

[@Maxiie_TM]

is moyu aosu gts2m still worth buying?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

I don't see why it wouldn't be

[@zayan.hameed]

nice vid

[@CfopCubing]

Where do you live?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

Earth 🌎

[@CfopCubing]

@@SpeedCubeReview Me too! That's cool! Do you live in Oregon?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

I do not

[@baiphopratshaya]

Yuxin is cheap so i buy it even thou it doesn’t good

[@SpeedCubeReview]

It's actually fantastic with one being used for a world record.

[@michaelcox5437]

My Qiyi timer works with cstimer no problem

[@Leonardo-cw1dd]

I have the G4 stackmat timer and I've experienced weird glitches where it stops automatically when plugged into my laptop, is the same issue in the G5 timer or is it just me?

[@SpeedCubeReview]

I have never seen that. Nothing is being sent to the timer so I don't know why that would happen.

[@olivia8440]

Oh I've been waiting for this

[@CrazyCuber0]

who else realised that his shelves are actualy greenscreened? proof 0:11 we can see through the timer

[@SpeedCubeReview]

They used to not be, but I had to move things and will bring them in from time to time.

[@CrazyCuber0]

not to be what sorry if i missunderstood i speak french can you explain more pls @@SpeedCubeReview

[@VrishabAV]

The video the Cubing community has been waiting for!!

[@Magic0Cuber]

It seems like a nice timer. I might get one but only if speedcubeshop makes skins compatible with the G5 cause the skins are delicious lol

[@jalenkt1339]

lol the whole time he held the timer, the screen that shows the time is green screened and is transparent lol

[@jalenkt1339]

@Jo-anne Leyer at the start you see it. Around 10-15 seconds in the video

[@joshualiang898]

I have a yuxin v2. It is literally a g4 but green and way cheaper.

[@CUBEOYD]

Finally

[@lewseall]

G5 really grew on me during this video, for now currently i prefer G4

[@vanshmahajan367]

Hi shaun .... It is off topic but ...... have you seen stranger things ( PLEASE REPLY IF YOU CAN)

[@M_J_9_7]

*Just got the qiyi timer and mat* After seeing this : 😳

[@origamipaperplanesandtanks8034]

The qiyi timer DOES work with cstimer! Use the stackmat timer function.

[@M_J_9_7]

@@origamipaperplanesandtanks8034 I don't have pc , however I should give it a try

[@migocubing2882]

i literally got a new g4 yesterday because cubelelo didn't know about the g5 and now i see this

[@thatguy-ok3vc]

Does anyone else notice that the screen is transparent in the video

[@randomdepressedblob4611]

The first time I saw the thumbnail I was like wtf

[@coconutcubes5750]

Afterall it’s still a speedstack timer for SPEED STACKING but not cubing. WCA should really consider taking action on introducing timers for speedcubing…

[@gcubing_4064]

Regulation 7f1a says that leagal ones are G2, G3 and G4

[@coconutcubes5750]

@@gcubing_4064 yea and I suggest this rule to be amended, recall how terrible the timers were in 2017 world championships, seung hyuk nahm was literally robbed

[@khalidqureshi3168]

Damn, i didn't know this timer has a secret feature where its screen can make you see through a person😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@SpeedCubeReview]

The more you know

[@thegreatgdog8437]

Um the green screen

[@SpeedCubeReview]

No idea what you mean. It's completely convincing 😆

[@5Algsolve]

Yo

[@hellooocube487]

G5 can use with old mat can’t it ?

[@ethandram]

no:( unfortunately it’s a completely different design and the holes are different distance now.

[@nathansung3814]

the background is a green screen :( cant believe that I thought it was real...

[@SpeedCubeReview]

The shelves and cubes are real.

[@SpeedCubeReview]

Check my video of the cube collection.

[@unicornp00p90]

why is he using a green screen

[@SpeedCubeReview]

Because after I took down my cube wall people missed it. So I brought it back with magic.

[@unicornp00p90]

@@SpeedCubeReview im new to the channel so i didnt know

[@giantasiansticker8068]

Imagine accidentally press reset on this instead of stopping

[@agbulph]

5:27

[@giantasiansticker8068]

Dang

[@sunukro]

Old versions are better

[@joshua6.6.9]

tru

[@tigerfighter77]

Its preference maybe

[@Magic0Cuber]

Kinda looks like a seesaw lol

[@Cubingmino34]

I still hate the G5 I prefer the qiyi timer

[@GorggW]

It looks stupid, I'm good with my g4

[@zeyadbassiouny8898]

I don’t like the g5 as much as the g4

[@allcourt3155]

what kabul is this even

[@greenwmcubing6899]

6th

[@vanshmahajan367]

All this is so confusing now.... hah