You aren't putting 105/130 to the rear wheel stock like the dealers try to fool you with. 100/120 more like it with a stage 1.
@jetag937 ай бұрын
On my ‘24 RG I did the SE stage ll with their 511 cam, the wedge AC, and Bassani 2into1 exhaust. Dyno tuned with the SE street tuner. My dealer provides the Forever warranty on the drivetrain so that’s why I went this route. This setup really rips! I have a ‘17 street glide with a fully built Moonshine Horsepower 131” so I know fast bikes. The 511 cam is the same cam that’s in the CVO RG ST. This is well worth the $ if you don’t wanna risk losing your warranty. My dyno numbers were 125HP/133Tq on a warm humid day!
@uutube2437 ай бұрын
You are not correct about voiding warranty. It all depends where you live and whom owns your Harley dealers. Here in Las Vegas we have 3 huge Harley stores. As long as the cam shaft as example is EPA COMPLIANT and the Harley service department installs , like fueling moto CR473 cam, and even when they dyno tune that cam your warranty is NOT voided. Again this is a call by your local dealer and not the company. You live in an area with shit weather and sounds like not so great dealers. You need to move out here and all those problems go away like magic.. left NY 25 years ago never looked back..
@droppinlowz7 ай бұрын
John, warranties will not be void by Harley by using aftermarket parts and or services. Here is a bit that I copied from the lawsuit against Harley. Now they can void in the case of say you do a stage 2 upgrade with a non Harley part and say the cam explodes than they can void the warrant. In light of the findings, the FTC directed Harley Davidson to continue the warranty even if the motorcycle owner customizes the motorcycle with third-party aftermarket parts.
@painsrides7 ай бұрын
I don't own an HD but I was sure I read that HD had to change their warranty policy based on the lawsuit findings. I was a little confused when John said void policy was still in effect.
@uutube2437 ай бұрын
John IS incorrect however the parts STILL must all be EPA COMPLIANT.
@painsrides7 ай бұрын
@@bluegem6559 Luckily, I'm only watching for entertainment purposes, not informational... 😉
@augustinasvilkas7 ай бұрын
I was going to leave this comment but you already did
@dwight0727 ай бұрын
I did the stage 1 and got 48.5 mpg on my way home from Tennessee hand calculated. The tune made a big difference.
@CYCLEFANATIX7 ай бұрын
Wow good to know
@CGB657 ай бұрын
That is amazing fuel mileage.
@08StreetGlide2 ай бұрын
My understanding is the "tuner" is not actually a tuner, it's a transmitter/receiver to talk to you phone via bluetooth or should I say the app in you phone or to the laptop. The tuner is already installed on the bike. The "tuner" just lets you access the actual tuner. This was explained to me by my local HD service manager...he also recommended to not keep it installed, use it and keep it in the original box in my saddle bag...
@crypto_que7 ай бұрын
Loving this build so far. Thanks for going step by step & explaining the value/importance of the SE tune & parts vs voiding the warranty and going for all out power. I'm also a huge fan of the daily rider sound vs noise output of this build. People who are into extremes and don't ride long distances won't appreciate it but we get it.
@tommiller87147 ай бұрын
I would expect the HD-SE Stage-1 upgrade to increase power by around 10%, and possibly as much as [up to] 15%, along with improved throttle response, etc. Don't have any Dyno numbers (and more importantly the Curves), but here's the Actual SAE Dyno results (at the Wheel), 2024 Road Glide, Stock versus HD-SE Stage-2 (SE Extreme Wedge Air Cleaner, Slip-on mufflers, & SE Tuner): Stock: 94.04 wHP @ 4640 rpm. 118.45 w/Ft.Lbs. Torque @ 2980 rpm. Stage2: 119.5 wHP @ 5440 rpm. 131.02 w/Ft.Lbs. Torque @ 3920 rpm. And very nice, linear curves. Pretty darn good considering this maintains both Warranty & Emissions Compliance. Just saying. Happy Mother's Day to all the Moms out there!
@tommiller87147 ай бұрын
And of course the SE 511 bolt-in (no spring change needed) Cam.
@BPBailey857 ай бұрын
It would’ve just been better to get an Indian challenger..wtf are these pathetic numbers lol.
@randyhayden90067 ай бұрын
Thank you and Happy Mother’s Day to your wife too!
@jimpoulos22727 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, was thinking about the wedge air cleaner but didn’t think the HD tuner would do very much. From your result I think I will do the stage 1 now . Also, really appreciate your demonstrating how to do the tune using the HD tuner, seems really simple
@FrancLockyer71Ай бұрын
Hey John..love the channel and content. I was dead set on getting the SE Heavy Breather for my new '24 Road Glide until seeing the Wedge on your bike. I'm the same size as you and like the way it sits closer to the frame for better leg clearance. If you ever find yourself up in Banff, Canada...hit me up and I'll show you some beautiful mountain rides. Thanks again.
@hogluvr15 ай бұрын
Thank you! I demo'd the 24, and it is really peppy vs my 2017 (M8 107). Will see what the '25 colors look like. Glad to hear the slip ons, and that cleaner looks AWESOME! Stage 1, IMO, is just enough to wake it up & still have cordial neighbors. As a side note.... I used to commute that road (208/17), almost every day. Miss BCHD, but not the commute.
@Cherokeebilly_697 ай бұрын
Man there is definitely a difference. That throttle response is snappier. Thanks for walking use through it. Really liking the build so far. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@jaytownjunkyardfiles19997 ай бұрын
Big John, what are you doing, shorts and T-shirt 😮??? I'm watching your Beyond Rider Flannel video right now.
@FullTankAdventures7 ай бұрын
The Wedge is going on mine this week. Can’t wait!!
@MickOTooleroadglide7 ай бұрын
Hi John, definitely would look forward to a match up with Sammy awesome upgrade & a great looking air cleaner
@marvinr50547 ай бұрын
We definitely want to see you and Sammy run!
@nitromustangal7 ай бұрын
Like the tuner super easy to get it done. Screaming eagle Aced it on how easy they did this... If I had a new bike I would definitely keep the warranty... Great vid..👊👊
@kcrady727 ай бұрын
Like the direction you’re going with the bike. We’re the same age so I feel you.
@kcrady727 ай бұрын
Definitely looks better. Nice and clean upgrade.
@JonathanSBanks7 ай бұрын
Looks good, will be doing the wedge and KW 2 into 1 on my 23 RG CVO. The wedge looks good! I think I'm going with the black oiling kit to turn the filter media black for a better match on the Dark Platinum. Looking forward to how you do against Sammy. Thanks for posting!
@colvilletitus94087 ай бұрын
The bike sounds better. The power comes on rapidly but not too aggressive. cant wait to hear it on your trip.
@josephmirigliano87287 ай бұрын
Awesome video always enjoy watching
@jaycosta72047 ай бұрын
That air breather looks AWESOME!! Perfect streamline look 🤘🏻💯!! Bike sounds great John!! Ride safe 🤘🏻💯!!
@CP-bm9vs7 ай бұрын
K&N makes a black die for their filter elements. It totally would compliment Blackjacks colors perfectly!!!
@jasonp11777 ай бұрын
Black oil? That's all the red is, it's just the color of the oil. Once you clean the filter the cotton goes to it's normal color which is white.
@CP-bm9vs7 ай бұрын
@@jasonp1177 exactly, and they sell a black tinted oil for those who would prefer a black filter rather than the red.
@jorgemejias59603 ай бұрын
Awesome video brother, now you got me spending money 😂😂😂. Keep it going for all of us brother
@Hudama1007 ай бұрын
Id like to see a dyno pull just to see what the numbers are with only SE stage 1
@sammyalfaqih14917 ай бұрын
Let’s goooooooo 😄 I’ll definitely be fun. You a good rider you should hang but let me know how my rear lights look after 😉😂 yesssss let’s do it you know I’m game 👍🏼😉💪🏼
@CYCLEFANATIX7 ай бұрын
👊👊👍
@darrenmccue55107 ай бұрын
@@CYCLEFANATIX🏁 Gladiators ready! 🏁
@toddfetterly54577 ай бұрын
If you use the black K&N oil on the filter, it looks even better on the bike. I have the same filter on my bike and it made a tremendous difference over the pink color K&N filter.
@briannorwell2027 ай бұрын
Please do the SE511 upgrade before you go aftermarket
@kevinkinney54457 ай бұрын
Good safe upgrade. Congratulations, go put the 10k on your trip, then if budget allows, stage 2... BUT DO A SKUNKWORKS , Baxter upgrade with cam, lifters, pushrods, valve springs, bigger injectors, 2 into 1 exhaust, clutch basket kit, compensator , a jims fan/horn and vent the tranny case. 👍
@garyehrhardt31367 ай бұрын
Blackjack more like a Ace of Spades to me, lol, looking good looking forward to the upgrades 😁
@abdulmateen197 ай бұрын
I have the same air cleaner on my Stage IV 131 RGS…love it.
@kirb18927 ай бұрын
If they made the element facing out black, I would like it a lot better, and you can look at the other one to see how dirty it is and clean them both when needed. Good video!
@tm-dx7vr6 ай бұрын
That is a nice looking air cleaner for a Harley piece.
@michaellong60026 ай бұрын
Did the license plate as you suggested from Custom Dynamics, and now going to do the stage 1 screaming eagle...adjusted my shocks as you suggested ...no bottoming out now....
@bryanpeterson21507 ай бұрын
Harley did a great job on this air cleaner. I’ve heard dyno tuners say they haven’t found the limit for horsepower on this air cleaner.
@CYCLEFANATIX7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info
@ericroadking75647 ай бұрын
Nice intake!! Gotta get the K&N filter cleaner and oil they get dirty quick if you oil it too much that red oil drip for a couple days all over the bike remember that lol ask me how I know! Good stuff brother have fun!!
@motomortician26337 ай бұрын
I did the black wedge aircleaner and love the look. I also just switched to the black K&N filter oil.
@dressagequeens73947 ай бұрын
Yes run Sammy!!!
@Roadglide1177 ай бұрын
Like that wedge, looks sweet! Gotta get one.👍
@sammyalfaqih14917 ай бұрын
Nice bro 😎 bike coming out nice 👍🏼 definitely going to breath better 💪🏼💪🏼
@joebom19817 ай бұрын
Hello there I just traded my 03 sportster for a 2022 fatboy in reef blue never been titled with 97 miles on it & put 10 grand down also got 6 year warranty im getting stage one with bassani exhaust 2 in one pipe i love my new bike
@norbertoquiles37537 ай бұрын
I installed slips on s&s perfomance muffler my nightster special 2023 the sounds and torque insane might more power.
@patrickhollis53327 ай бұрын
Technically no one can void a warranty period they can decline a warranty claim but they are supposed to prove whatever u used caused the problem might have to fight but it does pay to go around your dealer and at least get a few things from them and relationship makes world of difference
@angelsierra19887 ай бұрын
Definitely want to see that !!!
@jetpilot1116 ай бұрын
Keep in mind there’s also more intake noise now as well. I remember how I could hear it more when I put the heavy breather on.
@CloDiaDionRivard7 ай бұрын
Would love to see the diffrence between the two bikes! 2024 117 stage1 and the 114 stage2❤
@charleslingerfelt41457 ай бұрын
That air cleaner looks great
@robertdunlop717 ай бұрын
Looks good sounds great get a run with Sammy let’s us all see how Black Jack compares 👌
@michaelroy9257 ай бұрын
That air cleaner does look 👍 The stage one is all I would do, plenty of power I'm sure 😎😃 Too bad they can't make an air filter design that you don't have to worry about rain getting in it and having to put a sock over it, that's the only downfall I have about it. But looks and performs great! 😁👍
@jasonbreedlove4955 ай бұрын
It would be killer to see the 24 Rg against a few other bikes. 114 stg2, CVO or ST 117 and even a low rider st. Get a good comparison of the motor, the weight reduction and even aerodynamics. Im digging my 24.
@RiderTalkHQ7 ай бұрын
Interesting how they repositioned the throttle body
@SilverIndian7 ай бұрын
I just show is available a Stage 2 SE for new models...120hp & 110torque.
@PresPres17 ай бұрын
Looks good 👍🏾 👍🏾
@jasonjohnson75325 ай бұрын
Good stuff bro. 💪🏽
@kellybgliding7 ай бұрын
The bike does sound different and the air cleaner looks really good 👍🏾
@playmobilfans71607 ай бұрын
Pretty bike 💪🏻😎
@rudywlopez25677 ай бұрын
Great video, very informative 👍🏼
@larryfrost37035 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the video
@CraigAquilina-fw3nn7 ай бұрын
I want to see the race
@painsrides7 ай бұрын
Always good to have more response and power 👍 Never good to be hemmed in by traffic so you can't use it... 😶
@williamsjeffrey92566 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍😊
@Rad_Rider7 ай бұрын
Awesome video man. I just might trade my 19 one of these days. My only concern w that air cleaner is on long road trips and it getting wet? Maybe not a problem. I’ll have to ask about that if I ever consider.
@nicholaszeller35597 ай бұрын
Have them checkout Earpiece ear protection. Get the highest decibal reducing. East to loose though. lol You can still hear everything but zero ear ring when your done riding.
@RT-wf6gm6 ай бұрын
Looks good.
@justinjtoldham76577 ай бұрын
Ever thought about installing a catch can to the breather bolts like your buddy on the lowrider st. ?
@robertmacdonald27357 ай бұрын
Very cool
@Bikerbug20207 ай бұрын
The air cleaner design is killer, would have been cool if the outer face was Black and Chrome.
@MaxJW-ln4xm7 ай бұрын
Let's see it !!!!
@kirb18927 ай бұрын
It is nice, but I'm not crazy about the looks of the breather but the functionality of it looks like it would hard to beat! I seen one tested on a dyno and it almost matched the performance of no breather at all!
@dwight0727 ай бұрын
I don’t put it in custom mode in the twisties too much response 😂
@JonV-r7q7 ай бұрын
John, what's the cost of this stage 1 upgrade. Air Box / Slip-on's and the tune you did.
@JMK3rd7 ай бұрын
2021 Road King here. I just did V&H slip-ons, a SE intake, and the SE tuner. Runs way better than stock...I think.... placebo effect? I'm looking to do the Auto Tune over the the next few runs but I'm worried that it will shut off the oil cooling fan that i just had Garden State Harley enable for me.
@mikemartinsr53506 ай бұрын
Make sure you have a rain sock john
@et90107 ай бұрын
Very cool Bro
@Copper02077 ай бұрын
I did the stage 1 its badass, where did you get your hand guards?
@jamesdejana46286 ай бұрын
What’s with riding in a t-shirt and shorts, didn’t expect to see you do that
@jaimebedolla98923 күн бұрын
Hey John looks great and already bought same to to go on my 24’ w/ KW slip ons , can’t wait . So I wanted to know if after you add the SE tuner and sync to your bike , are you able to sell to another user for their bike , if say I decide to do same as you in future and go aftermarket Cam and Tuner ???
@CYCLEFANATIX23 күн бұрын
No, it will be married to the Bike
@jaimebedolla98923 күн бұрын
@ thanks 😊
@michaelroy9257 ай бұрын
I'm curious, does anyone know why the air intakes are restricted from the factory? I mean just installing a high airflow filter will give a noticable increase in power, why wouldn't they do that stock? 🤔
@robertvittetoe61585 ай бұрын
I’m considering doing the same upgrades. I just ordered a set of TAB Performance slip ons. I’m just confused on the settings because only the SE pipes are listed. I watched what you did and will do the same thing. I will probably never go past stage II on my 2024 Street Glide. Is the turner worth the money? How much would a dealer charge for a tune. Bike looks great!
@Jhood0729_jerrymesser7 ай бұрын
I was just debating this cleaner for my 23 lowrider st stg 2 3030 cam. But went with Trask assault hi flow instead.
@ryant36947 ай бұрын
EPA is only going to make it more difficult to tune these bikes as time goes on. Any idea on timeline for when they think they will beable to tune?
@robertvittetoe61585 ай бұрын
Enjoying your channel and need a little guidance. I’m ready to do a stage 1 on my 2024 Street Glide. I ordered TAB Performance Slip ons with medium baffles, plan to purchase the screaming eagle pro street turner and the wedge air filter. The exact same things you did. I went to my local dealer today to ask a few questions and was told it was highly recommended I replace the head pipes too. I don’t want to do that. I know if the head pipes have no CATs my warranty will be voided. Just want to check again and see how everything is functioning. My plan is put on the TAB slip ons, install the extreme wedge air cleaner, install the turner and use the app to retune. Sound like a good plan?
@CP-bm9vs7 ай бұрын
What is that work light? Very handy looking
@CYCLEFANATIX7 ай бұрын
Snap on
@CP-bm9vs7 ай бұрын
@@CYCLEFANATIX awesome! I’ll have to take a look at it
@billdumanch62377 ай бұрын
John, isn’t that large void area in the center of the NEW air filter area, doesn’t this present an opportunity for dirtier air to enter the system? The wedge system seems designed short against a larger air draw small sides filter matter available by its own design…
@michaelgordon63223 ай бұрын
I hate the thought of ditching the "117" badge. That sucks, given that I like that look and don't want to lose it. Any advice?
@CYCLEFANATIX3 ай бұрын
They sell a 117 badge for the Cam cover
@Garage28_286 ай бұрын
bro nice info and nice bike , so can you use this tuner for aftermarket cam custom tune ?
@CYCLEFANATIX6 ай бұрын
No just for HD SE
@taylorbertok7 ай бұрын
I’d like to see your bike vs the stage 2 114 and I’d like to see it against a new cvo st.
@josecatty17 ай бұрын
I have the same bike and trying to keep up with all your same upgrades 😂, now can I just update the filter without make it stage 1 or 2?
@gertklay25 күн бұрын
Now... why does the HD webshop site say that this part does not fit a 2024 Road Glide? It says it does not fit '23 and later center cooled M8 engines.. I don't understand.
@PUREOWN7 ай бұрын
Is it possible to use this tuner to tune a bike with a header
@Robert-q6m9d6 ай бұрын
Now is good and cams are fun. Are you gonna wait two years so you don’t lose your warranty?
@CYCLEFANATIX6 ай бұрын
Definitely not
@BrizBiker7 ай бұрын
So is the CVO ST classed as a screaming eagle stage 2 ? as it has 511cam and big air cleaner
@geraldgoodiii69937 ай бұрын
The screen stops counting at 117 or 119 Other day I was pegged at 120 A brother said he was at 130 and I was pulling away fast so musta been 140+ I’m suprised the screen didn’t show actual mph 2023 FLTRX (standard) 124 SS CR482 cam Fkn thing comes on at 3000 or so.. realllly comes up 3500 Pulls stupid hard til I shift
@markburn91036 ай бұрын
Put a heal tech quick shifter on it and you’ll really see it boogie
@bgyako4 ай бұрын
Hey John, Did you the automatic tune? I saw that after you program it , you can go into auto adjust which tracks how you ride and then it fine tunes it more based on riding style
@CYCLEFANATIX3 ай бұрын
I started doing that and I am in the process of auto tuning it
@bgyako2 ай бұрын
@@CYCLEFANATIX Let me know if you see a difference. I have a 2 into 1 D&D pipe and see no difference. LOL
@jaycosta72047 ай бұрын
Will you be at Laconia this year?
@norsmanadventures7 ай бұрын
Does that air filter have a rain sock?
@davidcisneros2687 ай бұрын
Do you actually need to tune the bike for just a air cleaner
@garciaholloway34497 ай бұрын
Ok you can get the KW baffles there are 2 types from KW the more expensive ones because once you get the 475 Cam also get the HPI intake manifold your bike will be very loud! with also your bike will be faster than you can believe but i have the thunder max tuner with the oil cooler fan from Thunder Max their tuner is already flashed for the fan,