Meghan’s conversations are CRIMINALLY under viewed. Thank you Meghan for helping me love the gospel even more!!
@virginia61582 ай бұрын
I'm so grateful for these 2 podcasts. I'm a firm-in-my-faith Latter-Day Saint who is pretty fluid between maybe all these stages! Lol Lately (the last 2 decades...yes, I'm getting 'up there'), I've realized how very supernatural They (all of them, 3 or 4...) are! At this point, if our Savior returned in a spaceship, or in a Chinese weather balloon, or in a red robe riding a white horse...it wouldn't throw me. What i DO know, is that they love every one of us! Amazing, isn't it?? ❤ And I DO know Their work and Their glory is to bring to pass our (MY!) salvation and eternal life of all. It will take supernatural beings with supernatural powers to accomplish that. With huge reservoirs of patience and tenderness. The longer I live, the more in love I fall with our Heavenly parents and our Savior and the Holy Spirit (whatever that turns out to be). Thank you for bringing these 6 stages of faith to us, so we can peruse and decipher what the Lord wants us to learn from them. Great podcasts you two! Thank you ✨️
@lessthanthedust3 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this! The Church of the Firstborn! Like Joseph Smith said, The Church of the heart 🤍
@DerekPayne17913 ай бұрын
Such great conversations! Thank you Meghan and Steve
@jjhardy20002 ай бұрын
Thank you both for being the people you are- having the courage to be public about your faith journeys and how you understand truth. It is immensely helpful. You do serve as some of the much needed mentors for others who are navigating stages of faith. Regarding being born again, or baptized with fire and the Holy Ghost, you describe it here like you will know it’s happened the same way you know if you got hit by a huge truck. How would you reconcile that with the description of the converted Lamanites in the Book of Mormon who are baptized by fire but they knew it not?
@lddisciplespodcast2 ай бұрын
Great question! My interpretation would be that the Lamanites knew something had happened to them but they lacked the language to name and describe it. This was the case for me. I felt an obvious shift in my very being that lasted for weeks but I didn’t identify it as a baptism of fire until several months later because I didn’t have the words. I hope this makes sense!
@jjhardy20002 ай бұрын
Yes, that makes sense. I hadn’t thought of it that way before. Thank you for replying.
@claudiahallmark4563 ай бұрын
❤❤what are rhe stages????
@photographybycheri3 ай бұрын
They cover them in part one! kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2Ksq4F7jK55hqc
@oneclimbs3 ай бұрын
Stage 1: Intuitive-Projective This is the stage of preschool children in which fantasy and reality often get mixed together. However, during this stage, our most basic ideas about God are usually picked up from our parents and/or society. Stage 2: Mythic-Literal When children become school-age, they start understanding the world in more logical ways. They generally accept the stories told to them by their faith community but tend to understand them in very literal ways. [A few people remain in this stage through adulthood.] Stage 3: Synthetic-Conventional Most people move on to this stage as teenagers. At this point, their life has grown to include several different social circles and there is a need to pull it all together. When this happens, a person usually adopts some sort of all-encompassing belief system. However, at this stage, people tend to have a hard time seeing outside their box and don’t recognize that they are “inside” a belief system. At this stage, authority is usually placed in individuals or groups that represent one’s beliefs. [This is the stage in which many people remain.] Stage 4: Individuative-Reflective This is the tough stage, often begun in young adulthood, when people start seeing outside the box and realizing that there are other “boxes”. They begin to critically examine their beliefs on their own and often become disillusioned with their former faith. Ironically, the Stage 3 people usually think that Stage 4 people have become “backsliders” when in reality they have actually moved forward. Stage 5: Conjunctive Faith It is rare for people to reach this stage before mid-life. This is the point when people begin to realize the limits of logic and start to accept the paradoxes in life. They begin to see life as a mystery and often return to sacred stories and symbols but this time without being stuck in a theological box. Stage 6: Universalizing Faith Few people reach this stage. Those who do live their lives to the full in service of others without any real worries or doubts.
@FaveWasteOfTime3 ай бұрын
when you mention Jon Paulien (spelling??) which audio or talk were you referring to? Or do I have the completely wrong dude here...
@lddisciplespodcast3 ай бұрын
oneclimbs.com/?s=Stages+of+faith
@wenders593 ай бұрын
What an answer to prayer these two episodes have been! I literally had seen these pop up but initially thought I needed something else and yet every attempt to see view another, these just kept popping up BECAUSE it was EXACTLY what I DESPERATELY needed to hear. My takeaways in the first episode Megan says when stepping out of Phase 3 to ask "What is life without boxes instead of stepping into a different stage 3 box?" In the second Steven says , and I paraphrase" We get upset at what our kids, spouse etc do because we see their behavior as a reflection of us and we don't want that "look" ..we have to stop doing that. Let go of the feeling that you need to control other people...Alma's plea to be an angel...not his place to compel understanding behavior etc