STALKER 2 [4K] Nvidia RTX 4090 and AMD RX 7900XTX - A Next Gen 4K Experience?

[@VelcroSnake93]

You will never convince me getting about 60 fps at Native even at 4k with a 4090 is 'not too bad', even if in this case it's because the game needs CPU optimizations. UE5 needs help. 'Built with upscaling in mind' just sounds to me like it's an engine made well before we have the hardware needed to run it, especially when UE5 seems to be hardest on the CPU, and upscaling it just putting more pressure on the CPU.

[@TerraWare]

UE5 does need help. Hopefully we start to see new games with newer improved updated versions of UE5. Like Empire of the Ants for example on UE 5.4 was pretty smooth and looks great. I also left all settings to Epic which there is diminishing returns. For example dropping to the High preset the game still looks great and you get a decent bump in performance. I may look more into this if I look at the game on my other last gen GPU's I think CPU utilization is a bigger concern in this case than GPU. When even a 7800X 3D has trouble maintaining 60 that's a glaring issue.

[@chillnspace777]

Which version of ue5 are they using for this game?

[@raresmacovei8382]

​@@chillnspace7775.1

[@dystroyer1563]

bro are you insane? 60fps at 4k and a brand new game almost 2025 game with extreme details and max settings 4090 its doing great and 4090 release 2022

[@zerophyre]

@@chillnspace777 5.1 if I remember correctly

[@hquan1]

not bad for 7900XTX, and also it doesn't have official driver for this game from AMD yet

[@xSyn_]

@@hquan1 not bad? It's literally getting the same fps as a 4090 with all their quirks applied. Both with their upscalers and frame gens applied were getting 120fps average. The xtx is half the cost. That's pretty damn amazing

[@ivanrusev9464]

The 4090 didn't manage 120 like the xtx, 4090 did around 115.... UpScaling +Frame gen. But 4090 did better on native 4k

[@UndyingGhost]

When using upscaling and frame generation both cards actually performs similar.

[@TerraWare]

Yes

[@AMD718]

Even if the 4090 is a little faster at 4k with quality upscaling and frame generation enabled, say 10%, you're talking about $800 for a 7900 XTX and $2,000 for a 4090. I don't see $1,200 worth of difference there.

[@dagnisnierlins188]

@@UndyingGhost do you know what frame generation actually does?

[@ivanrusev9464]

​@@AMD718 but the 4090 was not 10% faster than the xtx. It managed around 115 while the xtx managed 120+

[@garypinholster1962]

Easy to digest and straight forward. Keep up the work.

[@qarim350xd]

Than you so much for deeply analysing thr 7900 XTX. FSR 3.1 is really a game changer here

[@Truemann45]

Sapphire nitro+ vapor 7900xtx bought at under 1000 black Friday last year. Still kicking ass

[@TerraWare]

I've been a bit tied up the last few days but am excited to finally be able to check out STALKER 2 finally. I was very curious how well the game runs as of right now and despite some performance concerns, for the most part it's alright. I do have concerns about weaker CPU's though, maybe I'll look into it in a separate video. Share your thoughts below and thanks for watching. CHEERS!

[@jeffreyrodriguez9009]

Great video combining both cards! I get anxious waiting for the XTX coverage 😂 seriously great work Terra

[@TerraWare]

@jeffreyrodriguez9009 Yeah figured I bundle them together.

[@Blazko381]

Why you enable vsync? AMD Enhanced Sync is better, because not lock fps. This always show latest frame and is good option to play with FreeSync(AMD recommend Enhanced Sync)

[@chrissteele7416]

The fact the ps5 and series X can play games at 4k 60fps with ray tracing for $500 and a GPU that cost 4x is about the same is criminal on so many level

[@zfacersane272]

5/10 ragebait

[@crackheadjonezzz]

the fact that the ps5 and series x run this game at 30 fps at 1440p at medium settings is laughable

[@teacherbinas4849]

​@@crackheadjonezzzthats not true. The game runs native 4k on xbox series x at 30 fps. Performance mode is 1440 pixels at 60 fps with 4k upscaling. Also the game isnt even available on ps5 and most likely won't be for some time...

[@mackenziekinz467]

@@chrissteele7416 these people think consoles run at 4k. That’s actually a good laugh.

[@chrissteele7416]

@@mackenziekinz467consoles run many games at 4k 60fps brother

[@PhotoJohn80]

How is the core usage? It might just be heavily single threaded and not an even load across all cores.

[@TerraWare]

It's not bad but its also not great. 2 cores are always in the mid high 60s with half of them in 30s and rest somewhere in between. The day zero patch did improve CPU utilization from what I heard so hopefully it can improve even more.

[@constantinesoldatos]

Can I be honest? From what I've seen so far and considering the circumstances under which this game was developed, it doesn't seem to run nearly as bad as people say. From what I've seen it's probably one of the much better optimized UE5 games out there. Sure it can definitely run better, personally I believe games should be getting 60fps native on a 4080/7900xtx but still it's really good and there are settings you can tweak as usual without losing visual quality. Also like Monster Hunter Wilds, personally I don't care how a game runs on "hub" areas, as long as it's above 30 since you're just walking around. The moment you leave though it needs to perform ofc. Great vid man!

[@TheWretchedWorld]

@@constantinesoldatos I agree

[@TheWretchedWorld]

People expect to have absolutely everything cranked to the highest possible settings and achieve locked high frame rates despite not having the highest end hardware

[@constantinesoldatos]

@TheWretchedWorld Yup and when it comes to UE5 there are a lot of diminishing returns when maxing out everything, specially textures which look pretty much the same on medium as they do on Ultra and you can gain a ton of performance simply by turning the shadows down a setting so far on every UE5 game I've played. My main issue with the engine is the stuttering tbh which is why I'm happy to see it at a minimum here.

[@def-po8tu]

Alot of people are on old hardware now and complain when their pc can't run the games.as well anymore. I have a friend who swares that his pc is still up for the task of running new games at high settings but it isn't and all he does is complain that the game is broken bit its not its his system

[@Abdus786]

​@@def-po8tuI think the issue is that games are not looking significantly better but the hardware demand has significantly increased So I think that's why people think their old hardware should be able to run these types of games Take for example metro exodus enhanced edition, that game looks significantly better than stalker 2 and runs better aswell, so it doesn't make sense why the old hardware is not giving the performance and visuals it clearly can

[@stangamer1151]

If the devs will add hardware RT, the game becomes even more CPU demanding. Then even 9800X3D will struggle to hit locked 60 fps, unless they improve overall CPU performance. 7800X3D should definitely be fast enough to provide 60+ fps in this game, even with HW RT.

[@TerraWare]

"7800X3D should definitely be fast enough to provide 60+ fps in this game, even with HW RT" Agreed

[@webgameman]

@@TerraWare in some time it probably will but it's like this with lot of new and unoptimized games I have better frames with my 4080 than I saw people testing 4090 and like 30+ but only difference is that I have i9 13th Gen. Its been like this with multiple early access or broken unoptimized games usually it's fixed pretty soon like a month when amd catches up and even beats Intel my theory is that somd devs mostly still use Intel and not x3d chips since Intel track record until like may was better before 13 and 14th Gen started to kill them self. From what I heard some unreal 5 studios had only intels but had to switch because failure rate was almost 100%. Like I agree that amd x3d chips are better but man for broken games Intel still rules only if they didn't burn them self to the ground and didn't use 250w+

[@gtxshield]

I play in ultra at 1440p native with frame generation at 120 fps with 7900 xtx

[@TerraWare]

Nice. I primarily play at ultrawide 1440 myself

[@CrossplatformGamerMasterRace]

Yeah when you are talking about upscaling at 4K Quality is 2560x1440 that's a 66% drop is resolution Balanced is 2290x1270 that's very close to 1440p. Nice video tho thanks for the information I don't have Gamepass atm but good to see I think after I complete the two games I got lined up this game should be nicely patched up hopefully.

[@armedrepublic]

Look through a red dot scope with frame gen on, I get such bad ghosting that its unusable with 7900xtx. So I stick to fsr/native aa @1440p, on linux the game has been extremely stable and maintains 60-70fps on epic

[@MirelRC]

I recommend testing XeSS with AMD hardware, sometimes it can be the better choice, like in this game, especially at lower res.

[@MouseSpart]

De acord. am observat in Cyberpunk prima oara treaba asta.

[@MirelRC]

@@MouseSpart oricum Cyberpunk 2077 are cea mai proasta implementare de FSR. Dar da‚ tot in Cyberpunk am decis sa ii dau o sansa XeSS‚ si chiar isi face treaba‚ iar in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 este super util‚ chiar si la 1920x1080‚ in schimb FSR in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 este deranjant in miscare la 1080p si pe un ecran mic (22")

[@nathanpeabody4388]

I'm running a 7900xtx and it runs like a top.

[@gamingfromjohnwayne]

Use lossless scaling to see what it does😊

[@tomh9487]

you can up the power limit to get more out of it in the adrenaline software

[@RJTHEGAME]

Actually found FSR FG isn't working on Nvidia GPUs also, got the option there but not sure if it's FSR 3.1

[@thaddeus2447]

you can actually stack game framegen with afmf2 making it double in performance

[@dagnisnierlins188]

It does not increase performance, it's just a frame smoothing technology.

[@deadrift886]

remember a time when what you were looking at justified what was needed?

[@Beam_Teamer]

yeah lol, because everyone started using Unity and UE

[@Beam_Teamer]

when devs wrote their own engines

[@XDDX_NZ]

Great video. I would disagree about FSR in this game actually, I don't think it looks good when you move the camera, especially the foliage, of which there is a lot. I think TSR looks much better and you can use FG with TSR so I think that's the way to go here. For FPS capping I would also recommend using the ingame FPS cap since it will have the lowest latency, or the reflex cap on Nvidia. The frametimes were very smooth in your 7900XTX footage, good to see that from a UE5 game. I think if Silent Hill 2 launched with FG then people would have been a lot happier with that game, because this game runs similarly to that, but frame gen makes it feel a lot better.

[@Bourinos02]

Well, DLSS or FSR are both quite noticeable, what I didn't expect is that "regular" TAA is also noticeable... Which was unexpected.

[@RJTHEGAME]

Tested it with my 4080 Super & 7950X3D & it's pretty close to the 4090 performance XTX should be doing better tbh in this game imo but might need a driver

[@jeffreyrodriguez9009]

It seems UE5 really compress GPU performance, there isn't that usual 30-40% gap you see outside UE5 games between the two cards

[@RJTHEGAME]

@@jeffreyrodriguez9009 It seems so, been seeing it lots recently with the UE5 games on the benchmarks. All 3 GPUs are totally fine once upscaling is enabled & FG on EPIC maxed but UE5 really heavy at 4K

[@RJTHEGAME]

The 4080 Super has actually constantly surprised me also, I have it overclocked & it really has done well in a lot of recent games all maxed, does great in Veilguard too

[@Fatalxw]

Wait for optimization and proper drivers people..

[@roki977]

Game is full with all kinds of bugs, i played round 10 hours on 7800xt and GRE and both need to be set to high at 1440p to get round 60fps with little upscaling. XeSS is more stable than FSR in this game and it gets cpu limited in many situations.. Very simillar fps like MechWarrior with same CPU limitations..

[@kevinthorn9672]

How does a rtx 4090 32gb ddr5 i9 14900k run this game?

[@MouseSpart]

i got the exact same AMD build but undervolted at 1120mv and it stays at 2950mhz on 2k.

[@i11usiveman97]

Frame gen is such a great technology, if they clean up some of the image garbling in motion then I would use it a lot more. It is better in some games like Cyberpunk and Alan Wake 2, image quality wise on an Nvidia GPU

[@LordChankaXKhan]

Runs into every trip mine and just tanks it

[@dystroyer1563]

yes its need some optimization in city village but in open field its ok

[@beyondearth6418]

"It's not too bad guys": you have a 4090, a card that costs upward of $2,000 while the vast majority of gamers have something closer to a 4060 or a 4070 or below.

[@TerraWare]

@beyondearth6418 I've also looked at the 3080Ti which is around a 4070. It's pretty good. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIPMdopjaZeqn9Esi=30p_6_mvYeN_YTPR

[@Lero_Po]

I was unaware that people played games at 4K res on 4060s and 70s. You learn something new every day, I suppose.

[@batouranger2553]

And I hoped 4k will some day be affordable. But it looks like even the 4090 needs to depend heavily on KI fake frames before the next gen is even released. Poor G4AmErS who bought the 4090 for "Future Proof". Well, time to save for the rtx 5090 Ti Super and the overpriced new X3D. Reddit says it will be ackchyually worth the money.

[@drpotato5381]

Using reddit for your hardware choices isnt really good lol. They honestly just scream at you to throw as much money at a system as you can but it's way better to build around your use case and target resolution+FPS. Can't trust the userbenchmark site either leaving mostly only gamer nexus and tech power up for semi reliable data.

[@SKHYJINX]

Can you mix DLSS and FSR Framegen in this game?

[@mylovich1303]

@@SKHYJINX yes

[@SKHYJINX]

@mylovich1303 thanks for letting me know 👍

[@mylovich1303]

@@SKHYJINX np my guy

[@Pidalin]

I tried FSR frame generation, but it makes mouse extremely delayed, is it better with nvidia frame generation? And if it needs higher FPS to generate more FPS propely, then whole purpose of that technology is pointless. I don't want high FPS because of high FPS, I want it to lower delay, that's the main purpose of high FPS for me. Playing in 120 FPS feels much better than playing in 60 becuse delay is lower, but when 120 FPS is fake and it's actually 60 or less, then it doesn't feel like 120 FPS even wen FPS counter shows 120 FPS, it's fake.

[@nimaarg3066]

4090 is going obsolete for 4K gaming before even 5090 is released.

[@TheWretchedWorld]

Yes it’s obsolete because it struggles to hit 60 in 1 game

[@simptrix007]

@@TheWretchedWorld Well Its not just the one game.

[@Chicken-o5e]

If only games were better optimized

[@KamWysz]

Same thing when the 3090 when it came out, was a 4K card for 18 months a few months before the 4090 came out and then it's been a 1440p card since then. I doubt the 5090 will last longer than 2 years at 4K either, Nvidia does this on purpose to make you upgrade.

[@SaintMichel.]

4090 is monster and good for 4k. Dev are obsolète, this is true

[@bigdaddywatt]

Still no AMD drivers for it

[@rollerr]

This game isn't even that "unoptimized". It's just the latest victim of the 3070 owner brigade who unfortunately got scammed by nvidia into buying a card that doesn't have enough vram.

[@drpotato5381]

@@rollerr actually toxic

[@rollerr]

@drpotato5381 I'm not wrong though. You know how many comments I've read of people saying it's a stuttery unplayable mess? Then they post their settings and spec and it's inevitably a 3070 user trying to play on high/ultra at high resolution. They're running out of VRAM and blaming the developer instead of their hardware.

[@drpotato5381]

@@rollerr you aren't wrong but the thing about the 3070 owners is a lot of them bought around the time that they could finally realistically get their hands on an Nvidia GPU that's a reasonable price. They could've bought AMD but for whatever reason gamers really really want Nvidia even after all these years of AMD proving to be better value for the money. Nvidia is gonna do this VRAM bs again with the 50 series mark my words theyve ruined the 70 series GPU class. There gonna release their BS 70, 70 ti, and 70 ti super duper just like the 40 series. They've optimized obsoleting your hardware via VRAM.

[@rollerr]

@@drpotato5381 Yep, spot on. They're basically drip feeding people performance. The sad part is it seems to be working.

[@metagames6396]

7900xtx is a beast and only for 900$ and get 45 fps in 4k native againt 60 fps from 4090 ( 2000$ ) with dlss + FG reach 120 fps againt 7900xtx reach 111 fps in fsr + FG this a message for nvidia fans who defend the green space and buy a gpu with 2k$ over 900$ gpu with few fps gain.

[@BoxofBargains]

Getting the same fps 7800x3d 64gb ddr5 6400mt 4070tisuper max graphics settings

[@salvatoreesposito8994]

What do you use for fps capping?

[@TerraWare]

Riva Tuner Statistics Server

[@salvatoreesposito8994]

@TerraWare Oh same, works great on pretty much everything. Btw i actually like the game a lot but i encountered so many glitches and crashes that i decided to refund the game for the moment. I'm sure that the devs will patch out most of these issues

[@Devil1nside974]

something must be wrong on your PC I have a RX 7800 XT and a R7 5800X3D I don't have any cpu limited problem, I play in 4K FSR3 Quality and FG activated 80-100fps on average

[@وليدحسيناشتيوي]

​​@@Devil1nside974 I think some people said that RAM effect CPU performance massively in this game that's why we see different results from similar systems. The game needs to be tested for that.

[@dagnisnierlins188]

What's your actual fps? Frame gen does not improve performance.

[@mackenziekinz467]

The 5800x3d just eats this game alive, Ive had one singular lag spike in my 13 hours of playtime. The most stable experience I could of asked for. Anyone getting stutters just cant set up a PC properly. Did I mention Im using a rtx 2070 as well. Zero issues.

[@dagnisnierlins188]

@@mackenziekinz467 how much ram do you have? Resolution you playing, does your gpu usage go below 95% utilization.

[@mackenziekinz467]

@@dagnisnierlins188 64gb 3600, 1440p with DLSS and fsr frame gen, and no the gpu stays at 99%

[@rzkrdn8650]

This game is a joke optimization wise. Totl gpu buyers most likely gonna buy 4k monitor/tv too. The gameplay is intriguing to me, but the bugs and performance is a no no for me. Gonna vote with my wallet this time. Thanks for the tests!

[@TerraWare]

Yeah good idea. I often follow up on performance improvement updates so hopefully it improves soon.

[@ESKATEUK]

This game doesn’t look remotely good enough to justify how poorly this runs. UE5 is an unfinished, unpolished pile of junk. And there was no reason for that 7800x3D to be bottlenecking. My 3080 can only run this game at 1080p, yet can run metro exodus at 4k 60. That’s an enormous difference considering I would say metro overall actually looks better.

[@DrLecter80]

AMD Power!!!!

[@gurujoe75]

horrible !! perf, very weak UE5 code, bland generic gfx, zero next gen.

[@IIGIROII]

bruh

[@Abdus786]

Metro exodus looks AND runs way better than this game, there is no excuse for such horrible performance, they just didn't put in the work At best, this game looks like escape from tarkov and that game is wayy more optimised

[@maroosagaming]

another garbage game, can't play smoothly without needing some garbage filters that blur the image with TAA

[@meltinsr]

Actually 7900xtx is getting more fps in combo FSR Q + FG than DLSS Q + FG on 4090 wich is very impressive

[@TerraWare]

@meltinsr FSR FG is generating more frames allowing it to catch up. Have seen this in a few other games.

[@meltinsr]

@TerraWare i have the 7900xtx but I don't use fsr quality because of the quality it's not that good but the FG is very good actually i can say better than nvidia FG that I used sometimes in my 4070 wich I don't use dlss quality again for making image blurry.

[@TerraWare]

@@meltinsr FSR FG is pretty good.

[@UKKN516]

Nvidias stuttering issue is getting out of hand in these UE5 games not enough vram is starting to really hurt them in the 1% lows because of it I expect more titles to have this issue with nvidia GPU’s AMD is going to age like fine wine on UE5.

[@22Chad_Reed22]

you speaking in general? neither gpus get anywhere near running out here.

[@Spratty-wb3is]

Both gpu's have 24GB of vram Make this comment make sense 🤷‍♂️

[@ZeroZingo]

more like fine whine

[@mackenziekinz467]

@@Spratty-wb3is Like actually. Im running this game on a 2070 at 1440p. Its smooth as butter. Stutters are user error 99% of the time.

[@mllecamill3]

And honestly, who cares about "native"? Honestly, "native" was never really a thing if you think about it. It has become meaningless. DLSS can provide the same or even better picture quality with a lower resolution, intelligently upscaling with AI. Do people still want SSAA today because "only that" is the real true resolution? Give me a break. What people call native is already TAA anyway. Nobody wants a game without any anti-aliasing. Do people even know what the hell they’re talking about?

[@MakeSh00t]

Stalker 2024 game almost 2025 looks like crap after 25minutes i uninstalled, i have 4090... 7800x3d its crapiest game ever made. Game looks horrible and game play is bad.

[@SuperSlokky]

trees lods are fairly distracting.

[@TerraWare]

Yea it can be noticeable.