Stanford University announces new 'free speech' policies

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@gctg
@gctg Ай бұрын
They are backpedaling because the alumni are tired of this behavior, and withholding donations. Not because it's the right thing to do.
@06barcafan10
@06barcafan10 Ай бұрын
Unless the university stops taking federal money they should be forced to honor existing free speech law.
@Sulliseyessmile
@Sulliseyessmile Ай бұрын
No at the cost of vandalism and terrorizing other students.
@AlanBoris451
@AlanBoris451 Ай бұрын
@@SulliseyessmileSo you support banning free speech in American schools, yes or no!!?
@Mapqwerry
@Mapqwerry Ай бұрын
Here is a crazy and radical idea: let us defer to the 1st amendment and honor the constitution.
@Mocha4Man
@Mocha4Man Ай бұрын
What would Leland Stanford Sr, Do?
@Halewillly
@Halewillly Ай бұрын
​@@Mocha4Manwho cares what he would think?
@KK-pm7ud
@KK-pm7ud Ай бұрын
You write this like you understand what both are
@Mapqwerry
@Mapqwerry Ай бұрын
Yes, I know the law despite the loser below who asks otherwise. I believe in the 1st amendment and the Bradenburg v. Ohio test. My opinion is that we have a bunch of zealot Zionists who think that threatening to withhold donations to these universities gives them carte blanche to silence a bunch of students who are horrified by what is going on in the Gaza and the West Bank. Sorry, the moral war here has been lost. Young people will not support Israel as their parents and grandparents did. Trying to put restrictions on free speech on college campuses and forcing these students to give their names will not change this. If the demonstration is not illegal, then why should these students have to identify themselves? Being forced to give your name to a University official every time that they ask during a demonstration has a chilling effect on free speech. What is next? A loyalty oath?
@rickrobbins1037
@rickrobbins1037 Ай бұрын
Violent protests are not free speech
@johney4484
@johney4484 Ай бұрын
People should go to college to learn and be educated. Not to protest and disrupt the school.
@AlanBoris451
@AlanBoris451 Ай бұрын
True, but maybe banning free speech is NOT the best ideal answer either
@KyleSmith-d3u
@KyleSmith-d3u Ай бұрын
too bad it will not be enforced
@s070887
@s070887 Ай бұрын
Love how all the kids stop caring as soon as it was summer party time. Lol
@Halewillly
@Halewillly Ай бұрын
You know they went home right? And have still been engaged. Do you ever step outside of your echo chamber or nah?
@KK-pm7ud
@KK-pm7ud Ай бұрын
From the river to the sea until our beach party
@Halewillly
@Halewillly Ай бұрын
@@KK-pm7udyou?! LMFAO..some internet tough guy who would piss himself, if seems unlikely. Hahaha
@kalijasin
@kalijasin Ай бұрын
Their adults Not kids.
@sitechca70
@sitechca70 Ай бұрын
When it suits these students, it's "protected free speech". When it does not, then it is "hate speech" that must be shut down. Remind me again, who is the threat to democracy?
@stevenkuykendall1079
@stevenkuykendall1079 Ай бұрын
I think you mean it's the elite who decide when free speach interferes with their agenda and then twist things until the Constitution is meaningless. Quit defending abuse of the constituttion, people like you are destroying it.
@kalijasin
@kalijasin Ай бұрын
Hate speech is abusive or threatening. Free speech is Not.
@AlanBoris451
@AlanBoris451 Ай бұрын
But then American conservatives are no less guilty, if they choose free speech and no speech speech here which side would most favor??
@garymckee7739
@garymckee7739 Ай бұрын
Nothing will change.
@kalijasin
@kalijasin Ай бұрын
Because universities sold out to Zionists.
@chrisbrimhall1613
@chrisbrimhall1613 Ай бұрын
A peaceful protest should be embraced……..these HAVE NOT BEEN PEACEFUL…..they have committed crimes during these protests
@ailblentyn
@ailblentyn Ай бұрын
Overwhelmingly, the violence has been against the protesters. And overwhelmingly it’s been condoned by administrations.
@usernotfound7481
@usernotfound7481 Ай бұрын
What F*ing brilliant statement, you can copy and paste those words and make it about any protest. “Hey, but they committed crimes…”
@AlanBoris451
@AlanBoris451 Ай бұрын
But they argue it is bc Netanyahu’s govt is committing an ongoing genocide in the Middle East, violating international law hundreds of times….
@RandomRabbit007
@RandomRabbit007 Ай бұрын
I love how these powerful institutions (Academics, Tech, Hollywood/Music, Gaming which were all controlled by The Left) are having to scale back their tyranny and social-engineering now. They realize they have MASSIVELY damaged their credibility/standing in our society now. People are awake and calling them out for their contradictions and their Totalitarianism. Just look at Hollywood, people don't even go to see movies anymore, every major movie is losing HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars. Same can be said of Academia, alot of people are completely against going to college now (add that to the "enrollment cliff" that should start in 2025). We will vote with our $$$ .... In the end, TRUTH always wins.
@Joe-l6o
@Joe-l6o Ай бұрын
you said gaming lmfao go outside
@RandomRabbit007
@RandomRabbit007 Ай бұрын
@@Joe-l6o Solid argument lol ... I remember when I was 12, good times.
@Halewillly
@Halewillly Ай бұрын
Nothing you said make any rational sense. Go read severalbookks. "Social engineering!?" 😂😂😂😅😅😅😂😂
@PassTheCollectionPlate
@PassTheCollectionPlate Ай бұрын
@@Joe-l6o He’s right, wokeness took over everything
@kennethmeeker6369
@kennethmeeker6369 Ай бұрын
People automatically think there activists from these Ivey league schools very hesitant to hire without thorough background checks.
@Goodguy1ful
@Goodguy1ful Ай бұрын
Interesting to see all these schools suddenly become so committed to creating "safe spaces " to protectect students t from "microaggressions "
@thumperjdm
@thumperjdm Ай бұрын
A university thinks its policy can supersede the US Constitution? That's adorable.
@kitcarpo4745
@kitcarpo4745 Ай бұрын
The problem was not your policies, that is gaslighting. The problem is your political attitude and opinion.
@CPAgamer313
@CPAgamer313 Ай бұрын
Freedom of speech and policy don’t belong in the same sentence
@Ginger-dn2lx
@Ginger-dn2lx Ай бұрын
Exactly
@satiricgames2129
@satiricgames2129 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 they always had them fkwit
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 Ай бұрын
Yes they do. The “protests” on campus have clearly shown that. You need a policy to explain where you draw the line with regards to activities that are not part of free speech, but have been tolerated so far: occupations, vandalism and such. And especially at a university, you need a policy to ensure the right of free speech of everyone, and guarantee a free exchange of ideas. That puts a reasonable limit on where and when you can exercise that free speech.
@kalijasin
@kalijasin Ай бұрын
Their policy is to protect Zionists and criminalize Muslims and Palestinian supporters.
@AlanBoris451
@AlanBoris451 Ай бұрын
Agree some students are too wild but banning free speech on campuses will have an eventual chilling effect and negative impact on many students, leftist rightist and centrist alike, so TBH this doesn’t feel right. :(
@viperq
@viperq Ай бұрын
People forget the first amendment does not apply to private people, businesses and organizations. Stanford University is private.
@jcg4350
@jcg4350 Ай бұрын
First Amendment applies everywhere in the US territory ( public and private ), but ultimately the private property owners are legally able to swiftly trespass you from their private property under the guise of disorderly conduct disrupting their business.
@olagamartinez7242
@olagamartinez7242 Ай бұрын
❤VOTE WITH YOUR HEART❤TRUMP2024 AMEN,AMEN❤
@jonathanchang1574
@jonathanchang1574 Ай бұрын
Trump wants to bring American troops into Gaza to kill women and children. What makes you think he'd be more pro-Palestine on American campuses? Republican congressmen have literally been pushing bills that make criticizing Israel illegal.
@kytaem
@kytaem Ай бұрын
They already had rules and policies protecting speech and prohibiting harassment , none of it applied, please ask why these policies will be any different
@thetruthhurts5596
@thetruthhurts5596 Ай бұрын
What is the deal with palestine? All I know is it is costing the USA a lot of money
@DagNeb_It
@DagNeb_It Ай бұрын
Well, from my understanding. Some dude from the Bible could not have a kid with his wife, a higher deity told them to be patient, bro could not and got his maid knocked up but also ended up getting his wife knocked up. And now there is a fight over who owns the land.
@DeenaMilkers
@DeenaMilkers Ай бұрын
uhhh, if you think thats costing us money, look at how much welfare we send the zionist state
@thetruthhurts5596
@thetruthhurts5596 Ай бұрын
@@DagNeb_It damn. And that’s what these kids are protesting over?
@drewbryant5171
@drewbryant5171 Ай бұрын
It going to cost more 200 billion already to the Ukraine
@blazer9547
@blazer9547 Ай бұрын
​@@drewbryant5171 atleast Ukrainians are our people
@freddiecarr7602
@freddiecarr7602 Ай бұрын
free speech if they approve it!
@jppalm3944
@jppalm3944 Ай бұрын
Only doing it because losing Jewish donations.
@itweety21
@itweety21 Ай бұрын
AIPAC Behind all the new college rules 🤭
@izzyc1570
@izzyc1570 Ай бұрын
No just common sense. Most people think harassment is bad 🤦‍♂️
@nancyrobertson8661
@nancyrobertson8661 Ай бұрын
Iran and Hamas behind all the protests.
@macharrington7733
@macharrington7733 Ай бұрын
Stanford is in California. I avoid it like the plague
@eyepatch3769
@eyepatch3769 Ай бұрын
You probably never been to California What state are you from?
@macharrington7733
@macharrington7733 Ай бұрын
@eyepatch3769 lol....been there at least 50 times. Most of my relatives lived there. I have one first cousin still in Daly City. The rest woke up and got out.
@mchume65
@mchume65 Ай бұрын
As a kid, I watched college protests on TV in the 60's. They were about civil rights and the Vietnam war. Two legitimate causes. Today it is about protesting for the sake of protesting. Some call it Selma envy, as in the Selma Alabama civil rights march. They wish they had a cause like that, but they don't, so they pretend they do. Group think and cosplay. Kids in their late teens to early twenties that think they know everything because they took some liberal arts classes taught by professors that never held a real job in the real world. The same thing year after year for the last fifty years or more. "Oh, we're in college now. Let's put on our protest uniforms, (head scarves, etc.), beat on drums, and chat dopey stuff."
@charliebarton
@charliebarton Ай бұрын
Having been a veteran who protested the Iraq War, I hear you, but how many blanket statements did you make in you two paragraphs here? I mean, they all fit you description, really? Also, Jesus, our country is supporting ethnic cleaning and / or genocide with our tax dollars and best in our name. If these kids are the only people protesting, my hat is off to them.
@ClayWeblogistics
@ClayWeblogistics Ай бұрын
Truth is that we have as much to protest about as any past. The thing is that the things to protest about are what the news in not reporting on. Cartel Soldiers coming into the US in huge numbers this is being caused by Democrats. Voter Fraud that is being carried out by Democrat Affiliated people who are cheating mostly for Neocon Democrat Grifter Politicians. Criminal use of the DOJ by Non-elected people. Removing these leeches from the Government is part of Project 2025. It is the part that Oligarchs are crazy about.
@nonyabusiness557
@nonyabusiness557 Ай бұрын
Dems in the south from 1960 love this
@guy-tn2ud
@guy-tn2ud Ай бұрын
HEADLINE "Stanford University announces new 'free speech' policies: Left wing students violently protest the wordimg"
@giftedgreen2152
@giftedgreen2152 Ай бұрын
Are we still pretending the Bay Area doesn’t run on communism?
@RandomRabbit007
@RandomRabbit007 Ай бұрын
100% correct. And they think it will improve their lives (which are already great if you were born/raised in one of the most desirable places on the planet, the Bay Area. Trust me when I say people from the Central Valley would eat you for breakfast). You have nothing to gain, you have EVERYTHING to lose .... But mistakes are often made in our youth, most people dont learn until they've suffered. Well the time has come to learn that your actions will always have consequences. And these consequences will ripple through society (as they always have). It's sad that we have to constantly learn the same lessons every 40-50 years.
@giftedgreen2152
@giftedgreen2152 Ай бұрын
@@RandomRabbit007 most vaccinated place in America.
@ejcked
@ejcked Ай бұрын
Are we still pretending USA doesn't run to benefit zionism?
@mr.d7237
@mr.d7237 Ай бұрын
San Francisco has the world’s 5th highest concentration of Ultra High Net Worth (UHNW) individuals. These people are rich. OPEN YOUR EYES.
@giftedgreen2152
@giftedgreen2152 Ай бұрын
@@mr.d7237 the Bay Area is full of betas. Betas need a leader.
@fridayrestday
@fridayrestday Ай бұрын
If a school gets government money, then they shouldn't be letting the push for ideology and harassing people of any faith or color. You wouldn't let the KKK on campus so don't let anyone do stupid stuff.
@gergc4871
@gergc4871 Ай бұрын
'Free speech'
@johnblack6819
@johnblack6819 Ай бұрын
If vandalism occurs to buildings, threats and assaults commited against bystanders, who within the protest is responsible, and how are they to be identified if wearing masks?
@subzero7551
@subzero7551 Ай бұрын
Soooo. Less free speech is what I’m hearing. FU AIPAC
@KK-pm7ud
@KK-pm7ud Ай бұрын
It's not less free speech. What they were doing before was illegal and they should have been placed in prison.
@kalijasin
@kalijasin Ай бұрын
That’s what I’m Hearing too.
@efoff652
@efoff652 Ай бұрын
Again, why should people feel the need to cover their faces if they stand on the side of justice? Oh wait, they know they’re evil.
@User9681e
@User9681e Ай бұрын
They are commiting crimes for justice of Islamic occupiers who want Sharia in the USA
@kobe24j
@kobe24j Ай бұрын
What happened to freedom and democracy?
@KK-pm7ud
@KK-pm7ud Ай бұрын
It's still there. You just have a misunderstanding of what it is.
@kobe24j
@kobe24j Ай бұрын
@@KK-pm7ud I know what it is because I live in the US.
@KK-pm7ud
@KK-pm7ud Ай бұрын
@@kobe24j Just because you live somewhere doesn't mean you understand what'l it is.
@kobe24j
@kobe24j Ай бұрын
@KK-pm7ud hmmm, I'm pretty sure I know what it is.
@kobe24j
@kobe24j Ай бұрын
@artandarchitecture6399 the protest wasn't targeting Jewish, tho. It was protesting against Israel from genocide Palestinians.
@briankelly1817
@briankelly1817 Ай бұрын
The same things happened in the 1960s. So no, colleges didn't learn
@scdrescher1
@scdrescher1 Ай бұрын
For many, college is where you grow up a little and learn how you want to integrate into society. If you post hateful rhetoric on someone’s door then you should learn, very quickly, what society does to people who think their opinion is more important than another’s right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you think it’s ok to express your anger by vandalizing public property or intimidating others into your way of thinking then you’re following the playbook of the very people you claim to hate. Honestly, any institution that spends time devising a list of “offensive words” is asking for this kind of behavior.
@daryoushsameyah8329
@daryoushsameyah8329 Ай бұрын
The better question is "WHY?" "WHY" is that one people are so hated by so many and for so long? Is that throughout history of mankind, every other culture, every other country, every other people, and every other religion has been wrong and only one right?
@nickmitsialis
@nickmitsialis Ай бұрын
You forgot to add 'the people who've been expelled from 130+++ countries', comrade.
@daryoushsameyah8329
@daryoushsameyah8329 Ай бұрын
@@nickmitsialis Hey that's an honest question!
@nickmitsialis
@nickmitsialis Ай бұрын
@@daryoushsameyah8329 "These people" got scattered and exiled to the far reaches of the Roman Empire--but not before Rome killed a few hundred thousand of 'em and sold the rest into slavery. They had done to them what the Carthaginians had done to them-except they survived and wrote their history. Oh and they 'thrived'--which is probably why they're hated: outsiders making a successful living where the locals could not. The Chinese in Southeast Asia, the Indians of East Africa have a similar problem...there's always people who think if they kick 'em out or kill 'em, they'll just 'nick their swag'.
@daryoushsameyah8329
@daryoushsameyah8329 Ай бұрын
@@nickmitsialis So it's because of their success? Where the locals had failed, or at best, scratched a living, THEY thrived? Are you talking about the "Jealousy" factor for their hatred and mass extermination? Please explain further.
@nickmitsialis
@nickmitsialis Ай бұрын
@@daryoushsameyah8329 That's why they're hated by my family in 'the old country': "Soft people who spend their time counting money"; Lotsa my countrymen are rich because after The Germans scooped them up, their remaining 'assets' got scooped up but opportunists; I don't know what you mean by extermination; Are you projecting? They ain't exterminated anybody, bub==but do they make good scapegoats? Sure! The reason that they are also hated is because they were expected to roll over and die in 48--Did their not so friendly neighbors think they were going to just 'take it' after coming out of 'The Camps'?
@MrJackwork
@MrJackwork Ай бұрын
Maybe they could concentrate on learning some marketable skills for a change.
@anthonymorris5084
@anthonymorris5084 Ай бұрын
Agreed, but professional protesting has become a new occupation.
@HappyNeuron-qu9sx
@HappyNeuron-qu9sx Ай бұрын
Its absolute. Policies lol
@AB-ov1zm
@AB-ov1zm Ай бұрын
So its curbing freedom of speech
@edwin3813
@edwin3813 Ай бұрын
Erecting rules without specifying the penalty is meaningless
@Stellectis2014
@Stellectis2014 Ай бұрын
Indoctrination farm!
@mattnewhouse1781
@mattnewhouse1781 Ай бұрын
Advocating for murder and rape of Jews is not protected speech.
@SixBarrel
@SixBarrel Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 the first book ,that this students need to read is " 1984" for see the 💩 to the eyes , and dont live in a pink candy world 😂😂😂
@helenaduch5696
@helenaduch5696 Ай бұрын
💜VictimeHood 💛Idea💛
@grampydeathblade2217
@grampydeathblade2217 Ай бұрын
So their new policies are as weak as the old policies and will be enforced just as little.
@daryoushsameyah8329
@daryoushsameyah8329 Ай бұрын
Freedom of speech! Freedom of expression! Freedom of assembly! Has Stanford ever heard of THOSE? Obviously not!
@mickaderholt3534
@mickaderholt3534 Ай бұрын
Any protest on college campuses should be banned.
@AlanBoris451
@AlanBoris451 Ай бұрын
But why?? If that takes place all conservative protests will also be restricted
@mastercabbage
@mastercabbage Ай бұрын
New rule, no criticism of Israel.
@fatteebaddee
@fatteebaddee Ай бұрын
Another add-on rule is play victim
@appsb4537
@appsb4537 Ай бұрын
No more harassing students and faculty under the pretence of "anti-zionism"
@mgancarzjr
@mgancarzjr Ай бұрын
​@@appsb4537how much of it was harassment, and how much of it was students trash-talking each other?
@mgancarzjr
@mgancarzjr Ай бұрын
@@artandarchitecture6399 I better not argue with you. You'll think it's harassment.
@AlanBoris451
@AlanBoris451 Ай бұрын
@@appsb4537Israel is dragging us into a new war, do NOT be so hasty to defend them just yet
@andrewfisher8749
@andrewfisher8749 Ай бұрын
Liberal “logic” 😂
@jasonredpill7473
@jasonredpill7473 Ай бұрын
As A JEW, THIS IS A STEP FORWARD!! Thank you Stanford for supporting Israel
@KK-pm7ud
@KK-pm7ud Ай бұрын
They aren't choosing sides. Get over yourself.
@jonathanchang1574
@jonathanchang1574 Ай бұрын
I bet you're a secular Jew, because there's nothing further from the Jewish faith than unadulterated murder of innocent people.
@daryoushsameyah8329
@daryoushsameyah8329 Ай бұрын
And what does all of this antisemitism tell you?
@DeenaMilkers
@DeenaMilkers Ай бұрын
the you know whoish have a very strong influence over many powerful institutions
@Joe-nj8py
@Joe-nj8py Ай бұрын
You do not get to regulate free speech when you take Federal money and their money.
@bc8648
@bc8648 Ай бұрын
The adults of Stanford finally want to adult
@mikek3979
@mikek3979 Ай бұрын
Hope universities have learned a valuable lesson - protests are OK, tents on campus are not & targeting individual students because of their faith is never OK.
@AlanBoris451
@AlanBoris451 Ай бұрын
When did they do that exactly?? Conservatives/libertarians should the most against this surely, NOT cheering on these weird bans!!
@adrianafit4098
@adrianafit4098 Ай бұрын
Hire these kids after they graduate
@mohamedgoldstein5565
@mohamedgoldstein5565 Ай бұрын
Free Speech should not tread on the civil right of others.
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