Stanton 680 EL | The Greatest Phono Cartridge Ever?

[@tinicum54]

I had a Stanton 681EEE in the 70's. Excellent.

[@davidstanton3868]

I have a Technics direct drive turntable. Now it has a Grado cartridge. In the mid 80s I had a Stanton cartridge. The Stanton was the best cartridge I have ever owned. By the way, my last name is Stanton!

[@sentryfe74]

I picked up a Technics SL 1800Mk2 last month for $300. It came with the Stanton 681EEE-S Stereohedron cartridge, I am very impressed with this cartridge. It tracks very light .75 to 1.5 grams. It does require more volume from my receiver than my old Stanton turntable with the 500ee. I am concerned that replacement styluses are very hard to come by and very expensive.

[@EzeeLinux]

Expensive? Yes... They are not cheap, especially the really good ones. The stereohedrens were wonderful trackers. :)

[@ZeusTheTornado]

LP Gear has a Vivid Line (Shibata) stylus that's supposed to be close to the original, costs around 110-150$

[@TheAgeOfAnalog]

@@ZeusTheTornado is the Vivid line actually a Shibata, or more similar to AT's "micro line"?

[@ZeusTheTornado]

@@TheAgeOfAnalog From what I've read it basically has the dimensions of a shibata, but I do know they can't properly call it a shibata since it's patented. I'd do a bit of research about it, but still, I think it's the closest modern replacement to the original

[@stevengagnon4777]

​@@TheAgeOfAnalog the vivid line is like the micro line it is not a shibata. Neither is the Steriohedron the same as a Shibata. I think the LP Tunes hypereliptical is closer to the Steriohedron. The Steriohedron won't extend out to 50 kilohertz to play discreet quadrophonic like a Shibata. I am using the bonded hypereliptical now it was good enough so I bought a bunch more. Seeing a picture of the vivid line I would say it's similar to the hypereliptical and Steriohedron . My guess is they are close variants of the same basic design.

[@robertyoung1777]

Great as always! I think that you are right on about the sound characteristics of Nagaoka, Sure and Stanton cartridges. I own them all (MP110, xe97 and 881eee). I enjoy them all.

[@paulvinas8537]

Hi Joe, I used to be an obsessed Audiophile back in the seventies, to the point I was researching everything. Not to mention I was subscribed to the Audiophile magazine. I give up on it for many reasons, but now when I'm recording my LP collection to CD using a Tascam CD-RW900 mk II recorder and a Technics turntable with a Stanton Cartridge 680HP. Forgot to mention my newly acquired Mani 2 little preamp. Well, thinking that maybe I could improve my recordings by changing the Cartridge, found your video. Even though your video is long, could not stop listening to you, because it was like listening to myself. I don't know how old you are. I'm 73 and I'm happy to hear young people so involved in sound quality.

[@EzeeLinux]

Thanks. I'm over 520 so whether you think that's young or not I don't know. :)

[@paulvinas8537]

@@EzeeLinux Matusalem?

[@GreenmanWood]

The Stanton 981LZS is the greatest ever, especially when coupled with the Stanton pre-preamp.

[@acfinney1]

I really enjoyed your video. Apparently we're the same age. I have been using a Pickering U38 for 15 years.1961 model. It's a beautiful sounding cartridge in my opinion.

[@harveyellis6758]

Back in the day I understood that Stanton 881S was top of their line. I owned one.

[@xvdifug]

I have one right now!!

[@user-bc6ok1yh4s]

I have an 881S and a 681 eeeS, and while the 881S is smooth,clean, and polite... I prefer the dynamic, musical and realistic soundstage of the moving iron 681eeeS.

[@stevengagnon4777]

@@user-bc6ok1yh4s I like the moving iron 681 cartridge too and always come back to it.

[@simonheffernan1767]

I've learnt so much. I have a VM95SH and it's VERY CD like. I have a Lenco L78 with a custom carbon fibre arm, centre platter bearing, and copper matt. I think the turn table makes a big difference also.

[@coreysoren]

I have the XV-15. I love this cartridge; I have not found any cartridge that comes even close to it.

[@jackmercer4244]

WOW! Really good to know. I've been DJing since 1980, dropped out in 2005, then got into PC DJing in 2016. I recently broke out my Technics 1200 decks from storage and thought about buying the latest and greatest cartridges and styluses but I can't afford them. I have a pair of 680ELs as well as a pair of 680HPs. As a dance DJ, I like the HPs better. It sounds awesome with 12" remixes!

[@victorclare9376]

HI .I OWN 2 STANTON 680 EL. I BOUGHT THEM BACK IN THE EARLY 70'S. I HAVE THEM MOUNTED ON 2 TECHNICS SL 5100 TURNTABLES. WHEN I BOUGHT THEM I ALSO PURCHASE 4 REPALCEMENT HEADS STYLIST SO I WOULD HAVE BACKUP. I HAVE A LARGE COLLECTION OF RECORDS FROM THE 60'S AND 70'S AND 80'S. ABOUT 750 RECORDS. I OWN SHURE , EMPIRE. PICKERING, AND OTHERS . BUT MY STANTON 680EL IS STILL MY FAVORITE. THANK FOR THE GREAT VIDEO.

[@skyfrog64]

Correct! I still use it from time to time.

[@rand9994]

I bought a Pioneer PL-518X TT a few years ago that had a Stanton L737S, (the p mountversion of the 680), installed with an adapter. After reading about it, I didn't want to take a chance on the stereohedron being bad, and it didn't seem good for the tonearm I so changed it out and put in a box. I recently got Technics Quartz p mount deck in great shape but the stylus was sibilant so I pulled out the old Stanton until I get something new, and OMG it sounds incredible. Bass and treble are immaculate. It absolutely blows away every cart I've ever had on my Pioneer including Ortofon, Nagaoka, and an AT120E that I really love. I want to find a NOS D73E for it but they are getting hard to find.

[@audubon5425]

I recently unearthed an XV15-200E I bought 15 years ago and never mounted. I'm using it a lot the last few months. I also snapped up an original Pickering 1mil mono stylus last year, knowing I had an old X15 somewhere. Well, I never did find it, but found a gold Stanton 500 I don't even remember where it came from. That setup is great on my 45s from the 50s and 60s, especially the high mileage ones.

[@EzeeLinux]

Nothing handles hot 45's like these carts. Modern carts just get muddy or break up. I collect way more 45's than LP's so it's a big deal to me too. :)

[@audubon5425]

"The Handbook for Stanton and Pickering Phonograph Cartridges and Styli" by Richard Steinfeld

[@EzeeLinux]

Thanks for the info. The search begins... :)

[@audubon5425]

@@EzeeLinux I saw after I posted that he's still active on the Lenco Heaven forum.

[@user-bc6ok1yh4s]

I luckily picked up a Stanton 890 AL (essentially an 881S) and a NOS 681 EEE-S both with original OEM styli back in the mid nineties, and while they both sounded great, the 681EEE-S moving iron model walked all over the MM 890al/881 variant. The clarity and realism, soundstage, depth, drum and bongo whacks, horns comparison wasn't even close. I put the 890/881 in the drawer years ago. But you are absolutely correct, the Stanton MI variants are very special cartridges indeed.

[@stevengagnon4777]

Agreed....I always come back to 680/681 . My Technics SL-7 close"n"play linear tracking turntable is fitted with a Stanton L747S cartridge now and sounds the same as a 681 as it should .

[@onocoffee]

1988? I was Tuesday Morning DJ at WLCR in Baltimore - and I didn't even go to Loyola College!

[@Roscoeverdin5469]

Joe, I just watched your video on the PL-518 and read you got rid of it because of a problem with lifting the tone arm. I gave myself a forehead slap. All it took was screwdriver to bend the metal tab under the tonearm. I just did it on my 518. Nice channel BTW.

[@EzeeLinux]

That machine had other issues as well. It was in rough shape when I got it. :)

[@giovannibaietti2384]

In the early 70's my record store (classical music) only sold Thorens turntables and Stanton cartridges

[@NickP333]

Hi there, Joe. I’ve got a rather large collection of cartridges, and for my Stanton and Pickering carts, I’ve picked up what’s called VividLine styli for both the 500 and 600 series from either LP Tunes or LP Gear. Last time I checked, they’re also the North American distributors of JICO replacement styli as well. Hope that’s of some help, and good luck. 🔊😊🎶 Edit: The issue I’ve run into with vintage styli is that the suspension is often dried up, a problem I’m sure you’re likely familiar with.

[@EzeeLinux]

Yes, I've seen those styli advertised but they are big bucks. I got a new problem for ya.... How about the weld breaking at the top of the cart where the "wings" attache? That just happened to this one. :(

[@NickP333]

@@EzeeLinux The same thing happened to me with one of my 681EEE carts. I bought one of those acrylic VTA / azimuth gauges and some epoxy used for metal. I turned the cartridge upside down on top of the “wings” and made sure it was totally straight through the gauge. It worked out well, and I’m happy to report one of my favorite Stanton carts is back in commission.

[@EzeeLinux]

@@NickP333 :)

[@ubtrippin9980]

I have had good luck with LP Gear Vivid Line styluses. I have Stanton 881S with original D81 on Technics SL1210 mk2 and a 881S with Vivid Line line contact stylus on a Kenwood KP-1100, both decks side by side. After a few hours break in the Vivid Line sounds very close to original. Quite happy with it.

[@ubtrippin9980]

Also have a Pickering XVS 3000 with original D3000 stylus, sounds like 881S but a bit warmer. Also have a Stanton 681EE with original D6800 on Technics SL1200 (mk1) as a 3rd deck in my set up. Very nice sound, use if often. The 681EE has similar sound to the Pickering XV15/400 and XV15/750 that I occasionally use.

[@JurassicTrance]

Just picked up a pair of SL1210MK2s and one of them had a pretty clean looking 680EL cart installed. I'm not so sure I want to try and play any records with the stylus as it was a bit dirty and I'd rather start clean. I'm also not sure if it's an original stylus because there is no "Stanton" vertical lettering lettering on the left side of the white plastic. The other side does read D6800AL (been doing some research including watching this video, I'm very confused as to the difference between the D6800AL & the D6800EL). I was simply going to list it for sale, but after some research now I'm a bit curious to hang on to it and see how it sounds. I'm used to an AT440MLb for ripping/playback purposes, and I've picked up a few Shure M44Gs with original styli for DJ purposes which I've yet to try. Seems that today, replacement styli for many carts are hard to come by aside from perhaps JICO which are quite expensive. 9 months since this video, have you learned anything more about the cartridge/styli?

[@DJJUANG2000]

Great video. Thank you for posting. Do you have a recommendation for a stylus (AL) I am using it to DJ. I see them on eBay. Not sure if that’s a good source. Hope you can help. Thank you

[@gilwe]

I just got an old 680EE with an original styli in good condition. I must say it's a bit hard for me to dig whatever has been said here, as I find both the Shure V15 IV and AT30E (mc) I own sounding more musical and detailed. The 680EE is indeed very flat, but I'm not sure it's necessarily a good thing, while it does lack some details. I must be missing something?

[@martinconnolly3776]

Just a couple of observations regarding the D680s. The cartridge body is the same - just the stylus is different. The D680 has a very high inductance at 930mH. This gives the high output and shouldn't cause any problems with your pre-amp (or mixer), but check. One thing not shown in the booklet shown here is compliance. The AL stylus is 10, whereas the EL is 13.5. These are very low (a result of the strong cantilever). This means its important to keep the effective mass as high as possible. With a Technics SL1200 tonearm mass of 12g, you should use the additional 3g spacer to add to the D680s 5.5g. This will bring the resonant frequency just inside the acceptable range of 8-11 Hz. Anyway, I agree. My D680ALs sound stunning on my SL-1200MK2s

[@EzeeLinux]

I did not use tan extra weight but the Flaunce headstall is 10 grams by itself and thus far the sound has been nothing but stunning. The pre-amp in my Sony amp seems to like this cart, as well. :)

[@martinconnolly3776]

I have now received an EL from the USA. If you've wanted to own a 680EL and were worried about finding a decent one, here's my story. I found one for less than 40 dollars which looked very well used and covered in grime and corrosion. I expected to have to replace the stylus. But I soaked it in hot soapy water, picked off the dirt with a pin under a magnifying glass, then soaked it in descaling solution. It came out sparkling clean. Then rinsed it with deionized water, dried it and tried it. Guess what? Stunning! The balance and drive of the sound beats my ALs. So glad I took a gamble on it.

[@nicholasjames3721]

I own a Stanton 600 with an NOS 600ee stylus. I am not sure how this cartridge sound wise compares to the 680 EL, but to my ears, the 600 is an excellent sounding cartridge. Recently, I was comparing the Stanton 600 that was on BIC 960 against a Shure V15 IV which was on a Thorens TD 160. The Stanton had better smoothness right before it gets too bright on the top end, overall nice balance in the mid range and more clarity and detail in the lower end. The Shure had more mid range and bass fullness. Overall, I preferred the Stanton and BIC 960 combo which was a bit shocking. I do feel that this is a fair comparison as most people would view the BIC as an inferior TT to Thorens.

[@slistone1940]

Hi have a Stanton 680 EL with a vintage stylus and love it to death. Somebody told me the 881 is even better! Can I just switch out the 881 stylus? Is it worth the upgrade?

[@stevengagnon4777]

The 680/681 is moving iron cartridge and the 881 is moving magnet. Technically they aren't compatible. The moving iron won't work at all in the 881. The 881 will play in a 681 but the output will be much higher I think the 680 HP is done that way.

[@thehunterofdeath2180]

I still have one brand new Stanton EL brand new. Original I use to use the Stanton AL for DJ mix n scratch is all we have back in the mid 80s it was okay but not that good for scratching at that time it sounds pretty good but is all we had at the time 👍😎 I have the blue Stanton AL too for DJ

[@stevengagnon4777]

Im not sure why you had a low output with the 681 I've never had a problem no matter what turn table or preamp/amplifier/ receiver i was using.

[@TheAgeOfAnalog]

I have a 680EL which came with my SL1200mk2, which I purchased a pawn shop back around 2000 for just $35! I honestly didn’t know a whole lot about turntable maintenance or setup at the time, so when it didn’t sound good, I assumed it needed a new stylus, so I ordered a replacement from LPGear for something like $25. I thought it sounded ok, but never really knew what VTF to use, so I ended up just putting it away. Fast forward to a few years ago, when I got back into vinyl, and I pulled the original stylus out of the box and checked it under a digital microscope. OMG was that thing filthy! Globs of gunk stick to the cantilever and diamond. So, I cleaned it up, put it back on, set the VTF to 3g, and WOW. I’d say it’s probably the second best sounding cart of the dozen or so I know own. What stylus upgrade can you recommend to get the absolute best from this cart?

[@EzeeLinux]

To be honest, I don't know. I am finding the sound with the original D6800EL to be exquisite. It is as good or better than my AT540ML. I think I'm just going to search for NOS Stanton styli. :)

[@TheAgeOfAnalog]

@@EzeeLinux My current "reference" (LOL) cart/styli is an old AT130E that I fitted a VMN40ML stylus to and I think it offers a bit more detail and nuance, but the 680EL is indeed a very capable and neutral cart with the stock stylus. I seem to recall JICO made a Shibata for the 680, but I seem to recall it was about $300.

[@EzeeLinux]

@@TheAgeOfAnalog They are out there.... I'm not sure if they are worth it. though. :)

[@martinharming1460]

Bought two Technics 1710mk2 a few years ago, both came with 681El but the stylus are broken. Maybe I have to hunt down some replacement and try them out. Also came with a Shure DS-20 havent found much info on that.

[@slistone1940]

Is there a mono stylus I could use with the 680 EL body? Would I get true mono if I did that?

[@hanzo52]

I have an 680el I think. It came on a sl-1200 from 1986. I don't know for sure since the last letter is not visible, but it looks the most like an L. The stylus is in a black housing and has no text, the tip is diamond as I can see in my microscope. Anyone know how to identify the stanton cartridge and stylus for sure? It's mounted on a technics headshell. I have a multimeter so I can do measurements.

[@PeterCreed-g7s]

I used a Stanton 500EE which was lovely so smooth pc 😊

[@31LR176]

Still using my stanton 500mk2 from the year 1999 with the same stylus to this very day!

[@EzeeLinux]

You do realize that styli wear out? They have to be changed at least every 1000 hours of use or they start damaging records. That's why having a ready supply is so important.

[@31LR176]

@@EzeeLinux Many thanks for the info mr Collins,i only used it to backup about 600 12 inch records to digital so i assum its still ok ish!I found your channel because of linux but found you share the same passions as me,Linux,audio,and radio!best regards from Alex 31lr176 dj and amateur radio operator in Portugal,best 73s

[@henrikl1394]

Don't have Stanton but Pickering XV-15 625E but bought a 757S stylus(Stereoheadron) what a different. 626s is good but 757S is great and so funny to listen to.(Both NOS)...For more information about Moving Iron look up Sound Smith.

[@bertroost1675]

What is your impression of those Technics SP25 turntables?

[@EzeeLinux]

They were the industry standard turntable. They did sell one mounted in a plinth with an arm but I always thought the counter top mount was super cool. I worked at one station where the engineer had designed a roll around cabinet with a lid just for the turntable and it was only used for transcriptions and the occasional 45... I see them on eBay for crazy prices but I am wary because the electronics are quite old now. If you find one refurbished selling for under $2500 it's a bargain. :)

[@slistone1940]

Do you know if the 680EL is compatable with the AL styli? what other slyli would be compatable. I inherited at 1200MK2 that had the D6800EL on there. It sounds so so good. it must be original from 1986 so figure there can't be much more life on it. Looking for a good replacement. Know lot of people recommend JICO.

[@stevengagnon4777]

It appears in Stantons literature that anything 680/681/L737/L737/L747 (the L... are p-mount versions) are the same moving iron cartridge and any of the styli are interchangeable. This is one of the features that gives this cartridge great versatility.

[@slistone1940]

@@stevengagnon4777 awesome! Do you know ow anything about these slyli? Wondering if there’s one to seek out?

[@stevengagnon4777]

@@slistone1940 my Technics SL-7 close"n"play linear tracking turntable has a Stanton L747S cartridge installed on it now. It is the 681in a p-mount with a nude Steriohedron. I'm keeping that one for a reference as those are pretty pricey and used , fortunately the p-mount doesn't have a high demand and I git lucky and got it in fairly new condition. The stylus that I'm using daily is a replacement for the 680EES. It is an hypereliptical replacement stylus from Lp tunes and was $80 plus $9for shipping. I had a Stanton 680ee stylus that I was using and the Lp tunes bonded hypereliptical 680EES sounds better so I was due for a replacement. For my use it is good enough so I bought 5 more so I don't run out. The Stanton nude Steriohedron does sound best as they always did. I had a Stanton 680 EL II that I bought when Stanton stopped making the Steriohedron. Those do sound very nice. I think it's because it tracks heavy at 3.0 grams ( that was my ideal minimum) and the 0.4×0.7 elliptical had a good contact area with a slightly higher output. The 1200 mkIi is happy running at high tracking force too. So I will be looking for a good direct replacement eventually when I get my SL- 1200 mkII up and running. The Lp tunes was specked for 1.0 to 1.5 grams which is the range for the SL-7. I'm using the brush so I found an additional 0.5 grams is better. Lp tunes couldn't disclose the manufacturer for it but my guess is that it was made in Japan. Stanton got all their stylus tips from Japan in the past. I would try a Jico stylus but they are pricier and the nude mounted ones are more than double what I spent. The AL stylus you mentioned is a heavy tracking spherical it will work and DJs used them because they are better for back scratching. I'd stick with the Japanese made ones. My experience with the Swiss made ones wasn't good and they all had a magnet at the end of the cantilever instead of the iron piece that Stanton used for the 680/681 series. That increased the output collapsed the sound stage slightly and had a heavy bass. I listen to a wide range of music si the sound stage and flat response is important for me.

[@stevengagnon4777]

I do have experience with many of the different styli available ( previously available) . I did like the EL II when I couldn't get the nude Steriohedron for the 681. The 0.4×0.7 at 3.0 grams of tracking force is good. The AL is 0.7 spherical that is heavy tracking like the EL. My favorite was the Steriohedron for the 681. The Steriohedron is a line contact version the hugged the groove well. I'm currently using the Stanton L747S ( Basically a p-mount 681) cartridge on my Technics SL-7 it has a nude Steriohedron. It is my reference so it's not getting used daily. I have bonded hypereliptical ( the hypereliptical and vivid line should be close to the Steriohedron ) aftermarket from Lp tunes($80) that was sold as a replacement for the 680EES (bonded Steriohedron) . It comes close enough tracking at 2.0 grams to the Stanton Steriohedron tracking at 1.5 grams that I not having a great urge to use the Stanton original. The Lp tunes seems to be at 2.0 grams than it was at 1.5 grams . That is 0.5 grams more than listed on the box it came in. Going with my ears on this one. I will be giving this a try with my Technics SL-D2 with an S-shaped tone arm like the Sl-1200 . I suspect it will be at 2.0 grams too . I prefer a heavier tracking stylus with the S- tone arm anyway as the mass of the tonearm is more fitting with the highertrackingforce. I will likely try the Lp tunes replacement for the EL in the future. Anyway I was pleased enough with the bonded hypereliptical from Lp tunes that I ordered 5 more. I have a SL-1200 mkII that I need to repair fortunately its mechanical, unfortunately the bearing in the tone arm appears to be not available. I will need to be creative because I won't be putting a new tone arm in. I would stick to the aftermarket from Japan 🇯🇵 . My experience with the Swiss made ones hasn't been good.

[@cazaresfamily007]

I run my stanton 680el mkii at 2grams i love it

[@TheAgeOfAnalog]

I now own two of these. The OEM styli are worn, but not worn out. Is there a replacement stylus, similar in design to AT's "micro line" that you can recommend for this cart? I really don't want a Shibata, due to the cost and correspondingly short lifespan.

[@EzeeLinux]

Jico makes some esoteric shape replacements but they are not cheap.

[@TheAgeOfAnalog]

@@EzeeLinux is that what they call them?

[@EzeeLinux]

@@TheAgeOfAnalog VivdLine, MicroLine, Shiabata, Hyper Elliptical and Van den Hull are all examples of esoteric or exotic styli. Basically, anything more sexy than a .3 x .7 elliptical... :)

[@SisterFromAnotherPlanet]

What is the difference between the 680 EL and the 680 V3. MP4? I've searched, but can't find anything. Great video, thank you.

[@EzeeLinux]

The V is a later version. Styli are compatible, though. The 680 body style ran for a very long time. :)

[@SisterFromAnotherPlanet]

@@EzeeLinux Thank you! So the stylus is the same? I found a brand new sealed clear calzone box set with 2 cartridges and stylii for $145. (I bought the 680 EL box set back in the 90's).

[@jedi-mic]

You'd probably like the goldring carts, sounds like what you're saying! I love their carts, try the E3 that's a good balance cart, and for the price under $100 I think gives a great sound. you might want to try the 2200 probably more than double the price, I've got the 2300 and that's great sounding cart and a E3 and the 1042 is awesome sounding. their carts prefer a high to medium mass arm's.

[@EzeeLinux]

I have a video up about the E3. :)

[@budsmoker4201120]

I happen to love the 2m blue😂. ImO best bang for buck.

[@darthwarren4599]

If u need the the mounting hardware go to guitar center and buy the Stanton sh4 headshell and u get the black mounts

[@mikebates8420]

Contemporaneous is a word. I think in your video, "Contemporary" would have been proper.

[@MadMomma-kj9ks]

It might be a good pick up, but the junk replacement needles make them obsolete. Stanton dosent make needles anymore....

[@VicariousAdventurer]

Hmm, even can find 500 II replacements even in 2024 - Stanton D50E MkII Elliptical Stylus - but you might want to check out the ADC XLM mkIi+ ("omni-pivot improved ") stuff. Also a very flat curve, but high compliance (needing a light tonearm). Am literally planning to get one of these over one of 680EL, both listed about $80.

[@martinda7446]

Ha ha THAT IS A NO!!!!!!

[@exenx2995]

The 680EL only goes to 18kHz and you call this the greatest phono cartridge ever????This is a DJ cartridge designed for FM radio stations because they have a restricted 18kHz limited range. If you like your LP's to sound like your cassette deck then this is the cartridge for you. The cheapest Audio Technicas can go to 20Hz - 20Khz. These DJ Stantons sound like garbage when used on audiophile equipment, but they were not meant for home use they were designed for DJs for a reason because they are limited in the 20-20,000Hz ranges. I know they are ignorance that claim it doesn't matter because he can't hear 20Khz. It's the blending of that 20Khz throughout the entire audio spectrum that makes the difference this is why $10,000 carts can produce up to 50-60Khz because it's this overall sound that gives musics it's dynamics. Stop trying to relive your younger years and get a good cartridge and you my find yourself surprised at how terrible that Stanton really is ..

[@seansweeney3532]

I've been an audiophile and tech for years, and there is nothing to what you're saying on the bass side of things. Harmonics in US range shouldn't affect the ones in the audible range ANY more than when they were recorded. You're saying that a audio is different without these frequencies, yet there are no current records pressed with that high or low FR. i almost think that you are confusing. Frequency response of vinyl to the sampling rate of digital... because lower sampling rates would most certainly effect and phase certain high frequency characteristics, even causing some false harmonic content.. .But once again, they wouldn't even touch the lows.

[@bertroost1675]

You just drove up ebay bidding right now

[@EzeeLinux]

Probably.... I hate that too. :(