Star Citizen 3.24.3 - 10 Minutes More or Less Ship Review - AEGIS REDEEMER

[@edgerunnerwhitelake]

I'd do ungodly things to own one of these. It's the literal ONE combat style ship I want in the whole game.

[@EvenLease44]

It's seriously an amazing looking ship.

[@PH03NIX96]

It's dookie tho. Maybe one day CIG will make multicrew decent.

[@Lancelotopus]

Just got nerfed and handles like a sub capital. Definitely not recommended.

[@GorillaZillas]

It's also useless in combat, like all multicrew ships are. It's a geometry issue as avenger one says.

[@mebrian5728]

I’d love to own a Perseus. Best looking ship in the game IMHO.

[@uss_04]

Man I am BIG SAD about the Nerfs. It was always my 2 man useable but open to a 3rd or 4th member. It was my absolute go to in Xenothreat. Even if not full, it had the shields to stick it out to let fighters do their damage. The best part is with its shields, it was our go to 'recovery ship'. If someone got soft killed, I could bring in the Deemer, do a quick combat pickup, hope the shields hold, and almost always there was a gun for them to use. Top, Bottom even remote from and rear. More than once we had to slug it out with a Hammerhead, 2 turrets down, giving it a broadside with rear remote and a single turret on top to finish it off. (Even got the recordings). If someone in the group was dying of thirst or food, well, the fridge was right downstairs. (and the toilet as well :D ) Fact is, it always had room for another. Even outside of Xeno, it was a hoot to do PvP/PvE in. We stumbled upon a ship with 4 2SCU Egg crates outside of Grim, and surprisingly made it all fit in that lower space. 2 SCU per a crew member. Through a bit of pVp and shenanigans, we managed to sell at Brios. other ships might have been able to do it better, especially the Corsair, but wouldn't have been such an insane experience without the shields and the limited cargo and the compact size of the Redeemer. Maybe there's room for it to be a zippy gunship, but I'm going to miss the tankiness and DPS potential of it, it might not be the biggest ship in a formation, but it was normally the core of a small group. Thanks for the vids, always love the effort you put in these shorts.

[@zmortis111]

The Aegis Redeemer was my second ship after my package MISC Freelancer. I bought the LTI version in November 2014, and will be keeping it. As a historical note it is the only externally developed ship in the original SC as it was designed and built as part of a fan development contest with multiple ship designs proposed by external small development teams. The SC community voted each week on which ship to advance, and it was the eventual "fan favorite" voted to win the contest. It was well known at the time that several of the internal people at Cloud Imperium were not happy with the original design including Chris Roberts himself preferring other less "fantastic" and "anime inspired" designs. This the Redeemer has seen numerous redesigns and reworks since it was initially delivered in the hanger module prior to the persistent universe being made playable.

[@EvenLease44]

They should do more fan contests on future ships! Would be cool to see.

[@dirk2058]

what was the price for the redeemer when you bought it??? was thinking of maybe letting mine go and rather go for a heavy fighter… I like the f8 but stil deciding on that

[@zmortis111]

@@dirk2058 my billing statement shows it was $250 USD in the original concept sale.

[@grimlock929]

My friend gifted me this ship when I first started playing back when it was neat hangar flair. Love her so much

[@pandoraeeris7860]

The reduction in gun size + increase in mobility actually means they'll be better at staying on target. Better against fighters instead of medium/large ships. As far as shields/armor goes, that will depend on final balance, upgrades, physicalized armor, etc.

[@rybuds47]

Its been thoroughly tested. You and your friends are flying victims in this ship if you meet other players. It sucks The corsair can kill it almost every time and the corsair is a flying victim too. All these lame changes and muticrew still looses to single fighters.

[@coyote-1312]

It's a great change IMO. Its balance before was really stupid, it filled the role of a much bigger ship while being way too small. It could easily kill hammerheads with just 3 players. It should be a more zippy gunship, and that's a much more natural role for this ship.

[@Damaboo1]

I like the quick reviews of ships+, good job. You may want to consider adding gun-rack specs since they change and don't fit everything available. 🥇

[@EvenLease44]

Thank you!!! I’ll look into that and make sure to include any odd ball weapon racks!

[@quinoulelong]

I like the way you make your videos, the speed, the views, etc. and I really love your streams ! It’s relaxing and interesting for a newbie like me. For ship review if I may, it would be amazing if the pilot seat and the pilot board could be reviewed (or at least if you can show it). Personally I always feel frustrated when I buy a nice ship but don’t really like the cockpit. Well done, I hope you’ll keep doing these reviews !

[@EvenLease44]

Hey thank you! I really appreciate the comment! I will absolutely show more of the cockpit and dash in future videos.

[@neonweaver8624]

I believe that it has been put in line with the other Aegis ships. Right now it's slightly more expensive than the Vanguard Harbinger, with triple the shields, more and bigger turrets and twice the hull HP. It also has the same shields and more firepower than the Retaliator, the other modular gunship from aegis (that is bigger and slower and has more HP). So imo, the Redeemer still needs some adjustments, but it should be balanced between its own ecosystem of dedicated combat ships with millitary components. I see a lot of players frustrated because they're too focused trying to compare it with the Constellations or the Corsairs, and imo, they're totally different ships that compete on their own ecosystem. Anyway, the Redeemer was my first love (when it was the "agile mercenary gunship/dropship with vectorlock thrusters") and still is my favourite ship in the game.

[@Hylanvahr]

Agree with all of this, but the habs and the jumpseats need to swap places.

[@JohnDoe-wd8rs]

Nah, gimme my shields and size 5’s back, if I wanted a heavy fighter I would’ve bought one. Anyone giving this game money at this point are fools. I was going to upgrade my Zeus to an A2 but I’m certain that shit will get merged in a year of so. I’m just getting out of Scam citizen.

[@Logical-Titan]

If they are downsizing the potential of the ship, then they need to downsize the price.

[@Duckieeeeeeeeeeee]

That would probably just kick current owners while they're down by making it worth less to melt

[@MsToshi1990]

if anything they increase it XD that shield and HP nerf is unacceptable.

[@JohnDoe-wd8rs]

@@MsToshi1990yea, I canceled all plans to upgrade anymore. I won’t give these scammers another dime.

[@CellDE]

will not happen

[@demonic75]

I clicked so fast because of the redeemer lol (favorite ship so far)

[@EvenLease44]

It's a beautiful ship going through a lot right now. :\

[@demonic75]

​@@EvenLease44I do think the changes are super drastic. Personally I think the redeemer should be a zippy ship for its size at 1.0, so if they update the shields and weapon balancing it'll be great!

[@kiteklat3846]

Nerf constellations then. My full crewed redeemer lost Vs an Andromeda albeit fight was taken with suprise advantage. And this ship costs near half the price.

[@demonic75]

@kiteklat3846 this is a really great point! The redeemer seems bad because we have to compare it to ships that are undeniably better, but if the constellations were also nerfed / reworked it would be way better balanced.

[@C01xJokerDFrei]

I think the most frustrating part about the nerfs to the Redeemer is also the fact that the "buffs" don't feel in any way equal to what was taken. Leaving us feeling disappointed and annoyed, with their version of a compromise feeling lackluster to say the least. No one wants to have to go and buy 6 individual replacement shield gens to raise the specs aftermarket, that's just tedious. If they wanted to change anything at all it should have been swapping the jumpseats and hab sections.

[@JohnDoe-wd8rs]

Exactly, they literally robbed us.

[@Seeras]

The reduction in gun size is really sad, it lost a lot of its brrrrt factor with this but i actually don't mind the nerf of its tank ability. It was absurdly resistant in my opinion and i guess with the implementation of armor it would have become ever stronger. Let’s wait, drink some tea and see what the next few months bring for our beloved space Hind. Plus, it's still a damn sexy ship from the outside and the inside.😁

[@EvenLease44]

Agreed! She is a total beauty! It’ll be interesting to see how she plays out with engineering/armor.

[@AccidentalFriendlyFire]

Being a lover of tanky ships, I actually think in many ways this is a better choice for me than it used to be. It's a VHF, though it needs three people to reach optimum performance.

[@CB-io8oi]

The nerf is understandable when you see its size compared to a Hammerhead, and yet it was closely comparable in combat. What's not cool is taking peoples money and then doing such drastic changes. Its always the money point related to "balancing" that makes CiG look like they treat the community so poorly.

[@DavidOlver]

yep

[@CptFugu]

The Hammerhead is not really a good reference here. It is a ship that is due a vast shield and HP refactor. The correct reference are the other medium multicrew ships, which now vastly outgun the so-called Gunship, while sporting twice the shields, a fraction of the crew, and a price tag that is about $100.00 lower.

[@CB-io8oi]

@CptFugu i guess the only real reference point is buy everything in game.

[@CptFugu]

@@CB-io8oi That would be sane advice. Too late for me though... But it is not an ironclad rule. There are some ships that you can bet will be always good performers. Particularly industry ships. If you want to, and have the extra money, it may be worth your time to invest there and getting them some life insurance. Particularly ships that you will use often and will be at risk. But I only recommend you do so for at least a tier 3 ship. It is not worth it for little ships that will be easy to replace.

[@Zethez]

Thanks for continuing this series.

[@onathan2606]

Always enjoy watching your reviews. Thank you for the great content.

[@EvenLease44]

@@onathan2606 thank you so much!

[@Randaddy25]

I have this ship as a loaner for the Paladin. Love this ship!

[@grahamgerling3033]

people forget that the spot it was just nerfed from came after years of multiple buffs too. the initial gun load out it had at launch was waaay worse than its current setup

[@pxkqd]

I have Redeemer as one of my 4 ships right now. I'm not playing till both SC versions and my PC improve a bit. But it's good to be up to date with how the ship is doing! I wish the stairs and living area wasn't in between the dropship seats, seems like such a design flaw.

[@lanovyr2497]

yeah, why would your spec ops team want to take a ladder and walk past ppls beds while deploying in a combat zone....

[@DeathEagle109]

Love your reviews! Very detailed and entertaining. Keep it up!!

[@EvenLease44]

Thank you!!!

[@Mechwarrior3025]

Another great review! Yes, the good Redeemer. Let's admit it, S5 guns and S3 shields are really daring for such a “small” ship of 51m length. If you take the Vanguard as a comparison, it only has 2xS2 shields, so even after the nerf with 6xS2 you're still very well off. I see the change from AD5B to AD4B as quite positive, first of all the turret weapons are now much more precise and visually the S4 guns no longer stick out unnaturally far. When landing, I often damaged the lower gun at the beginning because the tubes protruded so far. Now it is much more agile. It flies solo like a super-heavy fighter and I will definitely keep it. Inside it is well built and really has enough fuel for long flights. I think the 2 SCU Cargo are for ammo boxes for the turrets/side arms. Practical in any case.

[@JohnDoe-wd8rs]

You’re probably one of 5 redeemer owners cool with being robbed.

[@Mechwarrior3025]

@@JohnDoe-wd8rs No i am one of the 12 year veterans who understood that we are playing an alpha version and that things can change. Also look at the size comparison a redeemer has the size of an andromeda (10m less long), had the shields of a hammerhead which is quite unrealistic. nab might have left her an s3 shield, they went for 6xs2. almost comes close. the cannons are more accurate and s4 instead of s5. which is not the end of the world now if your gunners are good.

[@xentials]

I enjoyed it while it lasted but the old redeemer loadout was always way to good for it's size. Didn't it have twice the shields of a hammerhead? I like the gainesd agility although I'm not quite over the reduction of firepower and shield HP. I think with the nerf the price of the ship should be lowered (which is totally unrealistic I know) but I'll keep it as I dig the design

[@Mechwarrior3025]

@@xentials Yes the price of 330 dollars seems way too high, probably since the paladin is only 300 dollars. 250 dollars would be reasonable for the redeemers today. but there are two reasons why they won't do that. firstly, the players would resent a loss of value of 80 dollars and secondly, it's purely financial. more money is always less possible. I have now traded it in for the paladin (melted), ironically you get a redeemer as a loaner of the paladin. so I still have a whole year of it. The turrets have become much more precise.

[@KaybeCA]

This ship has always been a nightmare for CIG to balance. It's previous firepower and defenses for a ship this small (yes, small) meant that CIG felt forced to give it the same kind of agility as a Caterpillar, which was absurd. Now, it has the same kind of agility as a Vanguard Harbinger, while still being much tougher and having noticeably more firepower than that ship. Did they go too far with the nerfs? Possibly. But I am much more excited now since I'd rather have a compact gunboat fly like a compact gunboat instead of flying like cargo hauler three or four times its size.

[@nicobleiler]

I had more fun with it as cargo hauler, since most damage came from turrets my only focus was trying to give the best angles to my guys. Now I dont even like it a bit, took it out earlier and that will be it for a while. In standard loaout it took forever to kill a 400i and ate so much ammo

[@Mace1000S]

It’s a very cool ship. Another good review.

[@EvenLease44]

Thank you!! Its a nice looking ship for sure!

[@Tacticalpanda757]

we should be able to lock turrents in a forward position

[@captainmurphy2328]

I think the nerf was also to make it more modular, this is supposed to have an exploration module and bounty hunter module, this beast needs the speed.

[@jch1386]

If its turning into a glorified Vanguard, maybe make the pilot guns all s4 as well IMO. 8x s4 (If all main guns focus on a target) is nothing to scoff at, melts fighters and medium craft, and can eventually wear down on larger ships. I also still believe it should have EITHER dropship or living quarters, or swap their positions at the least, since the dropseats being a hassle to exit the craft from literally defeats the purpose of them. I'd rather have the living quarters and more storage, honestly.

[@xentials]

The old redeemer before it's rework hat the living quarters on the top in the back where components are now located. The bottom level had the four jump seats, weapon rack and a bottom docking port alongside the access for the lower turret in the front

[@Invictus_Praetorian]

For goodness sake, why is the crew area on the bottom and the jump seats and weapon storage on top??? Why did that make sense to them???

[@EvenLease44]

No clue! Seems we all think the same on their positioning so I’m surprised they didn’t

[@Invictus_Praetorian]

@EvenLease44 I wonder if there's a thread on spectrum pushing them to swap the floors lol

[@trullin9326]

Thank you my friend! Looked out for this one :-D

[@EvenLease44]

This one was fun to do!

[@tje.o.a5477]

I am so glad I can actually experience the game now, it runs great!

[@EvenLease44]

Live feels great right now. Let’s hope that stays that way.

[@tje.o.a5477]

@EvenLease44 Oh yeah, I've barely had any response issues

[@jasonm2477]

i really like the new redeemer, the weapon nerf was worth the handling upgrade

[@draakdeon]

realy love the content! just hate it that everyone is talking about the nerfs of the redeemer and corsair, but not of the 400i, it realy isn't worth it anymore :(

[@EvenLease44]

Thank you so much and thanks for bringing the 400i to my attention, I’ll take a look at her again soon!

[@draakdeon]

@EvenLease44 np, the 400i has been realy nerfed in speed and components, due to mm it has lost its top speed and manouvrebility

[@kira68200]

honestly the nerf is understandable, it was as powerful as the Hammerhead before, which is ridiculous still a powerful ship for its size category, just not godlike anymore also the beds should be on the second level and the jumseats on the first, don't make any sense with their actual disposition

[@reyconsolaV]

For me is one of the most stylish ship in the game

[@StellarSpacey]

It’s a beautiful ship, I love the design. I just don’t currently have enough people to play with to actually be able to man it. Maybe once we get more balance changes I’ll pick it up again

[@UBIQUITAR]

This ship sits 99% maneuvering with a Zeus so its has been greatly given a hand to serve the power it still has

[@David-82]

This one of those ships where I almost pulled the trigger when it was best in show but I decided to hold off as I had no immediate need for it cool though I will definitely buy it in game

[@Alex_A7]

Although I love my Warden, this seems like a nice future upgrade.

[@DigiBentoBox]

Just give it a size 3 shield. It'll perfectly balance everything out. Tanky enough to act like a Connie, but more manueverable, and less firepower unless fully manned.

[@Trampus10-4]

It’s a lot bigger than I expected!

[@len9912]

As a noob at SC, my opinion is given what you described overall, I think a 7 was too high.

[@UBIQUITAR]

Remember hull is the frame not the armor.....and shields will work better so the 6 S2 might be OP someday plus you can swap shields hot swap. 2 s3 would be harder to hot swap.

[@delc82]

I just got one and I love it!

[@connleth_208]

I have always liked this ship. The changes don't bother me because balancing is still on going I will probably pick one up in-game when hireable npc's and blades get added. Overall, I really like this ship!

[@EvenLease44]

It’s a beautiful looking ship!

[@MidKnight2142]

This USED to be my go to ship for combat, especially with friends. We basically used it as a mini Perseus. I think that nerf was totally uncalled for, and I have a sinking suspicion that it was done to make the Starlancer TAC seem more appealing...since it now has 2x Dual Size 5 manned turrets, and roughly similar sized shielding to what the Redeemer USED to have. Now, I think its just a slightly larger Vanguard Heavy Fighter. I REALLY hope the undo this nerf...but I know they won't. Back before I melted mine (yes I tried it after the nerf to see if it was as bad as the nerf sounded...it was worse than I thought, IMO.) I changed the wing size 4s to gimbled size 3s laser repeaters, along with the nose turrets to size 3 laser repeaters as well, to make them equal. The size 5 turret weapons were swapped for lasers as well, but I left it up to my friends what kind of laser weapon they wanted on their turret. This ship was so good, almost as a daily driver even, it saddens me they did this. Though I am still looking forward to the Starlancer series, wish we didn't have to wait for the TAC, but at least we get the MAX.

[@EvenLease44]

Prior to the hp/shield hits this ship was tons of fun. Now I feel nervous getting to deep into a battle. I’m also excited for the Starlancer’s! I’m thinking the tac will come to use during Invictus.

[@MidKnight2142]

@@EvenLease44 Agreed with the first, hope so with the second lol. I hope they don't decide to sit on it for a while. Though I will probably be plenty busy with trying out my MAX and Polaris till then anyways. I melted my Redeemer and another ship, forget which, for an M2. Planning on upgrading the M2 during IAE, probably for an Odyssey or something else, depending what is shown off.

[@Drysso]

I'm in the same situation, daily driver turned into not even flying. Buddies would rather a hammerhead turret at this point. Twice the firepower and the pilot get a ton of missiles. Plus a ground vehicle. Soon will be manning the Polaris.

[@JohnDoe-wd8rs]

I was wondering what they were trying to sell us, they always nerf to try to force new money. Scammers and thieves

[@codydagrizz]

Amazing video as always man! Do you have a discord for your community??

[@Squirrelking187]

Not sure how I feel about what they did to the deemer but only time will tell how it settles. But your review was really nice!

[@EvenLease44]

We will see, and Thank you!

[@smg1707]

I’ll be hanging on to this one but my Redeemer is on the chopping block at this IAE.

[@rodrigogodoi4250]

Size 4 on back turret, 1 size 3 shield, escape pods/drop seats on bottom floor, living area on top. 4 beds, 2 on top, 2 on bottom floor. Redeemer fixed.

[@DaGhostToast]

Would have liked to see the cockpit and MFD layout

[@jimc7022]

I hope it will be slightly UN-nerfed. It seems like they nerfed it to encourage sales of the Starlancer TAC that got the Deemer’s 2 S5 turrets and 2 S3 shields. I think once the TAC has its sales rush they’ll “balance” the Deemer again.

[@durtyred86]

I still have it. Not sure if I'll keep it though. It'll have to be an upgrade because it's a total loss to melt. $225 is what I spent on it, so I'm considering my options this coming IAE. I'll add this, the Redeemer is now an anti-fighter platform. Fighting anything larger will expose the nerfs harshly.

[@stefmullerphotography927]

lookd awsome! ❤️

[@EvenLease44]

It really does!

[@USIGNLOOFID]

Its still a cool looking ship. I think the agility increase was needed. I think the shield nerf makes sense, but the ship was sold with a certain spec. I don’t like the idea of them doing this, get your ships right before you sell CIG.

[@EvenLease44]

The healthpool nerf before having armor in is tough too!

[@USIGNLOOFID]

@@EvenLease44 Very true.

[@solanoda1]

Definitely a ship I would try to buy in game

[@EvenLease44]

Absolutely. In games price is soooo high.

[@ahedgpe3618]

Seems like it's more of a heavy fighter/heavy fighter support ship now

[@alvaraxdhazur5255]

redeemer is a ship i love. he is so cool!

[@november2097]

Idk if this is an unpopular opinion but I miss the airlock/hole door in the bottom of the ship

[@nabihlakkis562]

This is one of my all time favorite ships, unfortunately, I have never owned it.

[@u2b891]

Wouldn’t it make more sense to have the beds on the second floor and the drop zone where the sits are on the bottom? The interior layout just doesn’t make sense.

[@Mercurial_Me]

The ship used to be an OP weapons platform that was WAY too small for the heat it packed. Now it's a VERY strong heavy fighter. It's more of a role adjustment than a nerf, and I'm actually more interested in it now more than ever.

[@cptmiche]

It's not supposed to be a heavy fighter. It's a gun ship. It needs a larger crew, it's larger, and a lot more expensive than most other heavy fighters. I'm convinced now it's a bait and switch tactic to convince players to buy other ships, now that everyone bought redeemers because they were so good.

[@russellburns205]

​@cptmiche yeah it's an alternative to the Andromeda and traded it's cargo for another shield

[@iUseSporks]

I just find the placement of the crew quarters and the jump seats odd they should be reversed I still use mine and find it more enjoyable to fly with the buffed mobility and I think it’s significantly better then it used to be for bounties but my friends who play as my gunners are definitely very upset not being nearly as effective.

[@Jay-xv1jd]

They rly should have put 2 quad size 4's would fit the role of the ship better.

[@richardlowery6399]

My favorite ship model just wish there was more use for it :(

[@ParanoidCarrot]

the Redeemer ballistic cannons for the pilot are in a wierd place right now, i quite sure they are bugged or other some other foolery going on . i tried to use the said cannons but they do no damage to any target

[@EvenLease44]

Yeah I noticed they tend to do nothing a lot... will probably swap them out!

[@1gkn1ght]

I'm going to be getting rid of mine. Can't remember in the past year when I've taken it out, with the nerf it got, and with engineering eventually coming in, the ship isn't where it was when I got it and could fully man it.

[@nightwhale4014]

For me the change are welcome. With more maneuverability turret can stay on target much longer including the pilote. At the end you will do more DPS that when it was at size 5. With the armour coming up, the lost of shield will be fill. This ship coming back o what the 4 horses of the apocalypse created. It's not a big potato anymore and it's fun to fly

[@CMDR_MURR]

Had a guy use this to take me out while on the ground in the turret 😂. Have to say the shields are great (and I'm a terrible pilot)

[@EvenLease44]

Surface to air redeemer! Ah!

[@thedudeguy1]

wasup dude recently started whatcing your vids and i like it i got some ship in game that u might like

[@EvenLease44]

Thank you! What ships?

[@thedudeguy1]

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[@thedudeguy1]

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[@thedudeguy1]

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[@thedudeguy1]

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[@jaggedzace]

Hopes of redeemed with ai blades and armour materials. However got to agree the layout is a bit odd. The animated piston engine was very cool. It was alive. Shame. Ty 👍

[@aclock2]

Ah, the typical disgusting business tactic of making a ship super powerful when release to attract buyers, then nerf it to shit later when newer ships come out.

[@russwhitfield5259]

still have her , shes got quite the roller coaster of a performance . Annoyinglt she was ok but ONLY when manned , now? not tried her in ages and the perseus will make her redundant

[@Royaltea_Citizen]

It’s a very cool ship, hard to find friends that want it to man the turrets😂

[@EvenLease44]

Yeah! They push multi-crew but we all just want to fly. 😅

[@ricky6608]

Love my hair dryer

[@themarveluniverseonline]

The Freelancer MIS is considered a "Gunship", so YMMV

[@EvenLease44]

Their classifications are weird sometimes, feel like the MIS is a missile boat nothing more.

[@aznxgundam978]

I think the shield nerfs were necessary, and the maneuverability change was great! But in addition to the weapon size nerf, the capacity decrease was also a really mean choice.... I still cant understand the ship layout though, the crew quarters and the module room+jump seats should be switched. It makes no sense. It is genuinely one of my favorite ships, and they hurt it too much to the point I havent flown it too much. And if they keep the S4 turret weapons they should at least make the turrets smaller too. Its so ugly with the small guns on those massive turrets.

[@EvenLease44]

What do you think of the health pool nerf as well? I totally agree about swapping the living area with the jump seat area. Would make more sense!

[@aznxgundam978]

@EvenLease44 I think the health pool hit is bad too. I think it being an AEGIS *military* ship it should be tough, even if the shields aren't super good. At the very least, concentrate HP around the thruster nacelles; the ship is far too vulnerable with the HP nerf and the possibility of being unflyable if that gets broken.

[@Tihamatt]

redeemer coming with a fully stocked fridge but the zues doesnt, RUDE

[@EvenLease44]

Seriously! What is THAT about. Smh.

[@tethan]

Such a cool ship, if only i had friends lol

[@like-wh6yf]

I brought the Paladin gun ship and the nefs to the redeemer are to compensate for this ship the redeemer is a lonar for the paladin

[@QuotidianStupidity]

"As a gunship you would expect the ship to take quite the beating" Based on what? Gun ships are just planes with guns that fire out the sides

[@EvenLease44]

I’d say in todays world something like an AC130 would try to keep a good distance while providing support, but as a space gunship meant to have very thick skin to go against not only ground forces but mostly other starships it loses some of its ability to be a CAS ship against other ships for to long a duration. But I see your point when thinking about the style of ship in general.

[@QuotidianStupidity]

@ don’t get me wrong, I had to Google how they are used in current combat. But wouldn’t s4’s be sufficient to proper ground troops from a distance? What is the range for a ground based player firing back? (Assuming not in a vehicle?)

[@cyranobuckminster1970]

I'd have to really trust somebody to sign on as a crew member on a gunboat with only 28K shields.

[@EvenLease44]

Yeah they better be on target at all times!

[@CosmicTurtle13]

I love the design of the redeemer but I cant convince my buddies to get in one after the nerfs so I melted it. 😞

[@DISCO_o7]

I'm sorry to say it just got hit with another nerf. Now it only has 2 size 2 shields with a front/back set up. It's going to have to maneuver so fast the gunners won't be able to stay on target. so sad.

[@EvenLease44]

It’s still showing 6 size 2 shields front back for me on everything I see.

[@DISCO_o7]

@@EvenLease44 I think it's in the PTU still (can't remember). saw a couple of other post about it. I'll have to go back and double check now. sorry, should have clarified.

[@EvenLease44]

@DISCO_o7 no worries, my stats are directly from PTU .3 stats, I’ll have to also check but don’t think they would drop it to 5k shields

[@JaleTechAndGaming]

Playing WoW for decades, I know the pain of the nerf and rework.

[@PRIMEVAL543]

I can already see the Polarsis “10 minute more or less“ video being 30-40 minutes (0_o“)

[@EvenLease44]

Yeah…. *one hour laterrrr*

[@duvels]

would love to find out how many blades we can use in this ship, also if the modular lower deck is still a thing

[@Tekitremble]

Until they add armor to the game, a lot of these changes to the Redeemer & like those to the corsair, it makes me think that im better off with my buddy in a Vanguard Harbinger.

[@ParanoidCarrot]

i really much prefer the prowler over the redeemer, tho im a alien fan :D but anyway, im really sad about the galaxie bump, buttt im looking forward to new alien consept or maybe the intrepid we will see.

[@EvenLease44]

What do you think of the Prowlers price point for what the ship is? It’s a ship I haven’t looked at yet - but plan on.

[@ParanoidCarrot]

@@EvenLease44 it is 19mil in game currently and like 400 dollars and waayy too steep price for what the ship can do. but in a way it gived me the blackhawk transport helicopter vibes alen space ship versio but still bit too narrow usefullness,

[@Rob43955]

It’s so sad what they’ve done to it was a lovely ship. A large multicrew glass cannon that needs to be in the thick of battle - surely they know it doesn’t make sense.

[@EvenLease44]

Yeah.. this ship just screams heavily armored when looking at it, not sure how the future looks for it!

[@DavidOlver]

the rest of the next great starship should be in the game

[@budthecyborg4575]

The interior needs to be reworked entirely back to reflecting the design intent of the concept ship We need jump seats below and the kitchen and beds behind the cockpit, the current layout is nonsense. Jump seats behind the cockpit are absolutely useless, the main ramp is for combat not for bathroom access.

[@budthecyborg4575]

Oh and get rid of the side turrets and bring the two main turrets back to Size 5.

[@LobusFoE]

Redeemer and the Corsair are melt only right now

[@cptmiche]

I'm really upset at how *deeply* nerfed this ship is. I'd even call this a bait and switch at how insultingly deep these nerfs are. It's not even good anymore. For a 3 man ship it's trash now. They could have *at least* upgraded the missiles to S3, or upgrade the pilots guns to s4.

[@EvenLease44]

I think this ship is a long way from done. We will see what happens over the course of a year and with engineering.

[@UBIQUITAR]

Let's get real gunship are not meant to engage corvettes...... this is my style

[@YaBoi-vj5tl]

That turret view kinda sucks. They need to give it a netter view.

[@paulyskidda387]

They need to make it a little faster

[@wrextheblind3787]

I freaking loved the redeemer! Was my daily driver until what they did to it these past patches

[@danyhocine]

12 minutes ago? Rookie numbers but I'm getting faster.

[@EvenLease44]

Getting fast!!

[@danyhocine]

@@EvenLease44 🏎🏎

[@VortexStolenName]

Its the only ship in the game where I look at the landing gear and go, "who the fuck okay'd this?"

[@ulfhampel9160]

I never liked the design of this ship. In my eyes the other ships in the competition were more appealing to me. Sadly they never made their way into the game.

[@EvenLease44]

I need to go back and look at the others, been a long time!