Star Citizen: Does Ram Speed Really Matter? DDR4 Edition

[@greg8909]

If you are using the best CPU and the best GPU of intel and nvidia it's obvious that any difference in ram will be more noticable because you are ram bottlenecked. Someone with an i7 7700K and a gtx 1070 won't have the same results and ram frequencies will not be so important because the system will be CPU or GPU limited. So before investing in good ram sticks guys, buy a good cpu for all of your computer tasks and a good gpu for all your graphical tasks (games), after you are well equiped in gpu and cpu you can start thinking about memory frequencies and timings. But thanks for you contribution to science, you have eliminated all bottleneck from the ram.

[@Outcasstio]

Great video! I've also got some DDR4 tuned (4000MHz with all primary and secondaries as tight as they'll go being stable). Running a 12900k. I must admit I've never gone back and tested the XMP of 3200 CL16 in comparison.

[@gamedaytoday1]

Thanks Sir!

[@SOVERElGN]

Thx for efforts! Very helpful to see how ram speed solely impacts performance within same timings. Would be cool to take a look from opposite perspective. Say, take 4000mhz ram and test performance across different timings to see a difference.

[@Gadoguz001]

Finally, someone who knows how to properly overclock ram! By the way, tCWl can be lower, try 13-14, and tWTRL try 8-10, the rest is fantastic! P.S. This is SAMSUNG B-Die? What is voltage?

[@gamedaytoday1]

Yes Samsung B-die, at 1.5v

[@Gadoguz001]

@@gamedaytoday1 Nice, Excellent result.

[@chikirin9349]

This is one of the cleanest desks/setups I've ever seen holy shit

[@The1Mischief]

So I'm currently on a 5950x (OC from HYDRA, a 3rd party program from 1usmus) with 64gb 3600CL16 XMP (Samsung B-die) and the game installed on an nvme. Overall definitely an improvement from 3.17.4 to 3.18 in terms of stutter and 1% lows, with a little bump on average fps overall. Loading in Orison isn't as janky but there are still a few pop in assets in the distance from the first 30 seconds upon leaving the bed as soon as the game allows you to. I'll test some more and see, cause you got me really curious now

[@gamedaytoday1]

Looking forward to testing it

[@JieLin123]

Thanks for the video, overclock RAM apparently improve a lot. I try to use default XMP(3600) to use memory try it to 4266. Thought I don't record the FPS, it really feel much better . My set is 13400F, RTX3060 12G, XPG D50 3600 DDR4

[@helpimcoping4146]

Thanks for the vid! Though saying the only thing that is unoptimized is your pc is almost laughable, SC is just absolutely unoptimized as expected of an alpha, but still true.

[@gamedaytoday1]

There is room for the Devs to optimize Star Citizen but the reality is even if they manage to optimize it Tuned ram will still improve the performance. Also I would not expect any major improvements from Gen12 or Vulcan because SC is already heavily CPU threaded and Ram intense (due to its scale) which creates a bottle neck when you use slow ram because it cant feed the cores fast enough. See the next video for that concussion, its already live.

[@jesuschrist2284]

No. Sc is pre alpha and clearly unoptimised. Understandably so when they're delaying launch for next gen consoles and its hard to optimise until their specs are nearer being finalised

[@peace_truth1471]

Holy moly, I don't even play this game but I subbed due to how clear you are when explaining this. If you were able to do this analysis on Warzone 2, it would be great. I'll try to tune my memory and see whether or not I'm able to gain a substantial boost :)

[@francsin9477]

me casually watching this buddy's video (great content BTW) and trying to figure out how to optimize my PC, then realizing he has a 4090...... im dead

[@DionWetton123]

Really been enjoying your take on SC optimization, I have recently bought a prebuild and been trying to follow your guides best I can but I have a windows 11 / ddr5 ram, I'm not sure the e cores behave in the same way in windows 11, turning them off actually gives me an FPS decrease! Might be interesting to see your take on this.

[@gamedaytoday1]

Interesting thanks for letting me know! I might need to do a window 11 vs 10 and DDR5 vs DDR4 with e cores on and off might be something to it thanks for sharing

[@demiadeyemi4434]

Wow, the channel I never knew I needed!!! Going to have to reassess the setup of my PC and conduct RAM tuning. Very excited about what’s to come!!! :)

[@celeritas1985]

If you really make a video about Ram and FPS at star Citizen, please also use fast DDR5 RAM 6000MHz+ for a good comparison. You have a 13900K with Z790 and only show DDR4… Difference between DDR4 and DDR5 is most interesting and not only DDR4 speeds

[@gamedaytoday1]

Subscription or send me $350 and I’ll test 7600 MHz DDR5

[@pf100andahalf]

Great video.

[@Deprae_1]

Great video! I would like to ask, what software do you recommend for overclocking ddr4 ram on a ryzen am4 platform - Aorus Master motherboard and Ryzen 5800x CPU. I have 32Gb of GSkill Ram at 3600Mhz xmp. Thank you.

[@gamedaytoday1]

You overclock the ram via the BIOS

[@oOWaschBaerOo]

did your kit have 2 different xmp profiles ? or why is it xmp 3200 and 3600? and how did you do the tuning to get to 4100 ? id like to see a tutorial on how to do it

[@MuseR.]

Make a video on how you tune the ram. For amd cus I got a 5600x3d lol

[@Ge-mu.Reviews]

you having a steady 100 fps me having a unstable 30 - 40 fps average and at lowest fps 3 - 16 i am gonna upgrade ram to a 64 or 32 GB DDR5 or DDR4

[@gamedaytoday1]

You need to give me more information than that what CPU do you have, motherboard, GPU Ram etc, join the game room or take a consult and I’ll help www.game-day.xyz

[@skyracerxp]

I have a 13900 k / 4080 / 32gb ddr4 3600 w/ XMP enabled. I also have the e-cores disabled. I still have alot of stuttering even those my frames with max settings are 80-90's. I'm wonder if pushing the ram to 4100mhz would make a difference??

[@gamedaytoday1]

Should get 25% if tuned correctly

[@skyracerxp]

@@gamedaytoday1 I did the memory OC today. I took my 32gb of ddr4 3600 CL 16 to 4200 CL 18. My CPU speed is boosted to 5.60 GHz as well. Everything runs great w/ no issues and temperature in game for CPU stay between 65-75C / GPU doesn't go above 50C / Memory Temp around 48C. I didn't realize the MSI BIOS made it so easy w/ the "Memory Try It!" over clock option. Honestly not sure how far I can push this ram. I'm comfortable w/ 4200MHz. I reactivated my e-cores since this is no longer a thing. I still get some stuttering w/ all setting maxed, but perhaps 3.18 will be the ticket. I'm running a 1440p monitor. I'm wondering if a 4k monitor would smooth things out a bit more?

[@opreax2145]

Do you think I should upgrade from 3200 to 4000? I got 5800X3D. I dont know how it scales comparing to 13900k.

[@gamedaytoday1]

Here is a video of how the 5800X3D scales with faster RAM. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2jEeaRrobRso68 so you can make an informed decision based on your goals

[@opreax2145]

@@gamedaytoday1 thanks, unfortunately I dont know how far should I go, if 4000 is enough or i should go for 4400 or even 4800.

[@clintgracia3612]

let's try this again at a resolution higher than 1080p

[@gamedaytoday1]

I have a separate video about ram scaling at 1440p and 4K. Did you find it?

[@clintgracia3612]

@@gamedaytoday1 I'll look, might generate more traffic if you add a card or link in the description

[@gamedaytoday1]

@@clintgracia3612 I cover it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4SwqqhqrNqHarMsi=cuJjA7l-mTwB55kf minute 2:37

[@angeloramirez8752]

Is there any way you can optimize my pc ? I have 4090 and Ryzen 7 5800x3D

[@gamedaytoday1]

What memory/Ram do you have?

[@jamesmedema136]

So which ram dye u recommend for 5800x3d

[@lazer_blade9380]

Playing with a 32 go 3200 mhz still good? (I just have no choice because my cpu is a ryzen 7 3700x and my motherboard is a b450 gaming X so the max that I can use is 3200 mhz frequency)

[@gamedaytoday1]

Watch this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIrEdHVuj85srLc it will answer your question

[@lazer_blade9380]

@@gamedaytoday1 as I can see, there are not too much differences between 3200 ram and others

[@gamedaytoday1]

@@lazer_blade9380 40% improvement is not much between 3200mhz and tuned memory? Ok

[@lazer_blade9380]

@@gamedaytoday1 I don't watched all the video yet 😅

[@nathanforrester5140]

on an AMD system, 3600 is optimal because of the infinity fabric. It is not worth pushing the system memory over 3600 for an amd system.

[@gamedaytoday1]

Incorrect I'll show you a video in the future on why that is. stay Subscribed so you don't miss the future analysis

[@leggomypotato1484]

@@gamedaytoday1 Do you have an AMD system to test on?

[@The1Mischief]

I do know AM5 doesn't need specific ram speeds to be optimal. Something about the architecture of the chip iirc

[@nathanforrester5140]

@@The1Mischief I was thinking more of the 5000 CPUs. I am not sure about the 7000 chips.

[@leggomypotato1484]

@@The1Mischief It's well known and researched that you need specific ram speeds for AMD, and for complicated reasons. On many chips, If you use faster than 3600, you will get a ton of latency problems and degraded performance. Very hard to explain in a YT comment, but definitely read up on it. It's very different from Intel.

[@Pabula]

What memory do you recommend that can reach 4300 stable with tight timings?

[@gamedaytoday1]

The requirement is that you need 2 sticks instead of 4, and it need to be B-die. There is some level of silicon lottery that your IMC can achieve 4300 too. The best DDR4 are these, I will try and make a dedicated video about this in the future: amzn.to/3YZzbOj

[@Pabula]

@@gamedaytoday1 Thank you very much for taking the time and replying me, specially for the suggestion of the gskill, ill give a shot.

[@bad_token]

How do you capture results? Eyeball highs and lows?

[@gamedaytoday1]

I use the Software called CapFrameX to capture the results

[@m.m.3753]

Someone please try in Asus Boards thr Feature Performance Bias. IT Changes the Timings in the CPU Cache.

[@PorterB]

So how will mah 4300CL14 G1 do in dis gaem?

[@gamedaytoday1]

Extremely well, it would not surprise me if it got 10% to 20% more performance what CPU and motherboard are you using?

[@PorterB]

@@gamedaytoday1 13600KF, MSI Tomahawk Z790, 3080 ti.

[@gamedaytoday1]

@@PorterB Congrats on getting a golden chip and ram :D are you on overclock . net ?

[@PorterB]

@@gamedaytoday1 Yea the goat pic guy.

[@gamedaytoday1]

@@PorterBAwesome :D I know who you are now