Star Citizen's 2024 New Features Promise & How 4.0 Could Get Close-ish

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@justalex4214
@justalex4214 2 ай бұрын
"I believe it when I can play it" is the best approach one can have with SC. Their intentions, their plan and all their talk about SC's future are completely worthless if they never ever manage to follow up on them. We've been playing the waiting game for over a decade now and the only constant in SC's development is delays. I'd say 4.0 live no sooner than ILW 2025. In fact I could imagine there's a good chance that they're going to release pyro with a loading screen just to have something for ILW if server meshing doesn't pan out. (Remember: icache blew up in their faces too...)
@Solar546
@Solar546 2 ай бұрын
@@justalex4214 totally agree. Real progress is the only thing that matters.
@Skott62
@Skott62 2 ай бұрын
I agree. The I'll believe it when I see it is the best way to view SC. I think they will get there someday but usually its much longer than CR and team say.
@jockcop4205
@jockcop4205 2 ай бұрын
One other thing not on the list is reputation based rewards. Branded Skins, clothing for completing missions and gaining reputation with a company.
@sallwate
@sallwate 2 ай бұрын
I thought it's included in the cargo rework no? Havent played it yet but if that's the case then marketing team at CIG or whoever is responsible for this should be sued. It's not the first time
@jockcop4205
@jockcop4205 2 ай бұрын
@@sallwate Jesus, calm down just abit. Just like the map, they have out in a version of cargo and will add to it as they go.
@Cmdr_V
@Cmdr_V 2 ай бұрын
​@@jockcop4205there's some clothing I earned passed junior rank haven't been able to go play so not sure if there's more
@charliemcawesome5012
@charliemcawesome5012 2 ай бұрын
Yes it’s in. Go click the Rep tab.
@jockcop4205
@jockcop4205 2 ай бұрын
@@charliemcawesome5012 none of the orgs have any of those listed as rewards on their rep levels
@Maddock_
@Maddock_ 2 ай бұрын
To be blunt here, it doesn’t patter if 69% of the mentioned features came to life. Heck I’d say 69 is pretty good! But none of these features matter, period, if they don’t bloody work. Or worse, if they’re designed up the arse.
@kajmak64bit76
@kajmak64bit76 2 ай бұрын
Truth is... we only need ONE singular thing to come which makes everything else work and fits the puzzle set Server meshing... that's the most crucial thing to get working nicely... and with that... everything else works It's like a big machine... the machine can't work if there is no power supply to power it That's what server meshing is to Star Citizen
@Maddock_
@Maddock_ 2 ай бұрын
@@kajmak64bit76 server meshing is not going to magically fix everything. Even desync will depend on how servers are set up and how they hold together. Meshing is an important building block but ultimately it’s just one (TEMPORARY) part of the foundation we’re hoping to finally have at some point. And that’s assuming it works on release... which is almost certainly not going to be the case. We’ll probably need another patch or two after that to reach some form of stability dynamic meshing is going to be where it’s at, but I suspect that’s a whole other can of beans
@kajmak64bit76
@kajmak64bit76 2 ай бұрын
@@Maddock_ server meshing tests given pretty damn optimistic results tho It worked better then expected devs said Dynamic server meshing is cool yes... but static server meshing is still cool since every planet will get it's own server so overall server performance would be much better and AI would function Static server meshing working leads to dynamic server meshing later
@Maddock_
@Maddock_ 2 ай бұрын
@@kajmak64bit76 better hope so. I'll still wait for it to hit the PU before I make myself an opinion, because things usually work differently upon release
@Blight-fp3vt
@Blight-fp3vt 2 ай бұрын
Star Citizen is on target for 2030 release. Get excited!
@SnuffitLabs
@SnuffitLabs 2 ай бұрын
I retire around Jan 2030! I can't wait!
@GamingNostalgiaRemastered
@GamingNostalgiaRemastered 2 ай бұрын
We'll be lucky to get a beta version of Star Citizen by 2040 ... IF CIG doesn't go bankrupt before that.
@kajmak64bit76
@kajmak64bit76 2 ай бұрын
Still gonna be better then Starfield
@Mario-k9b6t
@Mario-k9b6t Ай бұрын
I remember back in 2014 when I saw people say Star Citizen won’t be finished until 2020, and I thought they were being ridiculous. It’s now 2024, and we’re on the brink of a second star system. 2030 is about right!
@GamingNostalgiaRemastered
@GamingNostalgiaRemastered 2 ай бұрын
I don't believe one word Chris Roberts is saying anymore.
@CMDRaudaxius
@CMDRaudaxius 2 ай бұрын
Spoiler alert: No.
@SpaceTomato
@SpaceTomato 2 ай бұрын
This will be the most popular comment.
@maxedout1046
@maxedout1046 2 ай бұрын
@@SpaceTomato And this the most popular response.
@TUROCK320
@TUROCK320 2 ай бұрын
4.n0pe 🎉
@spacebro91
@spacebro91 2 ай бұрын
I instantly belived you. Thank you for saving my time.
@SpaceTomato
@SpaceTomato 2 ай бұрын
@@maxedout1046 The thing is, the video is about more than just the title, which has changed since the comment...so it makes less sense. People should respond more to the video than the title of thumbnail.
@spectr__
@spectr__ 2 ай бұрын
Man, I backed this 12 years ago and people are worried about a new alpha version. I gave up long ago, it's just insanity.
@youtubevanced4900
@youtubevanced4900 2 ай бұрын
I think I backed 10 years ago. The cheapest price to get SQN42. Couldn’t care less about SC. I have zero hope I’ll ever get SQN42. I just feel bad for all the people duped into the ship scam.
@1aatlas
@1aatlas 2 ай бұрын
@@youtubevanced4900 SQ42 is "nearly" done, i reckon a summer 2025 release. Im thinking they may even announce it at citcon in october. i dont think it will be long now... relatively speaking.
@wafflesinsanity
@wafflesinsanity 2 ай бұрын
@@1aatlas I am an optimist when it comes to SC. But we will most certainly get SQ42 no later than Spring of 2026
@deezulboy
@deezulboy 2 ай бұрын
@@1aatlas Unrelated, there is a Nigerian prince I know who has 10 billion dollars he is looking to give away to someone. All he needs is someone to send him $1000 for processing fees. If you're interested just let me know.
@joelmulder
@joelmulder 2 ай бұрын
Genuine question: if you gave up [hope?] long ago, why are you still watching content about SC? Don’t know about you, but I generally don’t watch videos about stuff I don’t care about.
@AlexanderLeister
@AlexanderLeister 2 ай бұрын
The goal: Hype people up, sell more ships, break the promises, rinse and repeat.
@Archmage9885
@Archmage9885 2 ай бұрын
I never understood how people can claim an estimated release date is a "promise". It's an educated guess at best. When creating things you can never know for sure when it'll be ready until it's actually ready, because there can always be unexpected problems.
@Luisasophie163
@Luisasophie163 2 ай бұрын
@@Archmage9885 if the estimate is failing 10 times in a row it is not rly educated but just a way to trick people to buy stuff
@Solar546
@Solar546 2 ай бұрын
@@Archmage9885 The concept of "ready" doesn't mean much anymore. This patch is live, does it look ready to you?
@AlexanderLeister
@AlexanderLeister 2 ай бұрын
@@Archmage9885 The problem is that CIG always moves the goalposts. Even large delays are okay in software development, we are used to it. But Roberts makes promises that they are not able to keep. If something gets delayed for YEARS like Pyro, you are either a liar or just incompetent in your ability to manage.
@Archmage9885
@Archmage9885 2 ай бұрын
@@Solar546 The cargo missions were broken at first, but those are working now. Otherwise everything has been running well in 3.24. Overall it's actually been running better for me than 3.23. So yes, it does look ready.
@Ashmodai
@Ashmodai 2 ай бұрын
Twelve months OR SO. never underestimate the or so.
@SolarWindsRider
@SolarWindsRider 2 ай бұрын
What's most amusing (and confusing actually) is not that CIG promises tons of stuff and doesn't deliver (that's the default state of things for CGI). It's that there are people who ACTUALLY listen to what Chris says and ACTUALLY genuinely believe that this year will be different for CIG. 12 years were not different, but this year will be different for sure.
@bladioYT
@bladioYT 2 ай бұрын
Hopium and Copium are some incredibly powerful drugs
@LucidStrike
@LucidStrike 2 ай бұрын
It WAS pretty different. It's weird to me folks are talking like it's not. 3.24 is pretty damn different from 3.20 or whatever we had last October, and last CitCon featured by far the least spoofing. Maybe you just haven't been around long enough to recognize how different it's been. But then again he literally just covered that in the video you're commenting on...
@ulosen
@ulosen 2 ай бұрын
@@LucidStrike for 100mil a year the progress is pathetic. The code is an unfixable pile of trash.
@user-qj9me9df9l
@user-qj9me9df9l 2 ай бұрын
@@ulosen Woah didn't realize someone with access to the code base is here, please provide more insight into the 'trash' code you're talking about!
@LucidStrike
@LucidStrike 2 ай бұрын
@@ulosen Can you provide even a single example of any dev in going history overcoming these same challenges in that amount of time? I'll wait. 🤷🏿‍♂️
@Zr0din
@Zr0din 2 ай бұрын
I haven't looked at a Star Citizen video in 6 months. I see you are still keeping the faith. So how close are we to seeing this game. Still 2 years? Is the Squadron 42 out yet? Can I use a VR headset like that thing I got from Meta Quest 2?
@Doughny
@Doughny Ай бұрын
Anyone who believes star star citizen will be feature complete in 2 years is delusional. Hopefully Squadron 42 will be out in 2 years.
@2298766
@2298766 2 ай бұрын
Next year at this time we will ask ourselfs:" will pyro come Q1 2026?"
@Solar546
@Solar546 2 ай бұрын
I think we'll be wondering why the servers haven't improved even now that we have Pyro.
@2298766
@2298766 2 ай бұрын
@@Solar546 or that kinda thing xD
@snowie1
@snowie1 2 ай бұрын
2026? Thats really optimistic!
@MrAbram94
@MrAbram94 Ай бұрын
Also we will ask if Server Meshing will finally give us stable servers and responsive AI
@lestrike2707
@lestrike2707 2 ай бұрын
The moment we get meaningful content (actually something interesting to do that's not repetitive as hell I'll be excited.
@c-shepard
@c-shepard Ай бұрын
Hygiene was discussed years ago before you started covering the game. It's a reputation based mechanic on maintaining literal hygiene in the game. Showering and looking presentable in game. I believe it will tie in with appropriate clothing and attire for mission giving down the road.
@Nosdeblack
@Nosdeblack 2 ай бұрын
Your content is externally necessary for the community and for the project, cuz I believe everybody wishes this quality of information coming from there. I hope you can inspire them someday.
@Reds_Resort
@Reds_Resort 2 ай бұрын
100% dude. I don't know how he does it but man the way he collates and presents info is just top tier.
@jakejewkes6688
@jakejewkes6688 2 ай бұрын
Maybe just maybe we stopped shilling so much for a company that has let us down more than the US government in a 12 year period and maybe start to make them hold themselves accountable for once we could see a legit shift in producing something “on time” or past a tier 0 status
@bhz8499
@bhz8499 2 ай бұрын
Lmfao this screams directed damage control from CIG 😂😂😂😂😂
@macgreystone3397
@macgreystone3397 2 ай бұрын
Great content, thanks. I got involved in SC 7 years ago because I wanted to be an explorer. I'm not sure why no one talks of this profession, as it was promised so long ago, I doubt I'm alone in this disappointment. I'm 74 now and wonder if I'll be alive when they finally get to it LOL.
@HarenunHoppus
@HarenunHoppus 2 ай бұрын
Elite Dangerous and no mans sky has exploration. Try that instead
@Bleiser3
@Bleiser3 2 ай бұрын
Exploration as in the sense of truly exploring unknown will never be in SC. All new content will be found and that's it. I mean that theres not much to explore when they add a system or two at once. It's a video game and all in it has to be created by someone or generated. Generated content is also not fun in general after seeing its foundation. It just becomes a few variations of itself. So nah, exploration like europeans exploring americas, is not ever gonna happen.
@macgreystone3397
@macgreystone3397 2 ай бұрын
@@Bleiser3 Okay, perhaps I should have been more clear in my post. Exploration in the sense that I scan for resources in some remote location and discover something useful for a miner or salvager (or ...). Then I drop a marker on it and post that location to the Org for someone else to exploit. At one point they mentioned launching probes for this type of discovery. Even offered extended scanning capability promises for exploration ships like the 315 and others and specifically sold exploration ships since conception.
@Yeet42069
@Yeet42069 2 ай бұрын
Wtf are you going to explore when they are this damn slow with releasing anything? By the time you can actually explore content in this game you would have died 3 times over.
@Solar546
@Solar546 2 ай бұрын
True, cig never talks about exploration gameplay. Yet it should be one of the main things. In my opinion, they don't even understand how to handle this gameplay.I also approached the project for the same reason. I joined the project in 2017 and if I had known that I would end up waiting all this time I would have spent a lot less.
@valorunkommon799
@valorunkommon799 Ай бұрын
Everyone should know by now that Chris is notorious for overpromising features. All of his public appearances should have a huge red disclaimer on them
@lordofthecritics
@lordofthecritics 2 ай бұрын
2024 Goal? Another New Yacht
@pedrojose4250
@pedrojose4250 2 ай бұрын
I love your vids...but counting stuff in that is not in yet makes no sense....and assuming stuff to 4.0 when we do not even knwo about 4.0 is a bit weird...
@malismo
@malismo 2 ай бұрын
4.0 will take at least until CitizenCon next year is my guess, just look at how long they took getting the actual SC specific 3.23 features in like cargo/ship elevators and physicalized cargo. Server Meshing is even further up there in complexity and impact.
@Greeniecake
@Greeniecake 2 ай бұрын
I think maybe we will get 4.0 end of August beginning of September 2025
@starkingx
@starkingx 2 ай бұрын
People need to stop buying ships until we see some actual results. That will light a fire under their ass. I've stopped since 2015. And I'm not planning on buying anything new from them anytime soon.
@marcuswynn89
@marcuswynn89 2 ай бұрын
I think we have to consider are the items in a playable or acceptable state
@pawe6199
@pawe6199 2 ай бұрын
What if we put aside all the fluff, graphical and aesthetic additions and count only things that are truly adding and enriching our gameplay. How many of those made it into the PU out of all promised? Almost nothing of true substance that would make the experience less boring.
@rp2974
@rp2974 2 ай бұрын
They just added a glorified tractor beam people are creaming their pants over
@GeneraIKurt
@GeneraIKurt 2 ай бұрын
Anytime I see a video from CIG-Marketing I feel like they`re listing off things that just flew into their mind what they liked to have and not something that was discussed in a meeting with the devs. I don`t care whats coming in, as long as its not pushed out for the sake of it being out and EVERYTHING is communicated properly, the successes and the reason for delays. Because thats what gives the bad image, the disappointment and the idea that its all going to hell.
@finnlass2565
@finnlass2565 2 ай бұрын
He’s legitimately ratio’ing CiG.
@KellyMcc-om8sr
@KellyMcc-om8sr Ай бұрын
I still think this has potential to be awesome. Ive always liked the look and feel of the ship combat. Ive read some things about their updating the control systems, etc. and ive always wished there was more out of the box functionality and kind of wonder where theor overall direction in terms of gameplay. Ive been iffy about the planets, but the space stuff has usually been pretty attractive. Backed about…probably 12 years ago and check it iut from time to time. I liked his old games a lot and think its just a really big expansion on that universe. So…i hope they do some really good stuff
@ro-mon_gerrs_u-tube1944
@ro-mon_gerrs_u-tube1944 2 ай бұрын
Four point Oh No! At best an Evo drop with a LONG very long test phase to Q4 of 2025 would be my best guess! AKA 3.18 nightmares!
@itsdibbles
@itsdibbles 2 ай бұрын
I'm hopeful that we get 4.0 by the end of the year. At least as an open ptu.
@43zq8sonoma
@43zq8sonoma 2 ай бұрын
Backers need to stop backing until CIG starts delivering. Each shiny new promise is rewarded with money based on the fear of missing out and CIG isn't ever held to keep a promise. They need to have a year where a wake up call happens and they are forced to trim the fat and focus on creating an actual functioning patch with long standing issues resolved. Until they can prove that they can succeed on smaller issues why trust that they can complete anything related to the grand plan.
@wdipuccio
@wdipuccio Ай бұрын
I’m gonna say it. I like master modes. It’s the only time I’ve ever engaged in ship combat that didn’t devolve into jousting at insane speeds
@Rob.Flynn81
@Rob.Flynn81 2 ай бұрын
You and I actually exchanged words about this. You were completely hyping up Star Citizen again and I attempted to curb your expectations but you were drunk on the SC Cool-Aid. You have to be more honest about your speculations and tone down the hype nowadays with SC. They just aren't delivering at this point and its obvious. That's all I'm asking. Be more realistic on your approach to the hype, like this video. The end of the year is approaching and SC will be hyping unrealistic goals. It's time you use your online presence to call the SC team out.
@Sparky_007
@Sparky_007 2 ай бұрын
And what about the removal or broken pre-existing content, like: Orison Platform Missions, Service Beacon Missions etc.
@dunk668
@dunk668 2 ай бұрын
Personally, I think we may get 4.0 in evo for the end of the year. With the zeus and other ships being moved from 4.0 to 3.24.x indicates that they are for citizencon release and we aren’t getting 4.0 for then
@texnorthman
@texnorthman 2 ай бұрын
Not sure you've cought it - but I reeeeeeeeeaally don't like Master Modes ;) I really really hope CIG come out soon and say something about where they are planning to take the flight model. Nothing else really matters for those of us that don't like MM.
@MareLooke
@MareLooke 2 ай бұрын
I was excited for this year, until I experienced MM. Now I'm just waiting on the sidelines for some actual plan to make flying enjoyable again.
@texnorthman
@texnorthman 2 ай бұрын
@@MareLooke I was super hyped after CitCon. They were talking about flight simulation, stall speeds, control surfaces, all sorts of geeky sim stuff that even if they didn't go full flight-sim level of detail on signified an intent to make the flight model believable and meaningful. Instead one of the devs played Starfield, enjoyed zooming around with boost and watching pretty explosions and thought "this will do". Such a shame.
@emperorurbi
@emperorurbi 2 ай бұрын
I'dd rather play 3.22 than 4.0 if they don't fix the broken flight model.
@NOMADogg
@NOMADogg 2 ай бұрын
0:36 - he says "it's our intention" but body language does not 1:02 - he says "hopefully" but body language does not -- but the believers ask, what to believe or hopium kicks in
@sketto1283
@sketto1283 2 ай бұрын
CR has a lot to make clear before the end of 2024. I'm still patiently waiting, just playing less. However the delays are starting to REALLY wear on a lot of backers.
@Solar546
@Solar546 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's ready when it's ready. But when it's ready it's game breaking bugged.
@unclecalifornia2576
@unclecalifornia2576 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Exambient
@Exambient 2 ай бұрын
This is why I am subbed to you. Transparent, holds accountability, and tells it how it really is. Thanks for being real with us, @Space Tomato o7
@TheGreatBizarro
@TheGreatBizarro 2 ай бұрын
If 4.0 comes out this year it will be the middle of 25 before it becomes fairly usable from the problem of new bugs introduced with it would be my guess.
@TheInsaneupsdriver
@TheInsaneupsdriver 2 ай бұрын
the hygiene thing is if you don't shower, some places will refuse entry to their establishments, Bar's, Restaurants....
@frankjaeger3799
@frankjaeger3799 2 ай бұрын
Well he did say "maybe" most of the things shown will make it 2024
@Crushnaut
@Crushnaut 2 ай бұрын
I pop my head in for Star Citizen every now and then. Did Sean Tracey's new game mode ever get added? The thing with orbit combat that transitions to surface and fps.
@Crushnaut
@Crushnaut 2 ай бұрын
And the reason I don't engage much with SC content anymore is because of how toxic the community has become. Every single thread or video is just full of people with zero intention of playing the game just shit talking it and fans of the game. Comments section here re-uped that for me.
@avon_c6199
@avon_c6199 2 ай бұрын
Nope, "Theaters Of When" hasn't been released yet...and as it has become a meme by now, the general consensus among backers seems to be that it never will. Remember when SeanTracy told us at CitizenCon 2019 that "there would be no reason to hold this back" and "I want to get you guys into it early next year"...and then early in 2020 we were told, again, that "we are very much on track for this" and "we are not behind at all"?! "Theaters Of When" is still MIA in 2024. Someone look at this and tell me with a straight face that either, SeanTracy wasn't lying to us in that last instance and they didn't already know at that point that we wouldn't get it, or he was seriously still confident and then shortly after "whoops who could've known" they indefinitely delayed it till this day. Both possibilities look like various levels of "incompetence" to me.
@Crushnaut
@Crushnaut 2 ай бұрын
@@avon_c6199 does Sean still work for them?
@avon_c6199
@avon_c6199 2 ай бұрын
@@Crushnaut Not too long ago, as in sometime this year, I think to have seen his face on one of the ISC episodes, so he's definitely still working for CIG. We'll know for sure, probably, at this coming CitizenCon.
@psix130
@psix130 2 ай бұрын
No sugar coating it by now most things should be able to implement content in game
@UAF_ViVi
@UAF_ViVi 2 ай бұрын
We're all dreaming if we think 4.0 will make it this year (again).
@briananderson4032
@briananderson4032 2 ай бұрын
It is a shame when you get into the real game and you expected the game to look like these trailers.
@Anarchybambi
@Anarchybambi Ай бұрын
dont get the pessimism. Looked like a great year for me and the current trend is that things just get better. Backing this game since 2018 and no regrets since then.
@Rikalonius
@Rikalonius 2 ай бұрын
Will they get 4.0 out by the end of the year. I say they will, but that's not the biggest question. The bigger question is, how playable will 4.0 be? 3.24, while representing a huge shift in the behind the scenes code, took months and I would argue, as I did in testing chat, that it shouldn't have gone live. I think it went live so that they could start pushing for 4.0. Now I don't even care at this point if it is unplayable so long as progress, actual, real progress; not the kind of 'baby steps' that is constantly defended by players. I will give CIG credit where it is due. They have been working on hotfixing and patching the live build since it dropped on Friday. That's commendable. I think they are going to push hard to have 4.0 drop by Dec 20th, come hail or high water. I just worry that we go into Christmas vacay with a barely playable game.
@bjordan429
@bjordan429 Ай бұрын
1:46 - Link please. How many 'G's in grag? 6:50 - I think somewhere, they considered the Personal Hangars, furniture and decoration as Base Building V0. Not happy about it, but I think thats what they meant. Mainly because they didnt even show a functioning method of building ANY structure.
@Tentacl
@Tentacl 2 ай бұрын
Peter Molyneux, I mean, Chris Roberts is for SURE telling the truth this time...
@gargenall8161
@gargenall8161 2 ай бұрын
All things considered, this has been a fantastic year as far as meeting promises go. For any other game company id be pissed but this is star citizen, and 69% of things in 75% through the year is definitely a MAJOR improvement. Although I've got to say I don't know why they even said that basebuilding had a possibility of making it in this year. If you believe that, that's on you.
@beatthebest6812
@beatthebest6812 2 ай бұрын
They never said Basebuilding would make it this year. They stated that basebuilding would get work started this year, specificly start of this year. They never mentioned it would be done in 2024. i have had this discussion about 600 times, and have rewatched and checked wording used. Its not comming in 2024. they never said. Most of the things we have shown will make it in 2024. And for basebuilding specificly they started with, we are planning to start work on basebuilding in 2024.
@Liefx
@Liefx 2 ай бұрын
Awesome vid!
@rixxy9204
@rixxy9204 2 ай бұрын
No chance. They didn't deliver 3.24 either, so don't expect 4.0 anytime soon. "I can deliver on time, it just won't actually work" I'd like to do that in my class "I'll give my book report tomorrow, but it won't make any sense"
@j.d.4697
@j.d.4697 2 ай бұрын
What do you mean you don't know what player hygiene is? They talked about it, you need to keep a hygiene meter high enough for interactions and reputation.
@OrbZero
@OrbZero 2 ай бұрын
Would be nice to share that website with the list.
@lovlinator
@lovlinator 2 ай бұрын
4.0 before New Year's Eve? Maybe! On New Year's Eve? That would be great, good reason to stay home and do something different 😛 I'm getting into the new "ordeal" that is loot running. I need a crew.
@kazzix83
@kazzix83 2 ай бұрын
Is medical missions gonna be the last thing implemented before they push the game out 100% complete?
@doubledigital_
@doubledigital_ 2 ай бұрын
to be fair we do have a massive chunk of it.. and its CIG we are talking about sooo pinch of salt is always handy... im enjoying the new stuff ( when it works ) hehe .. and hopefully they can feed us more content when its ready now the evil cargo patch is kinda out the way. roll on 4.0 o7
@elementsk8r1717
@elementsk8r1717 2 ай бұрын
They talked about the raids in one of the inside Star citizen recently. I don’t remember the details but it must’ve been a week or 2 ago
@DustinHarms
@DustinHarms 2 ай бұрын
SC, in the many years I've followed, is the best example of lowering expectations every year, just to find that they're still too high. Between 2020-2023 I was feeling more and more salty, as things that I had been shown the year I pledged (2016) still hadn't made it into the game (Many of which still haven't, btw). Then, in 2023, something felt different, and my stupid ass reluctantly gave them the benefit of the doubt. Not "trusting" them, but I let myself be more excited and hopeful than the previous few years. And once again, delays and excuses. It seems even more likely now that 4.0 will not be live this year, which gives us "two" major patches this year - I add quotations because 3.24 was initially supposed to be part of 3.23 - and now we're about a month and a half away from CitizenCon. How am I supposed to be excited? How am I supposed to keep watching their content, hearing their words, and somehow believe anything they say? 4.0 isn't going to solve all our problems, either. It's the start of a whole new sleugh of them. And it's still the same company that thinks finding an item in game that allows you to BUY a ship with real money but not in-game is a fun event. Same company that made excuses for almost a decade about "Well we had to start a whole new studio..." and, "No-one else is doing what we're doing!" Oh, and, "But we have to develop while the game is live!" All to justify the abysmal decisions and progress of this project. My confidence that this project will see 1.0 is not zero, but my confidence that it will be anything other than a rich space dad screenshot demo is getting near zero. I just feel bad for the folks I brought into this project with me back when I was more confident. Many folks that pledged and still haven't played because it's still so far from a real game. Can't wait for 2025 where surely things will finally change!
@ablazedguy
@ablazedguy 2 ай бұрын
I came down here to say that MM sucks. Thanks for your attention.
@positronikiss
@positronikiss 2 ай бұрын
I concur hun bun.
@solothkaroftrinsic3852
@solothkaroftrinsic3852 Ай бұрын
@@positronikiss @ablazedbuy If it would at least suck it would have something positive but actually MM are utter and complete, useless garbage.
@oggystew
@oggystew 2 ай бұрын
Nice.
@schtoobs
@schtoobs 2 ай бұрын
Ok and what percentage of that doesn't work very well and/or isn't fun to use?
@StrikerWolf91
@StrikerWolf91 2 ай бұрын
3.24 is a mess and CIG needs to focus on fixing that rather than moving forward...
@LifeFlight22
@LifeFlight22 2 ай бұрын
My whole org pretty much quit this year when they killed medical gameplay and broken promises on medical ships once again. Everybody can just respawn in a rover now. 😅
@Belvayne
@Belvayne 2 ай бұрын
I'm expecting early 2025 purely because the progress tracker shows items crucial for Pyro to bleed into January
@Star-bp5jj
@Star-bp5jj 2 ай бұрын
@@Belvayne progress tracker ahahhahahahah
@SvalbardSleeperDistrict
@SvalbardSleeperDistrict 2 ай бұрын
Intermittent Work Pattern Tracker*
@heru_ur6017
@heru_ur6017 2 ай бұрын
No earlier than end 2025, early - mid 2026 more likely.
@Yeet42069
@Yeet42069 2 ай бұрын
You are funny bro
@Vincent_Morrow
@Vincent_Morrow Ай бұрын
This must have been uploaded to patreon a long time ago. Many of these things are in the game and 4.0 is months away.
@Spike.SpiegeI
@Spike.SpiegeI 2 ай бұрын
Agree that they've done better this year delivering things than in years past but they still over-promise and under-deliver.
@Yeet42069
@Yeet42069 2 ай бұрын
8:45 keep hoping bro, your hopium will surely help them be less incompetent. Oh and also your money, please buy a few more 24k supporter packs thank you.
@ESC_907
@ESC_907 2 ай бұрын
HE’S GONNA FIX MY HANGAR?! No? Guess not…
@florianc7936
@florianc7936 2 ай бұрын
4.0 it's coming by the end of the year
@WayFastWhitey02
@WayFastWhitey02 2 ай бұрын
Imagine the game we'd have if SQ 42 wasn't a thing......
@vm2482
@vm2482 2 ай бұрын
If only GTA 6 had space ships. When ever GTA comes out it's going to be playable.
@KombatKrab
@KombatKrab 2 ай бұрын
You could say the development of GTA 6 started back in gta 3...
@vm2482
@vm2482 2 ай бұрын
@@KombatKrab Very true. And they never let us play the builds inbetween.
@KombatKrab
@KombatKrab 2 ай бұрын
@@vm2482 short answer is... Trust the process.
@shh532
@shh532 2 ай бұрын
They genuinely could whip around real fast and push 4.0 onto Evo before or around citcon - like we still have the full quarter to go. But I feel at this point as far as LIVE goes, IAE is going to be a 3.24.2 at best.
@justalex4214
@justalex4214 2 ай бұрын
They could if they didn't have to spend a lot of their dev time to make citcon presentations and "vertical slices". With SC being optimistic or hopeful will always lead to disappointment.
@nosir5596
@nosir5596 2 ай бұрын
After 5 weeks of "early next week" for 3.24 starting evo I'm not real optimistic about them getting 4.0 into testing 'real fast.'
@SvalbardSleeperDistrict
@SvalbardSleeperDistrict 2 ай бұрын
Before or around CitizenCon is two months before the end of the year, not a "full quarter".
@MontySaurusRex_
@MontySaurusRex_ 2 ай бұрын
They basically confirmed IAE is 3.24.x patch when they put the Zeus onto the 3.24 release view.
@nosir5596
@nosir5596 2 ай бұрын
@@MontySaurusRex_ Nicou already said on spectrum there will be multiple 3.24.x patches which also pretty heavily implies as much; not really room for multiples before IAE lol.
@unsoundVed
@unsoundVed 2 ай бұрын
There's too much features in 4.0 for me to believe all of it coming in one go... I still think CIG might drop 4.0 before end of the year but not soooo many features... I feel they should focus on stabilizing server meshing issues before adding additional features
@paulferry7791
@paulferry7791 2 ай бұрын
Why haven't they just renamed it Star Citizen Forever, an homage to Duke Nukem Forever that also took forever to come out.
@NarattoRadians
@NarattoRadians 2 ай бұрын
People need to chill out. Stuff happens, and no one can see the future. He's giving us projected timelines. Some stuff is easy to figure out, other stuff isn't. Either way they're making progress so lets be happy this game is getting made.
@TUROCK320
@TUROCK320 2 ай бұрын
You bought your starter pack one week ago ? Or pledge 150 000 $ ? 🤔🤔
@TUROCK320
@TUROCK320 2 ай бұрын
Thé optimistic Guy 😂
@TalosEscanor
@TalosEscanor 2 ай бұрын
s42 is "feature complete". A lot of dev are free for SC now.... but It's still the same slow paste this year....why ?
@justalex4214
@justalex4214 2 ай бұрын
Because the features that delayed everything this year (instanced hangars, server meshing) aren't done by the devs that worked on the single player game. They don't have the expertise to do that. What we just experienced was the SC skeleton crew (mostly network engineering I'd guess) working in their usual slow pace we've been used to for the past 5 or so years.
@AnymMusic
@AnymMusic 2 ай бұрын
arguably somehow even slower
@TheJZP
@TheJZP 2 ай бұрын
Because of the groundbreaking spaghetti code
@RN1441
@RN1441 2 ай бұрын
Look at their May SQ42 letter and you'll notice that they implemented new AI features that month. It turned out as usual Chris couldn't help himself and decided to add more features, so even if it was feature complete last Citizencon that changed this year back to 'not feature complete'.
@Gaza8143
@Gaza8143 2 ай бұрын
It feels slower. Here we are in September with only one patch in and that patch is a train wreck.
@Tyoz666
@Tyoz666 2 ай бұрын
Backing Star Citizen feels like investing in crypto project with really good shill, so you don't even know when to give up
@fmartingorb
@fmartingorb 2 ай бұрын
A lot of, most of, intention... is not equal to big promise. That is you who put that in the thumbnail.
@Pompelipom33
@Pompelipom33 2 ай бұрын
Imo 69% of the features, is actually pretty good.
@skoomd4447
@skoomd4447 2 ай бұрын
The real question is do people want to hear the truth? Its not easy to go on stage when people spend time and money to be there just to tell those people its not going to plan. I would honestly prefer chris being honest than optimistic and the root of all the over estimations is citizen con. Who in there right mind would hold a massive event just to say they are behind schedule. Chris better figure shit out soon and if squadron isnt a hit i think the whole project may go under if the next couple years continue to be a dissapointment
@toecutter9372
@toecutter9372 2 ай бұрын
Player hygiene has something to do with radiation? I’m thinking like being dirty/clean and the need to wash/shower.
@ryanmitchell4044
@ryanmitchell4044 2 ай бұрын
That doesn’t sound correct.
@AlphaCocoAudio
@AlphaCocoAudio 2 ай бұрын
We won't see 4.0 till mid 2025 at the earliest and that's with a medium amount of copium
@SpaceTomato
@SpaceTomato 2 ай бұрын
Live or PTU?
@StrikerWolf91
@StrikerWolf91 2 ай бұрын
Or we will see it when planned, but it will be broken as all heck and basically unplayable.
@quadrantalerror1121
@quadrantalerror1121 2 ай бұрын
@@SpaceTomatoI think PTU, it could release around November 2025 but I’m expecting around 2026 potentially
@vadst9535
@vadst9535 2 ай бұрын
@@SpaceTomato How much do they pay you? )))
@StrikerWolf91
@StrikerWolf91 2 ай бұрын
@@SpaceTomato Not sure, but lately CIG has been using LIVE as an extended PTU. Look at what happened to 3.23 and what is happening right now with 3.24. I still have some hope for the overall project, but it is starting to drain slowly.
@NEIHERUniversStarCitizen
@NEIHERUniversStarCitizen 2 ай бұрын
The spromesses engage only those who believe in it. Yet I am very positive because the development of the game is accelerating and this is an encouraging aspect. Let’s see the glass fill slowly, half full, rather than empty.
@fyrestorme
@fyrestorme 2 ай бұрын
0:38 the crowd (externally): "hahahahahahaha" the crowd (internally): "wtf ? asshole. figures... ooook, 'rob'-bert"
@vellocx
@vellocx 2 ай бұрын
I like Mastermodes
@Eric-un2oq
@Eric-un2oq 2 ай бұрын
He didnt break any promises. Anyone who says he broke a promise is lying. Goals and intentions were clearly stated. Goals not met, i'm ok with that. Also i dont want a quantum rework. Quantum travel is fine. If it aint broke dont fix it. Fix broken stuff though
@good_speed_0h
@good_speed_0h 2 ай бұрын
Great Video! Damn this video kinda made me sad 😢 after getting a reminder of what they've shown & promised for this & we dont have the full package yet, i cannot wait for Citizen Con next month for a major explanation from Chris Roberts himself‼️
@wildphilpresents
@wildphilpresents 2 ай бұрын
What about the new investigation missions shown 2-3 years ago? lol
@Nakedninjadan
@Nakedninjadan 2 ай бұрын
You know back in 2012 I was so excited to play this game and i bought a ship was just started waiting I was like what 24, I thought i would be playing this in a few years from then you know around 30 well now I'm almost 40 and this game still isn't even close to being ready. There is literally a entire new generation of gamers who weren't even alive when this game was announced... Like enough is enough put your details in after you have a working game. You gonna delay the game every year cause oh I want you to be able to wipe the rain off your visor.... You know stupid things like that. Anyways I hope it comes out but if it doesn't i only wasted 25 bucks 11 years ago
@Pharesm
@Pharesm 2 ай бұрын
What, we already everything and more in 2015 !
@etogreen
@etogreen Ай бұрын
I like master modes.
@XeroJin84
@XeroJin84 2 ай бұрын
10 years of constant bullshit from CitizenCon. I admit, not all bullshit, but they won’t change how they hype up something only to be let down.
@Jezato
@Jezato 2 ай бұрын
We just have to let them cook, plenty of other games to play in the mean time.
@Norman_Peterson
@Norman_Peterson 2 ай бұрын
Dude, we are talking about marketing. Games TODAY ARE SOLD USING HYPE. If they hadn't shot all that stuff they wouldn't have sold like they did today. Today words come first and only then, perhaps, facts.😉😉
@A_Trall
@A_Trall 2 ай бұрын
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